MAGIC! - 05
The following was compiled from the magician's message section of
MAGIC!(sm). MAGIC! was an electronic communications system for
magicians. Access was free, except for normal telephone company
charges. New registrants were required to leave a comment with
their name, address, phone number and a brief resume of their magic
background to be considered for membership. The material herein
should be treated as confidentially as other magic information.
Copyright 1990, 1991 by MAGIC!, All rights reserved.
Msg #2001 Dated 19:56:41 10-27-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FLYERS
This is my 193rd time to sign on myself. I don't mind. Everything costs
even if its in time or other intangibles. Thanks for sending the flyers
out. i dropped one by Howard Schwarzmans house the other day. He does
have a good collection of books such as Harbin, Albo, etc, etc. An
interesting study. I had hoped he would of signed on by now. Thanx for
putting me onto Byron Walker. A letter was waiting here for me when I
got home with some of the information I was looking for. I'd still like
to know (he wasn't sure) how many copies of the first edition of
QUALITY MAGIC by Okito were printed. He's got one of your lecture notes
for sale in his used and rare lists also.
Msg #2006 Dated 21:14:40 10-27-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NY
Great to have you back, Tabman! We're going to have to get you to join
the "MAGIC! Elite" who travel with laptops and ingenious connectors
that allow them to tap into the hotel phone lines.
Msg #2010 Dated 23:26:00 10-27-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC-03
The third set of MAGIC! messages - #1000 (Aug. 21, 1990) to #1498
(Sept. 21, 1990) have been transfered to a downloadable file -
MAGIC-03.TXT. This means that you can now go to the file area,
download that file, and read the third volume of messages off-line.
For those who know how to use the PKUNZIP system for uncompressing
files, there is a compressed version of this same file. It is
called MAGIC-03.ZIP and is about 1/2 the size of the full-text
version.
Not only will transfering these messages to a file make it easier
for you to obtain a complete set of them, but it will make the
search for new messages easier and faster.
Msg #2013 Dated 12:34:20 10-28-90 -> 2014
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: ALL
Re: LATEST NEWS FROM HOLLAND.
-Latest news from Holland!!
.
Being far away from you all, I feel the obligation to keep you
up-to-date about the latest news from the dutch front..
Well this week was an exiting week for the dutch magic world.
.
There was a press announcement of a newly formed magicians union,
called 'Selected Magicians'. They present themself as the creme-de-
la-creme of the dutch magicians, and try to offer the innocent
party organisator with the possibility to hire the best in magic
in Holland.
.
Though it is rather new, it is also unknown, and that is always very
beneficial for the rumours. What I heard sof -ar:
- To become a member you have to pay $500 contribution per year.
- You have to be a full time magician
- You should have proven to stand for quality in magic.
.
Since they had quite some press coverage, a lot of (negative) reac-
tions are heard in the dutch magi -c society. Mainly from part time
magicians being afraid to lose work.
.
Question of course is what is the idea behind it:
- Self protection???
- Keep professional magic in Holland on a high level??
-.
Names I heard to be connected with the group are: Tonny van Dommelen,
Tommy Wonder (secretary), Dick Koornwinder, Richard Ross, Harry
Thiery (Di Sato). You - see, no small names.
.
As I told you it is all quite new. Maybe an intersting item to
discuss about here in Magic!.
Do you have something similar in the US??
What do you think about it?
.
Will keep you informed.
.
Thank you very dutch for your attention,
.
Arnaud.
.
P.S.
Am not able to login till next saturday. See you!
Sorry for strange characters, had a bad line while uploading...
Msg #2014 Dated 13:31:35 10-28-90 2013 <--> 2015
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: LATEST NEWS FROM HOLLAND.
Arnaud - Thanks for your news from Holland. I'm sure that our members
will be interested in commenting on it.
Msg #2015 Dated 15:00:10 10-28-90 2013 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: LATEST NEWS FROM HOLLAND.
Sounds like a select group. I would be interested to see what kind of
things they are able to do to farther business. Thanks for the message.
Msg #2017 Dated 15:01:30 10-28-90 -> 2047
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: AWARDS TV SHOW
Just lucked out and saw aabout 80% of the Blackstone Int'l Awards tv
spcl. Was a fluke as I was zipping the Satellite dish around trying to
find the Raider Football game. (Have not found, maybe not playing
today?) Anyway saw most of the show. Pendragon's new illusion great.
NOBODY DOES TH SUB TRUNK FASTER. However I did like Greg Wilson
versjion with glass box and swords. And his Dad in the box was a good
surprise. I got the show from the Hobson bit (great) and like the other
funny guys very much. Show had High Class look. Hope the ratings are
good. Need more stuff like this on TV. Kudos to all.
Msg #2020 Dated 18:43:18 10-28-90 -> 2028
From: NARAYANAN VIJAYKUMAR
To: ALL
Re: INTL. MAGIC AWARDS
I was just going through the T.V. listings for this week and find no
mention of the Intl. Magic Awards in the L.A. area? Wasn't this
supposed to be on Channel 11 on Oct. 31 ? -Vijay.
Msg #2021 Dated 18:46:40 10-28-90 -> 2052
From: NARAYANAN VIJAYKUMAR
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC IN THE BAY AREA
I will be moving near Santa Cruz from L.A. This is about 25 miles from
San Jose. Anyone know of magic stores, teachers etc. in that area? Any
news is welcome?
- Vijay.
Msg #2022 Dated 18:48:54 10-28-90 -> 2025
From: NARAYANAN VIJAYKUMAR
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: THANKS
Thanks for telling me about Jim Kahlert and his magic lessons. I am
going to Magic-I and it is great! Unfortunately I will be moving and
will miss talking his subsequent courses.
Also can you tell me exactly how to upload an ascii file as a message?
- Vijay.
Msg #2025 Dated 23:03:27 10-28-90 2022 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: NARAYANAN VIJAYKUMAR (X)
Re: THANKS
Sorry to hear that you will be moving. Hope you will keep in touch
with MAGIC! I'm hoping to have a report on "low cost ways to call" up
soon, I'm waiting for some opinions from users of some services.
Glad to hear that you enjoyed Kahlert. He does a good job. I finished
Magic 4 with him, but couldn't go on to Magic 5 this year, will hope to
do so next year.
Uploading an ASCII file depends on the type of computer you have and
the type of software you are using. If you can tell me those things,
I may be able to help. Also, others on here have done it with
different computers and software and they may be able to help you too.
In general, you tell MAGIC! that you want to enter a message (from the
Main Menu you would type E and press the ENTER key; to reply to
a message you would just type R and press the ENTER key). Then
you complete any necessary information such as name, subject, yes or no
for private, etc. Eventually you will see a dashed line under which
will be 1: . You then instruct your computer/software to "Upload"
and select ASCII. Your program may ask if it should look for a
"Prompt." If it does, tell it yes and tell it that the prompt is a
colon [:]. Your message should then upload (on some software you will
see it happening, on others you won't). At the end there should be a
pause and you should see another line number (say 16:). Press the
ENTER key one time and the message menu should appear. You can then
list your message to make sure it was received correctly, and,
eventually, you must type S for Save and press the ENTER key.
It is easier to do than to explain!
Msg #2028 Dated 0:08:42 10-29-90 2020 <-
From: MAX MAVEN
To: NARAYANAN VIJAYKUMAR (X)
Re: INTL. MAGIC AWARDS
Airdate has been shifted to November 4; same channel.
Msg #2029 Dated 9:08:28 10-29-90 -> 2031
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: GOSH
I wanted to thank you for taking the bull by the horns on our letters
to Al Goshman. I know he will appreciate being to read and reread
everyones comments. I'd also like to thank everyone who participated in
this worthwhile event. Thanks.---Tabman----
Msg #2030 Dated 9:10:13 10-29-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: HOWARD SCHWARZMAN (X)
Re: WELCOME
Hi Howard,
I want to be among the first to welcome you to MAGIC!. I enjoyed
visiting with you in Baltimore the other day.---Tabman---
Msg #2031 Dated 10:27:25 10-29-90 2029 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: GOSH
Thanks for suggesting the project, Tabman. The next message has a copy
of the cover letter.
Msg #2032 Dated 10:28:13 10-29-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: GOSH
Thank you to those who participated in our "electronic greeting
card" project for Al Goshman. Here is the letter that went along
with the greetings that you sent:
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
: :
: Dear Mr. Goshman, :
: :
: I believe that Tabby Crabb recently sent you some informa- :
: tion regarding MAGIC!(tm), the electronic communications :
: system for magicians. Tabby also suggested that we set up a :
: file of "electronic greeting cards" on the system so that :
: MAGIC! members could send you messages. We did, and here :
: are some electronic communications from a few of your :
: friends and fans. :
: :
: If you feel up to it, the MAGIC! members would certainly :
: enjoy hearing from you. You can either send me a note and I :
: will post it, or you can call me at 818-899-8812. Or, of :
: course, you can join us on MAGIC! :
: :
: The messages are reproduced as they appear on the computer :
: screen. :
: :
: Individually, I also want you to know that you, both as a :
: magician and as an individual, have made a great impression :
: on me, that you are in my thoughts, and that I wish you all :
: the best. :
: :
: Sincerely, :
: :
: David Lichtman :
: :
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
For those who would like to continue to offer support to Al Goshman,
his address is Albert Goshman, 11226 Kamloops, Lakeview Terrace, Ca.
91342
Msg #2033 Dated 11:43:52 10-29-90
From: PETE BIRO
To: HOWIE SCHWARTZMAN
Re: HOWDY
I hear you have logged on to the MAGIC! BBS. I hope so. You will find
lots of interesting folks on board. Tabby Crabb is one of the more
visible guys, he is on practically every day, as I am as well. I have
the usual IBM Clone in my office, but when travelling I keep in touch
via a new NEC UltraLite Laptop. It is very small, weighs about 4 lbs,
and does all I need it to do. See you down the road.
Msg #2035 Dated 15:07:19 10-29-90 -> 2055
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: ALL
Re: VERNON & JENNINGS
Talked with Larry Jennings about Dai Vernon while I was at the Inn
Event. He said that while Dai's mind is in great shape, his body is
not. For Dai, this is VERY frustrating. He has had some rough times
lately. Let's hope he gets better. In the mean time send him a card,
let him know we still care about him.
Also asked Larry about the 5 Card Mental force. He says that the
best way to present it is as described in the Early Vernon book. He
also noted that he'd seen Vernon do the effect with cards others than
those usually used with complete success!
Larry also showed me some things about Malini's hat loading trick.
I'd read the description in the Malini book and though it was
interesting that Malini had used a block of ice without being detected.
But there isn't much there about the actual presentation and I didn't
see much potential. Boy was I wrong (as Eugene Burger says, lack of
imagination is our biggest problem). Larry thinks it is one of the
best bar tricks and had several amusing stories regarding his use of
it.
Charlie
Msg #2036 Dated 15:07:54 10-29-90
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BOOKS AND WALTER
We have the Gibson Conjuror's Magazines. Maybe had is a better
word, as we only have 6 copies left -- they were one of the more
popular magazines. Now Linking Rings on the other hand....
I agree that Walter Blaney should do a book, he is extremely
knowledgeable and has been around forever. Even dabbled in politics.
There's a combination -- magic and politics. As for H&R publishing
it, I don't know. Sounds like a lot of work. The used book business
is a lot harder than I thought it would be. A whole bunch of time is
spent on mundane chores like cataloging, making lists, and trying to
determine prices. Considering the time required, I don't see how
anyone could make a living at it. I'm not complaining though 'cause it
sure is fun digging through the libraries and reading the books.
Charlie
Msg #2039 Dated 16:20:53 10-29-90 -> 2056
From: TABBY CRABB
To: HOUDINI
Re: CONAN DOYLE
I understand that you and Arthur Conan Doyle were close friends, but
that he thought that you could materialize and dematerialize (maybe the
other way around) at will. What is your reaction to this statement?
Msg #2040 Dated 16:47:30 10-29-90 -> 2041
From: JIM SISTI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FELLOW EAST COASTER
Just wanted to say hello. I call here as frequently as I can, and
expect to do so more often as I have just started online with PC
Pursuit. I live in Connecticut and do restaurant magic full-time. (I
also publish a magazine for restaurant and bar magicians...Frank Garcia
just mentioned it in the new Magic Manuscript. Anyway...I see you on
here quite often and just thought I would introduce myself.
Msg #2041 Dated 17:18:54 10-29-90 2040 <--> 2044
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: FELLOW EAST COASTER
Hi Jim,
Thanks. I was just in the Big Apple at the CMJ Music Marathon at the
Vista Hotel and World Trade Center. Wish I'd of know you were close by,
maybe we coulduv gotten together. I'm up there every month or two
anyway. I'll give you a holler next time and maybe we can get together.
How's the new magazine doing? I've seen you on here before and wondered
about your publication. If there is anything I can do let me
know.--Tabman---
Msg #2043 Dated 17:23:53 10-29-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: BOOKS AND WALTER
I agree. Walter could write a great book. His experience is large as
well as his heart. I'm a fan at anyrate. Looking forward to ya'lls next
H&R list with anticipation. Glad you're back and thanks.--Tabman---
Msg #2044 Dated 17:58:31 10-29-90 2041 <--> 2048
From: JIM SISTI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FELLOW EAST COASTER
Next time you're around, definitely give me a call. NYC is only about
about 90 minutes away from here. I meant to ask you...do you use PC
Pursuit or some other cost-cutting modality to call out here? As far
as anything you can do concerning "The Magic Menu," we're always
looking for original magic suitable for a walk-around performer. Let
me know. If you have something, we can set up a file transfer
directly. Let me know... --Jim
Msg #2047 Dated 19:19:16 10-29-90 2017 <--> 2049
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: AWARDS TV SHOW
Missed it. You didn't happen to tape it did you?
Msg #2048 Dated 19:31:41 10-29-90 2044 <--> 2068
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: FELLOW EAST COASTER
I will definately drop you a line. Do you use a fax?? There were a
couple of routines I used in my bar days that might prove useful to
your readers.--TC---
Msg #2049 Dated 19:33:01 10-29-90 2047 <--> 2070
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: AWARDS TV SHOW
I've got it on tape...The show from the Castle too.
Msg #2050 Dated 20:27:48 10-29-90 -> 2059
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: ALL
Re: NEW SHOP
Just wanted to let you all know that my wife and I have now opened
our magic shop in the Claremont (the one near Pomona) area.. The
official grand opening will be on the 10 & 11 of November.. Hope to
see you all there.. Address is, 415 W. Foothill suite m-5 that's in
the Griswolds old school house, in Claremont phone is (714) 621-6957..
Msg #2051 Dated 20:31:34 10-29-90 -> 2072
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: ALL
Re: THREAD
This is in response to whoever asked about the different sizes of
Finn Jon thread loops avilible through Stevens.. The large loop is
worn around the neck, and usually placed just below the lip, when
needed one end is secured and then placed around some object, ie. a
glass or even a card case.. ( I have also tried it around my knee
while sitting on a couch with my leggs crossed ) The small loop is worn
around the wrist or hand and employed to do free floating things
between the hands, like dollar bills..
Msg #2052 Dated 20:51:07 10-29-90 2021 <--> 2073
From: MARK LODGE
To: NARAYANAN VIJAYKUMAR (X)
Re: MAGIC IN THE BAY AREA
THERE ARE TWO MAGIC SHOPS IN SAN FRANCISCO, AND OFCOURSE I CANNOT
REMEMBER THEIR NAMES. CONTACT TOM NIXON IN SANTA ROSA THROUGH SALES
STAR FOR THE INSIDE SCOOP IN THE BAY AREA.
Msg #2053 Dated 20:59:25 10-29-90 -> 2062
From: MARK LODGE
To: ALL
Re: TABLED CARD SWITCH
I AM LOOKING FOR A TABLED CARD SWITCH WHICH FULFILLS THE FOLLOWING: I
HAVE A SINGLE CARD FACE DOWN ON THE TABLE. THE DECK IS IN MY POCKET. MY
HANDS ARE EMPTY (TO ALLOW OTHER "WORK"). I NEED TO REACH DOWN, PICK UP
THE CARD AND FLASH THE FACE AS I FOLD IT IN HALF. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE
PICK-UP AND THE FOLD I NEED TO VANISH THIS CARD. NOTE: THE CARD IS
SIGNED AND PLACED FACE DOWN ON THE TABLE BY THE VOLUNTEER.
I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR DIRECTIONS TO HELP ME KEEP THIS
SWITCH CLEAN AND "LEGIT".
THANKS, MARK
Msg #2055 Dated 23:32:20 10-29-90 2035 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: VERNON & JENNINGS
Thanks for the report, Charlie! You packed some real info into a
couple of paragraphs. Sorry to hear Jenning's report on Dai, and, yes,
let's get those cards going. They can be addressed to him c/o The
Magic Castle, 7001 Franklin Ave., Hollywood, Ca. 90028.
Msg #2056 Dated 23:36:17 10-29-90 2039 <--> 2067
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: HOUDINI
Re: CONAN DOYLE
Harry - It IS the right time of year, so if you want to answer Tabby's
message, go right ahead! Oh! By the way, the first time you sign on,
be sure to leave a Comment to the Sysop with your address!
P.S. - If you run into Elvis, send our regards.
Msg #2059 Dated 23:40:10 10-29-90 2050 <--> 2071
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: NEW SHOP
Ken, I hope to get to the Grand Opening. I have to be in Pomona one of
those days, so may make it. Good luck with the new venture!
Msg #2060 Dated 23:42:26 10-29-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: NEW FILE - JAZZY.ZIP
Jim Sisti has uploaded a new file, JAZZY.ZIP, which describes his
"Jazzy Transposition" variation of Peter Kane's Jazzy Aces. The
description was written by Harry Lorayne and appeared in the October,
'90 issue of Apocalypse. Permission for us to present it here has been
granted, so download it and enjoy!
Msg #2062 Dated 2:57:26 10-30-90 2053 <--> 2074
From: T A WATERS
To: MARK LODGE (X)
Re: TABLED CARD SWITCH
Mark, you will find an excellent switch in Rick Johnsson's book
PRACTICAL IMPOSSIBILITIES -- it's in the Castle Library. The switch is
a bit angly but in the right circumstances very deceptive.
Msg #2063 Dated 6:57:03 10-30-90 -> 2076
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: CATCHING BULLETS
Charlie,
Am most insterested in hearing details of Ben R's version of the bullet
catch. One of my main interests is the performance and methodology of
this most dangerous of all tricks (except of course max Maven's}i
b;lindfolded walking onto a movie set and almost being killed by the
director).--TC---
Msg #2064 Dated 8:56:32 10-30-90
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: RING 21 NOV MEETING
Our next meeting of I.B.M. RING 21 will be held on Thursday November 1,
1990 at the "HAUNTED" WATTLES MANSION located at 1824 N. Curson Ave. in
Hollywood (SEE MAGIC! BULLETIN: MAG1.ASC for directions). This month we
will celebrate All hallow's Eve with a Halloween Party at the "Haunted
Mansion"!! Hop in your favorite costume, grab your family and friends
and join us for an evening of fun and entertainment!!
PERFORMERS Come and see shows starring "THE PHANTOM" and "CHRISTOPHER
MARTIN" in the library at 8:30, 9:15, and 10:00. Or catch some
finger-flinging at our Close-Up Jamming Table with impromptu shows by
"BOB WEISS" and "BILL COOMER". Be sure to bring along your favorite
close-up effect and sign up to perform along with Bob and Bill. (NOTE:
Bill is our special guest lecturer on Sunday November 4th!)
COSTUME CONTEST: Special "SECRET" judges will be casting their votes
during the evening to select three finalists for our costume contest.
ADMISSION: Admission is free for members of Ring 21. Guests will be
charged $3.00 each. Doors open at 7:30 pm. (NOTE: COSTUME OR MASK IS
REQUIRED!!!! Masks will be available at the door for $1.00.)
MISCELLANY: There will a full-service no-host bar available as well a
punch, cookies and assorted goodies. LOIS HARMEYER and MYKE SOBEL will
be providing walk-around entertainment. Children are welcome too!!
PARKING:
Due to recent complaints from neighbors, the Wattles Mansion has asked
that everyone please park in the areas provided by the Mansion! DO NOT
PARK ON THE PUBLIC STREETS!!! There will be parking volunteers, headed
by TIM BOYD, to help direct you to these areas.
FROM:
(The November 1990 issue of "THE FLEMING FLASHPAPER" the official
newsletter of the I.B.M. CARYL FLEMING RING 21)
For more information contact Joe Selph at (213) 660-2998 and mention
that you heard about Ring 21 here on the MAGIC! BBS.
SEE YOU THERE!!!!!
Msg #2065 Dated 9:22:16 10-30-90
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: SPECIAL LECTURE SERIES CO
RING 21, in conjunction with Aronald Furst, is proud to present "THE
CLOSE-UP MAGIC OF BILL COOMER". This special lecture will be presented
on SUNDAY NOVEMBER 4, 1990 at the Cedar Lodge Recreation room located
at 2018 Griffith Park Blvd. in Los Angeles. The lecture will begin at
8:00 pm and munchies and soda will be provided as usual.
Bill Coomer comes to us from St. Louis and is no stranger to magic.
Having been a student of Leo Benke as well as having written a book on
magic, Bill promises an exciting evening of prestidigitation. For thos
of you who are not familiar with Bill, you can get a sneak preview of
his work at our "HAUNTED MANSION" party on November 1st. Bill will be
performing along with Bob Weiss and others at our Close-Up Table.
Admission to the special lecture on November 4th will be $5.00 per
person. Members and non-members are welcom to attend, however, we must
limit this lecture to 30 people. If you are interested in attending,
contact Joe Selph at (213) 660-2998 or sign up at the November meeting.
(NOTE: We do need a minimum of 10 people to be able to present this
lecture. Please let Joe know as soon a possible if you will be
attending)
FROM:
(The November 1990 issue of "THE FLEMING FLASHPAPER" the official
newsletter of the I.B.M. CARYL FLEMING RING 21.)
A PERSONAL NOTE FROM DARRELL:
For those of you out there in the Los Angeles area who are just
starting out in magic or wish to add some polish, these lectures are
great and Ring 21 is a good place to get that extra help you may need.
DARRELL MURPHY
(THE GUY BEHIND THE CAMERA)
Msg #2067 Dated 10:17:57 10-30-90 2056 <--> 2082
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONAN DOYLE
You guys are full of it. I happen to know that Houdini and Elvis are
about to open a theme park in Alma Ata. This is the home of the Russian
winners of the FISM Grand Prix at Bruxxells. (Note correct spelling of
Brussells). Alma Ata is about as far to the East as you can get on a
map of the Soviet Union. The winners, Sultangali Shukurov and Sara
Kabajugina, were all set to perform at one of our recent IBM
conventions, but the inability to get their Visas caused a
cancellation. I am going to re-open negotitions with them for the '92
IBM set for Salt Lake City.
Back to Harry and Elvis. Their theme park will be unique, in that all
that enter will be put into straight jackets and they have to beat
Steve Baker's Grimacing before Anverdi (who will be in a hidden
building) presses the radio control button to free them.
All the while Elvis will be playing the Star Spangled Banner as Rosanne
handles the lyrics.
Msg #2068 Dated 10:23:41 10-30-90 2044 <--> 2069
From: PETE BIRO
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: FELLOW EAST COASTER
Nice to have you online, Jim. No fair being a Read Only Member. Lets
have some critical comments, etc.
Msg #2069 Dated 10:24:22 10-30-90 2048 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FELLOW EAST COASTER
Who, TAB, put 'em in a file, fooy on faxes!
Msg #2070 Dated 10:24:51 10-30-90 2047 <--> 2091
From: PETE BIRO
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: AWARDS TV SHOW
Sorry Burt, but the divorce scene has the tape machine on my wife's TV
and I get to use the Satellite but got no VCR on it.
Msg #2071 Dated 10:25:45 10-30-90 2050 <--> 2288
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: NEW SHOP
Good going, Ken, and best of luck. Hey... is the Comedy Club still in
the basement of the Griswold complex? I worked there a week one time
with Gary Shandling before he became as well known as I am !
Msg #2072 Dated 10:27:07 10-30-90 2051 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: THREAD
Yeah, and if you ever saw Finn use these you would kill to be 1/100th
as clever. Anything Finn has published, marketed, you name it... is
brilliant. This guy is ON ALL THE TIME.
I have gone into a restaurant with him and within 5 minutes, has set up
the area, hooking threads all over the place and then does miracles.
The first time I saw ESOTERIC (the greatest visual card trick in
history -- ask Karrell Fox) MY KNEES WENT LIMP AND I ACTUALLY FELL OVER
BACKWARDS. Luckily I fell back against a soft couch.
I did this for Fox at a trade show in the lobby at Chicago and we
stopped about 200 people. Fox had no idea how it worked. If you don't
know it, get it. Trust Me. I hope Joe Stevens sells. It used to be an
exclusive with Ken Brooke.
Msg #2073 Dated 10:30:30 10-30-90 2052 <--> 2135
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARK LODGE (X)
Re: MAGIC IN THE BAY AREA
The best magic show (to my knowledge and taste) is House of Magic. Mark
Burger took over from his Father. It is at 2025 Chestnut St. (at
Fillmore). Phone 415-346-2218. It is in the Marina Dist. While you are
there go to the restaruant to the left of the shop and order a Joe's
Special. Killer meal! I got the recipe and make this often. One of my
favorites and nobody makes it better. I think restaurant is called New
Joe's. Mark has not only th enew stuff, but is hooked into the really
great collectable stuff. His dad helped Dr. Albo build his great
collection.
Msg #2074 Dated 10:33:44 10-30-90 2053 <--> 2086
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARK LODGE (X)
Re: TABLED CARD SWITCH
Slydini had a great method of doing this. My books are in storage so I
cannot look this up. But basically your left hand rests at the table
edge with index finger and thumb over edge. Card is shown in right hand
drops down card lapped and card held by (I forgto to tell you the left
finger/thumb are holding a card) finger/thumb is taken in now empty
right hand. This is really tough to describe here. I might be called
the "IMP PASS". If you know and understand Slydini's timing, puases
and the way he would drop his hand to "rest" etc. you will be able to
do this. If not....??? Find somone that can show you how he does
things. Maybe there are some videos, I don't know. Let me know how this
works. Adios.
Msg #2076 Dated 10:38:07 10-30-90 2063 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CATCHING BULLETS
Have you ever seen Kreskin demonstrate muscle reading? There is a book
on the subject somewhere. I'm sure TA Waters will know. This is the
closest thing to the REAL STUFF that I have ever heard of or witnessed.
We once did a blindfold drive with the driver (It was a high-school
publicity stung to get a totally unknown Nerd elected student body
president) anyway HE WAS ARRESTED by the local cops. The students
storemd the police station and once I explained to the chief what we
were doing and that the driver really could see we were "excused". The
guy came so close to winning we could have, but didn't, ask for a
recount. Boy was that fun.
Msg #2082 Dated 12:08:45 10-30-90 2067 <--> 2228
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CONAN DOYLE
And the big trick will be changing rubbles into dollars, right?
Well, as I said, 'tis the season, what with the usual Houdini returns
on Halloween stuff and all. I had nothing to do with the following,
but here is a portion of the MAGIC! log...
1 10-30-90 7:50:53 AM Call Answered at 1200 Baud
1 10-30-90 7:50:56 AM Parity Switched to 7E
1 10-30-90 7:51:08 AM Invalid Sign-On
1 10-30-90 7:58:18 AM Call Answered at 1200 Baud
1 10-30-90 7:58:22 AM Parity Switched to 7E
1 10-30-90 7:59:21 AM H HOUDINI logged on
1 10-30-90 8:00:06 AM H HOUDINI logged off
Apparently, no Comment requesting registration was left.
So we didn't register him. Also, the
righthand column indicates the incomming line and the call came in on
line 1, a normal phone line. I tend to discourage pranksters, so,
Harry, if you read this, you may want to try line 13 -- then we will
definitely believe you!
Msg #2085 Dated 17:22:30 10-30-90 -> 2096
From: JIM SISTI
To: ALL
Re: LASER PRINTING
If anyone has a laser printer or has access to one and would like to
make a little spare change, could you please let me know? I just
upgraded to software for my restaurant magic newsletter and it really
is crying out to be printed on a laser. All the local print shops
only do laser printing from diskettes in the Macintosh format. I need
IBM.
Msg #2086 Dated 17:36:43 10-30-90 2074 <--> 2107
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TABLED CARD SWITCH
Another approach is the Marlo/D'Amico "Propelled Lapping" technique,
first published in the _New Jinx_ magazine in the 1960's (available in
a bound volume from Kaufman/Greenberg).
None of the methods suggested thus far are done with empty hands
(after all, the card to be rung in has to come from somewhere), but in
this handling the second card can be brought into play very quickly,
and as the title suggests the card switched out is promptly lapped, so
there's only a brief moment when you've got two cards.
Msg #2087 Dated 17:57:04 10-30-90 -> 2108
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FAX FOOEY
OK, you've got it. I'll be uploading one of my fave effects in a few
days. Muscle reading sounds interesting. Just got the Bart Whaley "Whos
Who in Magic" and it is an excellent book along with TA Waters
Encyclopedia makes for some pretty good home research. I've been most
interested in the bullet catch, especially the Orville Meyer method
used by Theo. Annemann. My wife is a former Olympic (1984 US Team)
marksperson and we've done that method a couple of times for closed
gatherings. I was curious about the Ben Robinson method and
presentation. I don't have much insight into what he's up to even
though I've read 12 Have Died by him. I just got Mr. Meyers address and
will be dropping him a line and hope to get a response. I'll keep u
posted. Regards......TC
Msg #2089 Dated 19:00:41 10-30-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: UPLOAD
Jim,
I just uploaded a simple as dirt torn and restored card effect for
you (and everyone). Please use it if you want.
It's called "TORN"....Tabman
Msg #2091 Dated 20:38:42 10-30-90 2070 <-
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: AWARDS TV SHOW
Thanks anyway. Sorry to hear about the divorce.
Msg #2092 Dated 20:40:57 10-30-90
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: ALL
Re: K & L MAGIC, CLAREMONT, C
I just stopped by Ken Hensley's new magic shop in Claremont, CA. WOW!
It's spacious (over 1,000 square feet) and very well laid out. Lots of
stock from all the major manufacturers and publishers, including most
of the new releases. Unlike most magic stores all the items are well
displayed-no cramped stacks of boxes. Best of all everything in the
store is magic! that's right- no masks, gags, etc just magic. Besides
all the stuff you see in other good magic shops Ken is also the only
west coast retailer for Collectors Workshop. The staff is friendly and
will explain things BEFORE YOU BUY! That way there is no way you can
feel dissapointed or ripped off when you buy something. There are also
two large tables with chairs all around in the shop for visiters to sit
and kibbutz or leaf through one of the many books available. The store
is open now (9:30 am-6:30pm) but the Grand Opening will be Nov 10&11
with a few "name" magi present. There will also be food for all the
guests. Let's all stop by and support this new venture. The address is
415 W. Foothill, Claremont, CA. This is in an old highschool that has
been converted into a very upscale "artsy" shopping center. Go up the
large stairway in front to get into the building and make a right turn.
Ken's is the first shop. Ken's phone is (714)626-1773 or leave a
message on this bulletin board for KEN HENSLEY
Msg #2096 Dated 22:21:38 10-30-90 2085 <--> 2106
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: LASER PRINTING
We have HP LaserJet Series II's in our office, Jim. I'm sure we could
arrange to print for you. You can let me know the details in a private
message, or by calling me at the office.
Msg #2099 Dated 22:32:33 10-30-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: TORN & RESTORED CARD
Tabby's file, TORN, is now in the files area. Remember, to list the
files you go to the File SubSystem and type L;13 (that's the letter
L followed by a semi-colon [;] followed by the "MAGIC! number" 13) and
press the ENTER key.
Msg #2101 Dated 22:37:20 10-30-90 -> 2109
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: AL GOSHMAN
Al Goshman called this evening to thank y'all for the messages. He was
pleased to hear from so many of you.
We talked for a while and it is possible, if he is up to it, that he
will join us here on MAGIC! I know that all of us look forward to
having him on here.
Msg #2104 Dated 5:49:16 10-31-90 -> 2151
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: VIDEO TAPE
Hi Burt,
Either way is fine with me. Let me know. Its a VHS tape. I'll be glad
to copy it or send it out to you to watch. If you want to send me a
tape send to T. Crabb, Box 590, Charlotte Hall, MD 2062. Let me know as
I'm on here most every day.
Msg #2105 Dated 5:51:36 10-31-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: GRAND OPENING
Wish I could be with you for the grand opening. From Burts message it
sound great. Much like M&M Magic in Atlanta a decade or so ago. Best of
luck and may you long prosper.
Msg #2106 Dated 9:42:30 10-31-90 2085 <--> 2138
From: PETE BIRO
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: LASER PRINTING
Give me more details. What format? I have Ventura Publishing and Word
Perfect 5.1 with a Hewlett Packard Laserjet II. If you send me a copy
of your previously printed newsletter and computer info. I might be
able to help. Send to PO Box 1009, Gualala, CA 95445.
Msg #2107 Dated 9:44:34 10-31-90 2086 <--> 2131
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: TABLED CARD SWITCH
You are right Maven-San. Problem is guys ask for methods that may not
exist. Wanting the "hand(s)" empty is not possible with a single card
on the table. You are right the other card has to come from somewhere.
AH... just remembered a great switch that Matt Corin invented (Marlo
saw him do it and published 'HIS VARIATION' somewhere). Only difference
to the request is that a double card is on the table. Matt wavd his
hands over a face-up card on table. and it visibly changed. As his
hands moved across his right thumb kicked the top of the double into
his lap. It doesn't read great, but if you saw it done properly under
the right setup it was a killer. reminds me of the old Tosheroon Harry
Stanley put out with the deck on table, large coin on face card, and
card switched visibly. (Hole in card). I remember Kaps doing this one
night in a very heavy session, with some serious European fans
watching. Fred leaned back with the palmed card and some big guy
flipped out totally and grabbed Fred wanting to SHAKE HANDS with the
man that just did the greatest card trick he had ever seen. poor Fred
had the card in his right hand. But Fred, his savoir faire, etc. got
him out of it without a handshake. Beautiful to see the scene.
Msg #2108 Dated 9:50:51 10-31-90 2087 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FAX FOOEY
If you like the bullet catch you gotta get the video from Joe
Stevens with Hans Morretti's version. He has (I think) 3 guys shoot at
him, breaking glass in front of his face. I have helped on this and
been backstage watching and have NO IDEA AS TO METHOD. Biggest problem
is the flying broken glass. He wears heavy goggles, but last time I saw
him do it he had a couple of glass cuts inhis forehead.
Also, some time ago I saw a guy on ABC Wide World of Sports put a set
of STAINLESS STEEL FALSE TEETH in to catch the bullet. Funny idea.
Msg #2109 Dated 9:54:41 10-31-90 2101 <--> 2115
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: AL GOSHMAN
Great news about Goshimann (that's the name I put on him after we spent
two weeks hangin' out together, eating Sushi, etc., in tokyo.
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Msg #2111 Dated 10:33:04 10-31-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: MAD FAX
Just got MAD FAX from Jeff Busby Magic. My devious soul wants me to
keep my mouth shut, but in a sense of free communication I must tell
you ---G E T I T !!!
Msg #2115 Dated 12:11:08 10-31-90 2109 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: AL GOSHMAN
Yes, I hope to encourage him to sign on. He has the equipment at home.
I think it would keep him in touch with magic and would certainly
provide a plus for MAGIC! members.
Msg #2122 Dated 14:39:53 10-31-90 -> 2125
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: ANOTHER 4 ACE TRICK
Here's a great opening sequence for a card routine I have been
using for years. Nothing difficult, but good effect.
Unfortunately I don't recall who's it is, it was part of a batch
of variations of the same effect. Other variants were harder to
do and I stuck with this one because it was so EASY.
Have your deck in the case set up with 3 Aces on the bottom
and 1 on top. Do a couple of riffle shuffles without disturbing
setup. Place deck on table and ask someone to cut the cards into
approximately two near-equal piles.
When done, move them apart a bit if needed so that they can
then cut "about half the cards off this pile" point to the packet
that contains the bottom stock and have them cut some off and
place between the first two piles. Then repeat with the top
stock.
You now have from your left to right. One quarter of the
deck with 3 P¬Öat bottom, followed by two packets of all
indifferent cards and the final, at your right, with an Ace on
top.
Pick up the left packet and comment, "You decided where to
cut the cards. You could have cut here (spread the packet a
little) or here (spread more) or even here (this time you spread
to the bottom and when closing the spread, get a break between
the bottom 3 cards (Aces) and the packet) But you cut here. Free
hand points to top card of packet. And then you say, "And here"
as you say that pick the top (indifferent) card off the second
pile, "And here" pick top card off next pile, "And here" pick up
the top card off the right hand (last) pile. Each card is placed
onto packet in left hand.
Here's the only move.
Right hand in Biddle (straddle) grip pulls out to the right
all cards above the break, while left thumb holds back the top
card (Ace) leaving you with four cards (Aces) in the left hand.
During that pull out to right move, the Left Thumb actually
assists as the cards coming out to right are used to lever the
top card (Ace) face up onto the 3 cards in the left hand. This
immediate surprise sets up the pacing for the finish.
Immediately place the cards in right hand back on table and
deal FACE UP, an ACE onto each of the four piles.
If you don't like four ace tricks, use any other four of a
kind.
Msg #2125 Dated 16:41:19 10-31-90 2122 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ANOTHER 4 ACE TRICK
Nice effect, Pete! Thanks!
Msg #2127 Dated 17:17:00 10-31-90 -> 2129
From: DOTTIE WEISS
To: ALL
Re: ERIC'S MESSAGES
Hi there! I'm Dottie, sometimes called Edel, Weiss, Eric, er,
"Harry's" cousin. Seems that this new MAGIC! communications thingy is
finally something that, going through the ether, Harry can understand.
BUT, he says to tell you that he hasn't been in touch in all these
years because Earth uses the WRONG calendar! That's right! You've got
that A.D. thingy going and it is ALL WRONG. See, up where we are it is
the 12th of Heshvan, 5751 and Halloween is, well, it's some other day,
we're really not sure when. I gotta run now, they charge a fortune for
these long-distance calls, but we just wanted to wish you a Happy
Halloween down there and to tell you that we're trying to straighten
the whole thing out. Harry would have sent this message himself, but,
well, he's all tied up right now!
Oh, yeah! We both want to send special greetings and thoughts to Al
Goshman and Dai Vernon!
Msg #2129 Dated 19:10:09 10-31-90 2127 <--> 2132
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DOTTIE WEISS
Re: ERIC'S MESSAGES
Thanks. Harry's cousin for real?
Msg #2130 Dated 19:11:05 10-31-90 -> 2134
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: HALLOWEEN
And I was gonna wait til midnight on the left coast to see if he
checked in. Guess my timing was good after all. Good night. See ya'll
later.
Msg #2131 Dated 19:35:39 10-31-90 2107 <--> 2136
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TABLED CARD SWITCH
The move is best known these days under Marlo's title, the Eidetic
Change. It's a pretty thing, but primarily for an explicit switch
(i.e., openly transforming one card into another). The necessary
sweeping action is difficult to do as a "casual" gesture for a secret
exchange.
Msg #2132 Dated 22:36:37 10-31-90 2129 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ERIC'S MESSAGES
All I can tell you, Tabby, is that the log shows the call as having
come in on LINE 0. Yep, line zero. And Randy Lund was on at the same
time! Here's the log:
1 10-31-90 4:54:45 PM Call Answered at 1200 Baud
1 10-31-90 4:54:55 PM RANDY LUND logged on
1 10-31-90 5:10:42 PM DOWNLOAD\JADE.PCX downloaded using Xmodem
0 10-31-90 5:13:13 PM DOTTIE WEISS logged on
0 10-31-90 5:13:40 PM DOTTIE WEISS logged off
1 10-31-90 5:14:48 PM DOWNLOAD\MAGAZINE.TXT downloaded using Xmodem
1 10-31-90 5:16:02 PM DOWNLOAD\DEALERS.TXT downloaded using Xmodem
0 10-31-90 5:16:26 PM DOTTIE WEISS logged on
1 10-31-90 5:18:07 PM DOWNLOAD\CHILDREN.TXT downloaded using Xmodem
0 10-31-90 5:23:36 PM DOTTIE WEISS logged off
1 10-31-90 5:24:06 PM DOWNLOAD\MINDSCAN.EXE downloaded using Xmodem
1 10-31-90 5:29:54 PM DOWNLOAD\PKUNZIP.EXE downloaded using Xmodem
1 10-31-90 5:32:30 PM DOWNLOAD\PREDICT.TXT downloaded using Xmodem
1 10-31-90 5:38:06 PM DOWNLOAD\ESPTEST.ZIP downloaded using Xmodem
1 10-31-90 5:39:11 PM DOWNLOAD\ACE_CUT.TXT downloaded using Xmodem
1 10-31-90 5:44:57 PM DOWNLOAD\PASSPORT.TXT downloaded using Xmodem
1 10-31-90 5:45:09 PM RANDY LUND logged off
Remember, the first column shows the line the call came in on! Ain't
Halloween grand!
Msg #2134 Dated 22:47:30 10-31-90 2130 <--> 2139
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: HALLOWEEN
Halloween is one of my favorite holidays. First, of course, there is
the "magic connection." Second, is its incredible age -- I suspect it
is one of the oldest holidays in the World, certainly well over 2,000
years old. Third, the whole idea of costumes and the ability to "stop
out of one's self." And fourth are the kids. We had very close to 100
"trick or treaters" at our door. My favorite this year was a homemade
costume -- the girl was dressed as a sunny side up egg!
One kid, probably 11 or 12 years old, said something to his buddy after
he got his candy; something like "See, they always give you the
treat..." I had some flashpaper nearby and wafted it over a candle --
POOF! Then I said, "Oh, did you want the trick instead?" He backed
away saying, "Uh, no, that's OK, uh, no, really....."
Msg #2135 Dated 1:06:01 11-01-90 2021 <--> 2137
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: NARAYANAN VIJAYKUMAR
Re: MAGIC IN THE BAY AREA
There used to be a shop in ?Sarratoga? called "The Magic Touch" I was
there once, about 9 years ago. Good Luck
Doug
Msg #2136 Dated 1:42:45 11-01-90 2062 <--> 2142
From: MARK LODGE
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: 2064
T A,
THANKS, I WILL LOOK IT UP TODAY (11-01). SEE YOU SOON.
MARK
Msg #2137 Dated 1:47:59 11-01-90 2073 <-
From: MARK LODGE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC IN THE BAY AREA
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION ON THE MAGIC SHOP IN SF. ACTUALLY, I WAS
RESPONDING TO A REQUEST FOR THIS INFORMATION BY ANOTHER BB READER. I
APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND WILL CHECK OUT "JOE'S SPECIAL" THE NEXT
TIME I'M IN THE CITY. THANKS AGAIN.
MARK
Msg #2138 Dated 1:57:04 11-01-90 2085 <--> 2435
From: MARK LODGE
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: LASER PRINTING
I HAVE ACCESS TO A CANNON LASER PRINTER AND ANTICIPATE PURCHASING A HP
LASER JET WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO. I AM IN THE IBM FORMAT USING
WORDPERFECT 5.0 AND HAVING ACCESS TO SEVERAL OLD VERSIONS OF MS WORD
AND WORDSTARR 2000. IF I CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE, LET ME KNOW.
MARK LODGE, (213) 839 - 5864
Msg #2139 Dated 6:39:16 11-01-90 2134 <--> 2141
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: HALLOWEEN
Thats good. Nobody comes by here to trick of treat. This old (203 yrs)
house had a reputation for being haunted for 30++ years while my crazy
uncle was in and out of here between living in a straw hut in Mexico.
The house has two ghosts (I think they are my grandparents, but I can't
be sure at this point - could be spirits of their servants as they stay
mostly in the servants quarters above the west wing. I'm trying to find
out because I'm considering selling out for commercial property and
relocating back to the Nashville area. Though I'm involved with hard
rock music (because of localle) I'd be happier in central Tennessee and
the music scene around Nash...
Msg #2141 Dated 8:36:32 11-01-90 2139 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: HALLOWEEN
Er, do I take it, Tabbman, that if it turns out the house is haunted by
your grandparents you will ask their opinion of the change? Or do you
figure they would enjoy living in something like an amusement park?
(You are probably in the perfect location to create "Congressland," a
theme park where the rides all cost far more than they should and
almost never work). Or do you plan to toss 'em in the back of a U-Haul
and take 'em to Nashville?
Msg #2142 Dated 9:46:10 11-01-90 2131 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: TABLED CARD SWITCH
Corin had it down "pat" and it was a killer. As are most moves by the
creators, as they are usually the ones that worked the most on e
them. Please say hello, etc., to Maki, Ton, Yoshi, etc. when you get
over there. Good thing I am staying here. Some things happenning I
can't be away from up here situation-wise, if you know what I mean.
Later.
Msg #2145 Dated 10:31:00 11-01-90 -> 2155
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: FIFTY CARD VANISH
Why another card trick? Why not?
I have used this one for years with great success. It usually
works best as a closer, because most of the cards vanish.
I'll let you use your 2nd favorite method (you use your
favorite method too much!) to have two cards chosen and
controlled, one to the top, the other to the bottom.
Hold your left hand about 6-8 inches above the table, about
4 inches in from the rear edge, palm up, with the deck of cards
loosely gripped.
The right hand grips the deck, thumb at rear, 2nd etc. at
front with index finger curled over top, and cards are lifted and
riffled back onto the left hand.
As you do this you ask, "How many cards in a deck? Fifty-
two, right?" (You can't wait for a reply or it blows your
timing). Just as you ask this the left hand drops to the table,
near rear edge. Lift hand grip is, fingers below, thumb on top.
Fingers are straight, not like Mechanic's Grip.
Remember TIMING IS EVERYTHING.
You look right in the eyes of a spectator at your left when
you ask the above question. Do not look down!
As your left hand drops to the table (Slydini Rest Position,
to those that know his ways) IMMEDIATELY LOOK AT SOMEONE TO THE
RIGHT, and say, "How many cards were selected? Two, right?"
As you ask you LAP all the cards except the top and bottom
cards (selections). This is automatic, you let your grip go and
the cards slip out from between the top and bottom cards into
your lap. You need to have a little moistness to your fingers for
help. IT IS EASY AND LITERALLY AUTOMATIC.
Just as you say "Two, right?" you lean forward, left hand
comes up, right grabs one card and you display, with a flourish,
the TWO REMAINING CARDS and say, "Then what happened to the other
FIFTY?"
Msg #2147 Dated 18:46:26 11-01-90 -> 2156
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: GHOSTS
That deal about CongressLand is pretty funny. Actually talking to a
couple of international water bottlers about leasing the place "Spring
Hill Plantation" giving us a per bottle royalty. Our rep says we could
net several hundred thousand per year so maybe we won't be po no mo.
Only in the movies, right?? Who knows. If thats the case, don't hold
your breath but the long distance tele problems could be over for
everyone. Just a dream right now. As far as the ghosts are concerned
I'm really concerned about this. I haven't seen em myself but two
others have experienced them. I'm waiting for a reply from a psychic
now about it. I'll let you know.
Msg #2148 Dated 20:03:41 11-01-90 -> 2152
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SON OF GREATER MAGIC
Just looked you up in Whaley's Who's Who and under your listing it
mentioned that you were working on a book SON OF GREATER MAGIC. What is
this all about?? It sounds interesting and I'm sure it will be a great
book (if this isn't some kind of grand hoax). Do you have a publisher?
I'm sure you won't have any trouble. Also, thank you for telling me
about the vid with the triple bullet catch. Consider it
ordered..Tabman.
Msg #2151 Dated 21:01:07 11-01-90 2104 <-
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEO TAPE
Thanks! A fresh tape is on the way.
Msg #2152 Dated 21:28:57 11-01-90 2148 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SON OF GREATER MAGIC
Son of Greater Magic is being compiled from time to time when I am
inspired. Some day!
Msg #2153 Dated 21:29:40 11-01-90
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: TRAGEDY!!!!
Just picked up a News Flash on the Satellite from Denver. A magician in
Fresno, Calif., doing a "buried alive" stunt at a charity event. Was
killed when the cement they poured into the grave crushed him."
I didn't get the name of the performer or any other details, as Denver
station didn't have much and I missed the first part as I was scanning
the channels. Oh, dear, I wish these guys doing stunts would be more
careful. Am hitting the road for few days, will keep in touch via
laptop. Bye for now. P.B.
Msg #2155 Dated 23:12:35 11-01-90 2145 <--> 2171
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FIFTY CARD VANISH
That 50-card vanish is great, Pete! I really like it. Now, if only I
could get all 50 cards to STAY in my lap!
Msg #2156 Dated 23:14:31 11-01-90 2147 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: GHOSTS
Well, the ghosts could turn into a marketing bonanza -- after all,
Gallo has "Bartle and James" to "thank you for your support." Just
think of what the label could look like for "Spring Hill Plantation."
Hope the deal goes through and that you make a ton of money. And I'll
be interested in what the psychic has to say.
I have a contractor (person who does some software development for me)
who has, for years, lived in a "haunted" house. A few years ago the
ghosts were quite active and they were always finding furniture moved
around in the living room. The only serious "ill-effect" was that the
closet in her son's room was always very cold (in California!) and, as
a child, he refused to go near it. Once she and I entertained a
visiting "techy" from a prospect's office over dinner and she had him on
the edge of his chair with the story of her house. Afterwards I said,
"Why did you get into that whole thing?" She said, "Look, the poor guy
was out here from Ohio for one day. You kept him busy the whole time
and never even let him go investigate the seamy side of 'big L.A.'
This way he at least had a story to go home with!"
Msg #2160 Dated 13:08:26 11-02-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: NEW HOUDINI
He was calling himself the "new houdini" and trying to raise money for
a drug rehab someplace. Its too bad that his plexy coffin was untested
for the weight of the concrete load placed on top. It makes me sad.
Could of been a spectacular stunt as they brought him up and broke away
the hardened concrete. Aloha.
Msg #2162 Dated 15:38:57 11-02-90 -> 2166
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC-04.TXT
The fourth set of MAGIC! messages - #1500 (Sept. 21, 1990) to
#1999 (Oct. 27, 1990) have been transfered to a downloadable file.
This fourth set of MAGIC! messages includes a number of great
effects, the video notetaking discussion, the invisible thread
discussion, and a lot of magic news and gossip. The file is named
MAGIC-04.TXT. This means that you can now go to the file area,
download that file, and read the fourth volume of messages off-line.
For those who know how to use the PKUNZIP system for uncompressing
files, there is a compressed version of this same file. It is
called MAGIC-04.ZIP and is about 1/2 the size of the full-text
version.
Not only will transfering these messages to a file make it easier
for you to obtain a complete set of them, but it will make the
search for new messages easier and faster.
Msg #2163 Dated 16:58:18 11-02-90 -> 2165
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Looking for a source for double faced poker sized playing cards. Double
backers too. I heard Bicycle was making these now. Anybody have any
idea. Thanks.....TC......
Msg #2165 Dated 17:41:50 11-02-90 2163 <--> 2167
From: RICHARD HART
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Double faced/backed poker sized cards can be obtained from most
dealers. Hollywood Magic carries 'em, or if you're out of the area,
I'm sure Tannen's will have 'em.
Have you considered perhaps splitting an old deck, and making your own?
_richard
Msg #2166 Dated 17:52:29 11-02-90 2162 <--> 2168
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC-04.TXT
Ok, I'm new here, and I don't have the foggiest idea where Magic-04.txt
resides. I have looked in the files section and didn't see it.
Perhaps it pulled a disappearing act on me?
I'd really like to peruse that file and see what all goes on here in
this electronic den of wand-wavers...
Can't use the zipped file, as I don't have an IBM compatable....
Such is life.
_richard
Msg #2167 Dated 18:58:06 11-02-90 2165 <--> 2172
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
I tried that splitting routine a few years ago and didn't have much
luck at it. I wouldn't mind trying again if anyone could give me some
insight into the real work here. I'm definately out of the area down on
the Maryland coast, but I do enjoy staying in touch with everyone via
this bbs. Have you successfully split cards. I was thumbing through one
of my Tarbell books the other day for the first time in years and ran
across several cards I had split but I seem to remember that it was a
lot of trouble. Thanxxxx...tc......
Msg #2168 Dated 19:01:44 11-02-90 2166 <--> 2178
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: MAGIC-04.TXT
Go to the Files area. "F" and then List "L;13" to see whats available.
Theres a lot of good stuff there. More all the time. The Sysop says it
so much better though. And, by the way.....welcome...
Msg #2170 Dated 21:59:58 11-02-90 -> 2180
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: ALL
Re: CARD ERASER
I recently came across something in a gift store that should make a
good prop if the right routine were presented with it. The prop is an
eraser the same dimensions as a playing card but about 3/16" thick. The
eraser is white and has a playing card printed in color on one side.
I've thought of writing a prediction in pencil on a piece of paper,
then giving a spectator a "free" choice of cards from the shuffled
pack. When the chosen card does not match the prediction, the magi
would pull out the eraser printed side hidden then erase the
prediction. To close the eraser would be set down on the table printed
side up ala magicians insurance policy. Any other Ideas out there?
Msg #2171 Dated 23:00:28 11-02-90 2155 <--> 2181
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: FIFTY CARD VANISH
Use either a serviette, or kee=|=|t#- keep your knees together.
Msg #2172 Dated 23:02:14 11-02-90 2165 <--> 2173
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
I used to split cards |U= - it is not easy! But ifyou get the knack
there is nothing as good. The -big secrPTet isthe type of glue. I
think we wound up using a photo dry mount press.O] They are available
but only in certain configurations. If you want specific cards backed
try "cards by Martin" he runs ads on accasion -in Genii.
Msg #2173 Dated 23:04:04 11-02-90 2167 <--> 2175
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Tabbo... Am tired, on the raod. ROAD. Next week, if I get the chance
will send you the real work on splitting cards.
Msg #2175 Dated 23:27:38 11-02-90 2163 <--> 2176
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Tabby, if you can't find Bicycle double faced and double backers
locally, let me know what you are looking for and I will get them from
one of the L.A. magic stores and send them to you (if you are pressed
for time, I could probably fax 'em to you). In the case of double
faced, as long as they are the size (bridge or poker) that you need, it
hardly matters if they are Bicycle. The double backers, I believe,
come only in Poker size, but there are red/red, blue/blue, and
red/blue.
Msg #2176 Dated 23:31:45 11-02-90 2173 <--> 2192
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Pete, I too have heard that it is a lot of trouble to split cards
properly. Would be interested in reading your method once you return
home.
Msg #2178 Dated 23:33:19 11-02-90 2166 <--> 2193
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: MAGIC-04.TXT
Right now, to list the files, you have to remember that 13 is the
MAGIC! number.
>From the Main Menu...
o Type F for Files SubSystem and press the ENTER key.
o Type L;13 (the letter L followed by a semi-colon [;]
followed by the number 13) and press the ENTER key.
o The list of MAGIC! files will appear on your screen!
Msg #2180 Dated 23:49:38 11-02-90 2170 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: CARD ERASER
That "card eraser" sounds like a neat gimmick, Burt! Hope I can find
one locally. It might also fit in with a routine that uses blank face
cards... Something along the lines of "erasing" the spectator's card.
Msg #2181 Dated 23:50:54 11-02-90 2171 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FIFTY CARD VANISH
"Use either a serviette, or keep your knees together"??? That sounds
more like advice for my sister! But it does sound like a neat
"50-card" vanish! I'll work on the knee part!
Msg #2183 Dated 23:54:54 11-02-90 -> 2187
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: ARNAUD
It is almost hard to believe, but within hours of MAGIC-04 being put
together it was in Europe! Thanks, of course, to Arnaud, who made FOUR
calls from Holland, in the face of terrible line noise (sattelites are
affected by sunspots, and sunspots affect the Earth worst during Spring
and Fall), to transfer the latest files. As our longest long-distance
caller, I think Arnaud deserves a round of applause!
Msg #2187 Dated 4:39:11 11-03-90 2183 <--> 2196
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ARNAUD
David,
.
Thanx for the applause.
.
Remerber I was trying to set-up a fellow BBS in Holland??
Well my article in the Dutch magic magazine gave more only a handfull
of responses, and now I am using some example messages from MAGIC!
to convince more people, that they can't live without MAGIC! BBS.
.
Will keep you informed,
.
Adios,
Arnaud.
Msg #2188 Dated 4:42:42 11-03-90 -> 2197
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: ALL
Re: PLAY IT STRAIGHT TIP
J.A. Bannon's book impossibilia starts with a great triumph effect
play it straight. Read it and do it!!!
I showed it several times and the reactions are great!
Let me tell you my storyline:
Tell the group you are very exited about the next new effect, and have
someone select a card.
Let him and rest observe the card, and immediately start shuffling
a-la-triumph (ignore card that the spectator still holds).
When shuffling is done tell him that you will find the
card from the deck, and only now you see that the card is still not
brought back in the deck.....(oops...)
Propose to change plans and explain that first face up card will reveal
the suit of the selected card. You come to the ace (say, of spades),
explain their card is a spade and can't of course be an ace, and
immediately continue by spreading the deck, and show all other (minus
the selected spade) spade cards.
Thanks Mr. Bannon for this nice effect.
Arnaud
Msg #2190 Dated 6:42:00 11-03-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SPLITTING
You're a good man, thanks. There are no magi shops around here. There
is one magician though. He's on the county commission and he does kid
shows around here. I heard he did a mean fraidy cat rabbit. After I saw
him I didn't want to tell anyone I was into the "real" stuff. I hope
this meeting of MAGIC! people at the Desert Seminar comes off. I've
already let everyone know I would be in Vegas that week in March. I
would really like to meet everyone and buy you a drink. Maybe Arnaud
can come over too. It sounds great.....David, don't give up on this
idea. it's a good un.---tabman---
Msg #2192 Dated 10:48:22 11-03-90 2167 <--> 2194
From: RICHARD HART
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
In the days before poker sized double facers/backers were easy to get,
I did split my own. Yes, it is harder than he!!, and unless you iron
them well, they don't feel like a normal card. I guess in your case,
the best thing to do is write Tannen's for availability and prices.
_richard
Msg #2193 Dated 10:51:47 11-03-90 2168 <--> 2195
From: RICHARD HART
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC-04.TXT
Thanks, F L;13. I shall do that post haste!
_richard
Msg #2194 Dated 10:56:05 11-03-90 2172 <--> 2199
From: RICHARD HART
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Yes, Pete, there IS nothing like a good self-split card. I've also
toyed around with making pocket cards for various Matrix assemblies.
But now, in my old age (hah! 38), I find it easier to just buy 'em.
I'd rather be spending my time working on a Bannon sleight or just
watching you guys in the close-up gallery at the Castle...
_richard
Msg #2195 Dated 10:59:30 11-03-90 2178 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC-04.TXT
Thanks. I shoulda though of that.... 13 is is!
_richard
Msg #2196 Dated 15:05:48 11-03-90 2183 <--> 2206
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ARNAUD
Hear hear!
_richard
Msg #2197 Dated 15:07:04 11-03-90 2188 <--> 2207
From: RICHARD HART
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: PLAY IT STRAIGHT TIP
I, also, have been knocked off my feet with the magic of John Bannon.
I was first turned-on to Bannon's book, Mirage, by Cosmo Solano who was
working at Magic Emporium. Bannon is a true craftsman, and I can't
wait to save up my money and buy his new video. If you haven't already
gotten a copy of Mirage, do so! There's enough stuff between both
books to keep a hard-line pasteboard addict busy for months.
For those of you interested in coins, I might also suggest anything by
David Neighbors. Dave's coin work is impressive indeed, and he has a
great number of routines that would work well in restaurants. If
there's any interest, I can dig into my archives, and recommend a few
of his books/routines.
_richard
Msg #2198 Dated 15:14:00 11-03-90 -> 2201
From: RICHARD HART
To: ALL
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
I've downloaded Magic-4.txt, and spent a good few minutes reading it.
Extremely pleasing to see the commentary issued forth by the members of
this bbs. Congrats, all!
I would like to toss out my personal use for the PK gimmick. I use it
in a 4 coins thru table effect, where the fourth and final coin gets
stuck half way through the table (visibly!).
Get ahold of a steel-insert half dollar. Place it between two scrap
pieces of 1/4" plywood and place in a small vice. Take a hack saw and
cut the coin in half. Then, after smoothing down the cut edges with a
file, run a bead of superglue down the cut edges and let dry. The glue
prevents the steel shim from falling out. Then, you're ready to begin.
Attach the uh, half half to the gimmick and place in your coat pocket.
Perform your favorite 4 coins thru table effect up to the point where
three coins have passed thru. As your right hand returns from under
the table to drop the three coins onto the table, your left hand goes
to the pocket and retrieves the PK gimmick and places it in your lap
(deep lap position!) and at the same time, finger palming the half
half. As the left hand sweeps the remaining half dollar into your lap,
the palmed half half is brought into the spectator's view--the missing
half half covered by your fingers. The right hand gathers up the three
halves and is returned to its position under the table where it picks
up the PK gimmick and holds it under the table DIRECTLY beneath the
spot where you are going to pass the fourth coin thru the table.
Meanwhile, on top of the table, the left hand smacks the remaining coin
(?) down and, aided by the left thumb and PK gimmick's mojo, the coin
can be balanced on edge. To the spectators this looks like the coin is
stuck half-way into the table. I patter about the coin hitting a nail
in the wood, and use the left hand to attempt to push the coin thru,
wiggling the coin back and forth (this looks bizarre, but wait..).
This failing, I say I'm attempting to pull the other side down thru the
table. I move my left hand away about 8 - 10 inches, and my right hand
moves the PK gimmick under the table slightly forward and back. This
will make the half coin on the table wiggle on its own, as if it were
really being pulled from beneath the table by the right hand. CAUTION.
Don't go overboard with this, as if you move the PK gimmick too much,
the coin will jump up and expose the fact that it is only a half coin.
The left hand then covers the coin and the right returns the PK gimmick
to the lap, and stealing the lapped real half. The left then thumb pad
sweeps the half half away as the right returns above the table to
show the passage of the final four coins.
That's it in a very brief nutshell. I'll allow the rest of you the
post mortems. Comments, anyone?
Final note: I've also considered switching the fourth coin for one
with a bent nail driven through it. As it falls onto the table I could
mutter something about ruining another coin...
Regards,
_richard
Msg #2199 Dated 16:11:08 11-03-90 2163 <--> 2205
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
I a mm pretty sure that TAANNENS sells these
.I
//
therir number ids 212-239-8383
Msg #2201 Dated 18:08:07 11-03-90 2198 <--> 2210
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
Richard,
This is brilliant. Especially the part about trying to pull it through
from underneath moving the PK to make it wiggle. I haven't enjoyed
reading about an effect as much in a while. What if you switched out a
coin that was bent in on one side as if it had hit the nail and gotten
bent on the edge? What do you think.
Msg #2202 Dated 18:10:15 11-03-90 -> 2212
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: SPLITTING HAIRS, I MEAN C
Thank you for the kind offer of getting them for me. I pulled out my
Tannens catalog and sure enough they've got em by the deck. To me a
lifetime supply -- at the rate I'm going two lifetimes at least -- but
cheap enough. Thanks everyone for their advice. I'd still like to see
Pete's info on the real stuff. Keep us posted on the idea of getting
together at the Vegas seminar. For a MAGIC! meeting, I'll show up and
between me and "No Show Jones" we hardly ever get out at all.--best, TC
Msg #2203 Dated 18:41:33 11-03-90 -> 2217
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: ALL
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Hi! I just joined Magic! and I am writing so everyone knows I'm out
there. I am 14 years old & I'm a member of SAM. I've also done a few
parties. I just have some general questions for anyone reading this:
-- Can anyone recommend a good book on card tricks, preferably with
a regular deck?
-- If anybody has tips or advice about doing kid's parties, I'd
really like to hear it.
-- Who do you write to if you want to find out about joining IBM?
-- Since I'm just 14 years old and fairly new to magic, I'd like to
hear from anyone with any general tips or advice about magic.
Thanks in advance, and I hope to hear from you soon.
--- Jonathan Kaufthal
Msg #2205 Dated 22:30:41 11-03-90 2199 <--> 2289
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Tabby,
I was over in Washington area a few weeks ago, and bought a pack of
double facers at Al's magic shop.
So be advised to have them as well.
At your service.....
Arnaud
Msg #2206 Dated 23:40:04 11-03-90 2187 <--> 2225
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: ARNAUD
I'd like to see a copy of the article that appeared in the Dutch magic
magazine. If it wouldn't be a problem, Arnaud, would you please send
me a copy? Address is David Lichtman, ECA Inc., P. O. Box 900, Arleta,
California 91334. Thanks.
As to the Dutch version of MAGIC!, I'll try to help you in any way I
can. But I will warn you that being a sysop is a LOT of work!
Msg #2207 Dated 23:43:13 11-03-90 2188 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: PLAY IT STRAIGHT TIP
Sounds like a nice effect, Arnaud. Thanks!
Msg #2210 Dated 23:46:33 11-03-90 2198 <--> 2221
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
Wow, Richard! That definitely sounds like a GREAT PK effect! Thanks
for sharing it with us.
Msg #2212 Dated 23:49:54 11-03-90 2202 <--> 2218
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SPLITTING HAIRS, I MEAN C
Yes, I too am interested in seeing Pete's method of splitting cards.
As many of the others have commented on here, it is generally difficult
to do.
Pete can also tell us more about the schedule at Desert Magic. What
I'd like to do is have a get together for the MAGIC! members, giving us
a chance to meet each other. Then a program on "Using MAGIC!" that
would cover some of the features of MAGIC! and how to get the most
"bang for the buck" when phoning in. Should be fun!
By the way, I've been going to Joe Stevens' Desert Magic for several
years and have always enjoyed it. Joe (with help from Pete and the
other directors) puts on a great show and it attracts a number of very
nice people. More info. can be had from Stevens Magic Emporium in
Wichita, Kansas. The phone number is 316-683-9582 and the fax number
is 316-686-2442.
Msg #2214 Dated 23:57:36 11-03-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: INTL. MAGIC AWARDS
For those in the Los Angeles area, "The International Magic Awards"
will be shown on Channel 11 on MONDAY, November 5th, beginning at 8
p.m. The show is two hours long. It will be shown again on Channel 11
at 12:30 A.M. SATURDAY morning November 9th (that's 1/2 hour after
midnight Friday) and will still be 2 hours long.
(P.S. - Thanks to Max Maven for letting me interrupt him on-line on
MAGIC! to help find the right times).
Msg #2215 Dated 0:01:38 11-04-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: GENII
The new Genii (Volume 53, Number 12, "June," 1990) just arrived and it
is GREAT! The cover features a graphic image of the Magic Castle made
out of playing cards and dollar bills and done by Andy Wilson. Very
nice.
There is a nice Magicana effect by our own T. A. Waters, MAGIC! is
mentioned in Bagdad, and Tabby Crabb managed to get his name in too.
The feature, on members and past members of the Magic Castle Juniors,
is, I think, an inspired idea and I enjoyed reading it (OK, I wasn't
too crazy about Benjamin Garth's gratuitous use of foul language, but
that is his problem, not Genii's. As he himself wrote, "Anything
mentioned should be an integral part of the presentation. Otherwise,
why mention it?").
Anyway, once again, here's to Genii!
Msg #2216 Dated 0:50:35 11-04-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: HOW TO READ MESSAGES
Thanks to the articles about MAGIC! that appeared in several
publications, we have a lot of new users. Here is a tip on how to
read messages quickly and easily.
>From the Main Menu:
Type R;* and press That's the letter R followed by a
the ENTER key. semi-colon (;) followed by an
asterisk (*). Then press the
ENTER key. You will immediately
see the first new message after the last message you read the
last time you were on MAGIC! After each message you will be
presented with a menu. You can use this menu to Reply to a
message. If you just want to go on to the next message,
just press the ENTER key. Messages will be presented in
SUBJECT order. That means that you will see all of the messages
that have the same subject, followed by all of the messages on
the next subject, etc.
There are several other ways to read and locate messages on MAGIC!
Since most members tend to use an interactive mode in which they
read and reply to messages we tend to stress R;* as the best way
to do this. But here are some alternatives:
>From the Main Menu:
R;nnn (Where nnn represents an individual message number)
Allows you to read and reply to one message. After
reading that one message a prompt will appear that allows you to insert
another number to read. This is NOT usually recommended since you miss
all of the messages in between the ones you read and, unless you go
back and read them, you will not see them. Your message pointer, the
thing that keeps track of the last message you read, will be updated
when you log off.
R;nnn+ (Where nnn represents an individual message number)
Allows you to read and reply to all messages, in
subject order, starting from the message number you have entered
(note that there is a plus sign [+] following the message number.
This is useful when you want to go back to a certain number to begin
reading or if you haven't been on for a while and want to skip a lot
of messages that are "new" but that you haven't got the opportunity
to read. Once again, your message pointer will be updated to the
last message you read, so, if you don't keep track you will loose
the opportunity to read previous messages.
RC;* RC stands for Read Continuous. This is useful for
or RC;nnn+ "downloading" the current messages into a file for
printing or examining later. The messages will
appear in NUMERICAL order, but you will NOT be offered an opportunity
to reply. Messages will just keep scrolling into your system and you
will need to use a "capture buffer" to retain them. RC;* will start
from the first new message, RC;nnn+ will start from the message number
you have entered. While this is a way to "grab" messages quickly to
read off-line, it tends to discourage replies and often turns the user
into a reader rather than a participant. Your message pointer will be
updated.
Along with these read options, there are some ways to look for
messages. All of them are generally followed with the number of the
message you wish to start at and a plus sign [+].
Q;nnn+ Quick Scan will display the subjects of messages
in numerical order.
S;nnn+ Scan will display the "message headers," the time
and date of the message, the message number, the
name of the person it is from, the name of the
person it is to, and the subject.
Q?;nnn+ The R, Q, or S command, followed by a question mark
S?;nnn+ [?] will allow you to search for a keyword or name
R?;nnn+ in the message header. Since Q only displays the
subject, I believe it will only search for keywords
in the subject, while the others will also allow
a search for the name of the person it is from or
to.
Hope that these "advanced features" allow you to tailor your use of
MAGIC! to the way you would like it.
Msg #2217 Dated 0:59:27 11-04-90 2203 <--> 2219
From: T A WATERS
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
The two introductory card books I'd suggest are Hugard and Braue's
ROYAL ROAD TO CARD MAGIC and Scarne's SCARNE ON CARD TRICKS.
Msg #2218 Dated 2:22:43 11-04-90 2202 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SPLITTING HAIRS, I MEAN C
There is a Killer routine with D# cards that Ken Brooke marketed tht I
use all he time. It is nearly 3 am, I have been shooting pix since 9
am, and can't even rmemeber the name of the trick right now, but next
few days, I owe MAGIC! several items. Will fill you in then. sorry, bu
the Martini's are in charge tonite! YO!
Msg #2219 Dated 2:25:36 11-04-90 2203 <--> 2223
From: PETE BIRO
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Expert Card Technique, Hugard/Braue is a must. Magic Inc. 5082 N.
Lincoln, Chigago, IL 60625 has the BEST INFO. ON KID MAGIC. Write to
Frances Marshall at that address, tell her Pete Biro said to let you
know wht books you need to buy. She is fair and a wonderful person.
You should get a copy of the Linking ring Magazine at any magic shop
and get the address to join the IBM. If you have problems getting the
info. let me know here online and I will get back to you. Good luck.
Msg #2221 Dated 2:44:31 11-04-90 2201 <--> 2222
From: RICHARD HART
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
Yes, a bent coin would be good. Even better, I think would be
something like Paul Harris' Hard-boiled quarter. Come out from
underneath the table with the half in three pieces (a de-rubber'd
folding half. Show the three pieces, stack them, and switch them for
a banded folding half. Have the spectator put his/her finger on them,
and then lift up. Voila, the half melts back together again...
Just a thought...
_richard
Msg #2222 Dated 2:47:55 11-04-90 2210 <--> 2232
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
You're more than welcome! In these days where invisible thread is all
the rage, I like to animate things without the zebras. Keeps the
magicos guessing!
_richard
Msg #2223 Dated 2:50:49 11-04-90 2203 <--> 2229
From: RICHARD HART
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Jonathan,
Welcome to Magic! You're in the best of company here, by the way.
I can recommend several books on card magic, it all depends on how
experienced you are.
For the beginner:
The Royal Road to Card Magic, by Hugard and Braue
Expert Card Technique, by Hugard and Braue
Card Manipulations, by Hugard
More Card Manipulations, by Hugard
The Tarbell Course in Magic, by Harlan Tarbell
The Complete Illustrated Book of Card Magic, by Walter B. Gibson
Card Tricks for Everyone, by Stanyon
For advanced card work:
The Complete Works of Derek Dingle, by Dingle
The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings, by Jennings
Cardmagic, by Richard Kaufman
Card Finesse, by Jon Racherbaumer
Secrets of Bro. John Hamman, by Hamman
and of course, anything by Ed Marlo, Max Maven, Bruce Cervon, and
last but not least, Dai Vernon.
(Gawd, I know I've missed a ton of good work here.....)
As for kid shows... There's much advice I could give you. David Ginn
could probably give you much BETTER advice. I suggest you pick up a
few of his books:
Professional Magic for Children
Kidbiz
Live Kidbiz (including the video)
I could give you many of MY opinions on doing shows for children. If
you're interested, just drop me a note here, and I'll carry on further.
As far as obtaining information on joining the I.B.M., I shall defer
comment, and let our illustrious SYSOP handle that one (hint hint).
Yours in/for magic,
_richard
Msg #2224 Dated 8:35:51 11-04-90 -> 2272
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: WELCOME
Jonathan, I envy you starting out in Magic as it were. I remember
when I was 11 or 12 and beginning to discover conjuring an older
man in Atlanta, Homer Hulse, befriended me and taught me much
until he passed away a couple of years later. At that time, it
was difficult for a kid to meet people like Homer, but you live
in an age where via the modemed computer you can be mentored by
the likes of all the experience here on MAGIC!. Take what these
men say to heart. Their advice is based on years of experience
tempered with the fond memories of being 14 and having that
burning desire to study Magic. The Society of American Magicians
has a youth program complete with its own newsletter. If you'll
write to "Society of Young Magicians, Box 290068, St. Louis, MO
63129. Ask for information and a sample copy of the newsletter.
You can join if you're interested and I think its only around ten
bucks a year. I'd also suggest a subscription to Genii, Box
36038, Los Angeles, CA 90036. Its getting kindof expensive,
though they might send you a sample issue if you write and ask.
Also, Dante Larsen, the editor, is a member here on MAGIC!. Also
a good way to get the books everyone is suggesting is to buy them
used from dealers like Charlie Randall (also on here once a week
or so). Theres plenty to do, and you'll find you've got a lot of
friends on MAGIC!. Tabman
Msg #2225 Dated 8:44:04 11-04-90 2206 <--> 2233
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ARNAUD
David,
Will send you the copy (with some translations) asap.
arnaud.
Msg #2226 Dated 8:44:56 11-04-90 -> 2234
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: USER LIST
David,
Would it be possible to make a userlist of all MAGIC! members available
in the download area???
Arnaud.
Msg #2228 Dated 11:17:30 11-04-90 2067 <-
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CONAN DOYLE
Seriously, if anyone is a devoted Conan Doyle fan, I just received a
catalogue of rare books from a truly world-class collection which are
available and expensive. Will share the info with anyone interested.
Msg #2229 Dated 13:36:25 11-04-90 2217 <--> 2230
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
When I was about your age (yeah, there were still glaciers and
dinosaurs roamed the Earth), John Scarne was my favorite magic author.
I agree with T. A. Waters (and others) that Scarne on Card Tricks is
very good. Hugard and Braue present some very good stuff in both Royal
Road to Card Magic and Expert Card Techniques, but I think they are
harder to read.
Msg #2230 Dated 13:41:03 11-04-90 2223 <--> 2237
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Richard Hart considers me "illustrious"? Oh, well. The address for
the International Brotherhood of Magicians is P. O. Box 89, Dept.
MAGIC!, Bluffton, Ohio 45817. Tell them you got the address on MAGIC!
and that you want an application. Once you receive it, you will need
the signatures of two IBM members. If you don't know two, ask here and
I'm sure someone can help.
Msg #2231 Dated 13:43:49 11-04-90 2220 <--> 2241
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC! MESSAGES
Yes, this has been some weekend for MAGIC! messages. I figured it out
while I was cleaning the message base and we are producing about
300,000 bytes of public and private messages a month! That's about 150
typed pages. Now I can't remember how many typed pages make up one
magazine page, but I suspect that we are close to being a decent sized
monthly publication.
Will look forward to all your contributions once you are back home.
Did you see the new Genii yet? In Bagdad, MAGIC! got mentioned -- with
you as the lead item!
Msg #2232 Dated 13:47:10 11-04-90 2222 <--> 2239
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
I really liked it. I haven't been using a PK, but your 4 coins routine
is enough to make me go get one (which I will keep very far away from
all the magnetic media in this place). Then I'll have to get a steel
slugged half and sharpen up the old chain saw...
Msg #2233 Dated 13:49:31 11-04-90 2225 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: ARNAUD
Thanks for the copy of the Dutch article. I think we were also
mentioned in British and French magic publications, but I haven't seen
the articles. Will have to check on those.
Msg #2234 Dated 13:50:28 11-04-90 2226 <--> 2236
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: USER LIST
Up until now I have been reluctant to put together a user list since
there are people on here who seem to prefer privacy. But I've just
worked out a new idea where we will have a "questionnaire" available,
hopefully soon, which members can choose to answer and which will
automatically add to a file of memberships. We're working on it.
Msg #2236 Dated 14:52:00 11-04-90 2234 <--> 2248
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: USER LIST
Thats a good idea. Eventually this will become global anyway. Maybe we
eventually incorporate the best of other bbs like the one Arnaud is
working on in The Netherlands and be able to up/down load the message
files. This interactive bbs is much better than some sort of live
conference area.
Msg #2237 Dated 14:55:33 11-04-90 2229 <--> 2240
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Scarne's books were among my faves also. I used to give the red
paperback to people who expressed an interest in learning the right way
to do a few tricks.
Msg #2238 Dated 15:58:03 11-04-90 -> 2242
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: BRITISH BBS
I'm going nuts slowly today, but was wondering if anyone knows if there
is a similar Magic bbs in the British Isles going, and if so how to get
in touch. Thats all .... have a couple of questions about Will
Goldstons publishing business that might be answered via ... -tc...
Msg #2239 Dated 21:10:29 11-04-90 2232 <--> 2246
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
I assume the saw is to do the "REAL" coins through the table?
Msg #2240 Dated 21:11:43 11-04-90 2237 <--> 2249
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Learn Magic by Henry Hay was my first "bible". For the advanced the Dai
Vernon Book of Magic has nearly all one needs. I once wanted to have a
competition for magicians and like figure skating had to do preliminary
MANDATORY tricks. (Skaters in free style - which is so popular on the
TV presentations - MUST do the mantadory Figure 8s first to qualify).
My plan was that each contestant had to do the Vernon Cups and Balls
WITHOUT IMPROVEMENTS, the Six Ring Routine, Triumph and one other from
the book, thier choice. Points were awarded on technique ONLY. No
improvements, variations, etc. would be allowed.
Msg #2241 Dated 21:16:28 11-04-90 2231 <--> 2252
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC MESSAGES
Holy Cow. Hey, if you use large type maybe MAGIC! Would be equal to
getting Greater Magic every month. Will do a word cound on Inside
Magic.
Hey, all you out there. What do you think of the articles in Inside
Magic related to stealing ideas, effects, etc. I really go with
Steinmeyer's opinion. Also, Cervon can't really believe his statment
"in his book" TV rights witheld. (Not exact wording as I don't have th
book) would hold up?
The best version was that of Harbin. Before you bought the book you had
to sign a contract agreeing to various terms. I don't know whre my
copyis right now, but one of the things tht Harbin did was GIVE THE
RIGHTS TO PURCHASERS OF THE BOOK. What he didn't want, and I agree with
him, was letting those that didn't pay do the tricks.
The worst was the Zig Zag. I bought the Harbin Book. I had two
illusions built from the book. I own the performing rights. Harbin
actually ALSO tutored me on the tricks. And it burns me when guys have
UNAUTHORIZED versions, by the HUNDREDS.
If ONLY those that paid for the rights had and performed the Zig Zag,
for example, it would be a great trick to have in your repertoire. Had
I not switched careers (I was preparing to go full time) I would have
been really hurt by the unauthorized guys doing magic that I paid for
the rights to getting the free ride. You show up and the customers say
"we already saw that trick 40 times".
I remember when the Zig Zag first hit and the copycats were grinding
them out. One dealer showed me a picture with 20 of them lined up in
his wherehouse!!! Pat Page was here visiting from England driving
aroundwith Mike Caldwell. Pat asked Mike (sounds like set up for a
joke) what the most popular trick in the US was. Mike said (JUST AS A
A TRUCK DROVE PAST THEM WITH ONE IN THE BACK, FULLY VISABLE) the Zig
Zag. Mike had just said Zig Zag as the truck drove past on the freeway.
Msg #2242 Dated 21:25:19 11-04-90 2238 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BRITISH BBS
You should write to Pat Page in London (I will search for his address)
for info on Goldston. Or, better yet, Paul Daniels. I have a FAX nr on
him somewhere. Will post later.
Msg #2243 Dated 21:26:11 11-04-90
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY
Re: SPLITTING CARDS
Here's a BRIEF version of how we used to split cards. First step is to
lightly tap a corner on the table to break the layers. Practice will
give you the finesse on all the following moves. Less is better.
Once you can see the splits looking close at the end, you lay the card
flat on a table top and peel away the easiest layer. Sometimes you get
one layer, sometimes two. Take what you get. You destroy the layer(s)
you peel off. What you keep is the layer(s) left on the table. Because
it stays flat and what you peel rolls up and gets creased.
You want to wind up with 1/3 and 2/3 layers that will be attached to
make either double face or double back. That way you get as close to
the correct thickness as possible.
Some guys roll the layers off with a pencil.
Practice is the key. Sensitive touch, slow, slow, easy does it.
GLUE. This was the key. You can't just use any glue. Lepage Mucilage
was very good, but the best I had was to use Photographic Dry Mounting
Tissue. You can put the pieces together and seal them with an Iron. Use
tracing or thin bond paper between the iron and the card to keep card
from getting burned and or dirty.
What this gave you was card more "brittle" that snapped, like an
original. Some guys used rubber cement to glue them (easy, cheap) but
the cards come out soft, rubbery, NO SNAP. For some tricks this is OK>
The trouble with the Factory Printed cards is you are stuck with the
combinations of faces. Altho this is OK for most tricks. But if you
want special combinations youj have to make them.
Look in the Genii for an ad from Cards By Martin. He is in L.A. and
makes great stuff.
Good luck, let me know how you do.
Msg #2246 Dated 23:49:14 11-04-90 2232 <--> 2247
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
David,
I have a spare PK I could let you use if you'd like. Since we live
so close to each other I don't see why we couldn't meet. Just have to
be careful, though, NEVER carry it in your pocket and stand next to a
cigarette machine. You'll get the shock of your life (and may just
shock the hell out of the ladies, to boot!)
_richard
Msg #2247 Dated 23:52:50 11-04-90 2239 <--> 2250
From: RICHARD HART
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
I was going to try that out on the table in the close-up gallery, but
I fear Milt wouldn't take kindly to me slicing and dicing....
_richard
Msg #2248 Dated 0:22:15 11-05-90 2236 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: USER LIST
OK, I will be working on the user list idea. I like the idea of using
a questionaire approach and updating a file, since that still means
that those who want to add themselves to the list can.
Yes, I think we will be global shortly. I'm rather surprised that we
haven't heard from Japan yet, but we do have a member who is here from
Japan, so maybe he will take the idea back with him. I was hoping to
work with Matt (Jeff Busby knows him) but he has been reluctant to pay
for calls to the US (Strange, since I understand he was doing that to
access CompuServe).
I also like the idea of an interactive system rather than a live
conference. Theoretically, we have the capability (but not necessarily
the $$$) to support a "live conference" here. But I find that it
leaves no record for others to share and that even if we had a fairly
large number of lines dedicated to it, they would all fill up with
"chatters" and the board would be impossible to reach.
Anyway, so far, I like what we have here! I like the folks who call
in, and I like the messages they leave. But, then again, I'm just the
sysop and it is up to y'all to make MAGIC! happen.
Msg #2249 Dated 0:28:12 11-05-90 2237 <--> 2262
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Well, if you come across a spare hardbound copy of "Scarne on Dice,"
I'm looking for one. I also had the "red paperback" sitting on my
shelf and wanted to get the hardbound copy of "Scarne on Card Tricks."
I figured it would look nice with my hardbound copies of "Scarne on
Cards" and "Scarne on Magic Tricks." As a matter of fact, I'd tried to
order the one from Charlie and it was already sold. Anyway, yesterday
I was looking through some books in a corner of my "library" and found
that I already own a copy!
Msg #2250 Dated 0:31:51 11-05-90 2239 <--> 2251
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
Er, actually, I was planning on using the chain saw to cut the half in
half. And if I couldn't find it, I was going to ask to borrow Rudy
Coby's. I take it that you are saying that a more subtle saw would be
appropriate? Perhaps an old saw?
Msg #2251 Dated 0:34:09 11-05-90 2246 <--> 2261
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
Yes, Richard, since you are one of our more "local" users, living
practially up the street from me, I figure it would be nice to get
together. And I'm glad I saw your message! I almost bought a PK
today! But I want to figure out where to keep it first -- too much
magnetic media around here, even in the garage!
Msg #2255 Dated 0:45:09 11-05-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: ECA INC.
A number of people have expressed an interest in what ECA Inc., the
sponsor of this system, does.
ECA Inc. produces documentation and training materials. We usually
do this for large corporations or for corporations that have to
train sales and marketing personnel, technical support personnel,
field personnel, or that have to provide training to customers.
We are particularly expert in the design and development of
computer-based training, that is, training which uses the computer
as an instructional tool. We also have the capability to design and
develop video tapes and interactive laser discs. In addition, we
produce all types of training materials and documentation.
So, if you, or someone you know, is in the market for training or
documentation services, let us know! After all, the more customers
ECA has, the more "goodies" I can request to support MAGIC!
Msg #2257 Dated 5:37:58 11-05-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ARNAUD
Re: ALS IN DC
I got started collecting books and magazines by visiting Al's in DC
but haven't been in there in years. It seems to be easier to fly in
from Holland and take a cab than drive in and try to find a parking
place. I appreciate the info and will give them a call today and get
them to post them. Al's son, "Durbow the magician" might remember me
Its been awhile. Thanks. See ya, ---------
Msg #2258 Dated 6:45:17 11-05-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE
Re: SPLITTING BOOKS
Learn Magic by Henry hay, but my favorite Henry Hay book is
Amateur Magicians handbook. I'll not soon forget the magnitude of
"secrets" contained therein. Reading your message caused me to
check the shelf containing same just to make sure its still
there. Some of my most favorite books were gifts from a kind
grandmother who somehow saw my interest in conjuring as
worthwhile. All the Bruce Elliott books I consider worthwhile to
the "younger" magician. Most favorite of my books is a set of
Hoffmann books handed down from my "playboy" uncle who it seems
was an amateur magician - he spent most of his younger days in
Batista's Cuba hanging out in the casinos doing tricks I guess.
After Cuba he went to Argentina and spent time with the Peron's -
I have much of his correspondence with many Latin American
leaders, though unfortunately conjuring is rarely mentioned. As
far as splitting cards is concerned, I appreciate the info. We
have clients in the studio all week so I'll be in the office and
will give it a try. The pencil idea sounds workable. Seems like I
tried soaking a deck of cards in water for a couple of days and
then peeling them apart. Works pretty good, however, when they
dry they don't look quite right. Would appreciate the British
connection. I'm still trying to find out what the press run on
Okito's Quality Magic was and how many copies he autographed - I
have one autographed copy at present and several of the
unautographed ones and am always on the lookout. Best, --TabMan--
Msg #2259 Dated 6:46:46 11-05-90 -> 2265
From: TABBY CRABB
To: SYSOP
Re: DICED BOOKS
ECA must love you to let you host all of us here on MAGIC!. Many
thanks. I changed my software (PC-Write) to put CR at the end of
lines. Should be ok now. I will try to locate the Scarne Dice
book for you. I don't have a copy myself, but feel certain theres
one out there with your name on it. I was a major Scarne fan
myself when he was in his heyday, even subscribed to his gambling
news letter while it was going, though I lost that part of my
collection when I left Texas. I fancied myself a semi-pro
blackjack player at that time till I learned a man should never
gamble more that he can afford to loose. Noticed in Whaley's
Who's Who that Abracadata is mentioned in the periodical section
and no mention of MAGIC!. I'm sending out to you today his
questionairre so "we" can be included in a future supplement. As
far as cost effective phone time - heres what I do - and you know
I call in often - RC;* to download all messages then hangup and
read and reply off line then back on to send messages up. Maybe a
savings I don't know. Promoting entertainers takes a lot of phone
time anyway - I'll try to break it down this month and let you
know if this saves me anything. Also, AT&T has this reach out
America deal that gives you LD time at around 8 bucks an hour
after 11pm and on weekednds. That might be the way to go. With
proper on line time mgmt it would be easy to keep it to an hour
or so each month and still be an active participant. I just feel
lucky that I don't have Arnaud's ld charges. Kudos to you and ECA
for keeping us on the wire. Best, TC
Msg #2261 Dated 8:41:14 11-05-90 2246 <--> 2287
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
And if it's a big one, don't try to drive a route that goes over
railroad tracks!
Msg #2262 Dated 8:42:56 11-05-90 2249 <--> 2266
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
I thought I was the only FOOL that bought stuff, got home and found I
alraedy had the same.
Conversely, I was looking for a really rare book for years. One day,
while upstairs having lunch with Jay Marshall in his kitchen I asked
Jay, "Just so I might be able to spot one when I see it, since right
now I don't even know what the Jarrett book looks like, can I see your
copy?" Jay said OK, we went into his "private" library room and right
there on the shelf were TWO COPIES! Being a wonderful fellow, Jay sold
me one of them. It never hurts to ask.
Msg #2265 Dated 8:51:23 11-05-90 2259 <--> 2278
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DICED BOOKS
Tab... good idea using RC;* and downloading. I do similar on Compuserve
with an automated program called TAPCIS. It is too logical to do what
you do and I just am too fuzzy brained, I guess, to think straight.
Whatever straight, in this context means? Adios.
Msg #2266 Dated 9:46:59 11-05-90 2203 <--> 2271
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
I am a member of I.B.M. RING 21 and I would like to invite you to one
of our meetings as I have to everyone who is on MAGIC! BBS. If you need
help getting an I.B.M. application you can call the RING 21 Phone line
at (213) 660-2998 and Joe Selph will help you out. Tell him you are
from the MAGIC! BBS and DARRELL MURPHY told you to call. You can also
call me at (818) 892-6219 at home if you need signatures or help. The
directions to our meeting location is in the MAGIC! 13 library under
the name MAG1.ASC (this is an ASCII file) and it explains how to get to
the Wattles Mansion which is our meeting place. We meet every month on
the first Thursday of the month and we have a great time.
Msg #2267 Dated 9:56:34 11-05-90 -> 2269
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: RING 21 UPDATES
Well a few of you from the MAGIC! BBS took me up on my offer to join
RING 21 for a night at "THE HAUNTED WATTLES MANSION" for our November
meeting and we had a great time. We had a Main show and a Close-up Show
with performances by Bob Weiss, Bill Coomer, Will Chandler, Lois
Harmeyer, "The Phantom", Christopher Martin, and others.
Last night on November 4th we had a lecture by BILL COOMER and we
learned some KILLER close-up magic with cards, coins, etc.... Again a
few of the MAGIC! BBS members joined us and I would like to thank them
and invite them to come back anytime. The lecture cost $5 but it was
money well spent!!!!
Msg #2269 Dated 10:49:49 11-05-90 2267 <-
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: RING 21 UPDATES
I'll second that, Darrell.
The lecture by Bill was indeed worthwhile.
It was also great fun AFTER the lecture to sit back and watch Bill and
Leo Behnke spar with a deck of cards, numerous faro shuffles, and some
fun effects!
Msg #2270 Dated 14:45:00 11-05-90 -> 2283
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: STABBED!
Here's a very incredible piece of magic.
To give you some background. There are a number of what I
call "unpure" versions of a trick once described as STABBED IN
THE PACK. The effect is simple. A card is chosen, lost in the
deck. The deck is placed on the table and an indifferent card is
tossed toward the deck and sticks into the side of the deck.
Without any adjustments -- the best way is to let the spectator
handle the cards at this point -- it is discovered that the card
has gone into the deck ALONGSIDE THE FREELY CHOSEN CARD.
There are a number of ways to do this. Most do not allow the
spectator to handle the cards at the revelation.
MY PERSONAL METHOD DOES.
The best scene I ever did this one at was in New Jersey, in
a board room with the president of a major corporation. We were
submitting a proposal to the company, everyone was somewhat bored
with things, the president of the company (who I know personally)
said, "Lets break for awhile... and hey, Pete, can you do some
magic for us?"
I didn't have any props but I said, "If you have a deck of
cards I can do something." Typical reaction, the pres buzzes
someone on the intercom asking for "some" playing cards.
In a minute in comes someone with a dozen pack carton of new
decks, complete, of course, with the company logo! Luckily with
white borders!
So, after doing a number of items from my repertoire, the
pres says, "Which trick in the whole world is the best, or the
hardest to do?" To which I reply, the same trick is the best and
the hardest. Unfortunately I can't do it, but let me show you
what it would look like if I could do it.
Here's what I did. I let him shuffle the cards. The Jokers
were set aside from before.
I then told him to place the cards on the table. Cut the
deck anywhere, look at the card he cut to, replace the cut and
cut the deck two times.
I then said, "Now if I could do it, this is what would
happen. I would pick up this Joker, fling it at the deck (I did
this) and it would stick itself into the side of the deck (the
card I tossed at the deck--it bounced off and into the deck)
right next to your card!"
He said, "I don't believe that is possible." I replied with,
"I know, it is possible, but I can't do it. But, wait, if I could
do it, tell me what was the card you took?" He named it. I said,
"Lets see what happened, take a look."
HONEST THIS REALLY HAPPENED. He flipped the cards above the
Joker over, face up on the table and HIS SELECTED CARD WAS THERE.
I HAD DONE THE TRICK.
Honest, you have to believe me on this. THERE IS NO METHOD.
YOU JUST DO IT.
How? Well, the easiest way is as follows.
First it is really hard to throw the card into the deck. So
what you do is to place the deck about 4-to-6 inches away from
the edge of the table, just a little to your right. You then take
the Joker, face up and give it a bend lengthwise, just the
opposite type of bend you would give a card for the 3 Card Monte.
You lay the card at the edge of the table with about 1/2-inch
overlapping so that you can FLICK the card toward the deck with
your right middle finger (off the thumb).
First thing you practice this until you can consistently
flick the card at and INTO the deck.
Over time you will develop an ability to get the card to go
into the deck at nearly the same place every time.
So, you ask someone to cut the cards and look at the card.
If (BY ESTIMATION) they cut to YOUR spot, just have them replace
cards and square up. Go for it.
If they are WAY OFF, take the cards and cut them estimating
the position you think the card is and get it to YOUR spot.
You can give yourself an out by using a 3 spot and telling
them you can get the card within 3 of the location. But that is
the sissy way.
JUST GO FOR IT. When you miss, you just say, well I told you
it was impossible and go on to a real strong effect out of your
repertiore and they will soon forget your miss.
BUT WHEN YOU HIT!!!!! AND BELIEVE ME, I HIT MAYBE 70-
PERCENT ON THIS and you have a miracle, a reputation maker.
Msg #2271 Dated 15:11:47 11-05-90 2223 <--> 2273
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Dear Richard,
Thanks for all the advice on books on card magic. I'm just writing to
say that if you can, I'd be interested in hearing your advice about
kid's parties. If you get a chance, drop me a "note".
thanks. ---Jonathan Kaufthal
Msg #2272 Dated 15:15:53 11-05-90 2224 <-
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WELCOME
dear tabby,
Just writing to say thanks for the advice. By the way, I'm already a
member of the Society of American Magicians (you can join already when
you're 14). I will also probably try to get a free issue of Genii.
Thanks for your help.
------ Jonathan Kaufthal
Msg #2273 Dated 15:22:25 11-05-90 2266 <--> 2274
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Dear Darrel,
Thanks a lot for the phone number and the invitation. Although I'd love
to come, I'm not so sure my dad would be crazy about letting me fly
down to california once a month. I guess I should have mentioned that
I live in New York. Thank you though, and I'll give Joe Selph a call if
I have any problems.
--- Jonathan
Msg #2274 Dated 15:31:03 11-05-90 2219 <--> 2280
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Dear Pete,
Thank you for the reccommendations, the Magic store info, & the advice
on th IBM. Thanks for all your help.
--- Jonathan
Msg #2275 Dated 15:45:29 11-05-90 -> 2284
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: ALL
Re: NEED ANSWERS REPLIES
Just wanted to thank everyone who responded. Thanks for all your help.
---- Jonathan
Msg #2276 Dated 16:34:35 11-05-90
From: BARRY WEISS
To: ALL
Re: EVENTS IN SOUTH FLORIDA
Does any one know what magic events will be taking place in South
Florida? Most of the time when they appear in Magic Manuscript they
are history. Anything south of West Palm Beach is within traveling
distance for me. Thanks. -- BW
Msg #2278 Dated 16:56:59 11-05-90 2259 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DICED BOOKS
Thanks for the Whaley Who's Who form. MAGIC! is new enough that I
don't think it has appeared in books yet. Your plan for low cost
access is a good one. The only reason we don't push RC;* too much is
that there are some here who would NEVER join in the conversations if
they got in the habit of "downloading" messages. Of course, with you,
Pete, Arnaud, etc., there isn't a problem. I'm putting together some
info on low cost ways to access MAGIC! and am just waiting for some
feedback from some users of some systems to complete the info. Will
put in on-line as soon as the report is together.
Msg #2280 Dated 17:02:43 11-05-90 2262 <--> 2291
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
I guess the best all time collector of things in general was William
Randolph Hearst. I've heard that he once demanded that his staff track
down a very expensive piece of art, only to find that it was in his
warehouse.
I've done it with books, records, CD's, etc. On the CD's at least, I
now tend to carry a list and to check it before I buy another copy.
Msg #2283 Dated 17:08:18 11-05-90 2270 <--> 2332
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: STABBED!
I've seen Pete do this one and it is awesome!
Msg #2284 Dated 17:08:49 11-05-90 2275 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS REPLIES
If you send a personal message to Dante Larsen with your name and
address and a request for a copy of Genii I believe he will send you a
sample copy (free). He does that for MAGIC! members.
Msg #2285 Dated 17:15:14 11-05-90 2241 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC MESSAGES
There are two messages (#2231 & #2241) that may have gotten
"overlooked" in your reading (they were originally marked "personal" by
mistake and have been changed to public).
If you are reading this message, and haven't seen those two, there is
an easy way to see them... At the end of this message:
o Type B for Back to see message #2241.
o At the end of that message, type B for Back to see
message #2231.
o At the end of that message, just press the ENTER key
to return to this message and go right on reading!
Msg #2287 Dated 17:51:05 11-05-90 2198 <--> 2297
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
Sounds like a great routine. Have you tried moving the half half with
the PK to another position on the table? If you went forward or back in
line with the coin to a "softer" spot on the table, the coin should not
expose itself.
Msg #2288 Dated 19:28:53 11-05-90 2071 <--> 2303
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NEW SHOP
No, the comedy club is currently closed (for about the past three
years anyway!!) but my wife and I are also trying to work out plans to
open it also.. Tough work, the last people left it in quite a
shambles.. Currently we are using the space for magic club meetings
and in the near future we will be getting our ring charter so we can be
part of the I.B.M... If anyone comes in and mentions this bbs we will
give you a 10% discount on anything you buy, and special orders are
accepted and usually recieved in about 3 days..
Ken
Msg #2289 Dated 19:43:56 11-05-90 2163 <--> 2290
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
I happen to carry a stock of those verry cards.. Yes they are made by
bicycle and can be obtained through any magic dealer willing to order
them.. do you need a entire deck or just a couple of cards??
Ken
Msg #2290 Dated 19:46:02 11-05-90 2167 <--> 2294
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Last time I tried to split cards I soaked them in cold water
overnight, but splitting them was still a pain......
Msg #2291 Dated 19:52:57 11-05-90 2203 <--> 2296
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Best book is "the royal road to card magic"
tips, don't work to far beyond your audiences attention span OR ability
to understand.. Remember kids still have a lot to learn about some
things being impossible..
to find the I.B.M. write to them in Blufton Ohio, they are on main
street but the exact address escapes me (try information for the
phone then call them)
Msg #2294 Dated 21:33:56 11-05-90 2289 <--> 2295
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
I wouldn't mind an entire deck if the cost isn't prohibitive. A deck of
double backs too. Do you have the combo decks with an assortment. Maybe
a couple of those decks like that.
Msg #2295 Dated 21:35:44 11-05-90 2290 <--> 2307
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
I tried today and couldn't get the corner tap happening. Then when I
got a corner started couldn't get it to tear right. Would be nice to
learn, but what I'm interested in doing right now is the "Haunted Hill"
effect from Ben Harris new book...Mad Fax.... thats what got me started
on this double facer business. There are several really great effects
using faked cards like this that I know I could have a lot of fun with
them.
Msg #2296 Dated 22:30:02 11-05-90 2291 <--> 2308
From: DENNIS DEBONDT
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
The I.B.M. address is:
I.B.M.
Headquarters Office
International Executive Secretary
Marilyn S. Edwards
103 North Main Street
Box 89
Bluffton, Ohio 45817
If you drop them a line you will get materials for joining very fast.
As for a phone # in your area...look in the yellow pages under Magic/
Magicians, give some one a call and ask, I'm sure you'll find somebody
to help out. Good luck.
Msg #2297 Dated 23:09:20 11-05-90 2261 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHILE ON THE TOPIC OF PK
Railroad tracks? I sure as heck WON'T.
... well, at least not again, that is...
_richard
Msg #2302 Dated 0:53:07 11-06-90 -> 2319
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: GENII
leave your address and I'll get you a Genii. ONLY because your a MAGIC!
member mind you. Also, you may want to write to Supreme Magic, They
just started a new mini Mag called Allakazam dedicated strictly to the
kidshow magician. Volume 1 #2 is just out. (Hear that collectors, Vol1
#1 is still available) about 26 pages with only ONE page of
advertising. Allakazam, Supreme Magic Co ltd, Supreme House, Bideford,
Devon, EX39 2AN, England..........................................
Msg #2303 Dated 1:03:04 11-06-90 2288 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: NEW SHOP
Hope to be at the "Grand Opening" sometime on Sunday. Plan to
bring my 2-year old magician, so if you have any thoughts on
effects that he can do, you might have 'em ready (he does a good
coin vanish into a box and is working on color changing silks).
Thanks for your 10% off for MAGIC! members offer! To make it
easier, here's a coupon that everyone can rip off their monitors:
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
: :
: The BEARER of this coupon is a member of MAGIC!, the :
: electronic communications system for magicians :
: :
: and is entitled to 10% off on all purchases at :
: Ken Hensley's Magic shop in Claremont :
: :
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
Sure hope that most folks have VGA monitors so the coupon will be
easy to read!
Msg #2304 Dated 2:16:36 11-06-90 -> 2309
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: ALL
Re: BUSINESS CARDS
Hoi! Long time no type. Hope you are all well...it seems the MAGIC!
section is still active.
Does anyone know where I can order specially printed cards? My idea is
to have business card faces on aviator backs, then use the business
card in a three card monte routine, allowing the spectator/client to
keep it when I'm done. (A variation of Color Monte).
Also, I'm just starting a Magical Clown business...any thoughts/aid?
Thanks,
Dave Magnenat
Msg #2307 Dated 8:40:06 11-06-90 2295 <--> 2333
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
I do a fabulous effect with double facers that I bought from Ken Brooke
years ago. It is done "in the spectator's hands" and involves cutting
a card into four pieces -- the see the card in pieces is, say, a 2
Hearts. I have a full sized, not cut, Ace Spades, put it in THEIR other
hand. And when they turn it over it is the duce and the pieces in thier
hand change to the ACE! I did this so often, and HATED bridge sized
cards (they came with the trick -- and POKER size had not existed,
unless you split them -- which I did, but to waste a card each time was
a pain). THEN ONE DAY I FOUND A GUY THAT HAD PRINTED DOUBLE FACERS. I
BOUGHT ABOUT 200 CARDS and was in heaven! Still use 'em. Now that
Bicycle made some it is cheap and easy to get. The only problem is that
if you need a particular combo of cards you might not get them from the
dealer version. Being a dealer item, the trick I do must remain off
line, sorry... if I could remember the name I would post it. I do know
that Joe Stevens sells the line and you could describe the effect and
get it from him. If you buy the trick, let me know and I will send yoiu
the subtle bits I developed over years of doing it.
Msg #2308 Dated 8:45:16 11-06-90 2296 <--> 2316
From: PETE BIRO
To: DENNIS DEBONDT (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
If you register for the IBM Convention (NEARLY SOLD OUT ALREADY) for
Baltimore there is a price that includes membership. See Linking Ring
for registration address. Altho the Bluffton address will get it to the
right persons.
Msg #2309 Dated 8:47:08 11-06-90 2304 <--> 2317
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVE MAGNENAT (X)
Re: BUSINESS CARDS
Be different, use a Yellow Nose. I have seen ads for specially printed
cards in magazines, like Genii and Linking Ring in the past, you might
call Haines House of Cards they would know. I know you can even buy
full decks with your own back design/logo, etc.
Msg #2312 Dated 10:46:32 11-06-90
From: PETE BIRO
To: OUTJOGGED A BIT
Re: CARD CONTROL
Here's a simple card control I use all the time.
Card selected. Fan cards for return. Thumb, as opposed to
pressure fan is best.
Hold fanned cards, in left hand, tight. Take card back (this
way you don't miss) and insert it into the middle of the fan,
leaving about 1-inch protruding. Say, "The card goes back, here
somewhere near the middle of the deck."
THE ACTION.
Right hand, palm open, comes from front and apparently
whacks the card the rest of the way into the deck. It hits it but
don't push it all the way in, let it protrude about 1/2-inch.
Immediately move right hand to left to CLOSE the fan.
This brings the front of deck to rear with the selected card
outjogged a bit.
A nice DECEPTIVE touch is to immediately grab the deck with
the right hand along the right long edge and tap the cards onto
the table by their LEFT long edge.
It looks like you are squaring the deck. You are, but the
short way. The outjogged card stays unmoved.
Bring deck to left hand Mechanic's Grip, square up keeping a
break EITHER above or below the selected card as required for
what you do for a finish.
You can use this TWICE for my 50 Card Vanish effect. You
just have to cut the first selection to the bottom, repeat
handling with second card cutting it to the top, without
disturbing the bottom card.
Msg #2314 Dated 12:36:50 11-06-90 -> 2320
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: CONTEST!
We are planning a chance for MAGIC! members to get together and meet
each other at the Desert Magic Seminar and at the Baltimore IBM. Also
in the planning stages for each of these is a brief presentation on
"Staying In Touch With MAGIC!." We'll be putting together some ideas
on how the different functions work and how to get the most out of
MAGIC!
Now for the contest! We'd like to have some buttons for MAGIC! members
at these events. That way we can all recognize each other. But what
should the buttons say? Let's see... there's "I belong to MAGIC!" and
"I use MAGIC!" But, with all the creative minds in this group, someone
should have the "winning" idea. To submit your idea, just type R
for Reply at the end of this message (and press the ENTER key).
The "contest" will end at 12:01 a.m. on November 17th, and all the
usual stuff about "duplicate entries, we reserve the right to edit or
disregard your entries, and suggestions become the property of" that
you've seen on any other contest apply. Let's hear from you!
Msg #2316 Dated 13:19:18 11-06-90 2273 <--> 2321
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Sorry I guess I should have asked where you lived. I just assumed you
were in California but this BBS is growing. My offer still stands
however if you need signatures, help, etc... Let me know!!!!
Msg #2317 Dated 13:36:46 11-06-90 2304 <--> 2330
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVE MAGNENAT (X)
Re: BUSINESS CARDS
The Business Card climax is a GREAT IDEA Dave.
Msg #2319 Dated 16:07:12 11-06-90 2302 <-
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: GENII
My adress is:
Jonathan Kaufthal
5 Alderbrook Road
Riverdale, NY 10471
Thank you, I look forward to recieving it ---JK
Msg #2320 Dated 16:10:32 11-06-90 2314 <--> 2324
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONTEST!
As Magic Manuscript wrote, "Meet me on Magic!"
or maybe "Proud to be a Magic!ian"
---JK
Msg #2321 Dated 16:13:02 11-06-90 2316 <-
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: NEED ANSWERS AND ADVICE
Thanks anyway for the offer. I don't need signatures as of yet, but
when I do, I'll get in touch (or type) with you ----JK
Msg #2322 Dated 16:34:17 11-06-90 -> 2325
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: ALL
Re: CARD TRICK BOOK
Surprizingly enough, neither Hank Lee's nor Tannen's carry the book
"Scarne on Card Tricks". Anybody know where I can get it?
Msg #2324 Dated 16:55:31 11-06-90 2314 <--> 2327
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONTEST!
I hope I don't winn, but what about something like "I'm Wired!
MAGIC!
or
something like that???
Msg #2325 Dated 16:57:07 11-06-90 2322 <--> 2336
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: CARD TRICK BOOK
I've got a beat up old copy I'll send you if you write me and send me
your address - or better yet just let me know here on MAGIC! and I'll
be happy to send it to you. Let me know!!!tabman
Msg #2327 Dated 17:04:43 11-06-90 2324 <--> 2331
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CONTEST!
Might mis-read as "I'm Weird!" Could use the ! as an upside down i,
example: Magic!an
Msg #2330 Dated 17:20:08 11-06-90 2304 <--> 2335
From: CHARLIE GLISSON
To: DAVE MAGNENAT (X)
Re: BUSINESS CARDS
Dave: Yep, just saw an ad for the kind of business card you're
looking for. Try FUN Incorporated, 2100 N Major Avenue,
Chicago, IL 60639. Call 312-745-3837 or contact Hank Moorehouse at
616-483-7014. Stan Lee's excellent monthly "Inside Magic" has an
ad in the November issue. By the way, if you're calling long
distance ( and who doesn't?) use AT&T- though I'm a part-time pro
magician, they're the ones who apy me. Day job, you know!
Good luck!
Glisson the Magician
Msg #2331 Dated 17:25:28 11-06-90 2314 <--> 2398
From: CHARLIE GLISSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONTEST!
David: How about a color-coded badge using a lot of multicolored dots?
The dots represent something each person has in common with another
person. Finding out the common bond serves as a great icebrteaker
make that icebreaker. Example- closeup conniseurs could be coded blue.
People who have attended at least 1 national convention might be coded
green. You see , each color serves as a conversation starter to
discover why some people are given blue dots, some have green etc.
Best regards!
Charlie
Msg #2332 Dated 17:41:51 11-06-90 2270 <--> 2337
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: STABBED!
FYI: Background on the "Stabbed In The Pack" effect: although there are
of course many effects wherein a card is stabbed into the side of a
pack next to a previously selected card, the bounce-off-the-table idea
is Harry Lorayne's. In the 1960's Johnny Benzais saw Lorayne's trick,
worked out a method, and published it in the _New Jinx_. Subsequently,
Lorayne published his actual method in the same magazine, then later in
one of his books.
Msg #2333 Dated 17:46:04 11-06-90 2307 <--> 2338
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
The trick is Roy Johnson's "Versa Plus"
Msg #2335 Dated 17:48:24 11-06-90 2309 <--> 2464
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BUSINESS CARDS
Contact Fun, Incorporated in Chicago.
Msg #2336 Dated 17:50:11 11-06-90 2322 <--> 2374
From: MAX MAVEN
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: CARD TRICK BOOK
Not surprising. A)The book was published by a mainstream house, not a
magic press, and B)it's out of print.
Msg #2337 Dated 17:53:48 11-06-90 2332 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: STABBED!
Thanks, Max. I know there was a version called "Will the real stabbed
in the pack stand up." There is also a simple version with the selected
card on the bottom and you use a slip cut. NOT SO GOOD. I think Benzais
and/or Persi had some additional work. Mine is estimation and luck.
I have heard someone, can't recall who, that had a key card, like a
little "ramp" that helped get the card in next to select? Do you know
that one?
Msg #2338 Dated 17:55:59 11-06-90 2333 <--> 2535
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: DOUBLE FACERS
Gad, what a mind. Mine is gone. Memory glands have disappeared. Anybody
that gets Versa Plus will have a killer. The problem with Ken Brooke's
magic was the stuff was great, but the names did not relate to the
trick. Which if you have a BBS like MAGIC! and guys like Maven on line,
all your questions will be answered.
Msg #2343 Dated 20:15:11 11-06-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: WEATHER WARNING
Due to high winds, power and telephone outages have been reported
around the Los Angeles area this evening (Tuesday, November 6th). For
your own convenience you may wish to avoid large file downloads tonite.
Msg #2344 Dated 21:04:18 11-06-90 -> 2351
From: RICHARD HART
To: ALL MAGIC BOOKWORMS
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
Recently, while rummaging around the local used-book stores, I happened
to come across (and purchase) a paperback copy of Robert Houdin's
"Card Sharpers, Their Tricks Exposed or The Art of Always Winning"
published by Frederick J. Drake & Co., Chicago. There is no publishing
date, only a 1902 copyright. (Translation by William J. Hilliar)
The question is, how valuable IS this tome?
Max, Pete, any i2eas?
Wondering if I was the robber, or the robbee...
_richard
Msg #2345 Dated 21:16:27 11-06-90 -> 2378
From: RICHARD HART
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
First, congrats on winning your International Magic award, a most
deserved honor. Second, I'm sitting here watching the tv news coverage
of the fire at Universal Studios the day after watching Universal's
magic awards show. Somehow I kept hoping I'd see the producers of that
show staked out in the midst of all the embers... Don't get me wrong,
I love magic, but like Mad-dog Miller with his fangs in the fetlock of
an over-used patter line, or Richard Kaufman flaming on who stole what
from whom, I get my corner crimped when I see the beauty of our craft
destroyed by shoddy production. I was embarassed. The production
stank like week-old bunny-doo, and the magic, unfortunately, suffered.
Ah, but I ramble. I apologize.
What I really wanted to ask you was if you know if anyone makes
double-exposed Polaroid film packs with "spirits" on them as opposed to
the marketed, uh, Pola-card? Pola-card (or some such name) is where
the picture of the spectator develops with a "ghostly" image of the
chosen card on it. I'd like to heighten my presentation of Telekinetic
Timber by taking a photo of the spectator and falling block of wood
showing some sort of spirit materialization around the block.
I thought I'd ask first before going to the time and expense of
producing double-x film packs for my personal use.
I'd appreciate any help you could give.
_richard
Msg #2346 Dated 22:01:45 11-06-90 -> 2350
From: JON LUCKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: MOUNTEBANKS, FRAUDS & CHA
I'm putting together a presentation on "alternative" medical
services called "Mountebanks, Frauds and Charlatans" for the
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria. In this
presentation, I'd like to cover the continuum of medical con
men/women from the medicine show pitchman to the psychic surgeons
of the Philippines. If you or any other members of MAGIC! know
of any sources of materials from medicine show elixirs to
pictures, films or tapes of con men or quacks, I'd appreciate
your sending a message my way. Also, if anyone knows of sources
for handbills or posters advertising miracle cures of dubious
value, I'd appreciate your letting me know of these sources.
If you have access to Bitnet, you can get a message to me by
sending a note to my account, U52158@UICVM.
All leads will be appreciated.
Thanks
Msg #2349 Dated 0:25:35 11-07-90 -> 2354
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: CONTEST
It looks like we have some great suggestions so far! I'll be putting
them all together. By the way, Jonathan, just for the record, Tannen's
didn't create "Meet Me On Magic!" I did! It was in the info we sent
them. But since I forgot and you remembered, it counts as one of your
entries.
Now let's keep the suggestions coming! Like how about "Take a Byte Out
of MAGIC!"?
Msg #2350 Dated 1:19:01 11-07-90 2346 <--> 2352
From: T A WATERS
To: JON LUCKE (X)
Re: MOUNTEBANKS, FRAUDS & CHA
I trust that in your presentation you will point out that there are
"alternative medical services" that are NOT mountebanks, frauds and
charlatans -- presuming that this is supposed to be an objective
presentation and not a CSICOP sort of thing.
Msg #2351 Dated 7:17:52 11-07-90 2344 <--> 2368
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
I'll give you a dollar for it!
Msg #2352 Dated 7:19:05 11-07-90 2346 <--> 2356
From: PETE BIRO
To: JON LUCKE (X)
Re: MOUNTEBANKS, FRAUDS & CHA
I note in print, recently, that SILVAN, in Rome, Italy, did a
presentation on the video of Fake Filipino Surgery, or to make it fit
Furgery (as in forgery)?
Msg #2354 Dated 7:22:34 11-07-90 2349 <--> 2358
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONTEST
Byte by the MAGIC! bug.
Msg #2355 Dated 7:58:15 11-07-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DFERS
Magic!an. As usual you're on the cutting edge. Thats got to be it.
I wonder what you'll win. I've got Joe Stevens Ken Brooke catalog
and will check there for Versa Plus (thanks Max). I had a crash
tonight on my disk and lost most of the MAGIC! (an) files I'd
downloaded so I can't check back now for cross references but I
signed on around message 500 or so. Iguess I'll have to download
the back message files if I want to look back at anything. My mind
works so slowly that sometimes I've got to think for days about
someone I want to send a reply. Heading up to Rochester to the
CEMK with Howie Thursday. Looking forward to the get together and
a chance to get away for a couple of days also the opportunity to
write it up for MAGIC!. I don't have a laptop yet so will probably
be offline for a few days and let someone else get a word in
edgewise. Howie said he was taking his. If he carries a modem I'll
try to sign on "live" from the venue (chinese restaurant).
Msg #2356 Dated 8:06:50 11-07-90 2350 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JON LUCKE (X)
Re: MOUNTEBANKS, FRAUDS & CHA
I'm glad T. A. said it first, but your message inspired the same
thought here. In addition, it was many of those "Mountebanks, Frauds,
and Charlatans" that gave rise to modern medicine.
Msg #2358 Dated 8:14:55 11-07-90 2354 <--> 2380
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CONTEST
Got it! When the contest closes, I'm going to put up a list of all the
entries.
Meanwhile, to serve as an inspiration, here are a few pure computer
ones that were done by ComputerWorld and Computer Business News:
"Disk Too Shall Pass."
"Floppy now, hard later."
"Ma Bell Runs a Baudy House."
Msg #2359 Dated 9:04:00 11-07-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: LOW COST CALLING
Here's my report on low cost ways to call MAGIC! from within the
the U.S. (I'm still working on ways to do it internationally).
.
For occasional users, AT&T's "Reach Out America" seems to be
a fairly good choice. (It is what I currently use.) Basically,
it offers a discount on long-distance calls placed via AT&T.
There are several different plans. Contact AT&T for info.
.
Competitiveness in the phone business has created a number of
interesting services, and Burt Carpenter, one of our members,
sent me info. on TransCall. Their strong suit at the moment
(they are working on a nationwide plan) is calls within Cali-
fornia. A really interesting aspect of their service is a
reduced rate for "intra-LATA" calls, that is, calls placed
within the 714/213/805/818 area codes. They also offer
some interesting residential 800 number services, voice mail,
and business services. Anyone who is interested can call Burt
at 714-941-3600 or can leave a message for him here on MAGIC!
To avoid commercial clutter, please use "Personal" mail.
.
Now for you "power users"... A couple of you already use PC-
Pursuit. It is a service of Telenet, which, in turn, is owned
by U. S. SprZ¹ Telenet is a DATA ONLY service, not for voice
communications. But they can knock the cost of calling MAGIC!
from virtually anywhere in the U.S. down to about ONE DOLLAR an
hour!
.
There are a few "negatives" that you have to put up with. PC-
Pursuit will only bill to a credit card or direct debit to your
checking account. And the logon process is more complex than
just having your modem dial. But it can be done fairly easily
with a communications program that will run a "script." Here's
one user's comment:
.
"The procedure for calling into the nearest node to your location,
calling out from there to the node nearest to where you want to
connect, and finally calling out from there to the computer at the
other end is a little involved, so a script feature in your tele-
communications package is desirable."
.
Here is a "blurb" on PC Pursuit. The words are Telenet's and no
endorsement on the part of MAGIC! is intended.
.
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.
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service that can save you the cost of long distance data calls. And
you won't sacrifice quality. In fact, PC Pursuit Service provides
clearly superior data transmission, because it routes your call via
the Telenet Public Data Network, known worldwide for its accuracy
and reliability.
.
By placing a local call to the Telenet network from nearly 18,000
U.S. cities and towns, you can access a wealth of online resources
in 34 of America's largest business and information hubs. Effective
July 1, 1989, for just $30/month, you can make 30 hours of data
connections weeknights (from 6 pm to 7 am) and all day weekends and
Telenet holidays. The rate above the 30 hours is $3.00 per hour.
If you sign up for our family membership, you will have 60 hours of
weeknight and weekend usage for $50 and $3.00 for every non-prime
hour over 60. You can also use PC Pursuit during the day from 7 am
to 6 pm for $10.50 per hour and that is less than half the cost of
standard long distance dialing or WATS.
.
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Discover, VISA, American Express or checking account. There is a
one-time $30 signup fee. Sign up today - and SAVE on your long
distance PC communications!
.
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.
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.
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Msg #2362 Dated 15:06:47 11-07-90
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BULLET CATCHING
Regarding Ben Robinson's presentation of the bullet catching. He
presented the effect in the parking lot of the Inn where we were
staying. He had a local marksman, policeman, and ambulance on hand.
There was also TV and newspaper press covering the event. Before
starting, Ben gave a short speech about bullet catching. Afterwards he
had the policeman select 2 bullets from a carton the policeman had
bought at a local store. The bullets were marked and placed in a wine
glass (as best as I could "observe", Ben never touched either of the
bullets). The marksman then took one of the bullets and fired it at a
plate sitting against a couple of bales of hay to prove the rifle
worked. Then Ben took his placed about 50 feet from the marksman and
had the marksman load the rifle. After a few "nervous" seconds of
psyching himself up, Ben dropped his hand and the marksman fired. Ben
fell and laid motionless on the ground for a few seconds. About the
time the policeman ran over to him, Ben started to move around. When
Ben got up, he spit out the bullet onto a plate (again, as best as I
could "observe", Ben never placed his hands never his mouth). The
marks were then verified and the crowd applauded. Ben then gave a few
more remarks.
Overall, I think the presentation was excellent. This is an effect
that needs lots of showmanship. At the same time, it can easily be
overdone. Ben seemed to hit just the right mixture. The only other
time I saw the bullet catch, the performer, a big name and deservedly
so, acted as though this was the 12th time today and lets get this over
with so I can go home.
The bullet catch is an interesting effect. It's something I would
never do no matter how fail safe you made it. There's always some nut
who would want to conduct his own test -- here catch this one! I live
in Texas, I KNOW it would happen here. And, of course, 12 have
died....
Charlie
Msg #2363 Dated 15:07:37 11-07-90
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: ALL
Re: CORIN SWITCH
Regarding the Corin card changing, it is described in the May 1972
issue of Genii. Both Eugene Burger and Ed Marlo perform something
similar. Performed correctly, it looks fantastic.
Charlie
Msg #2364 Dated 15:41:03 11-07-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: CATCHING BULLETS
Thanks for laying it out for me. What you described is
Theo Annemanns presentation almost to the letter. Annemann used
Orville Meyer's method which was outlined in an early issue of
Genii. It is very dangerous this way. Whether BR uses this method
I don't know, but it sure sounds like it. The method I'm most
interested in is from Hoffmann's More Magic and is much safer in
the end but requires more finger work up front. If you can use
your own marksperson this is quite safe as long as you are far
enough away from the muzzle of the percussion cap pistol. I
enjoyed 12 Have Died having read it a couple of times. This
effect sparked interest in having my library enlarged because I
began finding books and magazines that touched on the Bullet
Catch - Ponsin on Conjuring for example.
Looking forward to receiving your new book list. Best
wishes.....TC.............
Msg #2365 Dated 15:42:00 11-07-90 -> 2383
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: VIDEO EXCHANGE
Your tape came in today. I'll be away for a couple or three days and
will get on it when I get back. Should have it in the mail by next
Tuesday......tc.......
Msg #2368 Dated 16:17:46 11-07-90 2351 <--> 2381
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
Don't get ripped off with Biro's dollar offer, Richard.
I'll give you TWO dollars!!!
Msg #2374 Dated 17:42:32 11-07-90 2325 <--> 2446
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CARD TRICK BOOK
Thank you very much for your offer. My address is:
5 Alderbrook Road
Riverdale, NY 10471
THANKS AGAIN --JK
Msg #2375 Dated 17:45:17 11-07-90 -> 2385
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: SYSOP
Re: COMMENTS
re:contest
Maybe "818-896-7450 Means Magic!" (That should get people
wondering)
Or even simply
Dial "M" for Magic! ----JK
Msg #2376 Dated 17:48:00 11-07-90
From: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL
To: ALL
Re: NONAME
I just wanted to know people's opinions:
--Do you think it's important to have a "Stage Name"?
--If yes, (or even no) any suggestions
(Amazing Jonathan is taken already)
Msg #2378 Dated 18:02:32 11-07-90 2345 <--> 2393
From: MAX MAVEN
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
Off the top of my head, I believe there is a write-up in "Sensational
Mentalism, Volume Four" published by Micky Hades mid-1970's, which
explains some do-it-yourself preparation.
Msg #2380 Dated 18:16:05 11-07-90 2354 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CONTEST
How about "I do Magic! by modem"?
Msg #2381 Dated 18:17:22 11-07-90 2351 <--> 2382
From: RICHARD HART
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
A whole dollar? Sigh...
Msg #2382 Dated 18:19:00 11-07-90 2368 <--> 2400
From: RICHARD HART
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
Two dollars? I suppose you want me to throw in a used Svengali deck
too?
Msg #2383 Dated 19:04:01 11-07-90 2365 <-
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEO EXCHANGE
Thanks again, I look forward to seeing what everyone has been talking
about.
B.C.
Msg #2385 Dated 20:05:06 11-07-90 2375 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: COMMENTS
WOW! Jonathan! Those are KILLER SUGGESTIONS! (OK, OK, so I like puns
too). I hope you don't mind, I've made the message public.
Msg #2389 Dated 20:41:47 11-07-90
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: CEMK
Back in a couple of days.
Msg #2393 Dated 23:22:51 11-07-90 2345 <--> 2399
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
You said it first, But I second that motion, er - opinion. pee
whew....................................................
Msg #2398 Dated 17:42:42 11-08-90 2314 <--> 2403
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONTEST!
Here are a few ideas. Perhaps the rest of you can expand on these:
Telemagic!
Magic! Network
Have Modem-Will Magic!
Get (up)loaded
on Magic!
CRT Sorcery
WARNING!
MAGIC! IS TERMINAL
Diskcover
MAGIC!
Member of the Board
MAGIC!
At least these should give you food for thought!
Msg #2399 Dated 18:38:55 11-08-90 2393 <--> 2404
From: RICHARD HART
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
I think what made the Magic awards show even worse for me was that I
watched it right after viewing my tape of Copperfield's last TV show.
Talk about the ecstasy and the agony...
This, strangely enough, causes me to wonder why a well-produced
half-hour weekly magic/variety show can't make it on TV in the USA.
Is magic vulnerable to oversaturation? Is there not enough public
interest in our craft? They've done it in England, why not here?
The format would be easy: Host (or this week's guest host) does a
quick effect or two. Break for commercial. Host introduces first act
(close-up?). First act. Break for commercial. Intro 2nd act.
Second act. Break for commercial. Host wraps up.
Can it be so hard? Go figure...
_richard
Msg #2400 Dated 19:29:11 11-08-90 2382 <--> 2412
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
...actually, I was hoping for a NEW Svengali deck!
Msg #2402 Dated 20:15:11 11-08-90
From: JON LUCKE
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ALTERNATIVE MEDICINES
Your comment about my proposed presentation started me
thinking, and yes, you were right. I'm guilty as charged.
However, your comment helped me recognize the cynical and
predictable direction of the presentation I had planned. Your
comment reminded me of the powerful ending of a "man and flight"
presentation at the World's Fair that showed a picture of man
landing on the moon after seeing a sequence of disastrous
attempts at flight.
I'm aware of Cuzzen's (spelling?} use of laughter in healing
and the fact that aspirin works, but no one is really sure why.
Could you give me a couple of leads on where to find more
information of this sort.
Thank you.
Jon
Msg #2403 Dated 22:49:31 11-08-90 2398 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: CONTEST!
Some of those look pretty good, Burt! I'd say we've got a worthy
contestant here. Remember, the contest ends at 12:01 a.m. Pacific Time
on November 17th, so keep those entries coming!
Msg #2404 Dated 22:52:53 11-08-90 2399 <--> 2413
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
Magic on television is popular in several other countries. NHK, for
example, tapes a lot of our magic and shows it in Japan. For a long
time I think that magic was considered useless on television because it
was assumed that the audience would figure that everything was done
with fancy camera work and editing.
But I think that we may be seeing some hopeful, very preliminary
evidence that magic may be making a comeback in a society that is
supersaturated with realism and "science." Good, bad, or indifferent,
there have been several magic specials this year, including the first
ever network special from the Castle. And I think that more new magic
shops have opened than in previous years. As far as I know, the last
"peak" in magic was 40 years ago. Could we be in the ascendancy again?
Msg #2405 Dated 23:25:07 11-08-90
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: CONTEST!
Here are the contest entries that have been received to date.
I think it is quite a list! This is going to be harder to judge
than I expected! (I think I've got 'em all here, but if your
entry isn't on this list, please let me know IMMEDIATELY). The
message number appears after the entrant's name.
.
"Staying In Touch With MAGIC!" - David Lichtman (2314)
"I belong to MAGIC!" - David Lichtman (2314)
"I use MAGIC!" - David Lichtman (2314)
"Meet me on Magic!" - Jonathan Kaufthal (2320)
"Proud to be a Magic!ian" - Jonathan Kaufthal (2320)
"I'm Wired!
MAGIC! - Tabby Crabb (2324)
Magic!an - Pete Biro (2327)
How about a color-coded badge using a lot of multicolored dots?
- Charlie Glisson (2331)
"Ask ME about MAGIC!" - Pete Biro (2326)
"Byte by the MAGIC! bug." - Pete Biro (2354)
"Magic!an" - Jonathan Kaufthal (2372)
"Magic!" - Jonathan Kaufthal (2372)
"PROPERTY OF
Magic!
BBS" - Jonathan Kaufthal (2372)
"818-896-7450 Means Magic!" - Jonathan Kaufthal (2375)
"Dial "M" for Magic!" - Jonathan Kaufthal (2375)
"I do Magic! by modem" - Richard Hart (2380)
"Telemagic!" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
"Magic! Network" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
"Have Modem - Will Magic!" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
"Get (up)loaded
on Magic!" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
"CRT Sorcery" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
" WARNING!
MAGIC! IS TERMINAL" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
"Diskcover
MAGIC!" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
"Member of the Board
MAGIC!" - Burt Carpenter (2398)
Msg #2406 Dated 23:31:00 11-08-90 -> 2407
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: BUBBLE MAGIC
Other than Finn Jon's lecture notes, does anyone know of any books,
articles, or other info on "Bubble Magic" or on effects using bubbles?
Msg #2407 Dated 1:58:57 11-09-90 2406 <--> 2419
From: MAX MAVEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BUBBLE MAGIC
There is an Ormond McGill book which was published by Micky Hades a few
years ago, but it is quite poor.
Msg #2408 Dated 2:00:13 11-09-90 -> 2414
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SINCE YOU ASKED
I've now had a chance to view the International Magic Awards show, and
as you asked for my reaction, here it is. Over all, I was disappointed
with the show. I rather expected it to look better. As with the Magic
Castle special, one particularly unfortunate aspect was that the acts
using music were overdubbed with inferior scores as a cost-saving
measure (although at least here the acts were able to perform with
their own music, as opposed to having to work to no music at all).
There were some good sequences, and a few nice ideas, but not
enough to fill two hours of air-time. Mind you, contrary to the
assumptions of Richard Hart which recently appeared on this BBS, it is
extremely difficult to construct a variety television show.
What I _did_ like about the show was its attitude toward magic and
magicians. Despite its serious flaws, this show had a basic premise
that considered magicians worthy of attention as individual artists.
Consider that at the top of the show the magicians' names were listed
-- an element missing from both the Disney and Castle specials (the
only other multi-performer magic specials of the past few seasons of
American TV).
So, in short, I was not thrilled with the outcome of this show, but
at least it aired, and within its mix there was some decent magic for
the public to experience.
Msg #2409 Dated 5:53:47 11-09-90 -> 2415
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: ALL
Re: INTRO BOOKS
Regarding introductory books, my choice is Amateur Magician's Handbook
by Henry Hay. It was the first really important book I got as a kid.
Although it is a paperback, I still have it and it's still in pretty
good condition considering I've used it about a million times. Another
early book for me was Illustrated Magic by Ottokar Fischer. I remember
two different libraries having copies. I must have checked them out 15
or 20 times total. The Scarne books were also early influences. When
I look at them now, I'm amazed at the amount of really good stuff in
them. And you can usually find them in any bookstore!
Charlie
Msg #2412 Dated 17:41:04 11-09-90 2400 <--> 2434
From: RICHARD HART
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
A NEW Svengali? Hmmm, I don't know about that. Would you settle for
a Svengali deck that has all the duplicate short cards replaced with
indifferent short cards? I'm sure Max or Pete could come up with a few
stunners with it! Whaddaya say?
Msg #2413 Dated 17:45:13 11-09-90 2404 <--> 2420
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
I certainly hope so. Copperfield does well on TV, my co-workers are
still talking about Misled and the sketchpad rising card...
Everyone I've talked to loves magic, and a night at the Magic Castle is
high on the list of favorite places to go... I think we may well be
seeing the rebirth of magic, AND variety...
Msg #2414 Dated 17:53:55 11-09-90 2408 <--> 2416
From: RICHARD HART
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SINCE YOU ASKED
Why is it so hard to construct a variety TV show, Max? Sullivan did
it. Sonny and Cher did it, Arthur Godfrey did it. Hell, even the
Smothers Brothers did it. Carson sports magic/variety acts all the
time. What I see on the stage at the Palace of Mystery is, to me, what
people want. Quality, simplicity, humor. Look at "America's Funniest
Home Videos." Half-hour format, interesting subject matter,
unoffensive host, and audience interaction. Just substitute a few
magic acts for the videos...
I'd really value your comments, Max. Shoot, YOU'RE the "Pro"
here, me, just a wimp. You make the magic, and I keep the magic shops
in business. But one thing for sure, we both love magic.
Respectfully,
_richard
Msg #2415 Dated 18:12:40 11-09-90 2409 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: INTRO BOOKS
Another beginner book that I value, "Magic and Showmanship, a handbook
for conjurors" by Henning Nelms. I think Dover still prints it.
Msg #2416 Dated 20:19:42 11-09-90 2408 <--> 2418
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SINCE YOU ASKED
I agree with you about how an awards show of this type may help the
public attitude. An awards show is a good way to expose the public to
magic and add value to individual performers. It wasn't too many years
ago that the Country Music Awards brought national attention and helped
bring popularity to a form of music that the general public had all but
forgotten. Maybe this type of show will help the public be familiar
with more performers.
Msg #2418 Dated 22:17:30 11-09-90 2408 <--> 2483
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SINCE YOU ASKED
It might be worth a dime to let the network know that we were glad to
have the program to watch. If they get the idea that it was popular
they may be willing to do more, and also to improve the quality of the
presentation.
Encourage friends, family, and other magic computer users to put in
a good word. Its kind of like a political campaign, if they only get
the criticism without the atta-boys they may not consider it a
worthwhile cause.
Any airtime devoted to magic should be encouraged, even if it is not
the best presentation. We all know that "Practice Makes Perfect"!
Msg #2419 Dated 23:54:37 11-09-90 2407 <--> 2452
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: BUBBLE MAGIC
Wow! I don't believe this! You REALLY DO KNOW EVERYTHING! Thanks!
Msg #2420 Dated 0:00:43 11-10-90 2413 <--> 2447
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
I hope so too! I think that the sitcom era has run its course. I
think people are begining to look for "different" on television. We'll
just have to see what happens.
I think Doug Larson has a good point in his message (#2418) -- it is up
to us to help the cause along by encouraging the producers and networks
to show more magic.
Msg #2426 Dated 2:08:21 11-10-90 -> 2451
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: GENII
Dante: The title for the effect is what we discussed, but the Jennings
effect is originally called (I believe) "A Pair of Travellers". "Out
of this World" effects are the ones where the spectator deals cards
supposedly at random and they turn out seperated into red and black. I
could upload the file to MAGIC! if you like. Is the illustration in a
format readable by a bunch of computers? (like GIF?) Dave Magnenat
Msg #2427 Dated 2:08:55 11-10-90 -> 2439
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: ETC.
Richard: ZIP format isn't limited to IBM. There are compatible
Unzippers for Amiga and Macintosh, porbably obtainable from a local
BBS. Dave Magnenat
Msg #2428 Dated 2:44:49 11-10-90
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: CHARLIE GLISSON (X)
Re: THANKS!
Charlie & ALL Thanks for the info ref: business cards. I'm still
waiting for all those bookings to come rolling in..the phone is awfully
quiet. Guess nobody's in the mood to be funny these days. The
newspaper ads don't seem to have worked as well as I'd hoped...I'm
trying fliers next. Dave
Msg #2429 Dated 2:45:27 11-10-90
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: SCARNE/CARDS
John: I got my copy about two weeks ago at B. Dalton books. They can
order Scarne on Card tricks for you if they don't carry it. Dave
Magnenat
Msg #2430 Dated 2:46:34 11-10-90
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: ALL
Re: INTL MAGIC AWARDS
I'm glad I wasn't the only one disappointed by the Int'l Magic Awards.
Good magic, LOUSY production/sound/editing. And why did we have ads
for movies in the middle of the show? Or stuff from Australia (A five
minute monologue by Paul "I used to be on Love Boat" Williams about the
beauty of the Autralian wilderness? Next time, can the producers
please just PAY the hotels and studios and backers with $$$ instead of
airtime?
Other than the production, the magic was nifty, I thought. Not enough
Michael Ammar, and Max kicked touche. I never have figured out how you
mental, er, mentalIST guys do such nifty stuff! Domo!
Dave
Msg #2431 Dated 2:51:31 11-10-90
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: ALL
Re: SAD BUT GOOD
With all the talk about magic on the rise of late, its sad that my only
local magic shop is being forced out of business by the landlord. Even
though I did pick up Jennings and Harris and Cervon at half price, and
bunches of effects at 60 and 70 percent off, It's a sad day in
mudville.
Dave
Msg #2433 Dated 2:54:45 11-10-90 -> 2441
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: ALL
Re: BUTTON CONTEST
Here's my entry
Terminal MAGIC!AN
..
..
P.S. No way I can get to the Desert, so how do I get a button?
Dave Magnenat
Msg #2434 Dated 3:07:55 11-10-90 2412 <--> 2436
From: T A WATERS
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
A long-short deck using indifferent cards instead of force cards has
been around about thirty years; the pair of cards are related in Si
Stebbins fashion, so that the deck can be shuffled riffle-fashion but
can still be used to determine a selection in standard stacked deck
fashion.
Msg #2435 Dated 9:19:08 11-10-90 2085 <-
From: JOE FORTIER
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: LASER PRINTING
>All the local print shops only do laser printing from diskettes in
>the Macintosh format.
Do you have a PostScript driver for your WPP/Publishing package? If
so, the problem is fairly easy to deal with.
1) Print the PostScript file to disk.
2) Get the text to Macintosh format. There are several possibilities
a) Use your modem to send the file to a Macintosh
b) Use your Modem to send the file to a printing service. There
should be several commercial services so equipped in the New Jersey
area (that is where your from??)
c) Get the file to IBM 3.5" format. All the newer Macintosh's will
read that format, with the help of a bundled (free) utility called
"Apple File Exchange".
3) Once you get the text ready to be read it needs to be transmitted to
a printer. There are dozens opf utilites to do this. Your print shop
should at least have the "Font downloader" which will do just fine.
If you don't have a PostScript driver you'll need the driver for the
specific laser printer. You might consider getting the PostScript
driver, as it scales all fonts and allows some really useful as well as
just interesting effects.
Hope this helps
Joe
Msg #2436 Dated 21:36:53 11-10-90 2412 <--> 2443
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
The deck you describe (all the short dupe cards replaced with long
indifferent cards) has been one of my best kept secrets. DARN, its out!
Msg #2439 Dated 1:21:46 11-11-90 2427 <--> 2444
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: ETC.
I think that we have a Mac "unzipper" in the MAGIC! files. To find out
>From the Main Menu...
o Type F for FileSubsystem and press the ENTER key.
o Type L;13 (the letter L followed by a semi-colon [;]
followed by the "MAGIC! number" 13) and press the ENTER
key.
Msg #2441 Dated 1:26:55 11-11-90 2433 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVE MAGNENAT
Re: BUTTON CONTEST
You raised an interesting point in your message. I think that after
Desert Magic we may release figure out a way to release the buttons.
After all, people could wear 'em to Ring meetings, etc., and help pass
the MAGIC! word around. Will think on it.
Msg #2443 Dated 3:12:59 11-11-90 2436 <--> 2478
From: RICHARD HART
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
Yes, I'm afraid your secret's out, Pete. But don't worry, here's one
of mine. Take your Svengali, and replace all the indifferent LONG
cards with indifferent SHORT cards. Next, take all the duplicate short
cards, and replace them with SHORT indifferent cards. Not only will
you be able to continue to work your wonders, but if the deck gets a
little wet and expands, you'll still be able to get it to fit into the
card case...
Msg #2444 Dated 3:15:24 11-11-90 2439 <--> 2456
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ETC.
Thanks for the info David. Now if I only had a Mac... I use (sigh) an
Atari 1040ST (basically for my MIDI stuff) and the only unzipper I
could find, won't work on the zipped files here. Guess I'm doing a
show with my fly open.....
Took some friends to the Castle tonight. Boy, sure was crowded! Thank
Larsen for those impromptu shows in the dungeon...
Msg #2446 Dated 14:09:32 11-11-90 2322 <--> 2465
From: RANDY LUND
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: CARD TRICK BOOK
I have seen some of Scarne's books at John Rollins and Dalton's also
has a fair selection of magic books of this caliber. Another excellent
book on card magic is Basic Card Technique that is available at Abbotts
Magic Manufacturing Co. in Colon Mi.. For $5.00 it is almost a steal.
Where most of Scarne's tricks seem to be counting type tricks or
stacked deck tricks "Basic..." is about card manipulation and Slights.
Randy Lund
Msg #2447 Dated 16:57:16 11-11-90 2399 <--> 2448
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
Thats too simple. It's as if they were looking for a write off. I was
also dissapointed with the Magic Castle special. It would have stood
onn just the magic but they had to go and screw it up. Back to the
awards, I think the Pendragons deserved better for the new illusion. It
was like really starting to get to me. Nothing but a commercial for
]Universal -The Gold Coast whatever, at the expense of some of the best
in the business. rrrrrgh. ................................
Msg #2448 Dated 17:04:13 11-11-90 2413 <-
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: CONGRATS, AND...
True Variety is gonna come back with a vengeance.................
Msg #2451 Dated 17:12:44 11-11-90 2426 <-
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: DAVE MAGNENAT
Re: GENII
I have a gif reader, I'll see if it can record. ...........
Msg #2452 Dated 17:17:04 11-11-90 2406 <--> 2459
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BUBBLE MAGIC
I've seen a book by Tom Noddy called, I believe "Bubble Magic" He does
effects like a square bubble or carousels, etc..............
Msg #2453 Dated 17:18:40 11-11-90
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: JON LUCKE (X)
Re: MEDICINES
Have you checked out The Skeptical Inquirer it comes out 4 times a year
and is a bit costly $6.00 butn it never fails to deliver. I just got
the latest issue and it always has some blurbs about healing. This one
about some Gypsys fined like a couple thousand dollars for bilking a
couple of people out of a HALF MILLION by cracking an egg filled with
slime and charging them to cleanse themselves. or something like that
(it's at the office) $6.00 an issue. Skeptical Inquirer, P.O.Box 229,
Buffalo, NY 14215-0229. eat crystals!..........................
Msg #2456 Dated 19:37:38 11-11-90 2444 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: ETC.
You do MIDI with an Atari? You should treat yourself to an Amiga! My
son, the 2-year old, uses an Amiga for his Yamaha PSS-480.
We should plan these things better! Yes, the Castle was JAMMED on
Saturday night! Is it possible that you caught my act downstairs? The
"Gillotine of Death" was one of my effects, so you'd know if you saw
it. Since I had visitors I only did a short routine.
Msg #2459 Dated 19:50:40 11-11-90 2452 <--> 2469
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: BUBBLE MAGIC
Thanks for the info on Bubble Magic, Dante. Do you think Tom Noddy's
book is in the Castle library?
Msg #2462 Dated 19:54:47 11-11-90 -> 2592
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: AL GOSHMAN
Saw Al Goshman today at the Castle! He says he may try to log on to
MAGIC! sometime during the week. Sure hope so.
Meanwhile, Dai Vernon is still experiencing problems. I think he will
be leaving the Jennings and recouperating in either Long Beach (what
was said) or San Diego (what I think is going to happen).
Msg #2464 Dated 22:30:13 11-11-90 2304 <-
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: DAVE MAGNENAT
Re: BUSINESS CARDS
Dave, any good printer or graphics house will be able to make plates
from cards for your cards but be warned, when I was about to do the
same thing I had to modify the Bicycle back or risk a suit under
copyright infringement.. Also printing two sided is expensive,
Espically if both front and back are in different colors!! Stay away
from places like "Sir Speedy" or "P.I.P" these chain stores can supply
what you are looking for, but at higher prices.. (also be prepared to
pay for metal plates, yet another expense)
Msg #2465 Dated 22:38:07 11-11-90 2322 <-
From: KEN HENSLEY
To: JONATHAN KAUFTHAL (X)
Re: CARD TRICK BOOK
I believe Most magic stores have that book, heck I think the book
store down the street has it..
Msg #2467 Dated 5:54:20 11-12-90 -> 2487
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: FRIENDS
My friends Tom Gaudette and Pat Guida tell me you're a great guy. Your
name came up while we were sitting around at the Inn Event. I've got
a question for you, where is Ice Dice published. Also which of the
effects in Focus do you like best. That Max Maven, how can one guy
come up with so many good things. Maybe that's why there are "two of
'em"!
Charlie
Msg #2469 Dated 7:38:57 11-12-90 2452 <--> 2537
From: PETE BIRO
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: BUBBLE MAGIC
If Noddy has a book... it will be great, as he is the best current
worker doing bubbles. My guess also, there will be some published at
the turn of the Century - if you can find them.
Msg #2475 Dated 9:58:59 11-12-90 -> 2480
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: CEMK
CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE MAGIC KIND!
tabman
Just back from the CEMK (Close Encounters of the Magic
Kind) in Rochester, NY. If names like LOU GALLO, RAY MERTZ, HARRY
HARRISON, MIKE O DOWD, MICHAEL AMMAR, JAY SANKEY, DOC EASON, BILL
MIESEL, DAVID DRAKE, et al interest you, then read on.
I'll skip the details of travel (flew up with HOWIE
SCHWARZMAN in his plane, riding in Howie's trunk after being two
hours late arriving at his house)...just kidding...freezing
because the cargo hatch cover came open at 6,000 feet...flying
over THREE MILE ISLAND nuclear plant...etc..actually he's a fine
pilot but I think he likes to fly through atomic exhaust because
he flew over another one about 15 minutes later....I could go on,
but I won't...you're welcome!
The Thursday night, pre convention lecture, featured the
Bar Magic of none other than DOC EASON. Doc has been working the
bar at John Denver's TEMPLE MAGIC BAR AND RESTAURANT in Aspen for
the last 14 years. In a word, DOC is great. He really works a
crowd, can remember the names of everyone at the bar which really
gets em, and is uproarously funny. As a magician, DOC had to
follow MICHAEL AMMAR's (more on Michael later) lecture, and
killed em with the production of a signed fifty dollar bill in a
lemon held by a spectator. Catch him if you can. He's a real pro
and a nice guy to boot.
KEITH WALKER, RANDY DIMARCO, and JOE RYAN really know
how to stage a meet. Free beer and soda at the bar (Jade Palace
Bar and Restaurant) great meals and much good magic and
conversation. Most of these magicians also attend the 4F at the
Forks so you recognize the caliber....44 magnum at least......
JAY SANKEY's lecture was well received. Jay arrived about
ten minutes before he was to go on (10:30 pm friday) and left
about ten minutes after the lecture. Jay's got a couple of new
effects which will be featured in his new book.....100% SANKEY..
MICHAEL AMMAR. Didn't know how funny and entertaining
Michael was until I attended his lecture. He gives away the real
working of his pet effects and explains all. His lecture notes
are top drawer. Michael introduced MIKE SKINNER's Ultimate Three
Card Monte to the crowd. I can't go into details because it is
available in book form (written by Mike Maxwell for L&L), but the
kicker is a killer. Truly one of the nice guys in magic. LOU
GALLO, inventor of the Gallo Pitch and mentoree of Eddie Fechter,
believes Michael will be the next Dean of American Magicians.
Michael came in a day early and performed the friday night show,
they stayed around to talk magic with everyone and to help anyone
who wanted it....I love this guy.....
CEMK 1990 was dedicated to the memory of LARRY WEST and
friday morning was dedicated him. The magic room featured tiered
seating, great lighting and video. Coffee and pastry before and
after each event...Howie Schwarzman was the only dealer
displaying, however all lecturers had material for sale, as well
as Ray Mertz having his books and effects at a small table in the
corner.....On RAY MERTZ...he, HARRY HARRISON (top trade show
worker) and LOU GALLO kidnapped me saturday night after the last
show and made me go to Zaz's bar in Webster, NY to "do some
magic". Ray was performing behind the bar when a 300 lb, 3 day
drunk, biker chick from hell, grabbed him and demanded that he
turn a five dollar bill into a 500. He told her if he was a real
magician there were a couple of people he'd like to turn into a
rock. After Ray produced a ten pound brass nut from under a
copper bowl, she got very quiet, called a cab and left after the
show...unfortunately she came back about 2am and put a head lock
on Lou and me as we headed over to the PRECURSOR Suite to talk to
ED ECKL, BILL MIESEL, DAVID DRAKE, RON FREDRICK and others...
......CEMK is a sharing experience....the magicians were
open and many effects were swapped....PAUL BOATMAN taught me how
to make a rubber band appear to pass through my thumb...thanks
Paul. Everyone was interested in MAGIC! and I got rid of all my
~rflyers as well as quite a few xeroxs that Howie made up...hope to
meet em all on line............................
Thanks again Howie for inviting me. It was great....Now
if I could just figure out what that green glow is coming from my
left foot........more later......tc..
Msg #2476 Dated 10:47:07 11-12-90
From: SCOTT GOLDSTEIN
To: ALL
Re: PROBLEMS ACCESSING SYSTEM
DEAR SYSOP, SAW THIS BBS ADVERTISED IN GENII MAGAZINE. CALLED TODAY
BUT I AM HAVING TROUBLE ACCESSING THE DATA PLEASE HELP ME OUT. I DO
NOT HKOW KNOW HOW TO LLIST FILES MUCH LESS THATN DOWNLOAD FILES. IA
AM NEW TO THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF COMPUTERING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
Msg #2478 Dated 14:27:32 11-12-90 2412 <--> 2489
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
okay...but ONLY if you glue the trimmed pieces back on those short
cards!!!
Msg #2479 Dated 14:35:26 11-12-90 -> 2490
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC AWARDS
I've sat back and kept my peace...just reading all the comments about
the awards show...but, as someone who earns his living in television,
I have to spout some venom...
Let's get one thing straight...
THE MAGIC AWARDS SHOW WAS ATROCIOUS!!!!
IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST SHOWS I'VE EVER SEEN ASIDE FROM CABLE PUBLIC
ACCESS CRAP.
BLACKSTONE WAS BORING. THE CELEBRITIES WHO WERE OBVIOUSLY THERE FOR
SELF-PROMOTION WERE LAUGHABLE.
THE PRODUCTION ITSELF WAS SLIPSHOD AND AMATEURISH AT BEST.
THE CANNED APPLAUSE SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS DONE BY SOMEBODY WITH A SONY
WALKMAN AND AN ON/OFF SWITCH.
THE RIDICULOUSLY TRANSPARENT COMMERCIALS FOR UNIVERSAL, ETC. WERE
EMBARRASSING.
Who got to speak and who didn't was senseless.
AND THE MORON WHO DECIDED TO GIVE "THE PROFESSOR" DAI VERNON AN AWARD
AND THEN NOT SHOW ANY FOOTAGE TO ALL THE LAY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER
HEARD OF HIM....THE EXECUTIVE IN CHARGE OF THAT DECISION SHOULD HAVE
BEEN RUN OUT OF TOWN ON A RAIL! THEY DIDN'T EVEN SHOW A STILL PHOTO OF
HIM!!!
This kind of "national exposure" sets the cause of magic back by ten to
twenty years...it makes us look like a bunch of amateurs...unable to
adapt to even the low standards of commercial television.
IF YOU THINK THIS KIND OF TRASH WILL HELP TO POPULARIZE MAGIC, YOU'RE
EITHER AN IDIOT OR A FUGITIVE FROM THE BRAILLE INSTITUTE.
WAKE UP, PEOPLE!
This kind of tripe does as much damage to magic as the no-talent
amateur magi who spent twenty dollars at a novelty shop and insists on
inflicting everyone he comes across with his "act".
MAGIC DESERVES MUCH BETTER THAN THIS.
(Now excuse me while I log off and gulp down a few dozen Valium).
Msg #2480 Dated 16:12:34 11-12-90 2475 <--> 2507
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CEMK
Wow! That really sounds like a terrific time! And Tabby deserves
thanks for a great report. So Thanks, Tabman!
P.S. - Flying over a nuclear power plant is not a problem. Before it
makes you sick the solar radiation will kill you.
Msg #2483 Dated 18:04:53 11-12-90 2418 <--> 2496
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: SINCE YOU ASKED
I agree with what Douglas Larson said about writing to the networks.
Does anyone out there have the addresses for the various networks.
After all letter writing campaigns helped get and keep STAR TREK and
other programs on the air!!!
Msg #2487 Dated 20:55:36 11-12-90 2467 <--> 2534
From: JIM SISTI
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: FRIENDS
Wow...it's a small world? Where are you from and how do you know Pat
and Tom? (Tom has to be the number one Marlo devotee in the world!!)
Regarding "Ice Dice," it's a marketed effect. I think it's only
available through Hank Lee's Magic Factory. It comes with two crystal
cubest (hence the name) with no spots and the routine. It's a
mathematical card trick but the math is exceptionally well-hidden in
the presentation. It's definitely worth the five bucks just to check
out the thinking. As I mentioned to Max, my favorite effect in the
book is "Masque," but "Ascention" is a close second. I originally
learned that from Harry Lorayne's "Best of Friends." The review of
"Focus" appears in the new issue of "The Magic Menu." Did Pat or Tom
mention that I publish a magazine for restaurant and bar magicians? It
was nice to hear from you, Charlie. We'll talk again.
Msg #2488 Dated 21:06:17 11-12-90
From: JIM SISTI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DOC EASON
Seems like you had a good time at that convention. As it turns out,
Doc Eason is originally from Connecticut and attended the high school
that's right down the street from me. He's in this neck of the woods
ow because he's planning on spending Thanksgiving with his family in
CT. He's been very helpful in dispensing advice in regard to "The
Magic Menu" and is actually coming back here in the spring as part of
a restaurant/bar magicians convention that we're planning now. In any
event, Doc is going to give me a call over the holidays and we're going
to grab a beer and finally meet in person. Also, your torn & restored
card effect would be very useful to the walk-around performer and we've
decided to run it (probably in the March/April issue). Do you have any
idea whether similar ideas have seen print before? We got into a bit
of a sticky wicket over an ambitious card routine ending that someone
thought up independently, but had seen print in a Jay Sankey book.
Please advise...and thanks again for the routine! We'll send you a
copy. In fact, post your address and I'll send you a January/February
issue, which was just printed this week.
Msg #2489 Dated 21:32:40 11-12-90 2478 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HAVE I GOT ANYTHING HERE?
Ah, sorry, no can do. I took all the trimmed pieces and restored them
into a bunch of blank cards which I use in a 52 card monte effect...
I'm sure Pete or Max will improve on it, and publish their own version
"53 card monte" in an upcoming book, eh?
Anybody looking for a young white dove? Free to deserving home.
Mom and Pop just had another blessed event, and it seems Junior's
getting in the way and Mater and Pater are feather nipping the tyke.
He's in his own condo at the moment and now old enough to learn the
ins and outs of dove harnesses...
Msg #2490 Dated 21:40:55 11-12-90 2479 <--> 2493
From: RICHARD HART
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC AWARDS
Save a couple of those Valium for me, will ya? I want to sit down and
edit out all but the magic, and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to see the
thing again a few more times while undertaking the task.
The things we do for magic, eh?
_richard
Msg #2493 Dated 22:20:12 11-12-90 2479 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC AWARDS
Hold off on the Valium. Enjoyed your review. I had only seen a short
bit of it, but can see what you say rings oh, too true. Thanks for
your insight. What do you do in TV?
Msg #2496 Dated 1:45:06 11-13-90 2483 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: SINCE YOU ASKED
I'm trying to put together a list of various networks, including cable.
In the meantime, here are a couple to get you started...
ABC
77 W. 66th St.
New York, NY 10023
(212) 456-7777
NBC
NBC Audience Services
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
(212) 664-4444
Does anyone have an address for CBS?
A&E
Brooke Johnson, Program Director
Arts & Entertainment
555 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10017
(212) 661-4500
DISNEY
Subscriber Services
The Disney Channel
3800 W. Alameda Ave.
Burbank, Ca. 91505
(818) 569-7897
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