MAGIC! - 12
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Msg #5500 Dated 13:10:45 01-16-91 -> 5543
From: PETE BIRO
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: KAPS
Great Message Jeff. I will (in 3 weeks or less) be living in Walnut
Creek and we HAVE TO GET TOGETHER! Just got a letter from Roger Mycroft
as well. He's in Montana!
Your recollections of the Kaps sessions is great. That is one of my
problems, I con't KEEP those kind of details in this beat up old brain.
I just heard from Koornwinder he has over 100 letters of MINE in his
files that he got from Nellie. Dick IS DOING THE BOOK ON FRED. I hpe to
get iin touch with him soon. Got to run... be in touch.
Msg #5501 Dated 13:12:53 01-16-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STACK O' QUARTERS
I love the stack of coins. I have quarters, halves and silver dollars
so can go any route.
Msg #5502 Dated 13:12:53 01-16-91 -> 5538
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Well here is the list of Magicians attending the MAGIC! Luncheon thus
far. If you are planning on attending the MAGIC! Luncheon on the 25th
of January at the Magic Castle and do not appear on the list below
please take the time to send me a message right now! Just hit your "R"
key and send me a quick message and I will confirm your reservation.
MAGIC! LUNCHEON
NAME TIME AND DATE OF RESERVATION
=====================================================================
1. DARRELL MURPHY
2. WAYNE POWERS 09:23:59 12-19-90
3. MARVIN STERN 16:01:06 12-19-90
4. DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop) 22:18:25 12-19-90
5. MIMI HERTZOG 03:47:18 12-22-90
6. MARK LODGE 00:51:40 12-31-90
7. STAN LAKE
8. ANTHONY BLAKE
9. RON BIEBER
10. DOUGLAS LARSON
11.* GENO MUNARI
12.* TABBY CRABB
* = TENTATIVE RESERVATION
Msg #5503 Dated 13:15:17 01-16-91 -> 5522
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: RING 21 AMMAR LECTURE
If you have been reading the messages of late you will know what I am
about to say. Yes, the RING 21 sponsored Ammar Lecture that was to
have been on the 21st of this month has be CANCELLED. RING 21 is
hoping to reschedule this lecture later in the year, if possible, but
of course we don't have any firm dates.
I would like to Thank all of you who did sign up though because it did
show the magic world or at least RING 21 that the MAGIC! Network is up
and coming as there were about five or six members from MAGIC! who
signed up. We are now a force to be reckoned with!!!!
Msg #5504 Dated 13:16:30 01-16-91
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: MARK LODGE (X)
Re: RING 21 MEETING
No Mark I don't know of any IBM Rings in San Luis Obispo. As far as our
Ring though we meet on the First Thursday of every month at the Wattles
Mansion in Hollywood so drop in anytime. you're always welcome!!
Msg #5505 Dated 13:19:19 01-16-91 -> 5540
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: LUNCH AT THE CASTLE
Your name has been added Douglas. You might (cough, cough) try to call
your (cough, cough) boss and tell him (cough, cough) that you are not
feeling (cough, cough) very well.There is also an Alibi phone in the
MAGIC CASTLE mens room with various background sounds which if you put
in a quarter it will sound like your calling from the airport, hospital
etc, etc....
Of course I don't take any responsibility nor do I endorse any of these
types of actions.
Msg #5506 Dated 14:15:43 01-16-91 -> 5547
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: PARALLAX REVISITED
Parallax Revisited
This is based on an original idea from Dave Britland
much of which can be found in his booklet PARALLAX available
from Martin Breese, Ltd. also credit Bob Neale for "Trapdoor
Card" and Terri Rogers for "Stargate" which Britland credits
in Parallax.
As far as I know, Jeff Busby started this "inside
out" trend in card magic with "Into The Fourth Dimension".
I do not know the entire lineage of this premise, but would
like to find out.
For the scoring, fold, and basic routine I refer you
to the above mentioned booklet.
DB> Magician gets a jumbo card from someplace. This
card has a trapdoor cut in its center. The spectator holds
the card face down not letting go and the magician proceeds
to fold the card up around spectators fingers and when
unfolds card is now face up. Pretty cool, huh. I thought so
too.
tc> But, I'm not too keen on jumbo cards and don't
keep any around except to fan the gnats away in the summer
and unless you're doing a routine with lotsa jumbos init,
just doesn't make sense to drag one outa nowhere just to
show this, but I really loved his effect and started
thinking about it.
Take your favorite card from a regular poker sized
dek and score and cut it as per Britland. Pre-crease it
carefully, but not enough to take the shine off, but just
enough to make it easy later. You can make up a half dozen
of these cards inabout 5 min after doing the first one. Use
a linoleum knife and a steel straightedge and be
careful...anyway.... put the trapdoor card someplace out of
the way in the deck and after doing a coupla trix force the
trapdoor card for a laugh and take it from the spectator and
crease/fold the card once again while explaining about the
experiments the British have been running on "parallel
universe theory" using ordinary playing cards. I might
explain about the work that General Busby and Prime Minister
Walton did, but they were only able to enter the "paradept
range about half the time, etc". Thats just me, you can
tellit anywayouwant.
If youve gotta laundry marker on you get it signed
just to prove you didn't resort to using some kind of trick
card (which everybody knows I do). Your pigeon (I use this
term fondly) will like seeing the card unfold face up
bearing their signature and it makes a great souvenir.
Proceed into, through, and out of the routine. This
effect isn't a closer, but could be positioned as an encore
with souvenir or near the beginning of a longer routine so
you wouldn't have to keep dealing with the trapdoor card.
*I'm wondering if Harbin didn't come up with
something along these lines. I'm speaking reference to his
interest in paper folding; however do not have books....must
add to the list I guess.......tabman
Msg #5508 Dated 14:42:28 01-16-91 -> 5558
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: I MOVE
Do you recall the principle that Kranz used for his ascending water?
I'm sure that the device I saw is NOT a new principle as I've seen it
before. But these guys are packaging the thing in an easy to use form.
Thanks.
Msg #5509 Dated 14:43:59 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: NEW PHONE LINES
If you are right, that "not being normal is a prerequisite for being a
MAGIC!ian," then the MAGIC! system should win a Castle award...
Msg #5510 Dated 14:45:06 01-16-91 -> 5565
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: LUNCHEON
Darrell - I need to know how many MAGIC! buttons to get ready if you
have a luncheon count. I plan to issue NUMBERED SIGNED ones for the
luncheon, assuming they can be ready in time. This will be their
premier appearance and the announcement of the slogan contest winner.
Msg #5514 Dated 14:57:55 01-16-91 -> 5631
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVID LUTHER (X)
Re: MICAHAEL AMMAR
Glad to hear that Mike is not permanently damaged. Also glad to hear
that he was doing something reasonable like trying to do a card on
airplane wing and not something strange.
Please give him our regards and MAGIC!'s phone number.
Msg #5515 Dated 15:00:39 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO' BOOKS
I'd love to work on a Tesla Coil. But don't hook it to your modem! In
your research, have you come across something called, I think, nitrogen
tri-iodide? Made some once. It is an unstable chemical that
crystalizes from the inside out. Then, when slightly jarred, the
crystals explode in a harmless, but noisy, manner. I made a dolop of
the stuff in high school and the first, inside, crystal exploded and
blew the stuff all over the room. For several days thereafter when
someone moved they would set them off.
Your woodworking sounds great. I've always thought I would like to do
some, but the fact that I don't probably means that I really don't want
to. Along with Ron Bieber I've been thinking of a close-up case. Not
a table, although it could include some folding legs, but a case that
could be carried and easily used.
Didn't know that the PC-11 would print on a card. Tried printing some
with a laser printer but it didn't bind to the surface. Was gonna try
using fine steel wool to burnish the plastic prior to printing. There
are a LOT of things you can do if you can print custom cards.
The fax idea is a good one. I use a fax card and it has a timed mode.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Msg #5516 Dated 15:06:54 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVID LUTHER (X)
Re: QUESTIONS ON SYSTEM
>From what programming told me you should NOT miss messages in the
situation where you are on and preparing a message while others are
posting theirs. The system is supposed to keep track of the last
number you READ, not the number of a message you send. What does
happen is that when you see the message can change. For example, you
are reading and someone is posting. If their message is posted before
you finish reading then you will see it immediately. On the other
hand, if you have finished reading but are still on the system when the
post occurs then you will probably not see it until the next time you
log on.
The IS a way that you can miss messages, but it has nothing to do with
multi-user. It can happen like this -- You read a thread that, let's
say, starts at message # 3500 and has a message at # 3600. You read
that last, highest, message but then you LOG OFF. Effectively you have
stored # 3600 as your highest read even though you have not read
another thread that begins at # 3501. That's why I recommend using R;*
(or RC;*) and reading ALL new messages when you log on.
There are two ways to shorten your sign on time. You can go to the
User Parms (U from the Main Menu) and change your profile so that the
"Checking for Messages" system is disabled for you. Works fine if you
read all new messages anyway and don't care if some were addressed to
you or not.
You also CAN stop the "Welcome" screen. When it begins you hold down
the CTRL key as you type K.
Msg #5517 Dated 15:14:53 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KEN KLOSTERMAN
Why not make prints of the Klosterman collection and paste them on your
cardboard boxes?
Msg #5518 Dated 15:15:27 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: 5000
You are right! At the present rate 10,000 is not far off.
Msg #5519 Dated 15:16:15 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JANUARY GENII
January Genii arrived yesterday! Haven't had a chance to really go
thru it -- last night my wife's car broke down some miles away and I
had to go do the macho bit. Then our Jr. Magician, stimulated by all
the excitement, didn't want to sleep.
BUT I SAW the TABBY CRABB article was in there! GOOD GOING, TABMAN!
AND if you check page 190 you'll find a very nice article about how
MAGIC! is publishing the Kaps letters.
Msg #5520 Dated 15:21:56 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
Thanks Marv!
Msg #5521 Dated 15:22:39 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: JAN. GENII
Saw the plate in there! Some months going through Genii is like seeing
MAGIC! in print. Hmmmm... Guess Dante would see MAGIC! as Genii
on-line!
Msg #5522 Dated 15:27:47 01-16-91 5503 <--> 5567
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: RING 21 AMMAR LECTURE
Thanks for the update Darrell. Even though it confirmed what was
expected - no Ammar to start 1991 with a bang. Oh well, please sign
Ron Bieber and I up for whenever he is here.
Was going to comment on the importance of MAGIC! but right now, on the
radio, they are doing a piece on how "computer literacy" is really not
very important...
Msg #5524 Dated 15:48:46 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: TABBY'S BOOK LIST
The AUTHORIZED edition of Tabby Crabb's book list is now online. Very
nice list, Tabby! It is available in the files area as TOPBOOKS.TXT
Well done! And a big thanks to the Tabman! (Incidentally, Tabby. In
replacing it in the files I accidentally overwrote your description of
it. If you don't like mine, let me know and I'll change it -- only you
will have to tell me what to change it to).
Msg #5525 Dated 17:02:57 01-16-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: CAN'T BELIEVE IT
Been watching the newz for the past coupla hours and wanted to
check in....can't believe it.....God Bless...
Msg #5526 Dated 18:04:10 01-16-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: SLYDINI
Slydini funeral will be at Ippolito Funeral Home, 252 Henry, Orange,
New Jersey 07080.
No other details.
Desert War has started. AAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Msg #5527 Dated 18:05:13 01-16-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: WAR
I can't believe it all. It looks like football coverage by the
networks. I feel sorry for the CNN guys still in Bagdad! Lets hope
there is big magic in our missles nd they only hit military stuff.
Msg #5529 Dated 19:28:40 01-16-91 -> 5539
From: STAN LAKE
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: XMAS CARD
No problem. You said the Ammar lecture on the 25th. Do you mean the
21st? I will be at the 6:00 lecture on the 21st and at the lunch on
the 25th. Either one will be fine, just let me know.
Msg #5530 Dated 19:55:31 01-16-91 -> 5531
From: STAN LAKE
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: XMAS CARD
I'll try anything once. How do I make a brainwave deck? Is that the
old ruf'n'smooth?
Msg #5531 Dated 20:19:21 01-16-91 5530 <--> 5534
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: XMAS CARD
Thats the one. Half blue half red face to face. rough between faces.
Msg #5533 Dated 20:20:57 01-16-91 -> 5549
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: KIND WORDS
Thanks dad! No seriously, appreciate the kind words. As far as the book
list is concerned I consider it a first effort and will work to refine
and condense (enlarge??) it as my knowledge and understanding
increases....
Msg #5534 Dated 20:26:21 01-16-91 5531 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: XMAS CARD
Wow! was I surprised to see an answer to my query before I had logged
off! This new expanded service is great! Now, to be a little more
specific- are the brainwave cards situated odd and even as in the
invisible deck? So all of the odd are blue and even red?
Msg #5535 Dated 20:34:41 01-16-91 -> 5536
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: KIDS SHOW
I am trying t o put together some kids shows for thge near future.
I'm having a bit of difficulty concentrating wit-h all of the worry
about our troops and all.
The next show I have scheduled i
s f or a grbirthday party of nine year
olds. I was thinking of including one card effect and that is a
versi on of Out Of Thits World where I have each of the kids guess
whether the next card goes into t- he black or the red pile. Does
a yone familiar with kid shows and familiar with the effect have any
r*ecommendations one way or txhe other?
Since I am now getting paid for t-hese shows I can afford to buy some
more effects and put together a set routine. I hear the Metamorpho
spots is good for kids. Also, a silk cascade mig-ht be nice. What do
y'all think?
Let's hope peace will soon be w-ith us and our men and women safely
home.
Msg #5536 Dated 20:45:52 01-16-91 5535 <--> 5541
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: KIDS SHOW
Wow, I just read my message and honest, I'm not that bad of a typist!
We must have some awful line noise.
Msg #5538 Dated 21:32:18 01-16-91 5502 <--> 5546
From: RICHARD HART
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Ah, ahem, didn't see my name on the Castle Magic! luncheon list....
Please, add me!
Msg #5539 Dated 21:38:06 01-16-91 5529 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: XMAS CARD
Well, Stan, I guess it will have to be at the Castle lunch on the 25th,
as the Ammar lecture has gone the way of the lemming...
See you there!
_richard
Msg #5540 Dated 21:52:06 01-16-91 5505 <--> 5568
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: LUNCH AT THE CASTLE
Problem solved, I made out a new schedule and I don't have to start
until 4pm. I guess it just works out when you need it to. Looking
forward to seeing everyone there.
Msg #5541 Dated 21:42:15 01-16-91 5535 <--> 5559
From: RICHARD HART
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
Stan,
Currently my kid show (for 7-9 year olds) consists of the following:
(And if you notice any similarity to Ginn's, your right. It works!)
Opening warm up leading into
Vanishing Liter bottle of Coke
Then, to music:
Cane to silk
Splitting silks
Dove from silks
Zebra silks
Color changing records
Dove from balloon (tray)
Card fans
Diminishing cards
Fan-to-see
Rabbit production (mirror) box (handled like Ginn's Radio Rabbit)
Hippity Hop Rabbits or Run Rabbit Run (either)
Magic Spelling Cards (From Stanley Collins' "A Conjuring Melange")
Strato Spheres
Ginn's Snake Can routine
Dove thru Glass
Cords of Phantasia (dressing birthday child in Teenage Mutant Turtle
costume and having THEM escape from ropes instead
of the usual silks. Turtle sword is substituted
for the wand.)
(Filler -- 6 card repeat)
(Filler -- Die Box -- NOT USED if Run Rabbit Run used above)
Dove Vanish using Nite-club dove vanish (to music)
Magical Baking (Candy ala dove pan--note: All the comedy wands are
used in this routine. Again see Ginn for these...)
I use the candy production as a good closer. The candy is produced,
and then I lead all the kids to the table for cake, magical candy, and
whatnot. Leaves me free to return to pack while kids have lunch or
cake...
Hope this helps. I'll talk more with you at the Castle luncheon if
you'd like.
Msg #5542 Dated 22:26:46 01-16-91 -> 5555
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PANDORA'S UNCLE
Clarke "The Senators" Banjo is hanging in the hallway to the hat and
hare pub in the castle.
Msg #5543 Dated 22:27:16 01-16-91 -> 5628
From: MAX MAVEN
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: KAPS
Fred was at both the Boston and Philadelphia conventions, but as the
latter was 1976 I presume it was at the former in 1974 to which you
were trying to peg your reference.
Msg #5544 Dated 22:33:01 01-16-91 -> 5556
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DEL RAY
For my money, the best magician on the face of the planet.
Msg #5546 Dated 22:51:47 01-16-91 5502 <--> 5551
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
TO: DARRELL MURPHY
FROM: EVAN KATZ
I just joined MAGIC! this week, and know nothing of the luncheon. Care
to supply me with a few details? It sounds terriffic, and I live in
the area.
Msg #5547 Dated 22:53:44 01-16-91 5506 <--> 5576
From: EVAN KATZ
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PARALLAX REVISITED
In regard to Busby's contribution to card-folding/topographical magic,
you should take a look in Kaufman's new 100% Sankey. The Card
Warp-like effect has some very nasty editorial from Kaufman re Busby's
contributions to this famous effect. It made me curious -- anyone
know//remember what started the Kaufmann/Busby feud?
Msg #5549 Dated 22:59:27 01-16-91 5533 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: KIND WORDS
It looked good to me, Tabman. I'm sure that others will have specific
comments once they have seen it.
Msg #5550 Dated 22:57:02 01-16-91
From: EVAN KATZ
To: ALL
Re: AUTOMENTAL
Just purchased Larry Becker's AUTOMENTAL. I know this is not a new
effect, but I'd thought I'd share this -- from the description in
Tannen's "Trikune," they strongly suggest this effect (determine
spectator's choice of price, make and color of a car in predictions) is
not accomplished the way it actually is. Huh? What I mean to say,
withouth giving away Becker's effect, which is actually really nice, is
that tfrom the description, all the obvious methods for this type of
effect are ruled out (carbon, one-ahead, etc...) This is not true!
The description is um... let's say... *confusing.*. I don't know why this shoul
d surprise
should surprise me, but I always hope for the best...
Msg #5551 Dated 23:04:36 01-16-91 5546 <--> 5566
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
The MAGIC! Luncheon at the Magic Castle will be on Friday, January
25th, starting at 11:30. You do NOT need to be a member of the Castle
to participate and the dress, I assume, will be casual.
Each attendee will pay for his or her own parking, lunch, and beverages
(I assume -- actually I don't believe that Darrell ever said he wasn't
buying lunch for everyone).
This will be MAGIC!'s first event. Two more are planned - a
get-together and program at Desert Magic in March and a similar
get-together and program at IBM in June.
Msg #5553 Dated 23:10:16 01-16-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: CONTRIBUTION
Charlie - Received your contribution to MAGIC! in today's mail. Thank
you! Both the letter and the check were very nice! (Even the
illustration on the check is nice and rather special).
The contributions we have received to date may be very handy -- one of
MAGIC!'s hard drives is beginning to make unpleasant noises.....
Msg #5555 Dated 23:44:39 01-16-91 5542 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: PANDORA'S UNCLE
Nice to know. Crandall was and still is one of my heroes.
Msg #5556 Dated 23:45:08 01-16-91 5544 <--> 5586
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: DEL RAY
Del is the one I often refer to as having taken a liability (his speech
impediment) and made it an asset in the way he talks "like a hood"
during his dice work. WHICH IS THE BEST ON ANY PLANET!!!!
Msg #5557 Dated 23:46:57 01-16-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: DRIVING
Well gang, I is driving from Gualala to Anaheim starting tomorrow. Will
take two days (no rush and things to do along the way) unfortunatley I
will be in the Arizona desert while you are having FREE LUNCH at the
Castle. You might have to pay for it, but you a9e free! Lets hope the
rest of the world will soon be. What do you know Max?
Msg #5558 Dated 2:27:17 01-17-91 5508 <--> 5582
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: I MOVE
The water tube was designed to shoot the water out in tiny and
disntinct droplets, and the speed of these drops could be regulated.
The illumination was a light in the top of the thing that appeared to
be continuous, but was actually cycling at about 30 blinks a second in
strobe fashion. By playing around with the strobe frequency or the
water flow you could make the falling drops appear to slow, stop and
reverse, apparently going back up into the faucet. It is the same
phenomenon that appears to make a spoked wheel run backwards when seen
in a motion picture.
Msg #5559 Dated 8:10:59 01-17-91 5535 <--> 5581
From: MICHAEL OVERLY
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
Metamorpho spots is a great effect for kids. Depending on the ages, I
have found that the old coloring book effect goes over incredibly well.
I particularly like the three change books: Plain, line drawings, and
then colored drawings. This is really a good audience participation
effect. I also recommend any of David Ginn's (spelling?) books. In
particular, there is a short bit included in his book "Kid show Magic"
(I think that's the title) that has a great little warm up for kid
that you use as assitants during your act. Also, doing a few balloon
animals is a great addition. You don't have to have a large
selection--just the basics: hat, dog, apple, ect. Good luck.
Msg #5560 Dated 8:16:05 01-17-91 -> 5572
From: MICHAEL OVERLY
To: ALL
Re: DARWIN ORTIZ
I just purchased Darwin Ortiz' new book, "Darwin Ortiz at the Card
Table." I am not familar with the author, does anyone know of any
other books that he has published? Also, is there anyway to get old
issues of Ibidem? Thanks for the help.
Msg #5561 Dated 9:13:47 01-17-91 -> 5602
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: DOWNLOAD
I have tried several times to download the file UNZIPMAC.SIT file and
have been unable to be succll. It gets 25,728 bytes and then cancels.
Any ideas?
Msg #5563 Dated 12:46:42 01-17-91 -> 5573
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MIND WAX
I'm mailing you an old brainwave deck I have in the
drawer. Will send out tomorrow. If you do decide to make some of
these up make me one red/blue and rest blue/blue. I'm trying to
find the old printed instructions that came with the deck and you
can see how they're supposed to be set up. The chem is put on
faces and arranged as per the example.
This is a great trick but don't know how popular it is
today. I see E. Burger has it in his "Experience..." book so at
least there's some current awareness.
Don't worry about sending it back. Later.....tc
Msg #5564 Dated 14:08:13 01-17-91 -> 5583
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: MODEM COMMANDO
Modem Commando
You'd be surprised at how little I actually spend on my
longdistance considering that most daze I log onto MAGIC! more
than once from over 3,000 miles away. It didn't happen overnight,
but after alarming telephone charges I began looking for an
alternative.
Dr. Lichtman suggested PC-Pursuit which is the Class A
way to go if you live in a city that has a Telenet node. Me, no
node. ((Maybe Dr. Light will put that info up again or in FILE)).
The average length of my calls now is less than three
minutes and often less than 1 minute. This doesn't allow for
daydreaming or even reading the messages as they go by. This is a
quick in and out. I read messages off line and respond to them
off line. I can pop on during the day and upload messages at my
convenience still using the quick in and out.
Briefly -->
- Have macros or quick keys set up with username and
password.
- use keyboard memory to make your sign on rapidly:
as soon as you see the "connect" from your modem
software hit twice then "c" then username
hotkey and followed by password hotkey immediately
followed by a .
((Your fingers will be
outrunning the screen at this point but all will catch
up.))
- turn on your capture mode while you wait for the screen
to catch up with you.
- if you set your user parameters to ignore the message
check you'll be in immediately. To get all the messages
left since your last signon use " RC;* " to rapidly
pull down all messages (your personal mail included).
- immediately upon seeing the end of messages flag and
the main menu entry line enter " G " and you're outa
here.
Does this make sense??
Wonder if a TAPCIS type system could be utilized, but
since I'm using good old PROCOMM I let my fingers do the walking.
Procomm has lots of capability once you learn your way around. It
is almost a complete operating environment. I'm in Procomm right
now using a shelled word processor for speed. Anyway......
Msg #5565 Dated 14:15:06 01-17-91 5510 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: LUNCHEON
Here is the list as of 17 Jan 91 at 14:12:
MAGIC! LUNCHEON
NAME TIME AND DATE OF RESERVATION
========================================================================
1. DARRELL MURPHY
2. WAYNE POWERS 09:23:59 12-19-90
3. MARVIN STERN 16:01:06 12-19-90
4. DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop) 22:18:25 12-19-90
5. MIMI HERTZOG 03:47:18 12-22-90
6. MARK LODGE 00:51:40 12-31-90
7. STAN LAKE
8. ANTHONY BLAKE
9. RON BIEBER
10. DOUGLAS LARSON
11. RICHARD HART 21:32:18 01-16-91
12.* GENO MUNARI
13.* TABBY CRABB
* = TENTATIVE RESERVATION
Msg #5566 Dated 14:19:29 01-17-91 5538 <--> 5569
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Sorry I lost some file download the other day so I may have missed your
message. That is why I posted the list so that if you didn't see your
name then let me know as you did. Your name has been added now and I
for one am looking forward to meeting all of the people there.
Msg #5567 Dated 14:22:40 01-17-91 5522 <--> 5584
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: RING 21 AMMAR LECTURE
I will keep you and Ron in mind when I get the word. As far as
"Computer Literacy" not being really important I don't know who you
were listening to but I can't believe that someone could be that
ignorant as to make a statement like that. It sounds like an ostrich
sticking its head in the sand kind of thinking. It is my prediction
that in the next four or five years computer basics will be as required
as reading, writing and arithmatic in our schools.
Msg #5568 Dated 14:29:58 01-17-91 5540 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: LUNCH AT THE CASTLE
GREAT!!! Looking forward to seeing you again!!!
Msg #5569 Dated 14:30:46 01-17-91 5546 <--> 5590
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
********** THE 1st ANNUAL MAGIC! LUNCHEON **********
January 25, 1991 will be the day for our first annual MAGIC! Luncheon
at the MAGIC CASTLE.
At the current time I have a list of 11 maybe 13 attendees. If you
plan on attending and have not RSVP'd then please write me a message
NOW!!!!
REMEMBER
DATE: 25 JAN 91
PLACE: THE MAGIC CASTLE IN HOLLYWOOD
(You need not be a member of the MAGIC CASTLE for this luncheon)
TIME: 11:30am
Msg #5570 Dated 14:32:26 01-17-91
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: DAY-OF-MAGIC II UPDATE
:::::::::::::::: IT WAS AN EXPERIMENT LAST YEAR ::::::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::: THIS YEAR THE EXPERIMENT CONTINUES ::::::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ANNOUNCING :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DAY-OF-MAGIC II <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
)))))))))))))))))))))) SPONSORED BY RING 21 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WHEN: Saturday May 4, 1991
Registration begins at: 8:30 am
Lectures begin at: 9:00 am
WHERE: UCLA, SHOENBERG HALL/AUDITORIUM
COST: Preregistration before April 15th is:...........$45.00 *
Registration at the door is:....................$55.00 *
Parking in parking structure 5:.................$ 4.00
* Registration Includes: 4 sessions of lectures, workshops, and
admission to dealer area plus one ticket to evening show.
For more information call Will Chandler at: (818) 284-1776
=================================================================
TENTATIVE ITINERARY
=================================================================
09:00 to 10:15 First set of lecture sessions
10:30 to 12:00 Second set of lecture sessions
12:00 to 1:30 Lunch and dealers (Food will be available for purchase
from concession stands)
01:30 TO 02:45 Third set of lecture sessions
03:00 to 04:30 Forth set of lecture sessions
=================================================================
Lecturers booked thus far include:
Johnny Ace Palmer
Mitch Williams
Jeff Hobson
John Kennedy
Dale Salwak
Dennis Forel
Russsell Lewis
Jim Kopperman
and more...........
There will also be a Dealers room and if you are a dealer and would
like to have a booth contact Will Chandler at: (818) 284-1776
(SPACE IS LIMITED)
The evening show will be at 6:00 pm with single tickets available to
the public thru Ticket-Tron.
Available to all who are registered, there will be an evening party
after the evening show at the Wattles Mansion in Hollywood.
MANY MORE SURPRISES TO COME!!!!! KEEP YOUR EYES POSTED TO THE NETWORK
FOR DAY-OF-MAGIC II UPDATE INFORMATION!!!!!
Msg #5572 Dated 17:13:46 01-17-91 5560 <--> 5589
From: MAX MAVEN
To: MICHAEL OVERLY (X)
Re: DARWIN ORTIZ
Darwin's other published material is mostly in the form of lecture
notes, as well as two books for the public on gambling, cheating, &c.
Presently, _Ibidem_ is out of print, and locating copies -- even of the
Fulves reprints of the first two dozen -- is virtually impossible.
Msg #5573 Dated 17:15:30 01-17-91 5563 <--> 5577
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MIND WAX
The deck described in Eugene's book is _not_ a Brainwave, although it
is obviously related to it.
Msg #5574 Dated 17:17:00 01-17-91 -> 5627
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: COINS
The basic stack of quarters gaff predates Nate Leipzig by several
centuries.
Msg #5576 Dated 17:22:59 01-17-91 5547 <--> 5580
From: TABBY CRABB
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: PARALLAX REVISITED
Hi Evan -->
Appreciate the reference and since the book is on the
shelf I was able to check it out. Maybe I can't read between the
lines well, but even though Kaufman called Busby's handling
"uninspired" I can't seem to find any evidence of a feud. Roy
Walton did take the Busby idea and enlarge it into a trick which
stands on its own so no disagreement there.
Sankey has a neat idea with the one card and rubber band
but I don't really think anybody has ever topped the original
routine that Roy Walton built on Jeff Busby's idea -Card Warp -
except maybe a guy I've only heard rumors of who works at a
bar/restaurant in Indiana somewhere.
- tabman -
Msg #5577 Dated 17:42:42 01-17-91 5573 <--> 5606
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MIND WAX
Hi Max -->
You're right about it not being exactly a 26/26 type
"brainwave" deck, but since they used the term in the text and in
the adv. from K&G I used it too. Do you have the Fulves book,
"History of the Brainwave Principal"???
Further reading on the "stack of quarters" finds mention
of the "cap and pence" which predates. Did Leipzig bring the
effect into modern times with the quarters or was he simply
another in a long evolutionary chain?
Still enjoying "Focus" on this end. Great book...
Msg #5578 Dated 17:48:34 01-17-91 -> 5594
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: DEAN/CEMK/GENII
Hi Dante...
Genii usually gets to the mid-atlantic a couple of weeks
behind the west coasters so haven't seen the CEMK bit yet, but
thanks for running it...
I thought I wrote Dean on letterhead, but maybe not. Sent
him some old Tarbell adv copy I got from Charlie awhile back
since he's doing all that good stuff based on Dr. T.....tc
Msg #5579 Dated 17:49:16 01-17-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: MCCM
Great! Consider yourself counted......be back later...tc
Msg #5580 Dated 18:40:33 01-17-91 5576 <--> 5593
From: EVAN KATZ
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PARALLAX REVISITED
Tabby:
The Sankey book's pretty great, I think, though (as I've noted
before) it seems to strangely fall just a little shy of Kaufmann's
usual production quality -- cause for jitters more than genuine
concern... Re the Kaufmann/Busby feud, my question is really the gossip
in me coming out. A year or so ago I caught the tail end of it,
reading in Busby's newsletter something to the effect of (from Busby)
that he wasn't putting up with Kaufmann's taunts any more, and would no
longer stock Kaufmann's books. I think this has something to do with
the column Kaufmann had in a major magic magazine (GENI?). As a matter
of fact, I'm pretty sure that's what i had to do with. Anyway, I
invite anyone to fill us in on this feud, since it sounds like juicy
stuff!
Msg #5581 Dated 18:56:21 01-17-91 5541 <--> 5585
From: STAN LAKE
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
That seems like quite a big show. How long does it run? I was
thinking along the lines of doing 25 to 30 minutes after tieing some
animal balloons. I don't use any livestock as I don't have any room to
be a rabbit rancher or dove keeper. Maybe I should get some of those
fake animals and rubber doves. They won't take up much shelf space and
are easy to care for!
Msg #5582 Dated 20:30:41 01-17-91 5558 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: I MOVE
E-yup -- that's it. A downward stream of droplets and an adjustable
strobe. Apparently these folks are coming out with it as a well
designed unit. Not intended for magic, but probably useful. They had
some other items that I will describe in a few days.
Msg #5583 Dated 20:39:06 01-17-91 5564 <--> 5587
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MODEM COMMANDO
Thanks for the good advice, Tabman! I have only one question -- you
use hotkeys to type "c" and then your name and password? What is the
"c" for? We don't use one! Otherwise, it sounds good to me. As
general information for others -- your name can be typed on ONE LINE.
When MAGIC! asks for your name, you can enter the whole name, first and
last, with a space in between. No need to enter just your first name
and then wait until the system asks for your last name.
Good stuff, Tabman!
Msg #5584 Dated 20:42:31 01-17-91 5567 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: RING 21 AMMAR LECTURE
I think that the guy was, at least in part, making a statement that I
made at an education convention several years ago. That schools go
about "computer literacy" in the wrong ways. Don't want to do details
here on MAGIC! Just threw in the other stuff because it was happening
as I was keying and it seemed germain to the topic.
Thanks for keeping Ron and I in mind. Sure hope Michael heals quickly.
Msg #5585 Dated 21:03:44 01-17-91 5559 <--> 5588
From: STAN LAKE
To: MICHAEL OVERLY (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
Thanks for the tips. I'm going down to the magic shop tomorrow and
pick up the coloring book, metamorpho spots and some balloons.
Do you think kids in the 9 year old range would enjoy the "Out Of This
World" effect? That is where you have them guess whether the card you
are holding is red or black and you go through about half the deck that
way and then show that all of their guesses were correct.
Msg #5586 Dated 21:09:19 01-17-91 5556 <--> 5595
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DEL RAY
What kind of effects did he have in his dice work? I may have missed
the message, but did someone say he still performs someplace?
Msg #5587 Dated 21:11:44 01-17-91 5583 <--> 5591
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MODEM COMMANDO
Two then a "C" then enter entire name
then password the <^K>.......I didn't think it made sense,
been watching too much "war" stuff on tv....
Msg #5588 Dated 21:15:03 01-17-91 5559 <--> 5597
From: PETE BIRO
To: MICHAEL OVERLY (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
I never treat Kids as Kids, literally doing the same stuff as for
adults... and Duke's Dye Versin is great to use when you need a message
sign at the end, such as "Happy Birthday" etc...
Msg #5589 Dated 21:16:39 01-17-91 5572 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: DARWIN ORTIZ
See him at the IBM Convention in Baltimore! Live!
Msg #5590 Dated 21:17:50 01-17-91 5551 <--> 5592
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Awwwwwww I understood Darrell was buying.
Msg #5591 Dated 21:18:41 01-17-91 5564 <--> 5598
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MODEM COMMANDO
Makes sense, I will read later
Msg #5592 Dated 21:19:52 01-17-91 5569 <--> 5599
From: PETE BIRO
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
I'll be lunching at Los Arcos, in Parker Arizona thinking of youse guys
Msg #5593 Dated 21:21:10 01-17-91 5576 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PARALLAX REVISITED
Mike Close IMHO has the best versin of Card Warp and it is in his new
book "Workers" -- I hv seed him doit.
Msg #5594 Dated 21:21:59 01-17-91 5578 <--> 5640
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DEAN/CEMK/GENII
Tabman of Bass Solo fame... Stevens sold all the roth books before I
called him. We both lost on tht one.
Msg #5595 Dated 21:22:47 01-17-91 5586 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: DEL RAY
To describe Del Ray's dice work would be like trying to tell you waht
Dai Vernon has done with cards. I can only say it is mind boggling,
original and MORE THAN INCREDIBLY ENTERTAINING as well as baffling.
Max Maven will tell you the same...
Msg #5597 Dated 21:36:45 01-17-91 5581 <--> 5611
From: RICHARD HART
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
Well, Stan, yes it IS a big show. Even bigger with two U.F. Grant type
Nite Club tables, a main table, a dove cage table, and a dump basket.
David Ginn would have a heart-attack if he saw what I pack just to do
a child's birthday party. And I'll be the first to admit I'm crazy.
But there's a method to my madness. First, I'm not making my living
with magic. I'm too much of a conservative to be constantly "on the
road", and therefore, doing magic full-time just isn't in the cards so
to speak. But I do LOVE magic. And I love seeing the smiling,
laughing faces in my small audiences as I put on the biggest magic show
most of them have ever seen. Right, smack-dab, in their living rooms.
And I know that they'll long remember the crazy fellow that came and
entertained them when they were a kid. And perhaps, by my actions, one
or two of them will be smitten by the magic bug. Who knows, maybe
sometime in the year 2010 or so, there will arise another Slydini,
another Copperfield, or another Dante? And they will tell the story of
the magician who came one day, and caused a dove to appear, right,
smack-dab, in the middle of their living room...
Such is the stuff of dreams. My dreams.
Msg #5598 Dated 22:10:05 01-17-91 5587 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MODEM COMMANDO
Well... if it works, don't fix it, Tabman. But MAGIC! shouldn't need
the 's and the "C". You might just try a key with your name and
another with your password and see what happens. Actually, you should
be able to do both in a Procomm (or QModem) "Script." For example,
have the script check for a "?" at the end of "What is your Name?" and
then have it check for a ")" in "Password (dots will echo)". I DO have
hopes of creating some logon scripts for different communications
packages, but I'm up to my kazoo (hey, at least I worked music in here
somehow) and won't have a chance for a few weeks. BUT, if anyone is a
Procomm or QModem "guru" and would like to take a shot at it, I'd like
to see it.
By the way, it won't change your online time, but I think that you use
a protocol of 7-bits, even parity, 1-stop bit. It's OK, but for file
transfers and such a protocol of 8-bits, No-parity, 1-stop bit works
better. If you don't know what the H- I'm talking about, just keep
doing what you are doing. But if you do know, you might want to change
to the 8-bit one.
Msg #5599 Dated 22:18:08 01-17-91 5590 <--> 5600
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Well, maybe we could take turns... Darrell could buy this time, some
one else next year, and so on.
Msg #5600 Dated 22:18:58 01-17-91 5592 <--> 5613
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Biro is about the only guy who would go from Gualala, California, to
Aneheim, California, by way of Parker, Arizona. Why does he do it?
For the great lunch, obviously.
Msg #5602 Dated 22:23:57 01-17-91 5561 <--> 5751
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: DOWNLOAD
The UNZIPMAC.SIT file IS 25,728 bytes long! So whatever you were doing
DID get it all. What may e happening is that your system doesn't
understand the end signal that we send at the end of the file. That
could be a software difference, or it could be that you are using one
protocol on your end and another at the MAGIC! end. Which protocols
did you select?
Msg #5606 Dated 1:54:53 01-18-91 5577 <-
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MIND WAX
Yes, I have both of the Fulves books exploring the roots of the
Brainwave Deck. He digresses a lot, but in some interesting related
directions.
Coin magic is hardly my area of historical knowledge, but I would
guess that Leipzig's involvement was, as you say, as part of a "long
evolutionary chain."
Msg #5607 Dated 6:01:41 01-18-91 -> 5635
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: DECKS
Received the decks, thanks a million.
Charlie
Msg #5609 Dated 7:21:43 01-18-91 -> 5636
From: TABBY CRABB
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: FEUD ??
I do remember that Kaufman was "dismissed" by Genii for
his sometimes controversial views. He picked fights with lots of
magi during that time. Inasmuch as my dealings with both Kaufman
and Jeff Busby Magic have been excellent I really can't add to
your feud theory....
Msg #5610 Dated 8:00:35 01-18-91 -> 5614
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH BOOKS
I've got a line on two of the books and will find out
about them this evening. If gotem I'll put hold and let you know
immed. Thanks for checking with JS for me, was hoping.
Msg #5611 Dated 8:05:26 01-18-91 5585 <--> 5632
From: MICHAEL OVERLY
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
I think you will find the coloring book to be a great addition to your
act. If you would like I could recommend a few presentation pointers.
With regard to your out of this world effect, for visibility are you
using oversized cards? I think alot of nine year olds play cards
enough to enjoy a fairly quick paced presentation of the effect. Come
to think of it, most nine year olds could probably beat me at poker.
I also can't recommend enough the David Ginn thing about warming up
your audience assistants. It lasts from 4-5 minutes and its the best
warm up of its type that I have seen. Let me know how things go at
your show. Good Luck. Hope to hear from you soon.
Msg #5612 Dated 8:11:11 01-18-91 -> 5615
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: STOP BITS
Just tried the login at 8 bits and it is more efficient.
Thanks for the tip. Now no more "C" before entering
my name, etc. Saves about a second, now over ten years....hmmmmm.
In our Sessionmate Software(R) SIDEMAN(R) package for
recording studios for which I wrote the code we have a built in
commo shell that automatically logs the users computer to our bbs
in Nashville. I've been thinking about writing a shell for MAGIC!
but maybe I'll try to comeup with something for Procomm instead,
who knows....I write better software in the spring anyway....no
heat in my office this winter as we are trying to conserve.
Actually, now that Rick Ruhl is one of us, he's probably
the perfect candidate plus he codes assembler - me I use a "C"
compiler and am three years rusty.....
BTW, Ken Hensley is the high bidder on the QUALITY MAGIC
and you should be hearing from Ken soon...I have the book
carefully packaged and ready to send out "priority" soon as I get
his address, etc.........your pal..the tabman!
Msg #5613 Dated 10:07:43 01-18-91 5600 <--> 5617
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Great Mexican food, Los Arcos (ok it is the only placeintown.
Msg #5614 Dated 10:09:13 01-18-91 5610 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH BOOKS
Tabman... currenly roadin' it.... No Bass Players in site (but sound?)
Anyway.. keep a loose hold on the books. Joe Stevens said he MIGHT HAVE
ONE, AND WILL LET ME KNOW WHEN I GET HOME. Day After Raiders clinch
berth in Super Bowl.
Wow, did you see how accurate the bombers are? In the chimney out the
door? I have some Ideas ofr effects if we can get the technology.
Msg #5615 Dated 10:08:45 01-18-91 5612 <--> 5616
From: RICK RUHL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STOP BITS
Well, I have an extensive library of comm routiens. Hmm, I don't know
if we would need to write the whole thing in assembeler (however, I di
write my company's product, Emulink (a pcterm comm program) in
assembler.
It would depend if the bbs is going to change in the next few months.
We may just want to write a generic comm program that has it's own
built in scriping, or I could write a script for procomm. Either way,
it would be free to the users of MAGIC!.
Ricker
Msg #5616 Dated 10:12:29 01-18-91 5615 <--> 5623
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: STOP BITS
Count me in rick.... will put you on my A list. Whatever that means.
Msg #5617 Dated 11:08:49 01-18-91 5590 <--> 5618
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
WROOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Msg #5618 Dated 11:09:40 01-18-91 5592 <--> 5624
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Sure wish you were with us, but maybe next time.
Msg #5619 Dated 11:14:08 01-18-91 -> 5637
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOKS
Tried that mobile fax ## you gave me and got the cafe at
the Chino airport so they're shipping you 30 orders of creamed
chip beef and doughnuts COD to your hotel in Phoenix via
FedEx.....they said have the cash ready as they do not take
checks from musicians or photographers.
I found a coupla of those books (without slipcase) and
ordered myself one copy. Also (better) your heavy book pal had
one in the slipcase for $40 a few weeks ago so you mite wanna
give him a call if you hear negative from Wichita Joe.
Msg #5620 Dated 12:56:12 01-18-91 -> 5625
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: STOP BITS
May be my imagination (ego) but it seems to be a little smoother
running 7 bits as the modem is stripping the unwanted ascii bit off
before transmission........whatever.....
Msg #5621 Dated 14:43:12 01-18-91 -> 5626
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: 25TH LUNCH
I indicated long ago, even before a date was set, that I would like to
attend the MAGIC lunch. Do I need to re-confirm? Which room will we
be in? There are two guys, both you may have met at the Fri lunch we
went to a number of weeks ago, that may want to attend, ut won't know
till that Friday. Can they just show up? Have a good week-end.
Msg #5623 Dated 16:06:18 01-18-91 5612 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STOP BITS
I think you will find that the change to 8-bits no-parity may not save
much time, but that it will facilitate file transfers.
Didn't know you wrote in C. Magic, music, woodwork, programming -- is
there anything you don't do?
I would like to see some MAGIC! scripts for ProComm, QModem, and other
communication packages. Either simple or advanced. But right now I
haven't got time to write 'em. If anyone is interested I'll be pleased
to contribute plans/specs to the cause.
Congratulations to Ken Hensley! Looks like he got a good deal on a
great book. And MAGIC! got a great contribution. Hmmm... while we are
on the subject of "greats," we gotta mention another one --> TABMAN.
Msg #5624 Dated 16:17:08 01-18-91 5613 <--> 5653
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Great Mexican food is major mojo!
Msg #5625 Dated 16:18:38 01-18-91 5620 <--> 5630
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STOP BITS
Bits is bits, Tabman. Same number get pumped through the modem no
matter what you use 'em for. But there may be a "bit" more error
detection with 7-bit.
Msg #5626 Dated 16:20:07 01-18-91 5621 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: 25TH LUNCH
I'm not in charge of the MAGIC! Luncheon, Marvin, Darrell Murphy is.
I believe I did see your name on the list. I remember 'cause I was
looking forward to seeing you again. You will have to check with
Darrell about available space, etc.
Msg #5627 Dated 16:18:44 01-18-91 5574 <--> 5650
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: COINS
Just a brief comment on the Cap and Pence, Quarter Stack etc. Max is
right in commenting that the basic gaff predates Nate Leipzig "by
several centuries". Brought back some funny memories of a magician who
wanted to market an "original routine" over a decade ago. I hated to
tell him that his particular Cap and Pence routine was at least as old
as Henry Dean's _Whole Art of Legerdemain, or Hocus Pocus in
Perfection_ which was first published in 1722. When I did tell him he
was not pleased and never spoke to me again.
Though Dean stole a lot from Reginald Scot's _Discovery of Witchcraft_
(1584) and Sa. Rid's _Art of Jugling_ (1612) the stack does not appear
in those books. I have not checked _Hocus Pocus Junior_ (1634) because
I don't have it, so it may very well be earlier than Dean.
One of the more interesting presentations appeared in 1865 in Gerritt
M. Evans' _How to Win_ -- a lovely little book on gambling scams.
Therein the effect begins as a magic trick, but rapidly turns into a
con game.
Tabman, I haven't neglected the mass of messages and asides you've
directed at me for the past several weeks. Being on vacation has
produced a foot-high stack of correspondence, faxes etc. that I'm
wading through. I'll make an attempt to respond as time permits. In
the meantime, you might look for a short letter from me sent to your PO
Box that might contain something of interest.
Msg #5628 Dated 16:21:56 01-18-91 5543 <--> 5638
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: KAPS
Thanks for pinpointing it as Boston in 1974. I was sure of the year,
but couldn't for the life of me recall with certainty the locale. I
suspected Boston because I recalled the several times you, I, and Ken
Beale met during the convention. Hard to believe that Ken has now been
dead for over a decade -- a clever man who left little in the way of a
published legacy. There are notebooks, but trying to decipher the
scratchings of his blunt pencil is death to my eyes. Someday . . .
Msg #5630 Dated 18:22:33 01-18-91 5625 <--> 5646
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: STOP BITS
I'm just being hard headed which I'm good at too. As far
as being good at stuff, in growing up if you wanted something you
had to make it or go without. My dad was a fine craftsman and
taught me much about joinery and wood finishing who also told me
to never loan your car, your shotgun and your wife to anybody
else.
tabman never really had a "real" job so I've made my life
up while doing it and got lucky more than once, but am excited
about prospects of move and new digs cuz I know exactly what I
wanna do with the rest of it. This bbs is impt to lots of us and
I know we'll all do whatever we can to keep MAGIC! on the air.
Started with computers in 1967 and learned RPG on IBM
360-20 then automated the first computerized radio station in
Georgia - WRBL. Left that gig to go to Vietnam as a USO show
manager and never looked back - well maybe a coupla times but I
guess it was ok cuz never turned to stone.
Been doing magic since age 10 or 11 (35 years ago) and
didn't get into music til a few years later. Magic has been the
main constant in tabman's life - still got my first magic book,
where that first guitar is I couldn't tell you.
No need to pat me on the head (well maybe every once
inawhile) I'm here to help and benefit - plus, what a great bunch
of people. The first thing I do (well probably third right after
coffee) in the am is logon and check it out. The best stuff
usually goes on after I'm asleep here on the east coast cuz all
you nightowl leftcoasters get creative late.....tman..
Msg #5631 Dated 18:59:57 01-18-91 -> 5647
From: JACK TAVES
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MICAHAEL AMMAR
iI TALKED TO MICHAEL and he's ok. but he will bbe laid up for aprox. 6
to 8 weeks. he gave his regreats to all in calif, who were going to
attend one of his lectures... but he will make it up.
the jan 22nd lecture at cucamonga will be expert card man Richard
Turner, from San Diego. he has been seen on That's increadable and
and ripply's believe it or not... and if your interested in attending
leave me a note... tele 818-914-1288
Msg #5632 Dated 19:11:26 01-18-91 5597 <--> 5633
From: STAN LAKE
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
What a terrific way to look at things! That's not only kind and
unselfish of you to do all of that, it's a bit of a heroic effort too!
That's a nice thought that you might be the catalyst to inspire another
Great in the art of magic. I hope they remember you down their road to
fame and stardom!
Msg #5633 Dated 19:18:29 01-18-91 5611 <--> 5634
From: STAN LAKE
To: MICHAEL OVERLY (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
Yes, I would like some presentation pointers with the coloring book!
I will also be suiusing large size cards tilted up so all of the kids
can see them. I plan on having each child (approximately 12-15)
choose red or black twice. I will take a look at the David Ginn book
you recommended and see about that warmup. Sounds good!
Msg #5634 Dated 19:20:24 01-18-91 5611 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: MICHAEL OVERLY (X)
Re: KIDS SHOW
Another good addition to the coloring book (something I've been using
at Day-care center shows): Go to your local Builder's Emporium or the
like, and buy a dry-erase marker whiteboard. They sell them in cheap
wooden frames for less than $5. Cut out an artist's palette shape from
it using a jig-saw. Using several colors of dry-erase marker, put
blobs of color (including black) on it simulating oil paints. Using a
large camel's hair brush, you can actually erase the colors from the
board, and then "magically" pass them to the blank coloring book.
Msg #5635 Dated 19:26:22 01-18-91 5607 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: DECKS
Your very welcome Charlie, and thanks for the order. I never asked
anybody that ordered them, but what is your favorite effect(s) using a
force deck? Personally I still get a great deal of enjoyment doing Dr.
Lichtman's "Impossible Select" for magicians. For lay audiences I
enjoy doing a deck switch and performing a card location using a large
Bowie knife to "cut" to their card in the deck wrapped in paper.
Msg #5636 Dated 19:41:36 01-18-91 5609 <-
From: EVAN KATZ
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FEUD ??
Damn!
Msg #5637 Dated 21:20:53 01-18-91 5619 <--> 5664
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BOOKS
Will stay on top of it... not much happnin' here in Anaheim shootin
snaps, then off to Arizoner!!
Msg #5638 Dated 21:24:50 01-18-91 5628 <--> 5652
From: PETE BIRO
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: KAPS
Buzzer... I didn't know Ken had passed away. Sorry to hear it. He was
very knowledgable guy.
Msg #5640 Dated 22:30:01 01-18-91 5578 <--> 5657
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DEAN/CEMK/GENII
I wrote Dean today and included your P.O.Box address. I understand you
moved. House and all. Does Genii need a change of address ao does thwe
box stay the same? I would be curious to know when you receive your
issue. Major east coast cities often receive issues days before us.
Msg #5641 Dated 22:37:25 01-18-91 -> 5688
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: ALL
Re: UNBROKEN THREADS
For the sake of future reference when uploading replies to messages,
please go back to the original message and use "R" to reply. When you
just type in the same subject name the thread is not maintained. A new
thread is started each time and there is no way to go back and
reference the original message. It only takes a moment to scroll
through the old message. You will be grateful in the future when you
are trying to research a line of thought that was discussed here on
MAGIC!
Msg #5644 Dated 22:45:30 01-18-91
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: DAVID LUTHER (X)
Re: INVISIBLE THREAD
David the last time Michael Ammar was out my way he recommended using
Mettlers MetroLock 100 thread for invisible thread. He said it was
available at fabric stores. This brand doesn't appear to be available
out here. All I see at the fabric stores are "invisible threads" that
are so thick I could go fishing with them. Do you know anything about
the Mettler's? This is a private message if you'd like to keep your
reply that way just use the "R" to reply.
Msg #5645 Dated 22:46:58 01-18-91 -> 5672
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: DEALER WARNING
I also disputed the credit card charge to Rabbit-In-The-Hat Ranch,
along with sending a letter expressing my feelings. I received a
letter in reply along with a credit slip for the correct amount now
WITHOUT the 25% restocking charge. I'll include an edited copy of their
response letter here. To follow the whole story go back to my original
message DEALER WARNING. Sorry I don't know the mssg#.
Dear Burt,
As you know, over the years, we always aim to settle any customer
complaints and disputes, all to the customers satisfaction. An amiable
settlement can always be met and always is.
If we do something you don't agree with, we want to be told, so we
can rectify it to everyone's satisfaction.
It was , Burt a little premature to fly off the handle with me.
Because first, the 25% charge was not meant for you and was charged in
error.<>Second, because you have been dealing with us for some
time now and you know that openness and fairness is the only way we do
business.
Sorry for any grief and inconvenience I might have caused you. It
definately was not intentional.
Sincerely,
Stan Lobenstern<>
A bit of advice to all of you out there. If you have a credit card and
the dealer for any product, especially mail order products will accept
your credit card- USE IT. Federal law says you have up to six months
from the time you RECEIVE the goods or services to dispute the charge.
This means you have up to six months to stop payment. Don't abuse this
privilege or the law may be changed. But when you need some extra
leverage it gives you the upper handd.
Msg #5646 Dated 22:48:28 01-18-91 5630 <--> 5659
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STOP BITS
Well, lessee, Tabman. The stuff I learned was that a gentleman knew
how to do three things well - ride a horse, play chess, and drink
Jack Daniels. I'm fairly mediocre at all three. But we do have a few
things, in addition to age, in common. I got started on magic at about
age 8. Involved in electronics at about the same time. Started to
program in Fortran via punched cards in 1962. And was a DJ at a couple
of radio stations in my early 20's. Not much at music -- the only
instrument I can play well is the CD, but I do love listening to the
stuff.
Msg #5647 Dated 22:53:58 01-18-91 5631 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JACK TAVES (X)
Re: MICAHAEL AMMAR
Thanks for the info, Jack. Can't make it to Cucamonga that night but
maybe some other MAGIC! members will be interested.
Meanwhile, if you talk to Michael again remind him that a few hundred
incredibly interesting magi are only a modem away from entertaining
him.
Msg #5648 Dated 23:04:25 01-18-91 -> 5655
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: CONTRIBUTION
Thank you for your contribution to MAGIC! It is really appreciated.
You are on the list to receive both a signed and numbered MAGIC! button
and a MAGIC! Certificate. Will be a few days before they are ready, so
have patience.
Thanks!
Msg #5649 Dated 23:26:46 01-18-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: SLYDINI PICTURE
Jim Sisti has uploaded a picture of the late, great Slydini. It is now
available in the files area as SLYDINI.PCX.
Thank you Jim.
Msg #5650 Dated 1:30:41 01-19-91 5627 <--> 5667
From: MAX MAVEN
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: COINS
It is in Hocus Pocus Jr.
Msg #5652 Dated 1:31:29 01-19-91 5628 <-
From: MAX MAVEN
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: KAPS
I can only imagine that there is some wonderful material in those
notebooks, as Ken was such a fine creator. I hope at some point you're
able to decipher some of it.
Msg #5653 Dated 2:31:38 01-19-91 5599 <--> 5654
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Thats sounds like a great id, What do you thinDarrell?
Msg #5654 Dated 2:32:39 01-19-91 5617 <--> 5660
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Sotimes you can really rain on a Parade!
Msg #5655 Dated 2:47:59 01-19-91 5648 <-
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: CONTRIBUTION
Yourvery welce to visit.
Thanks again for all you do!
Msg #5657 Dated 10:27:11 01-19-91 5640 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: DEAN/CEMK/GENII
P.O. Address will stay the same til further notice. Genii
will definately be someone who will be among the first to be
notified of new address which will be Tennessee this year unless
complications arise.
Appreciate your passing along adr to Dean and will
certainly let you know when Genii arrives...usually 10-14 days
behind Arleta, CA....Glad to see you online as always...your
friend...tabman
Msg #5659 Dated 10:30:11 01-19-91 5646 <--> 5661
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: STOP BITS
Dr. Light:
Scarne's Magic Tricks was the only book in my small town
library on magic (I still have it...kidding) and I have the
illustrative style still etched in my brain as well as the photo
of Scarne from the front of the book.
One of the first dealer tricks I ever bought was a blue
plastic Okito Box from Abbotts from an ad in Genii. I remember my
grandmother taking me to Garrison's Magic and Novelty in
Washington D.C. and Al's Magic Shop (I think) long before they
moved. I have a copy of McKay ed (blue) More Magic I bought for
50 cents used at Garrison's when I was about 13. I was calling
myself "Tordini Jr." at that time and wrote it in model airplane
paint on the fly leaf - oh well...
Some interesting stats...according to the US Online
Yellow Pages there are 371 magic shops in the US Yellow pages &
883 magicians with yellow page ads in the US....sometime if I
ever get to roll in the dough again will download this infor and
send it up to add to the information base we are building here.
Howie called and sed John Calvert was living on his yacht
at Atlantic City doing some consultation on a show for one of the
casinos. Calvert keeps all his props stored on the boat (around
65 footer) and troupes thisaway. Must drive his agent crazy but
at his age and stature, I'm sure doesn't give two winks!
Had some cool Chinese Sticks I got from H.R. Hulse. They
were old when I gotem in 1950s. They were called Chinese Pencils
and looked like fat red metal pencils. Worked like regular
Chinese Sticks. Afraid I haven't seenem in years. Maybe they're
in that drawer at mom's.
My mom knew I'd never grow up and made sure I was taken
care of. She even guards over my magic stuff at her house (I left
home in 1964). She cleaned the room out a coupla decades ago but
called me first. I told her to throw everything away but my magic
stuff....she asks me about it every six months and I've been
putting her off for 20 years but she doesn't seem to mind. Guess
it keeps part of her "little boy" around. She'll join us at the
farm in TN when she slows down.....I may die first, her mom lived
alone til almost 90 and my dads mom is 97 and just moved in with
my aunt......unfortunately the men have all died young, but each
left a legacy.........your friend...tman...
PS....When laptops get down to about five bucks each we should
buy four or five ofem and send em out to some of these great
magic minds that we're loosing to age and givem an 800 number and
letem write, write, write......thanks for patting me on the head
the other day, now can you scratch behind this ear?
Msg #5660 Dated 10:35:11 01-19-91 5654 <--> 5670
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Want the truth? Darrell has done a GREAT job so far (so far -- we
haven't actually had the lunch yet), and I think we might consider,
under appropriate circumstances, buying HIS lunch. Providing, of
course, that he just has the chili. If he goes for the Festalbord or
a menu item, well, then maybe we'll just buy him a drink.
Msg #5661 Dated 10:43:09 01-19-91 5659 <--> 5663
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STOP BITS
Someday it will be interesting to see the US Online Yellow Pages
listings of magic shops and magicians. I'm sure that sooner or later
one of us will do it.
When I was about 8 there was a magic shop in my town. I used to haunt
the place, spending every spare nickel there. It was the kinda shop
there used to be in the world - a real shop run by a real person, not
a franchise. Whenever there weren't real customers to be served the
proprietor would take a lot of time with me. I remember buying an
"Atomic Lightbulb" there and I'm sure I bought several gaffed decks
like the DeLand's Automatic. I still have some of the decks, don't
know where the bulb went. There was some talk around here about
inspiring young magicians and the man who ran that shop certainly left
a legacy -- his time and care eventually was embodied in MAGIC! Sure
hope dealers still do stuff like that.
I think I was about 11 or 12 before I encountered Scarne in the
library. My little town had a surprisingly good library (Leslie
Charteris, "The Saint," used to even do some research there) and they
had several of the Scarne books. He became one of my major childhood
heros. I poured through his books and always had a deck of cards with
me. Practiced flourishes, etc. (I was just thinking back -- I
remember doing a magic show when I was about 8. Had my own clubroom in
the basement of the house. A friend and I gathered all the kids in the
neighborhood together and charged 'em to attend - can't remember how
much. Did some chemical and electrical magic, color changes, etc.
Gee, does that qualify as my first professional appearance?).
Your laptop idea is a good one. We'd have to figure out how to make
the computer side really easy to use - transparent - since most of them
aren't into computers. But it sure would be great.
Here's another thought -- maybe a project. Start getting magic books
into small local libraries. Sorta seed planting for future magi.
Msg #5663 Dated 15:48:23 01-19-91 5661 <--> 5677
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: STOP BITS
One of the things I like about you is your knack of
taking some far fetched idea like putting laptops in the hands of
ageing maji and distilling it into something workable like
putting a couple of beginners books on the shelves of small town
libraries. Might be a good project. The Old Principal's House
Library could use a complete set of "locked" books, Harbin Book,
letz see.......
Just kidding of course, but not about the idea. I like
it. Put it on the list. Something really viable. Lots of ideas
flowing right now, but will reserve til we talk later...
BTW...when we were kidz, my friend Geo. Hooks (now state
senator) built a town under his folks house and called it
"Little" and he was the mayor and saloon keeper. Me (what else) a
banjo playing magician deputy sheriff and member of the posse. We
were about 12 or 13 at the time........
Just heard the prez (the other one) is calling up a large
## of reservists, so I'd better sit tight. She got a notice from
them a coupla daze ago reminding her of her obligation, etc...
Appreciate everyones good wishes...........tabman..
Msg #5664 Dated 15:49:21 01-19-91 5637 <--> 5683
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOKS
Your SOS is getting cold.
Msg #5665 Dated 15:49:38 01-19-91 -> 5668
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: CHECKING ON YOU
Just got your letter and I'm speechless.....more later when I'm not.
(speachless that is)...yo friend, tman.
Msg #5666 Dated 17:03:29 01-19-91
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: RANDY LUND (X)
Re: BOOK LIST
Hi Randy and Marilyn. It was great to see that you two got started
with the _Klutz Book of Magic_. I was "technical advisor" on about half
the contents and my friend Martin Gardner was the other main
contributor. (See the back cover.) Some magicians shrieked in the
usual way about "exposure" but to my mind that's nonsense. As you know
the gaffs are carefully hidden (my requirement before I'd even consider
working on the book with John Cassidy) and the outfit comes in a
plastic sack. Also the book was designed to get the reader more and
more involved in magic as they studied the material, with one learned
skill leading to the next trick. In addition, the budding magician was
taught about secrecy and encouraged to continue his/her studies. We
also felt that the price tag of $12.95 was such that it would
discourage mere curiosity seekers.
At any rate, it's wonderful to see that you two were inspired enough to
continue -- my main intent for working on the project. So far, the
book has been a roaring success. Since publication in late 1989 over
300,000 copies have been sold. It's the fourth most popular book that
Klutz Press has produced. With Martin Gardner I just recently finished
work on another forthcoming book for Klutz on "fun with science".
Should be out in the next few months.
I agree with your comment about about magical fiction. If you can find
it (it's long been out of print) you'll enjoy the Paul Gallico fantasy
novel _The Man Who Was Magic_. It's about a world where magicians live
together in one community. In stumbles a naive young man who REALLY
does magic and doesn't realize that the other members of the community
are using trick methods. Conversely the tricksters can't figure out
the young man's "methods"! Get the book if you can. Also I would
recommend Jack Vance's story which is called, if I recall correctly
_Three Gold Rings_. There's a hilarious scene where the "hero" tries
to entertain an alien audience with simplistic magic. A telling tale
about how dorky magicians can underestimate their spectators. Very
hard to locate, but worth finding is Bruce Ellott's novella "So Sweet
as Magic . . ." which originally appeared in _Fantasy Fiction_ for
August 1953. This is the same Bruce Elliott who edited _The Phoenix_,
of course. In this case the hero -- a professional magician --
stumbles into a world where magic is real. There's a visit to
Tannen's, and Charlier, Dai Vernon, and even the author appear as
characters. A great romp. It was reprinted in the early 1970s in a
collection, but the whole edition had a blank page in the midst of the
story. I can't recall that it's appeared anywhere else. Perhaps you
could get it from a used magazine dealer.
Msg #5667 Dated 19:46:55 01-19-91 5650 <-
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: COINS
Thanks Max for checking it out. Actually the message was intended for
the tabman, but it worked out well.
Msg #5668 Dated 19:47:49 01-19-91 5665 <--> 5675
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CHECKING ON YOU
Speechless? You speechless! I thought that would never happen. Great.
Msg #5669 Dated 20:57:52 01-19-91 -> 5684
From: JIM SISTI
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: ASCENSION TRANSPOSITION
Max...I seem to recall a different handling of your "Ascension" from
somewhere and I believe it was called "Ascension Transposition." Any
information? I can't remember the source. Thought you could help.
Thanks.
Msg #5670 Dated 20:59:54 01-19-91 5502 <--> 5671
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
CONFIRMED...unless by some slim chance I'm still in production.
Msg #5671 Dated 21:02:03 01-19-91 5551 <--> 5682
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
WHOA!!! WAIT JUST A MINUTE HERE!!!
You mean Darrell is NOT springing for lunch?????
CANCEL MY RESERVATION!!!
...
(heh heh heh)
Msg #5672 Dated 21:17:50 01-19-91 5645 <--> 5689
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: DEALER WARNING
You betcha.
I haven't received a reply from them yet. The Amex people are handling
it for me.
I did receive Rabbit-In-The-Hat Ranch's latest mailer today.
It went directly into the "cylindrical file."
Too bad...there were several items I would've ordered.
Msg #5673 Dated 21:21:48 01-19-91
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: ALL
Re: WHEW!
I've heard it said by Pete Biro and others...but I've gotta say it,
too...
You don't log on for a couple of days and...WHEW!...the messages are
seemingly endless!!!
I must say that it is a pleasurable labor to read through them and
catch up on all of you.
I'm immersed in another busy cycle and what little free time I've had
has been spent glued to CNN...
...
The time, place and moustache may be different, but the personified
evil is the same!
...
Here's a tidbit for you...
I do know for a fact that General Norman Schwarzkopf is a devoted magic
hobbyist. Let's hope that "Stormin' Norman" can work some major mojo
and make that meglomaniacal sonovabitch vanish and bring our men and
women home safely and soon.
...
!!!
...
Msg #5674 Dated 22:34:00 01-19-91 -> 5685
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SLATES
I appreciated your contribution to Eugene Burger's SPIRIT
THEATER. I've been perusing same tonight and would appreciate it
if you could identify those handsome slates Burger is holding in
the photo found at page 127. They appear to be of African or
Honduran mahogany and beautifully constructed. Are they of Thayer
manufacture?
Msg #5675 Dated 22:35:15 01-19-91 5668 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: CHECKING ON YOU
But not forever!!
Msg #5677 Dated 23:34:48 01-19-91 5663 <--> 5690
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STOP BITS
I know that there are organizations that place other types of books in
libraries, usually in college libraries. But maybe we can put this
idea on some list. We select a beginner's list from your topbooks
list. Maybe find some way to get publishers to do a deal. Get 'em out
to the libraries. Maybe even put bookplates with MAGIC!'s phone number
in 'em...
I was lucky as a kid. We had a large house with a basement that was
almost all mine. Had a toyroom, a room for model train, one for
experiments, and a "clubhouse" for meetings and stuff. Never did think
of turning it into a town, but we did do the magic show. Also once
started a bank (with a partner who I think was about 10 years old). We
did pretty well on deposits (had about $1.25 that we extracted from
other kids), but never could figure out how we were supposed to make
money on it. So we didn't pay interest and the other kids got
disgusted and did a "run" on the bank. Geez, if only we'd been doing
it now -- we coulda kept the money and appealed to the FDIC or FSLIC or
one of them things.
Believe me, Tabman, our thoughts are with you and Gloria.
Msg #5682 Dated 0:54:45 01-20-91 5660 <--> 5792
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
Splendid Idea "Watson"...I would be willing to chip in for Darrells
bowl of chili. I really think he has done a great job of organizing
this too. Thanks Darrell!!
Msg #5683 Dated 1:58:12 01-20-91 5664 <--> 5695
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BOOKS
what?
Msg #5684 Dated 2:29:59 01-20-91 5669 <-
From: MAX MAVEN
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: ASCENSION TRANSPOSITION
Sorry. I know there have been some variations, but can't place where.
Msg #5685 Dated 2:31:55 01-20-91 5674 <-
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SLATES
I doubt it. Possibly more recent, from Owen's.
Msg #5686 Dated 2:32:38 01-20-91 -> 5699
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LR ARTICLE
You recently asked what I thought of the article about Annemann which
appeared in the latest Linking Ring. Just got to it today. I think it's
drivel.
Msg #5688 Dated 7:57:35 01-20-91 5641 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: UNBROKEN THREADS
Thanks for the good advice!
Msg #5689 Dated 8:01:05 01-20-91 5645 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: DEALER WARNING
That's very true. I have talked to others who agree with me that just
about any time we have trouble receiving a refund through the mail in
similar circumstances we have paid by check and not credit card.
Usually a business will wait until your check clears before mailing out
the merchandise and it's like pulling teeth if you have any trouble.
Credit card companies can simply "charge back" items that are disputed.
The merchant is debited the amount and the customer, assuming he
prevails in the dispute, is credited the amount on their next bill.
Msg #5690 Dated 8:22:45 01-20-91 5677 <--> 5693
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: STOP BITS
I like the bookplate idea. Been wanting to have a magical
bookplate designed for TOPH Library. I've got a book from Sid
Lorraine's wonderful collection and his bookplate is great. I'll
send you a copy tomorrow. Maybe instead of the phone ## of MAGIC!
we could put the mail address to make it a two step process to
gain information.
Don't know if hardcover "Amateur Magicians Handbook" are
available anymore, but itz one of my faves. The Bruce Elliott
classics perhaps my most fave with "Magic As A Hobby" right up
there. An all round book (does one exist) with a little of
everything would be good for one horse librarys. Would be
interesting to note the areas (states, countries) where magic as
a hobby (profession) is strongest.
Know that Holland has made more than itz share of magi
per square mile. Used to think that cold winters and snow bred
magicians since its primarily an indoor activity but So.
California may disprove that, but look at areas like NYC,
Tokyo, Buffalo, Toronto, Seattle, West (By God) Virginia,
Baltimore, Chicago. May just be that So. Cal. is "melting pot".
Even MAGIC! is located on the left coast with callers from cold
climes.
There is at least one noted magic illustrator here online
and are perhaps others on here but laying low. Maybe you can scan
the copy of bookplate I'm sending over and pop it up. There may
be others who're interested in this sorta thing. I'll try to
remember to make a sharp copy to send out with the one I just
made. I could go for a custom bookplate myself.
Seems like in my reading I ran across a reference to a
small booklet that someone put out years ago with examples of
magicians bookplates init, but for the life of me I can't
remember where I read it. Sphinx maybe, or an elderly GENII.
Always like looking back at Leo. Rullman's book ads in the old
mags. Autographed "Miracle Mongers...." for $4.50....I'll take
one....tabman
Msg #5691 Dated 8:23:01 01-20-91 -> 5700
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KATO'S CARD HAPPENING
I was up in the Castle library last night and I had made a note to
myself to look up the September 1969 issue of Genii to read about
Kato's Card Happening. I think it was you that referred to it.
Wouldn't you know someone had taken just those pages out!?
There is a free copy machine not even two feet away! AAARRGHH!!
Any chance of that being reproduced here on line? At least someone
couldn't steal it then.
Msg #5692 Dated 8:27:13 01-20-91 -> 5725
From: STAN LAKE
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: SHOW
Enjoyed seeing you perform last night at the Castle. I liked the way
you wove psychology and magic together to create the illusions. And,
for someone who doesn't do sleight o' hand, your obligatory card trick
was very well done!
Msg #5693 Dated 8:32:21 01-20-91 5690 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STOP BITS
Thanks for the idea with the bookplate. Will look forward to receiving
it and will scan it for the MAGIC! members. Will have to figure out
what file category it is.
Maybe if some folks get a chance, they can check the card catalog at
their local library and let us know what they find (for this purpose,
the Castle library is NOT to be considered a "local library"). Data
might give us some idea of what libraries normally have regarding magic
these days.
Toynbee (I think) argued that civilization began in cold climates. I
believe he thought that "one could not think in a warm climate." He
was finally persuaded to spend a winter in Florida as a visiting
professor, and, I believe, modified his views. But you do have an
interesting theory there.
Msg #5695 Dated 11:03:12 01-20-91 5683 <--> 5701
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOKS
What=Creamed Chip Beef on doughnuts!
Msg #5696 Dated 12:14:09 01-20-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: NEW MESSAGE FILES
DOUBLE FEATURE!
The tenth and eleventh sets of MAGIC! messages - #4500 (Dec. 31,
1990) to #4999 (Jan. 8, 1991) and #5000 (Jan. 8, 1991) to #5499
(Jan. 16, 1991) have been transfered to downloadable files. The
files are named MAGIC-10.TXT and MAGIC-11.TXT. This means that you
can now go to the file area, download these files, and read the
tenth and eleventh volumes of messages off-line. For those who know
how to use the PKUNZIP system for uncompressing files, there are
compressed versions of these same files. They are called
MAGIC-10.ZIP and MAGIC-11.ZIP and are about 1/2 the size of the
full-text version.
These sets of messages includes several interesting effects, and the
first three KAPS letters (2 in #10, 1 in #11). There is, of course,
also a lot of magic news and chit-chat. Not only will transfering
these messages to files make it easier for you to obtain a complete
set of them, but it will make the search for new messages easier and
faster.
Msg #5698 Dated 12:49:16 01-20-91 -> 5702
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TAP CITY
Pete - somehow you never read message #4793 addressed to you. The
topic was "Tap City," a discussion of telephones. You can use the Back
command on this message to read it.
Msg #5699 Dated 13:05:21 01-20-91 5686 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: LR ARTICLE
As the Raider Coach said... No, actually I concur on the article. The
guy writing it seemed more interested in sounding like an expert than
saying anything... Adios Max-San
Msg #5700 Dated 13:07:20 01-20-91 5691 <--> 5739
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: KATO'S CARD HAPPENING
If we can catch the guy we should get Kato to use his "real" Happenng
move... a Karate Chop to the left side of his brain!!
Msg #5701 Dated 13:08:21 01-20-91 5695 <--> 5705
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BOOKS
Bass Solo
Msg #5702 Dated 13:09:33 01-20-91 5698 <--> 5708
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: TAP CITY
Got to run, but will check the msg later. Am near DEATH as the Raiders
forgot to show up for the game.
Msg #5705 Dated 17:20:01 01-20-91 5701 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOKS
No drums
Msg #5706 Dated 17:20:14 01-20-91 -> 5965
From: TABBY CRABB
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: FORKS
Ray called Obie so will maybe see you at Forks for FFFF depending
now on Desert Storm with which we now ride...Congrats to Buffalo Bills
and Jim Kelley.....next Sunday I guess.
Msg #5707 Dated 17:28:28 01-20-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: SAND FRAME
Just found an old sand frame. It is wood frame covered in
burgundy leatherlike cloth. It is small approx 4x5 and appears to
be of German origin. Brass around inside edge of frame on outside
of glass. Anybody ever seen one similar??
Msg #5708 Dated 17:29:11 01-20-91 5702 <--> 5710
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TAP CITY
Sorry bout Raiders this year. Was hoping to see better from Schraeder
since following career from Redskins and shabby treatment he got here.
Maybe next year!!2
Msg #5709 Dated 18:42:19 01-20-91 -> 5712
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: FACEUP
Here is neat little four Ace deal that you close-up card workers may
enjoy. I like it, and always gets a good reaction....
Geno Munari's Middle Deal for Magicians
A Gambling Demonstration - All Rights Reserved
This is a beautiful pseudo middle deal that uses a clever second
deal to create the illusion of an impecable middle deal
demonstartion. A real eye popper which will soon garner a good
reputation for your knowledge of gambling sleights.
Effect: The four aces are placed face up in the deck and seemingly
lost in the middle of the pack. The dealer deals out seven hands
of poker, including himself, and the four aces are visibly dealt
from the pack to the desired hand.
Secret: Riffle 14 cards from the left thumb and place the first
ace face up, under the 14 cards. Rifle another six cards and place
the next ace. Continue this process for the remaining aces. Show
the aces in the middle of the deck (fig. 2). Deal out seven cards
as in figure 3, and stop and say, "Oh, I forgot to ask you which
hand you would like the aces?" This action helps remove the first
seven cards from the top of the deck. The aces are now in dealing
position to be placed in any desired hand. There is exactly
another seven cards on top of the aces.
If the spectator request the aces to be in the third hand from the
left, you must remove four cards. This put the aces in position to
be placed in the third hand. I use the pretext that, "Here, look
at the backs of the cards and see that they are not marked." I
then deal off four cards. The spectator will look at them and
then I replace them on the bottom of the pack. Now simply deal
the card to the first and secon hands. Stop on the third hand
showing very slowly that the ace is not on the top or bottom, and
very slowly second deal the face up ace from the deck and continue
in sequence until all four aces are dealt out of the pack.
Hope you all enjoy it.
Msg #5710 Dated 20:35:59 01-20-91 5702 <--> 5716
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TAP CITY
Maybe they forgot to set their alarm clocks. I guess that means that
someone else will be playing in the SuperBowl?
Msg #5712 Dated 20:40:37 01-20-91 5709 <--> 5740
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FACEUP
Thanks, Geno! Great contribution. I will be sending you the material
I promised soon.
Msg #5714 Dated 21:37:43 01-20-91
From: RON MARTIN
To: ALL
Re: BROOM SUSPENTIO
Hi everyone:
I am calling from Windsor ontario Canada... and am looking for a good
Broom Suspention illusion ... for apx $1500.00 where can I get one.
Msg #5716 Dated 21:51:23 01-20-91 5708 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TAP CITY
Raiders? Who? Wha? Drum roll, fade to black sans
sil*6. u ?-L-2e {a - - -silver. - - - - -dO hoh line noise crazy
screen activity hope ok... it stopped. Mussa been a SCUD
Msg #5720 Dated 0:16:50 01-21-91 -> 5748
From: EVAN KATZ
To: ALL
Re: CSB ROUTINES
Here 's a tough one, sure to generate some disagreement and discussion.
I pose this question -- What is the best Copper, Silver, Brass routine
out there? By "best," I mean the most obvious criteria -- impact of
effect. I nominate John Bannon's routine, recently published in his
Lecture Notes. It avoids some of the repetition of the standard CSB
routines, substitutes some simple sleights for previously more awkward
moves... in all, excellent... I though CSB routines would be an
interesting area to pose this question for, as the literature is at
least *somewhat* limited. Also, because of the nature of the
apparatus, there are less likely to be great routines out there that
require such a high degree of skill that most of us are more likely to
read the routines that perform them. Well, any nominations?
Msg #5725 Dated 2:02:56 01-21-91 5692 <--> 5764
From: T A WATERS
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SHOW
Thanks for the kind words; it's always nice to hear.
Msg #5728 Dated 8:25:10 01-21-91 -> 5738
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: LUNCH
Darrell...
Better count me out for fridays lunch as I feel the need
to stick close to home right now. I'll hold my ticket for the
next one or use it for the Desert Seminar. I'll be thinking about
everyone around lunchtime friday and wishing I could be there for
the first MAGIC! gathering and looking forward to a full report
online sometime friday night.
.....tabman.
sg #5729 Dated 8:26:03 01-21-91 -> 5750
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
At the mention of Annemann recently in the IBM Journal
(don't get; SAM member only) and the subsequent responses here
online I wonder if I might inquire as to the author of the
article.
Annemann's inability to deal with his own failures leaves
me saddened (and frightened). I've devoured every bit of
information over the years I've found in reference to this
brilliant and beleaguered man. Genii mentioned that one Max
Abrams (I know him only from his book reviews, etc) was compiling
the definative work on Ted Annemann and that it would be released
at some point soon.
Seems I remember reading (maybe in the bird) that
Annemann sent a postcard to someone that was postmarked after his
death. Does this card exist in a collection someplace?
Msg #5730 Dated 8:26:58 01-21-91 -> 5745
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICHARD STREET (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY MAGIC
Can you find out what events magical have been slated for
late 1991 or early 1992 there in music city? Here are my thoughts
thus far on the conclave:
Event runs from friday night to sunday afternoon.
Friday: 10pm opening night lecture and hanging
out late.
Saturday: two lectures and two attendee shows
midnight - spirit/mental lecture/programme
Sunday: lecture
brunch
Keep hospitality suite open early and late.
Keep the emphasis on "intimate" and parlour magic.
Have at least one "heady" lecturer in addition to
lecturers who stress the teaching of effects, etc.
Lecturers booked will be Class A.
Convince the hotel to book a great bar magician for the
weekend who can work the hotel bar and provide a
magical atmosphere for the venue.
Perhaps limit general dealer participation to a minimum
to give the lecturers maximum opportunity.
Gimme some feedback and your thoughts. We're gonna do it....
Msg #5731 Dated 8:28:04 01-21-91 -> 5755
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY MAGIC
Rikker ->
Any chance of finding out if anything is scheduled for
Atlanta as per msg to Richard above. Any thoughts you have along
these lines will be most appreciated..
Msg #5732 Dated 8:55:32 01-21-91 -> 5756
From: RICK RUHL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY MAGIC
I just did a dmup of the messages, I'll re-read them and give you an
answer in a bit.
Got to see David Copperfield(Kotkin?) Saturday night. Didn't get a
chance to speak with him, but he did do his dancing tissue 4 ft from
me. IT was very good. I did seem to see, when he lit the flash paper,
I though I saw the 'fire' follow to his belt. Don;t know if this is the
method he was using, but it would seem that to have something that
thin, it wouldn't be very stiff.
Anyway, he seemed during his act to be having the time of his life.
Very enjoyable.
Rick
Msg #5737 Dated 9:37:34 01-21-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: WEXLAM
Pray to the west.
Msg #5738 Dated 10:43:06 01-21-91 5728 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LUNCH
Sorry to hear that the Tabman isn't going to be at the MAGIC! Luncheon
but but I understand and will keep you and yours in my prayers.
Msg #5739 Dated 10:56:39 01-21-91 5700 <--> 5758
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KATO'S CARD HAPPENING
A Karate Chop to the left side of his brain? You can't hurt something
that's not there!
Msg #5740 Dated 11:03:21 01-21-91 5709 <--> 5759
From: STAN LAKE
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FACEUP
Sounds terrific Geno, but what is the technique used to riffle down
exactly 14 cards? Do you mentally count them as you riffle them singly
with your thumb? I recently saw a lecture by Richard Turner where by
the sense of touch alone he could cut off any desired number of cards
but I don't have an extra 10 years to devote to acquiring that skill!
I notice that when I riffle the cards they do not always fall singly
and if I don't look at them I can't accurately count them. Nice effect
though. Is it one you came up with?
Msg #5742 Dated 11:14:37 01-21-91
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: ALL
Re: KENT CUMMINS
So Kent, I understand you read these messages. . .
Hello to you!
Whose shoulder are you reading over!!
Msg #5744 Dated 11:35:29 01-21-91 -> 5761
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC LUNCH
I signed up for the lunch sooo long ago, I don't know if it's necessary
to confirm . But I plan on being there. Several regulars at the
Castle Friday lunch have expressed an interest in maybe going this
Friday to MAGIC. Can they just stop-by, or what's your pleasure?
Msg #5745 Dated 12:24:05 01-21-91 5730 <--> 5918
From: RICK RUHL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY MAGIC
Ok I'll check with the Atlanta stores, only thing that used to go on
here was a conclave in Oct. Don'
t know if they do that anymore.
on other subjects:
After seeing David's version of the shadow box, I'm dertemined to build
a smaller version for moi. Instead of being on a Harley, I could just
be on a tri-cycle.
Msg #5748 Dated 16:53:29 01-21-91 5720 <--> 5749
From: JIM SISTI
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: CSB ROUTINES
Check out J.C. Wagner's routine with a gaffed set in "The Commercial
Magic of J.C. Wagner" by Mike Maxwell. In fact, J.C. wrote the
instructions that come with the Johnson C/S/B set. Also, Derek Dingle
has a great handling of the gaffed set in "The Complete Works of Derek
Dingle" by Richard Kaufman. Hope t helps!
Msg #5749 Dated 17:12:36 01-21-91 5748 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CSB ROUTINES
Didn't know that J.C. Wagner wrote those instructions but
think that the routine supplied with the coins is a good basic
one as are the props from Johnson. I've always appreciated the
quality of their work. I bought years ago a quarter shell which
at that time were mfg from two coins. Well it came apart and when
I returned it to them after 4 years Tina kindly supplied me with
the latest in expanded shells. Don't know if owning half their
catalog had anything to do with it, but bought most of their
stuff years before. Misplaced about half on move to Maryland but
presume it will resurface when we make (when I don't know now)
the move south. Best wishes.....tman..
Msg #5750 Dated 17:24:45 01-21-91 5729 <--> 5782
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
Reportedly, he sent out more than one postcard telling the recipient to
check the newspapers. These arrived a day or so after he'd committed
suicide, the indication being that he'd planned ahead.
Max Abrams has compiled a wealth of information about Annemann, and
has an interesting biographical slide lecture. I've no idea when his
book will appear; it's been in the planning stages for years. Until it
is published, probably the most thorough information in a single place
on this subject is the Leslie May "To A Memory" bio, which appeared
serially in the _New Jinx_ a couple of decades back (and can be
found in the single-volume reprint of that magazine from Kaufman &
Greenberg).
There have been sporadic articles in various places which contain
information not found in the May series, notably Jay Marshall's
recollections in the _New Phoenix_ and W. L. Gresham's magazine piece
contained in his "Monster Midway" book.
Then, of course, there is much information that has never appeared
in print...
Msg #5751 Dated 19:55:32 01-21-91 5602 <--> 5774
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DOWNLOAD
I used XMODEM.
Msg #5753 Dated 20:40:39 01-21-91
From: KEVIN O'MALLEY
To: ALL
Re: NORM NIELSON BIRD CAGE
I am interested in selling my cage. I have owned it for about 4 years
and only used it for a minimal time while working some night clubs. It
is in great shape; in fact, it looks new. I paid $1800.00 for it and
understand they are over $2000.00 now. Mine does not have casters as
his new ones do. If you are interested, please leave me a message here
or call or write me at 2401 35th, Lubbock, Tx 79412 (806) 797-5111. If
get a answering machine, please leave message and I will return your
call. I will sell for $950.00. KEVIN O'MALLEY
Msg #5755 Dated 21:05:53 01-21-91 5731 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY MAGIC
Don't forget the strolling close up drummers. And the BAss Soloists.
Hope all is good on YOUR FRONT!! Hang in... I am so far behind in
everything I can't even hardly thinque straight right now... be in
touch El Tab. (Do you know of Professor El Tab?) Busby will fill you
in if you ask...
Msg #5756 Dated 21:07:33 01-21-91 5732 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY MAGIC
Son of a gun... you noticed THE ONE AND ONLY IMPORTANT PART OF
PERFORMING.... "HAVING THE TIME OF HIS LIFE"
Msg #5758 Dated 21:11:05 01-21-91 5739 <--> 5769
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: KATO'S CARD HAPPENING
Well his brain is probably between his legs!
Msg #5759 Dated 21:11:31 01-21-91 5740 <--> 5865
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FACEUP
If yu can't devote ten years to a move then you don't deserve to do it.
(I am serious) Think about it. You know you see guys do some things
flawlessly, like Frank Shields when he did the top change. I asked him
how long he practiced it. He said, "Every morning when I woke up, for
at least ten years I did a half hour on that one move"
Msg #5761 Dated 21:14:13 01-21-91 5744 <--> 5790
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MAGIC LUNCH
Your food is probably stale by now!
Msg #5764 Dated 21:22:47 01-21-91 5692 <--> 5776
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SHOW
Stan,
Wish I had known you were there last night. I too saw the show, I was
a volunteer(victim) that had to pick the chapter from the astrology
book for the selected word, I still can't pronounce the word nor do I
know what it means, but the show was good.
Msg #5766 Dated 22:11:05 01-21-91
From: HOBO JIM
To: ALL
Re: NEW MEMBER
Hi I am a new member. If there are any clowns /magicians? on the line
,please leave a note.
Msg #5769 Dated 23:45:23 01-21-91 5691 <--> 5804
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: KATO'S CARD HAPPENING
There will be "reproduced" pages inserted in the library at the castle
as Genii magazine only has two copies(one being bound) in the archives.
Someone/people have the gall to rip out pages when yes, there is a copy
machine two feet away. We can't even put copies of the Steranko issue
('65 ?) because some idiot takes copies! geez. Bill Pol the librarian
called for the issue today and due to this misfortune all must suffice
with "copies of torn pages". tsk tsk.
Msg #5774 Dated 0:06:42 01-22-91 5751 <--> 5919
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: DOWNLOAD
OK. There are, however, TWO XModems! We support both. If you have
old software it probably uses something called "XModem Checksum" which
we call "XModem." Newer stuff tend to use "XModem CRC" which we call
"CXModem." But the program got to you, and your system should have
known that, even if it didn't tell us. Is it on your disk at all?
Also, remember that the program is compressed, using something called
"SIT" that is apparently a Mac item.
Msg #5776 Dated 0:10:52 01-22-91 5764 <--> 5818
From: T A WATERS
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: SHOW
It means to be someone who abstains -- usually from a bad habit such as
liquor, etc. -- the word being ABSTEMIOUS.
Msg #5781 Dated 0:39:11 01-22-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: KAPS LETTER #4
LETTER #4 FROM FRED KAPS TO PETE BIRO
These letters and the related Fred Kaps material that he choses to
publish on MAGIC! will remain the personal property of Pete Biro,
Copyright 1991 by Pete Biro, All rights reserved.
NOTE: All letters are "verbatim" as written, remember English was
not Fred's native language! Any comments or clarifications by
the editor are enclosed in << >>.
<>
20 June 1974
Pete,
Pity you did not make it to Monte Carlo because we really had a
ball! Can you imagine: a beautiful house in the mountains,
sunshine,heated swimming pool in front of you, wonderful people
as host and Mike Skinner, Freddy Fah and myself going through all
the moves for 8 days!!!!
It was great!! Have to fly back again to do a special show
for a party at the Palace of Prince Rainier and Princess Grace
(Kelly) on the 27th of July! Some Honour!
Hans and Chelly Trixer just left for Salisbury <>
again. Spent a wonderful day on our boat and again had a fine
session.
Got two letters from Ken <> and he is much better
now. Seems he pulled himself together and he even promised me to
come over for a weekend in the near future! I hope he does it
soon it will do him good.
Changed my routine with the Keycase <> again
and I think this routine is for keeps! Fooled everybody with it.
Show it to you in Boston. <>
Got a letter from Scotty <>, and after the Boston
Convention I am flying to Washington on the evening of Sunday the
7th. do a lecture on the 9th and fly back on the 11th. Care to
Join? <>
I am really looking forward to meet you, Jay, David Roth,
Pate Page and all the others again in Boston.
Hope Johnny Thompson and Persi <> also will make
it to Boston.
Well Pete, this is all for now, nothing else to tell you and
so: All the very best untill I see you in boston!
(signed) Fred-
Msg #5782 Dated 1:59:18 01-22-91 5750 <--> 5785
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
I do wish that Max Abrams would get it together and fill the vacuum of
missing info on Anneman.
Leslie May's "To A Memory" series was well-intended but much too much
so...to the point of being syrup-through-rose-colored-glasses.
I would like to see a biography of Anneman and an ajoining history of
the times written with the same sort of integrity that made Anneman
worth reading and would certainly make Anneman worth reading about!
---
(By the way, "Syrup-Through-Rose-Colored-Glasses" would be a wonderful
effect...any ideas?)
Msg #5783 Dated 2:09:51 01-22-91 -> 5808
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: ALL
Re: AHHH..YES!
Just got home from the Castle...
Gary Kurtz is a must-see...
...he's also a nice guy and Kaufman's book is a winner, too!
Y'know, the smog doesn't seem so bad at all when you think about how
nice it is to be able to spend an impromptu evening at the Magic Castle
whenever you feel like it.
This evening, I spent a great deal of time with a few decks of cards
and Larry Jennings. As the evening progressed, we moved from bar to
bar...and the tricks and moves got more and more sensational. There
are a number of world-class cardmen who pass through the portals of the
Magic Castle, but for my money, Jennings is one of the truly all-time
greats. Larry had Kurtz and I ready and willing to build an altar!
Anyway, I digress...
Get to the Castle and treat yourself to twenty minutes of really
entertaining magic with Gary Kurtz in the Parlour...(early). He
performs a signed card "time travel" routine that is one of my very
favorites. I could go on and on...but I will spare you all my rambling
s if you promise to get your derriers into the Castle Parlour this
week!
Msg #5784 Dated 6:41:45 01-22-91 -> 5789
From: RICK RUHL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
Yes, that is the most m-*ortant part of performing, when I was doing
radio and magic as extra cash, I had the time of my life, but had to
get out for the lack of money I was bringing in. Now that I look
back, I was going about the magic in the wrong way. It's so hard
to 'have the time of your life' in a 9 to 5 job. You know, what it
boils
down to is that David is doing what he wants and making big money at
it. If you can do what you enjoy for a living then the pleasure is
much greater.
I need to find a good one-man levataion that I can build, do you (or
anyone)
have any suggestions? I'd like to levatate my wife.
Rikker
Msg #5785 Dated 6:48:54 01-22-91 5750 <--> 5803
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
- Someone suggested that at least one of the postcards was
postmarked after his death possibly because he dropped them into
a postal box with a late collection that day. Unfortunate because
I believe Max Holden had offered Ted a desk and a publishing deal
for a "new" Annemann book.
- Annemann's nervous pacing and apparant fear before
performing "his" bullet catch were quite real because unlike
Chung Ling Soo the danger was actually within inches. After
discovering Annemann's method (which I understand he got from
Orville Meyer) I have become perplexed even more and wonder why a
man who could face death on such a realistic level could not face
a "come back".
"Time, like trouble in the hearts of men, marches on."
- While I don't completely understand why he chose to take
his own life, I do understand his frustration and fear. While I'm
not sure if I would have wanted to live during his particular
era, I would have liked to have known Ted Annemann.
- I was looking forward to enjoying your show thursday
night before the MAGIC! luncheon on friday, but world events
force me to put some of my pleasure on the back burner for the
time being, however hope all is proceeding well for you...tman
Msg #5789 Dated 10:12:46 01-22-91 5784 <--> 5809
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
Do what you love and money will follow, but it doesn't
say how far behind it trails. I liked the way Steve Stills said
it better tho, "If you can't be with the one you love, love the
one you're with."
Do you have access to The Encyclopedia of Suspensions and
Levitations by Armstrong? The material is somewhat dated, however
several of the methods of suspension are in common use today. The
major development in the past quarter has been the Walter Blaney
Hoop which is only available from Walter, however it isn't
necessary unless you can afford one.
Paul Osborne has a couple of good ideas in his Illusion
Builders series. You should order Paul's catalog (address in
Genii). His plans are quite good. I think his catalog is six
bucks or so, but you need it for the illustrations and
descriptives.
Self levitaion hsa been documented by Christian Fechner
but at over 6 hundred bucks for his book and plans its a tad out
of my price range. I'll have to wait til I'm rich and pay a
coupla thou to some tapped out magic buff for his copy. Can you
believe copies of Greater magic were 10 bucks when I was in high
school and didn't have two bucks let alone ten.
Tarbell has some ideas in one of his books too. They're
upstairs so you'd have to check the index for that info as I'm
not moving off this saw horse til I send this up and get back to
the warm part of the house.
Do you have a workshop? I grew up in a boat shop. My toys
were bandsaws and scraps from mahogany decking for speed boats.
The shop here is small and in the boiler room - about 20x20. The
shop in Tennessee will be larger hopefully taking up most of one
barn but I built some of my favorite stuff using a skil saw and a
cheap drill, etc in the backyard.
Bill Smith's Magic Ventures out on the left coast was
great when I visited there last febuary. Bill uses some
innovative cabnitry techniques in his prop building. His massive
table saw takes up most of the central area of the shop itself.
Fortunately he had a high ceiling cause he had stuff stacked to
the rafters. He was building a hangman for Reveen when I was
there then he and wife were going to Japan (or was it Australia I
forget) to assist in the show. What a life. Gigi used to work for
Blackstone Jr. as I believe did Bill also.....later...tabman.
Msg #5790 Dated 10:08:56 01-22-91 5744 <--> 5794
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MAGIC LUNCH
I have you on my reservation list so you have a chair. I currently have
13 people signed up of which two people Geno Munari and Tabby Crabb at
TENATIVE RESERVATIONS. Tabby sent me a message the other day saying
that he did'nt think he was going to make it so I have left that spot
open for extra's. I told the CASTLE that we would have no more than 18
people because then you get into banquet scheduling and all that. If
your friends are coming give me thier names and I will stick them on
the Tentative Reservation
Schedule.
sg #5792 Dated 10:24:02 01-22-91 5682 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON UPDATE
No problem guys. Actually it has been kind of fun. We currently have
about 13 people signed up to come to the luncheon. Not a large crowd
but not bad for a first attempt.
Msg #5793 Dated 10:32:35 01-22-91
From: MICHAEL OVERLY
To: ALL
Re: IMAGICACIAN
Does anyone know anything about the book Imagicacian by T.G. Murphy.
I have seen it advertised several times, but I really haven't heard
much about it. I am also unfamiliar with the author, T.G. Murphy.
Does anyone have any information on him?
Msg #5794 Dated 10:37:37 01-22-91 5761 <--> 5811
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC LUNCH
Stale, just like home. Just like the guy goes into a restruant amd
orders eggs sloppy and toast burnt. Gel asks why? He says 'cause I'm
homesick. Should read Gal asks why? Yeh it's old, but I'm getting
there too. Just had the big 62 Jan 20. Kids and grandkids came to
visit, lots of noise. Love to see them, but it's sure not so noisy
after they leave. I'm new to magic, even newer to computers, that is
the using of them. Have met David, and looking forward to the lunch
Friday. Hope you make it.
Msg #5795 Dated 12:15:53 01-22-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: HI/MAGS
Charlie,
Looking for a coupla magazines that you had on your #2 list
and hope nobody boughtem yet....
Pallbearers Vol 10, ## 7,8,9
Hugard's any Vol 1-5
I found a copy of Roth Coin Book and, Burger's Experience of
Magic is both insightful and prophetic as you suggested. Hope
things are "cool" down in Houston town...tman.
Msg #5803 Dated 16:40:48 01-22-91 5785 <--> 5807
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
My favorite apocryphal story about Annemann's suicide is one that
students of the life of the remarkable Theodore John Squires seem to
have missed. It appeared in the _Linking Ring_ five years ago in an
article on the history of _The Sphinx_. The author of the article
strongly implies that William J. "Big Bill" Hilliar's (first editor of
_The Sphinx_) suicide inspired Annemann's own. Of course, the author
of the article neglects to mention that Hilliar died of a
self-inflicted gunshot wound; Annemann by gassing himself. He also
somehow forgets to mention that Annemann suicided in 1942, some SIX
YEARS after Hilliar killed himself. If "[Hilliar's] tragedy had an
effect on Ted Annemann" -- as our writer asserts -- it must have been
a mighty slim one for Annemann to have waited for so long!
The author of the article? None other than that "legendary" magical
"historian" who calls himself "Dr." John Booth. Great Sunday
supplement stuff, but neither scholarly nor historically sound. Has
anybody in the Los Angeles area taken the time to check out the
assertion in his latest book (touted in his advertising) that Harry
Kellar's ashes were stolen or switched? Rosedale Cemetery makes no
bones (pun) about exactly where Booth's story is full of holes (pun).
Or how about his Cardini story? Anybody checked that out? I have, and
much more. Results in print soon, guys.
What happened to the fellow who logged on who said he was both a
magician and Booth's postman? If he's still on-line, perhaps he can
have "Dr." Booth reply?
Msg #5804 Dated 17:09:44 01-22-91 5769 <--> 5817
From: PETE BIRO
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: KATO'S CARD HAPPENING
My thought on this. If anyone has this issue at home and would part
with it and send it to the Castle for the Library, 'twould be a nice
gesture onthe part of MAGIC!
Msg #5807 Dated 17:17:29 01-22-91 5803 <--> 5836
From: PETE BIRO
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
If he REALLY works for the PO, you must realize the pace at which they
work!
Msg #5808 Dated 17:18:24 01-22-91 5783 <--> 5825
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: AHHH..YES!
Am here in the socal area and didn't bring Castle Garb! Missed Jay Leno
by forgetting which night he was working the Magic Club in Hermosa and
now the flu has me buggerred...
Msg #5809 Dated 17:19:39 01-22-91 5784 <--> 5810
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
Well, it is against my principals, but you could build the Harbin Chari
Suspension. There are TWO RIPOFFS being advetised in Genii etc.,
currently. Error above: CHARI SHOULD BE CHAIR.
If you ever saw Harbin present this you would realise what a great
effect it is. But it has to be built right and PRESENTED right. The
REAL presentation is in the Harbin book. If you have the book, then you
can, without fear of a curse, build and do the effect.
If you got lots of bucks get the good version from Walter Zaney Blaney
using the ladders.
Again... IT IS ALL IN THE PRESENTATION!!! Harbin (I hired him to
perform some shows so I could spend time with him, watch him do the
effect and learn it from him) in fact only had the subject in
LEVITATION STATE for 3 SECONDS. THREE SECONDS. But it was Killer in
his hands. Just like the Zig Zag. I have NEVER SEEN ANYONE do the Zig
Zag correctly. They way Harbin did it and how it is WORD FOR WORK, MOVE
FOR MOVE in his book has BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED BY EVERY PERFORMER
THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN DO IT.
Msg #5810 Dated 17:25:02 01-22-91 5789 <--> 5812
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
Grant has a book on levitations that costs only a few bucks. The tricks
can be built for a few bucks too... It depends on the set up and how
elaborate anyone wants to go.
My fave is his self levi with a shopping bag. Andre Kole has a killer
version of that where he has a box around him and he lifts the box up
(it is bottomless) and there are no feet showing below. Boy I would
KILL for that one. I have just seen a PRIVATE VIDEO of his latest whre
he walks on water - tite closeups of his feet in a glass water tank. A
baffler to say the least. And HIS vanish of the statue of Liberty (you
know the real one in France is only about 15 feet tall) blew me away.
Used the Million Dollar Mystery principal, but more deceptively than I
have ever seen it used.
Later. Got to hit the drums...
Msg #5811 Dated 17:28:46 01-22-91 5794 <--> 5845
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MAGIC LUNCH
My car will be in L.A. but I will be in Arizona trying to make a few
dollars to pay my phne bills.one bills. Good
luck. Like the guy tht checked into airline counter and said, "Here's
my 3 bags, send this one to Miami, the blue one to Chicago and the
leather one to Bangkok". Clerk said "can't do that!" Guy said, "sure
you can you did on my last flight!"
Msg #5812 Dated 17:48:49 01-22-91 5789 <--> 5820
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
Reveen was going to Australia.
Msg #5813 Dated 19:32:12 01-22-91 -> 5824
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC CRUISE
Has anyone any info on the possible cancellation of the Magic Cruise?
Someone I chatted with on the phone thought it might be off. Let me
know if you know anything for sure! Gracias.
Msg #5817 Dated 20:00:29 01-22-91 5769 <-
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: KATO'S CARD HAPPENING
These people would probably shoot their mother to go to an orphans
picnic too!
Msg #5818 Dated 20:02:17 01-22-91 5776 <-
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: T A WATERS
Re: SHOW
Thats what it sounded like, thanks for the conformation.
I really did like the effect.
Msg #5819 Dated 20:12:44 01-22-91 -> 5830
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
Darrell,
The worst has happened, I got a call from the boss this morning and she
told me I have reservations on a 7:10am flight tomorrow going to Corpus
Christi, TX. This means I need to cancel my reservation for the Lunch.
It was a real disappointment! I won't be back for about 3-4 weeks.
Can I say S--T? I am taking my lap-top and a modem along but don't
know if the software I have will work. No time to test it as it's
after 8 and I need to pack. If all goes well I'll d/l a review of the
event and tack it up in the hotel room. If not I'll catch up when I
return. Sorry!.......Doug
Msg #5820 Dated 20:20:02 01-22-91 5812 <--> 5847
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
I knew you were going to say that!
Msg #5821 Dated 20:19:04 01-22-91
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC IN TEXAS
Looks like I'll be in Corpus Christi Texas for a few weeks, Does anyone
know if there is someplace to get a Magic fix while in that neck of the
woods? I hope to be able to download replys from there and find
someway to keep in touch.
Oh well I have a few books to read and some sleights to practice while
I'm in seclusion.
Thanks.........Doug
Msg #5824 Dated 22:27:18 01-22-91 5813 <--> 5850
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CRUISE
Pete, as of my last day at the Inside Magic office (last Friday), we
had heard that they cancelled the magic convention portion of
the cruise. So it's just a "straight" cruise (with magic I would
suppose). But not an official "convention."
Msg #5825 Dated 22:52:31 01-22-91 5808 <--> 5866
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: AHHH..YES!
Ahhhh...NO!
Happy to have you amongst us in SoCal, Pete...
...but am sorry to hear you're under the weather with that dam flu that
seems to have so many folks in its clutches recently. My wife and both
my children have been down with it and are finally getting over it...
...fortunately, I've been spared...as you can guess, I can't work when
I'm sick...so I've developed my curmudgeonly personality so that no flu
bug would DARE to bite me...I'd bite it right back!
Hope you're feeling better soon and, since you're here, perhaps you'll
be attending the luncheon this Friday...(Castle dress code does not
apply during Friday lunches).
If you're up and around Hollywood tomorrow, (Wednesday), stop by and
visit the set if you'd like. Phone me and I'll leave your name at the
guard gate.
Be well.
'Wayne.
Msg #5830 Dated 0:26:08 01-23-91 5819 <--> 5858
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
Sorry to hear it, Douglas. It's too late to move the lunch to Corpus.
I've done that before -- lunch in Houston and home that night. And my
wife went to breakfast in D.C. once. Flew in the night before, had
b'fast, and was home by about 4 p.m. Too old for that stuff now.
Hope your laptop and modem work and that you can stay in touch while on
the road. Also hope you can stuff the company with the calls!
Msg #5831 Dated 0:48:56 01-23-91 -> 5846
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: FINAL WORD
Remember Geno Munari's idea of how to squelch a heckler? A little
device, named Final Word, that, at the press of a button, will fire an
obscenity back? Great idea 'cause it gets the performer out of the
loop and really makes the heckler look pretty dumb without offending
the audience?
Well -- I got some! Yep, genuine X-RATED Final Words! Can't tell you,
in print, what they say, but they produce a random foul comment. About
the size of a pack of cigarettes.
Want one? Here's the deal - FIRST THREE people to send me a private
message ordering 'em, followed by a check for $15 + $1 for postage,
will get 'em. If there are six more orders I'll order more. First
come, first served. Proceeds to go to MAGIC! fund.
These things normally cost $18 - $20 bucks, if you can find 'em.
Remember, this is the totally foul, X-RATED version. Batteries (2 AA
cells) not included.
Msg #5836 Dated 1:34:15 01-23-91 5803 <--> 5909
From: T A WATERS
To: JEFF BUSBY (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
Dr. Booth has a doctorate in divinity; I am not quite sure of the
implication of your quotes around "Dr."
Msg #5837 Dated 5:59:14 01-23-91
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BOOKS, ETC.
A couple of items for you. Regarding Racherbaumer's "Marlo Without
Tears" book, I like it. It is a typical Racherbaumer/Marlo book in
that it is short on presentation and some of the effects aren't all
that practical (and are probably only writen for the "historical"
record). But the tears book does have some good items in it. For
example, I've taken a couple of the handlings given for the Streamlined
21 Card Trick, along with Marlo's earlier version in "The Cardician",
and made a nice little routine to show to people who know the usual 21
card trick. The book is definitely worth a read.
I have one of the Fulves brainwave books (the first one). If you
haven't gotten a copy by the time I go back to Washington in early
March, I'll bring it along for you to read. It's an interesting book
with some neat ideas in it. I've been meaning to play around with one
of the ideas in it, the Omni deck. We may have to ask Max or T.A. if
they have any thoughts on it!
RPG - you poor guy!!!!!!
Charlie
Msg #5838 Dated 5:59:54 01-23-91 -> 5861
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: JOB
You asked if I worked on the space shuttle program. Actually I'm
working on a software research project for the space station program at
the Johnson Space Center in Houston. It's a lot of fun and I get to
play with some really neat things, mostly computer related. Ever now
and then I get into some of the other labs to see what's new (and if
there's anything that might be neat magic-wise). I've actually found
a good item or two. Familiar with the trick Wiregrams (a straight
piece of wire placed into a hot cup of water bends into a "3" and a
heart shape to indicate that some previously selected card was the 3 of
hearts). The metal used is Nitinol.
I played with the idea of making paper-clips out of them. These
clips could then be bent into any shape that a spectator wanted.
Afterwards you would restore it to its paper-clip shape by dipping it
into hot water, "burning" it, or whatever. I had dressed it up with
some presentation and thought it might be pretty good. I found out
while researching the idea that someone had already beat me to it.
Another thing that I've thought about is fiber optics. There's got
to be some neat uses for these. I know of only one mental trick that
uses the principle and it's pretty good.
Another item is non-linear optical material. Walter Blaney has
nifty ideas for this stuff.
Oh well, food for thought....
Charlie
Msg #5840 Dated 7:22:06 01-23-91 -> 5853
From: RICK RUHL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HARBIN
Yes the details on the Zig-Zag that are in the Harbin book, no one
follows. I saw harbin do it YEARS ago, back when I was like much
younger. (of course it was on TV). Something seems lacking in
performances of it now.
Msg #5842 Dated 8:36:46 01-23-91 -> 5857
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: ALL
Re: RUSSELYF LEWIS
Getting some computer noise...
But here's my question:
Did anyone else get a chance to see the Magic of Russell Lewis
that he was presenting this past month in Rosemead.
If so, am curious what others thought.
Thanks!
Msg #5843 Dated 8:38:10 01-23-91
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: ALL
Re: KLOSTERMAN/TO TELL THE TR
Had heard Ken Klosterman taped a "To Tell the Truth."
It aired this past Monday (1/21). I didn't get the machine
set up to tape it. Did anyone see it or catch it on tape??
I think it came about as a result of his Smithsonian article, but
am not 100% sure on that. I bet it was interesting. I will
check if that program runs repeats.
Anyway would like to hear if anyone did see it.
Thanks, again!
Msg #5844 Dated 8:41:38 01-23-91 -> 5911
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: SCHWARZKOOF
Wayne, thought your comment that General Norman Schwarzkoof
was an amateur magician was interesting. Think it would
be an interesting little note to slip into "Inside Magic."
Curious where you read this. Would like to tap that source
for more info.
Thanks!
Msg #5845 Dated 9:51:41 01-23-91 5811 <-
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC LUNCH
What about the women who booked herself and her dog on a flight. When
she arrived at her dest. the dog did not. However the next day when
the dog did show up, it was dead. The airlines an effort to avoid
a lawsuit, decided to replace her dog, so they went out an bought one
and del'd it to her. She cried out, "this is not my dog, my dog was
dead, and I was shipping him home to bury."
Don't know what this has to do with the lunch, hope it has nothing to
do with the meat they might serve. Have a good trip. The way most
businesses are now things are getting tight. Even in my industry, the
film business, things have slowed down.
Msg #5846 Dated 10:00:35 01-23-91 5831 <--> 5874
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: FINAL WORD
David. Just a word of caution. I bought two of theFinal Word, and
both had to be returned. Very hard to understand. However when I
first saw/heard it at a party the sound was excellant. For whatever
it's worth.
Msg #5847 Dated 10:09:30 01-23-91 5810 <--> 5854
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
Doesn't the Harbin Chair Suspension require some sort of
special folding chairs. Seems like I read this somewhere...got a
feeling it was ina REEL WORKS from GENII sometime back and you
found some chairs and were going to bring them back from Jolly
Ole.
The chair suspension in general has always been a fave of
mine. WALTER BLANEY gave me a design (his?) ten years ago or so
ago but I never built it.
Seems like to me it would be stronger effect if you could
somehow remove the chair from under the volunteer's head instead
of the feet. I know there is a weight distribution problem. Maybe
find a volunteer with big feet !!!
A few years back, Elton John had a rig to levitate and
then rotate his grand piano (and him) while playing a number. The
audience loved it but Elton dropped it because it made him
uneasy. Probably somewhat dangerous too as a piano on a piano
player could definately STOP THE SHOW.
Always thought the shooting a ribbon through a girl?
would be a neat thing to do in a vodvil type act which was played
for laughs. I've considered doing something along these lines and
playing it for a country music audience (somebody will be doing
it next week probably) but instead of me shooting have the girl?
shoot through me - maybe a volunteer ?? since I'd be wearing the
gizmo. Maybe at the Annual Labor Day Picnic we do every year,
though I vowed after the last one (people staying around for daze
after and gate crashers) NEVER MORE! but we'll see since I'm
traveling with a more genteel crowd these daze.....Hope things
are good (were good) in AraZone etc....Keep up the good work..
tm
Msg #5848 Dated 10:10:40 01-23-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: MAGAZINES
Did you get Gunther Nash's list?
Msg #5850 Dated 10:36:10 01-23-91 5824 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: MAGIC CRUISE
Thanks for the info. I had heard much the same.
Msg #5853 Dated 10:41:03 01-23-91 5840 <--> 5862
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: HARBIN
The "major" part left out is the spectator coming up, the girl is in
the cabinet and spectator (a woman) pushes the middle section over and
it stops. Harbins says "Do you know why it stopped? Because there's a
girl inside." He then pushes the blades (they are narrower than the
full width of the box) thru. Then asks woman to push... AND WHEN SHE
PUSHES THE PARTITION THE LOOK ON HER FACE WHEN IT GOES IS "THE
PRESENATION" HIGHLIGHT. Much likethe spectator reaching into the "empty
egg bag" and finding the egg!
You see, Harbin worked almost exclusively in Cabaret situations,
practically surrounded and very close to the audience. That's why Zig
Zag, his chair suspension, and others can be done UP CLOSE AND
SURROUNDED.
Msg #5854 Dated 10:46:32 01-23-91 5847 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LEVELAT{A{ATION
If you had someone knowledgable, like Blaney, John Gaughan, etc., build
it you could take the chair out from the "wrong" end. Would need to be
built like the Golden Gate Bridge!
Shooting thru ribbon is a killer idea.. and as a gag like you say would
be great. I used to do the Sword thru MY body (but am now too fat for
the gaff)!!!!!!!! I also want to do Zig Zag HORIZONTALLY like you are
sawing someone in 3 and the middle piece falls out to the floor!
There is a routine advertised now where you try to shoot a target on a
deck of cards and theflowers get shot, the table gets blown away, etc.
I love the concept and if were working a big time show ala Copperfield
would do a version. I have a gaff that belonged to a vodvil act that
would (when in a bucket or box -- I put in snake basket) shoot 38 cal
blanks at pre determined sequence (spring wound) and would have a
gunfight with the snake. Did this one time (then the actual owner of
the gaff took it back!!) and the audinece -- and me -- was laughing so
hard I believe I had a 70-percent "Pissed in my Pants" rate!
Msg #5857 Dated 11:37:44 01-23-91 5842 <--> 5890
From: JACK TAVES
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: RUSSELYF LEWIS
i'm sorry to say i did. not to bad for a kid. but than who wants to see
a kid act like david copperfield. needs alot of work. and to say the
start of a world tour from rosemead. give me a break...
just goes to show what a pocket full of money will get you....
Msg #5858 Dated 12:40:59 01-23-91 5819 <--> 5868
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
What a BUMMER!!!!! Sorry to hear about your trip but those things
happen. I guess you can be happy you still have a job. I will try to
post the MAGIC! Luncheon Happenings on Friday night so that those of
you who can't attend in person can at least be there in sprit.
Msg #5859 Dated 16:17:21 01-23-91 -> 5860
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: MOJO CASTLE LUNCH
Hey, why not bring a laptop and modem to the Castle Lunch and mabye
Dante will plug it into the wall and you give give us a live, from the
Festalboard report! If they can do it from Bagdad....
Msg #5860 Dated 16:27:56 01-23-91 5859 <--> 5912
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MOJO CASTLE LUNCH
Cool.
Msg #5861 Dated 17:10:17 01-23-91 5838 <--> 5958
From: MAX MAVEN
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: JOB
The guy who came up with the idea of Nitinol paperclips was Charlie
Kalish. He made them himself; I've got a couple, and while they are
less than perfect they're not bad.
Karl Fulves was the first to apply fiber-optics to magic, with Syd
Bergson marketing an independently devised (but quite similar)
application shortly thereafter.
Msg #5862 Dated 17:12:34 01-23-91 5853 <--> 5880
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HARBIN
John Fisher used a kinescope of Harbin doing the first television
performance of the Zig-Zag at the Palladium on last year's "Best Of
Magic" series. It's worth a look.
Msg #5865 Dated 19:06:04 01-23-91 5759 <--> 5881
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FACEUP
You are right of course. In this world today we want everything and we
want it NOW! It's not that way with learning sleight of hand. Early
on (I'm talking last year here) I wanted to learn how to do every move
I would read about in ten minutes. I was the worst "slop of hand"
artist you ever guffawed at. Patience was not one of my virtues. I
have since narrowed it down to a handful of what I consider the most
valuable moves for me to know and I work on them onsistently until one
day I will be able to do them in my sleep. I don't think any move is
worth 10 years practice to me, but then that's just me. 3, maybe!
Msg #5866 Dated 19:15:18 01-23-91 5808 <--> 5882
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: AHHH..YES!
I saw Jay Leno last Sunday evening. Believe it or not I have never
ever seen him perform even on TV. Obviously I don't watch much TV and
Johnny Carson is on much too late for me anyway. Anyway, his show was
very funny and the audience really loved him. I was anxious to see him
because I had heard that he is not only funny but he has pretty "clean"
humor as opposed to, say, Eddie Murphy. But... he sure is sarcastic
and antagonistic! Is that the way he normally is? Nevertheless, it
was very enjoyable and I recommend him to anyone who hasn't seen him.
(Maybe I was the only one who hasn't!)
Msg #5868 Dated 19:44:35 01-23-91 5830 <--> 5869
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
Guess where this message is from?...Corpus Christi...sending soggy
Texas grettings to all. I had to get a new cable for the modem to
attach to the laptop and reset some of the parameters on my users list
but I can stay in touch with Magic!
How SWEET IT IS
Talk to you later
Msg #5869 Dated 19:47:14 01-23-91 5858 <--> 5878
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
Thanks for the condolances...I am glad for having a job but we are
taking someones business away tomorrow (Default on his contract) and
that is no fun no matter how it comes about. Sorry to miss you all but
my thoughts are with ya
Msg #5874 Dated 20:20:28 01-23-91 5846 <--> 5907
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FINAL WORD
I took one at random out of the box and it worked fine. If anything,
it was too loud and distinct! It was perfectly clear what the thing
was telling you!
Msg #5878 Dated 20:28:36 01-23-91 5868 <--> 5883
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
Great to see that the laptop/modem/software/phone connection is
working! I was worried that we would be spending a bleak couple of
weeks without you. If you ever have trouble with that stuff, check
with Biro -- the man is a MODEM COMMANDO. He has been known to take
hotel phones apart to stay on-line to MAGIC!
Msg #5880 Dated 22:07:32 01-23-91 5862 <--> 5901
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: HARBIN
I can still remember seeing the Zig Zag done by RH the first time, just
as I can still recall being NAILED by Phoa with his cut silk, just as
I can still remember Slydini -- the first time I ever saw coins thru
the table -- WHEN DONE BY THESE MASTERS I HAD NO CLUE!
Msg #5881 Dated 22:09:07 01-23-91 5865 <--> 5949
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FACEUP
Some day it will be 10 years from now and you will appreciate the
practice habits you start today.
Msg #5882 Dated 22:10:02 01-23-91 5866 <--> 5950
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: AHHH..YES!
Where did you see him? At Hermosa or on TV? I would have been at
Hermosa thant night but I thought he was working Monday instead of
Sunday. And I sat around my hotel room doing nothing (except practice
the top change).
Msg #5883 Dated 22:11:21 01-23-91 5878 <--> 5892
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
Not only hotel phones, but the walls behind the beds and even remove
the screws and nails holding the beds against the walls so I can strip
wires and get hooked up. The easiest, however is the aligator clips
onto the two little freemuses inside the phone's mouthpiece.
Msg #5889 Dated 23:57:42 01-23-91 -> 5896
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC/WAR
Remember, there are also magicians fighting in Saudi Arabia. From the
SAM I attend (#112, Walnut Creek!), SSGT. Trent Walton has been sent
over. If you wish to send him your support as a fellow magician, or
even a fellow American, his address is:
SSGT R. Trent Walton
018-54-0102
Operation Desert Storm (might still be "Shield"...)
60 ALCE
APO 09603
If you want to send him something, check what Saudi Arabia will allow
first. Sending him "magic" might be offendingly misconstrued by some
customs official. Anyone else have a fellow magician over there?
Remember, they're not only in need of moral support, but they're also
missing the latest issues of TOPS, GENII, Tannen's, etc... Let's hope
the war is over soon (the missions seem to be successful so far!). Back
to CNN....
Msg #5890 Dated 0:16:01 01-24-91 5857 <--> 6083
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: JACK TAVES (X)
Re: RUSSELYF LEWIS
Jack, I felt the same way re: Copperfield. Wondered if it was just me.
Like you said, I guess if you've got the money...
Msg #5892 Dated 0:32:22 01-24-91 5883 <--> 5902
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
I'll bet it's great when you land in one of those hotels with phones in
the bathroom!
Msg #5896 Dated 0:41:17 01-24-91 5889 <--> 5952
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAGIC/WAR
Thanks for your message, Scott. If anyone else knows of magi involved
in Desert Storm, please post info - It would be nice if MAGIC! members
sent 'em some words of encouragement.
Msg #5901 Dated 0:56:59 01-24-91 5880 <--> 5928
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HARBIN
It's interesting what a clear distinction we have when sorting through
our memories, between those special, original stand-outs and the huge
number of pedestrian performers we've been exposed to.
Msg #5902 Dated 6:09:28 01-24-91 5868 <--> 5954
From: DAVID LUTHER
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
If you want to contact any local Magician types, try:
James A. Mobley, 2413 Memorail Pkwy, Portland, Tx
Ron Jorgensen, 131 Sabine, also Portland, Tx, or
Mike Farrell, 3100 Santa Fe, #11, Corpus.
According to Dec Linking Ring they meet 2nd Sunday at Sheraton Marina
Inn at 300 N. Shoreline, Corpus. Corpus also has just opened the
new Texas State Aquarium, which is also located on Shoreline I believe.
Msg #5903 Dated 6:45:24 01-24-91 -> 5904
From: RICK RUHL
To: ALL
Re: SNOW
The south has been hit with our 'yearly' snowfall. AND IM AT WORK!
For once, ATlanta didnt; come to it's knees when it snowed.
Wonder what would happen if LA got 4 inches of snow?
Msg #5904 Dated 6:52:32 01-24-91 5903 <--> 5908
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: SNOW
We'd drink it! We're a little short of water lately. Actually, the
outer fringes of Los Angeles experiences a semidoudecidenial (I think
that is the correct form for "every 20 years." Either that or it is a
medical term for "half an ulcer") snowfall. We had one about two years
ago.
But Atlanta under 4" of snow must be something to see!
Msg #5905 Dated 6:59:44 01-24-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEN HENSLEY (X)
Re: QUALITY MAGIC
Ken ->
QUALITY MAGIC in the mails to you today......enjoy!
Msg #5907 Dated 10:14:22 01-24-91 5874 <--> 5913
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: FINAL WORD
Great that they are working good. If still available, I'll take two,
you can bring them to the lunch Friday. By the way, which room?
Msg #5908 Dated 10:16:35 01-24-91 5904 <--> 5914
From: RICK RUHL
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: SNOW
We have 2 inches right now, but expect 4 in downtown this afternoon and
6 in the outskirts. (I live in the outskirts).
Told my wife to leave work about 4 EST, that way it shouldnt frezze,
but wait till tonight, the melted snow is going to freeze and then
Atlanta will be one big popsicle.
SNow bound
Ricker
Msg #5909 Dated 10:53:43 01-24-91 5836 <--> 5971
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
Also, Dr. Booth met and knew Anneman personally.
Msg #5911 Dated 10:57:40 01-24-91 5844 <--> 6096
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: SCHWARZKOOF
"Stormin' Norman" Schwartzkopf and I have a few mutual friends and my
info was based on those sources. However, I thought it was quite
coincidental that a few days after I posted my message here, there was
a blurb in the LOS ANGELES TIMES which quoted MRS. Schwartzkopf as
saying that the General was interested in magic and had performed for
children's birthday parties and shows.
Msg #5912 Dated 11:03:17 01-24-91 5860 <--> 5915
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MOJO CASTLE LUNCH
If a laptop isn't available, you can always try to find a gas-powered
computer and plug it into the chile!
Msg #5913 Dated 11:24:33 01-24-91 5907 <--> 5924
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FINAL WORD
OK, will bring two Final Words to you on Friday. You'll have to ask
Darrell which room, I don't know.
Msg #5914 Dated 11:25:22 01-24-91 5908 <--> 5929
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: SNOW
Sounds more like one big Gritsicle. Remember those? Frozen grits on
a stick?
Msg #5915 Dated 12:34:19 01-24-91 5912 <--> 5930
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MOJO CASTLE LUNCH
How'd you know we were having chile?
Msg #5916 Dated 12:34:41 01-24-91 -> 5931
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH BOOK
Thanks for recommending the Big Roth Book to me. Just
spent an hour reading through the book and the routine you told
me about is quite beautiful. I got the 2nd edition put out by D.
Robbins. If I run across a first edition someplace (the one by
K&G in the slipcase) I want to pick it up too.
Someday perhaps this library will bring someone great
pleasure (as it has me) even if its broken up and sold piecemeal.
That might be even better, to have books scattered about in
hundreds of small libraries around the globe. Guess I'd better
get on that bookplate......tabman..
Did you find a copy yet??
Msg #5918 Dated 14:33:03 01-24-91 5730 <--> 6095
From: RICHARD STREET
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY MAGIC
So far the scheduled events late this year are the annual public show,
which will be Halloween weekend, and the national FCM convention. Have
to get back to you with the date on it. The agenda looks good. Maybe
start a little earlier Friday night. Most out of town folk should be in
before 8:00. It seems like all incoming flights to Nashville happen
around 7:00. Agree totally on first class lecturers. Emphasis on
teaching, not only tricks but presentation and psycology. Two lectures
and two shows on Saturday will still leave the dealers plenty of time
to do their thing. What would a bar magician expect to make for the
weekend? Just curious about ballpark numbers. I know 7 to 3, 5 to 1, 3
to 3 in extra innings. Sorry, got off the track for a second.
We talking about having Daryl come in in March. I talked to a couple of
members about who they would like to see. Paul Harris was year a couple
of years ago. A few others I've mentioned before. Maybe the best way to
answer your question (from your last message on the board) about
lecturers, would be to ask who would you recommend?
Got to go, but just want to say how much I enjoy your stuff on the
board. I'm still laughing about the caffine effect. Did you just sign
on a type that.. that's scary. Really it's great stuff. I believed
every word .. oh by the way, have I ever told you about my Bengal tiger
production from an egg bag. I don't have it perfected yet, but as soon
as I figure out how to make the egg vanish, I'll buy the tiger.
Talk to you later ...... RS
Msg #5919 Dated 15:07:02 01-24-91 5774 <--> 5941
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DOWNLOAD
My communication package has XMODEM with CRC. I thought that I had to
change to that protocol in the file transfer protocol recorded for me
on your system. I did that so I expect that all will be well. Now,
when I transfer I just type a "C", correct. Hope I finally have got it
right.
Msg #5920 Dated 15:10:25 01-24-91 -> 5921
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: TABMAN
Re: TELENET
Thanks for turning me on to TELENET ( now US SPRINTNET) for a way to
decrease long dist charges. For ALL: $30 for 30 hours 6p-7a. For more
information call 1-800-736-1130. And they do service the 818 area
code.
Msg #5921 Dated 16:54:21 01-24-91 5920 <--> 5933
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: TELENET
You're welcome, but it was our sysop Dr. Lichtman who turned me on to
it. Unfortunately it isn't available here in bumf...k where I live but
I'll be able to tapin one I get back home to tennessee. MCI has a new
ld service that runs 11 cents a minit after 5pm so I just signed up for
it...tabman
Msg #5922 Dated 17:38:01 01-24-91 -> 5944
From: ROBERT CANSLER
To: ALL
Re: IS THERE NEVER ANYONE FRO
Just for a little update on me and what I am doing on the East coast
that is if any one really cares, I just completed a 3 show weekend
at Stowe Vermont, (Winter Carnival Weekend), doing my
Dr. Falconi's Medicine and Magic Show; went very well and I got
several bookings out of the weekend.
I just thought I would throw this in since I never see anything
from the east coast on here. Even in the snow the MAGIC is great
way to make a living, as long as I don't fall to hard down the
mountain.
Regards to All
Robert Cansler aka The Great Falconi
Msg #5924 Dated 19:58:45 01-24-91 5907 <--> 5969
From: GENO MUNARI
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FINAL WORD
Marvin, I hope I can meet you. I am having a great problem in getting
into Hollywood Friday Am, . I recently prodeuced a video through J2
Communications and am planning several more videos and a motion picture
based on the life of Nick the Greek, via Jan Grippo, producer of the
Bowery Boys_Eastside Kids, and frien of the Grrek. I would love to
talk to you and seek some advice.
Msg #5926 Dated 20:57:50 01-24-91 -> 5945
From: STEVE KUCERA
To: ALL
Re: GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL
Hey there folks I just got the modem working again and it looks like I
have mucho messages to read. LOoking forward to checking em out and
tossing in my two cents worth.
One bit of quick advice while typing on-line. If you use a wireless
microphone in your act BE SURE TO TURN THE DAMN THING OFF AFTER THE
SHOW. We did a gig last week and we were so hyper after the show I
forgot to switch off my mike while we did the post show rap session (
what went well and what needed improvement)/. Sound man ran up to me
after five minutes to let me know the whole auditorium was in on the
conversation.
ah well live andlearn I guess. Aint technology great?
Msg #5928 Dated 21:39:44 01-24-91 5901 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: HARBIN
NO QUESTION. THE GOOD STUFF REALLY STANDS OUT!!!!!!
Msg #5929 Dated 21:40:19 01-24-91 5908 <--> 5938
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: SNOW
I don't think I would recognize Atlanta without the red clay!
Msg #5930 Dated 21:41:35 01-24-91 5912 <--> 5935
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MOJO CASTLE LUNCH
That's like the small town that had Dr's. do GASTROCARDIOGRAMS. No
electricity, you plug it into... well...
Msg #5931 Dated 21:42:35 01-24-91 5916 <--> 5939
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH BOOK
No findum copy yet kemosabbe
Msg #5933 Dated 21:44:08 01-24-91 5920 <--> 5942
From: PETE BIRO
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: TELENET
I was in a hotel for three days in Anaheim. My phone bill for three
days was $112.00. Most of which was modem time!
Msg #5935 Dated 21:56:41 01-24-91 5915 <--> 5953
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MOJO CASTLE LUNCH
Was I right?
Great...
...let me remove the half dollars from my eyelids and the blindfold...
Msg #5938 Dated 22:27:44 01-24-91 5903 <--> 6002
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: SNOW
One day after the "annual" snow I was flying into Atlanta and the pilot
came on the intercom and advised us to look out the window and look at
all the white on the ground. He then said "That ain't snow folks- the
grits factory exploded" everyone got a good laugh at that one.
Msg #5939 Dated 22:29:47 01-24-91 5916 <--> 5951
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH BOOK
Your bookplate arrived today, Tabman. Will try to get it scanned asap.
I think you said you wanted the name off of it, so will do a bit of a
crop.
Msg #5941 Dated 22:33:18 01-24-91 5919 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: DOWNLOAD
If it is working, it is right. If it isn't... we'll have to see what
we can do.
Msg #5942 Dated 22:34:15 01-24-91 5920 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: TELENET
Yep. The Telenet service is called PC-Pursuit. You have to figure out
how it works, a minor effort, and then you get up to 30 hours for $30
a month. And yes, MAGIC! is on the list of places you can call.
Msg #5944 Dated 22:37:00 01-24-91 5922 <--> 6043
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ROBERT CANSLER (X)
Re: IS THERE NEVER ANYONE FRO
I'd like to see your show sometime, Robert. Ever bring it to the West
Coast???
Msg #5945 Dated 22:40:39 01-24-91 5926 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE KUCERA (X)
Re: GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL
Sooner or later most performers have been "gotten" by a live mike. Or
a live camera...
I used to work in broadcasting, and we had a habit of turning on one of
the cameras so that the guys in the control room could watch the
weather girl put her mike on. Had two control rooms in two nearby
cities. Folks in the other town ran the general stuff and we did the
news. One night something crashed over there and so they cut to us
early, yelling "Take it!" on the intercom... Yep, we took it OK.
Msg #5949 Dated 6:46:58 01-25-91 5881 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FACEUP
I know what you mean. I have seen many junior performers at the Castle
and I would say to myself I wish when I was their age I was half that
good. What am I saying? I wish I was half that good now! It won't
happen in a minute, but that's ok. This is one hobby where the
practice is not so much tedious labor as it is an enjoyable
preoccupation. I try to keep a deck of cards and some half dollars on
me at all times so if I am ever stuck in line someplace I can always
practice shifts and passes. 10 years will be here all too soon.
Msg #5950 Dated 6:55:36 01-25-91 5882 <--> 5981
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: AHHH..YES!
I saw him at the Comedy and Magic Club in Hermosa beach. Sorry you
didn't know about it. I remember a lady trying to sell her tickets
because her husband was ill. Most of us had purchased them in advance
over the phone. Quite a long line that snaked around the building for
the second show. He must be very popular as it looked like a sellout
or very nearly so. If you have seen his act you probably know this one
but I thought one of his funniest stories was when he was around nine
years old and his mom was making the big Thanksgiving meal for the
whole family. She realizes the table is all ready before the guests
arrive except they are out of napkins. Quick, Jay! Run to the store
and get a big box of napkins! He hops on his bike and peddles as fast
as he can and says- Mister! Mister! My mom needs a big box of napkins,
it's an emergency! He comes home with a big box of sanitary napkins!
The whole bit was hilarious. Sometimes the true tales are the
funniest!
Msg #5951 Dated 7:04:27 01-25-91 5939 <--> 5959
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ROTH BOOK
Just the bookplate itself, I know I sent more. Leave Sid's name on it
though.....
Msg #5952 Dated 7:11:22 01-25-91 5889 <--> 5967
From: STAN LAKE
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAGIC/WAR
Will drop him a line today. Maybe he would appreciate a deck of cards
too?
Msg #5953 Dated 7:13:48 01-25-91 5912 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MOJO CASTLE LUNCH
Or plug it into someone who has ate the chile!!
Msg #5954 Dated 7:18:48 01-25-91 5868 <--> 5955
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
HOOOOOOOOWDY!!!!
Msg #5955 Dated 7:20:31 01-25-91 5883 <--> 5994
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
I usually stay at the EMBASSY SUITES hotels and most of there hotels
have DATA COMMUNICATIONS PORTS on the side of the telephones which make
modem telecommunicating much easier. Of course the FREE two hour
cocktails at night and the FREE cook-to-order breakfast in the morning
is also a big seller!!
Msg #5957 Dated 7:30:58 01-25-91
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON
Well today is the GREAT MAGIC! Luncheon. The luncheon is at 11:30am but
I should be there by about 11:00am to get those of you that are not
members, in the door.
Lets meet at the main bar as you come in the door. From there we will
go upstairs. I am not sure where we will be eating but if you get there
late look for a bunch of rowdy magicians and you probably will not be
far off.
I will check MAGIC! just before I go down to the Castle for any LAST
MINUTE MESSAGES just before 10:30am.
Msg #5958 Dated 7:39:47 01-25-91 5838 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: JOB
I was curious how that nitinol works. Does the metal have some sort of
"memory"? I'm sure with enough imagination there are thousands of
effects possible with all of that hi-tech stuff.
Msg #5959 Dated 7:49:52 01-25-91 5931 <--> 5998
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH BOOK
If you haven't called Byron, call him as he had two
copies of first edition a couple of months ago - probably gone by
now, but you never know. Hank Lee's (Hank or Mark) 1-800-874-7400
had copies of the 2nd edition 7 days ago. HL's fax 617-395-2034.
Hank keeps a rather large stock of books and is usually a good
for finding current books after you've tried your usual sources
also one of the first dealers in the USA to recognize the talents
of Phil Goldstein (but you knew that already)....
Msg #5960 Dated 7:51:05 01-25-91 -> 5966
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: LUNCH
Sorry I can't be there today. Last night I realized that the first
luncheon was this noon and sure wished things were so I could have
joined everyone and raised a glass to MAGIC! and to you all. I'll be
thinking of ya'll......enjoy!
Msg #5961 Dated 8:00:35 01-25-91 -> 6003
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: FINDING A MSG
If I let the message number scroll by without seeing what it was, or if
I later want to find a specific message, what is the easiest way to do
that? What happened is the Kaps letter #4 went by without me seeing
what the number was. My machine was supposed to capture everything
that scrolled by but when I went back to look the file content was 0.
I've spent the last half hour going up and down the files in the system
one by one with no luck. Do you know what number the Kaps letter is
at?
Msg #5963 Dated 8:33:22 01-25-91 -> 6090
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: NAME
Frank:
Only my friends call me Harry
Msg #5964 Dated 8:34:00 01-25-91 -> 6004
From: RICK RUHL
To: ALL
Re: ATLANTA SNOW
is gone. One day it's there, the next day, GONE!
David: I didn't know you were one in boradcasting, as you may or may
not know, so was I. THAT business has to be the most insecure,
egotistcal carrer field of all.
Msg #5965 Dated 8:35:02 01-25-91 5706 <-
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORKS
Heyyy Tabman
Ray told me he talked to Obie. He said to just send Obie a check for
$60.00. I should see you at FFFF. However, I have to leave for
Cincinatti on Saturday April 27th, so like Rochester, I'll only be
there for part of it. It's too bad. Saturday is usually the best day.
Nonetheless I should see you there.
Caught your article in Genii, you ascribed by "Rock" line to Ray
(unless he is usuing it now). Anyway, no big deal. Hope your ready to
"Rock and Roll" at Fechter's. Well, for you Country Guys I should say,
Hope you're ready to "Two-Step".
Msg #5966 Dated 8:50:18 01-25-91 5960 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LUNCH
We will miss ya Tabby but we will toast all who couldn't make it and I
will try and post a message tonight with all the details.
Msg #5967 Dated 8:51:50 01-25-91 5889 <--> 6000
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAGIC/WAR
In SSGT R. Trent Walton's address is it APO NY 09603?
Msg #5969 Dated 11:17:51 01-25-91 5924 <--> 5974
From: MARVIN STERN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FINAL WORD
Be glad to met or talk with you anytime. My phone is 213-466-8211.
Got to run now to attend the lunch.
Msg #5970 Dated 12:54:05 01-25-91 -> 6046
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: LUNCH
I hope the lunch is going well and look 4ward to your report tonite.
Msg #5971 Dated 13:23:27 01-25-91 5836 <--> 5972
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
Assuming without checking seems to be endemic amongst magic writers.
You have the same misconception as most magicians that John Booth is a
Doctor of Divinity. In fact he only went as far as earning a
Bachelor's degree in Divinity from Meadville Theological School in
1942.
His use of the "Dr." title comes not from an earned degree, but from an
honorary one he received from Boston's Portia Law School in 1950. As
you may know these degrees are handed out to people who've either made
a donation to a school, or as "honorariums" for speaking engagements.
The fact that he's a "LittD" not a DD is in Whaley's _Who's Who in
Magic_, substantiated by Booth's own rather murky entry in older
general _Who's Whos_.
In academia it's considered poor taste to preface your name with a
strictly honorary degree. Much the same as in military circles it is
considered ludicrous for a "Kentucky Colonel" to insist he be addressed
by his "military rank". There's no denying magic has a strong tradition
of performers adding unearned titles of "Doctor" and "Professor", but
I thought this practice had died just after the turn of the century,
unless used in a pseudo-bombastic/comedic vein.
Msg #5972 Dated 13:26:11 01-25-91 5909 <--> 6016
From: JEFF BUSBY
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ANNEMANN'S POSTCARD
But, recall that Booth said in his 1984 piece on Annemann "no one
dreamed of his approaching death." If Hilliar's brain blow-out six
years earlier had "inspired" Annemann to gas himself in 1942 as Booth
implied in his 1986 article on _The Sphinx_, why didn't we hear about
it in the earlier extensive piece specifically on Annemann and his
suicide? In all that has been written on Annemann's suicide no one
other than Booth has made this passing and later assertion. Is there
any substantiation -- even rumors -- from those closer to Annemann?
None that I know of.
Msg #5974 Dated 14:17:55 01-25-91 5969 <--> 5989
From: MARVIN STERN
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FINAL WORD
Are you the one who lives in Vegas, and used to be connected with
hotels? That's what the said at lunch today. Also that you have a
production company---Film ( I hope) or Vidio?
Msg #5975 Dated 14:24:08 01-25-91 -> 6045
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC LUNCH
Let me be the first to compliment you on today's lunch. Things went
well, whatever little there was to go, and I think everyone enjoyed
themselves. Even think that MAGIC picked up a new member or two.
See you at the next one.
Msg #5976 Dated 14:27:04 01-25-91 -> 6005
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: LUNCH
Enjoyed lunch today and to again thank you for the trouble and expense
that you went to for the badges. I trust that next time there is less
computer talk and more magic.
Msg #5977 Dated 15:04:16 01-25-91
From: ANTHONY BLAKE
To: ALL
Re: LUNCHEON...
Well, I missed the first ever MAGIC! luncheon...what can I say for
myself...would sorry be enough? Just got in early this morning from an
out of town gig and completely forgot the luncheon...my mind was in a
frozen stupor this morning. Hopefully I will get to meet and greet
everyone of you at the Desert Seminar in a couple of months...at least
I know that Biro and Tabman (hopefully) will be there. So how was the
Castle grub? I will be at the Castle tomorrow night so if any of you
are there that went to the luncheon (even if you weren't there) come on
up and tell me what kind of schlub I am for missing it....
As always....
THE PENITANT GEEKMAN!
Msg #5978 Dated 15:43:01 01-25-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: THAYER QUALITY MAGIC
I'm interested in obtaining any volumes of the Gravatt compiled 4
volume Thayer Quality Magic Instruction Sheet books - any or all.
You know I have a penchant for pre-owned books sooo if anybody has
em gathering dust and wants to unload em let me know. Might be
interested in trading also...
Msg #5979 Dated 16:33:35 01-25-91 -> 6006
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: DOWNLOADING
How do I handle this? After I've downloaded, and an hour later reading
the messages, and decide that I want to answer a message and continue
the thread. What I dooo?
Msg #5981 Dated 17:54:33 01-25-91 5950 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: AHHH..YES!
I know Leno's material well, I have opened for him dozens of times and
usually go in th back door with him and sit in the dressing room and
talk cars! I just blew the date! I'll see him next trip.
Msg #5985 Dated 18:27:37 01-25-91
From: RICK RUHL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: AMMAR
Hi buddy:
Got a note from Micheal Ammar today, he told me to tell you 'hi', and
he did send me the info. He also wrote about his broken wrist, said it
had to do with something about defending the country and he'd have to
kill me if he told me anymore. (heheh).
Anyway, I sent off for his topit book. I tell you what, this guy has
class. The note was very professional yet personal enough and that's
what I call class. I ragged him in my order/reply to get on here, so
maybe since he has a little time of his hands (no pun intended) he can
join this elete group.
Anyway, looking forward to a few rag-chew seesion with oyu about Music
City Magic. I thinkwe may be able to pull it off.
Rikker
Msg #5986 Dated 18:31:37 01-25-91 -> 6039
From: RICK RUHL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CBS
Did you see the preview feeds on T2 tonight for CBS' three day gold
weekend. Loiks like they are going to pull the WHOLE Beatle
/Ed sullivan show out and play the WHOLE thing that weekend. Wasn't
Kapps on it. I know one thing, if that;s the one, my VCR will be
running.
On the subject of dishes, did you notice TVN on T-3 went to VCII plus?
You know, if we put our heads together and got some interested parties,
we might be able to start a 'Magic Channel' Put it up of F3 and see
what happens. That would be cool, kinda like the comedy channel, but
have videos of all the magicians through the years, and have a weekly
live feed from The Magic Castle. Wonder if that COULD happen?
Anyway, tommorow is the day I build my shadow box. Should be fun!
Msg #5987 Dated 18:36:10 01-25-91 -> 5993
From: RICK RUHL
To: ALL
Re: THREAD'S (MAGIC VERSION)
That special thread that Michael Ammar refers to is here in Atlanta
about 2 miles from me. I'll get a price and if anyone needs it, we'll
work out a postpaid deal. I'm sure if you can't find it in your area,
you could either call them or go through me.
Rikker
Msg #5988 Dated 19:04:03 01-25-91 -> 5991
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON REVIEW
If you read the time and date stamp in the header of this message you
will note that the time for the First Annual MAGIC! Luncheon at the
Magic Castle in Hollywood has come and gone.
To start off with let me say this; "WE HAD A GREAT TIME!!!!!!!"
In my opinion, the First Annual MAGIC! Luncheon was a roaring success
with seven of the eleven people who signed up being present. Those in
attendance included yours truly Darrell Murphy, Wayne Powers, Marvin
Stern, SYSOP David Lichtman, Mimi Hertzog, Stan Lake, and Ron Bieber.
Drop-in guest included: Joe Farina, and Greg McKay. There were a few
other Drop-in guest but I for one lost track (maybe someone else can
fill in the blank spots).
We meet downstairs at the main bar of the Magic Castle and around
11:20am people started showing up one by one. At first it was a little
difficult because many of us had never meet face-to-face. After a few
pleasantries were exchanged it was like we had known each other for
years and most of us have known each other for years by way of
telecommunications. At around 11:40am we decided that everyone who was
coming was there so we were shown to the Houdini Room where we had a
chance to get to know each other better over salad, chili and I don't
know what else. SYSOP David Lichtman passed out the first signed,
numbered, limited edition MAGIC! buttons to all who were present. The
official MAGIC! button looks great and I will leave it up to David to
announce the winner and saying that won the contest.
We talked about Magic, MAGIC!, Computers, Card Tricks, and whatever
else was voiced. We even got a demonstration of THE FINAL WORD which
David Lichtman is selling. I can't reveal here what they say but if
you haven't heard one you need to, but not if you offend easily.
We also talked about alternative methods of identifying MAGIC! members
while in the Magic Castle by making up a colored back plate to put
your Magic Castle lapel pin through.
Around 1:30pm we broke and went our separate ways but with the
knowledge that we would meet again either in person or by modem.
Thanks to all who made the luncheon a success.
Msg #5989 Dated 19:19:22 01-25-91 5969 <--> 5990
From: GENO MUNARI
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FINAL WORD
THanks so much. I will be giving you a call. I am just finishing an
interesting project and will be starting another. I understand you
enjoy gambling items. I will be sure you get my new video tape on
scams.
thanks
geno munari
Msg #5990 Dated 19:20:52 01-25-91 5974 <-
From: GENO MUNARI
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FINAL WORD
Yes. I was in gaming for many years. I now have a small video and
film production company. I just finished a made for video for J2
Communications release, called LITTLE SCAMS ON GOLF, with Rich Little.
He plays 26 different characters, in two somes, cheating on the golf
course. Carson and Dangerfield, Fields and Marx, Matheau and Lemon,
Nixon and Ford, etc.
Msg #5991 Dated 20:17:52 01-25-91 5988 <--> 6008
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCHEON REVIEW
My thanks again to you, Darrell, for your efforts in making the
luncheon happen...and David for the badges...and to the rest of those
present for their enjoyable company.
Among the "drop-ins" you neglected to mention in your message was T.A.
Waters.
Let's all do it again soon.
Msg #5993 Dated 21:01:00 01-25-91 5987 <-
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: RICK RUHL (X)
Re: THREAD'S (MAGIC VERSION)
I'd be interested. How much is it? The Mettlers doesn't appear to be
available out here on the west coast. I've checked at stores in
California, Nevada, and Utah. How thick does it look? The kind they
have sell out here in the fabric stores is thick enogh to go fishing
with!
Msg #5994 Dated 21:15:12 01-25-91 5902 <--> 5995
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LUTHER (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
thanks, Ill look into it
Msg #5995 Dated 21:16:25 01-25-91 5878 <--> 5999
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
So far so good my only problem is getting a credit card/direct call so
the software can dial the bbs for me... to many wait for tone and the
n input some more numbers, my software is a little limited.
Msg #5997 Dated 21:18:30 01-25-91 -> 6017
From: JIM SISTI
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: ASCENSION TRANSPOSITION
After I asked you if you knew the source for the variation of your
"Ascension," I did a little digging and came up with it myself. It's
in "Randy Wakeman Presents" by Mike Maxwell. It seems to be basically
the same plot as "Ascension" but is complicated unnecessarily. It's
cluttered with OPEC counts, three-card block pushoffs, open botop
changes, etc. Simple really is better. I'm not sure if you agree, but
I think that sometimes magicians end up fooling themselves when they
believe that the audience will accept things like four cards handled as
one, etc. On another topic, I noticed that you mentioned you used to do
some restaurant walk-around. Did you do any mentalism at all? I've
been trying to come up with some questions for you in regard to the
interview for "The Magic Menu" that we discussed, and perhaps some
information in that regard will help me get a handle on which way to
go. Thanks.
Msg #5998 Dated 23:09:52 01-25-91 5951 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH BOOK
OK, will leave Sid's name on it. Yes, there was more in the package.
Sure wish we could buy that stuff at those prices!
Msg #5999 Dated 23:12:18 01-25-91 5995 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: MAGIC! LUNCH
I know the feeling -- all software is a little limited.
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