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Msg #8500 Dated 11:31:44 03-17-91 -> 8514
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: OREO COOKIES
I got a letter yesterday from I.B.M. about Harry Blackstone Jr. and
Nabisco teaming up to do a promotional this summer. They will be
looking for about 100 magicians to perform in supermarkets across the
country using Oreo cookies in their routines. Maybe they will do a
"Cookies Across" routine or the "Malini Cookie Bag", or Chink-a-cookie
Anyway, more news will be coming out soon about auditions. It sounds
like it could be fun. It goes on to say that performers will not only
be paid for the performances but will be reviewed by judges and have an
opportunity to go on an international tour with Blackstone in 91-92.
Msg #8501 Dated 12:20:04 03-17-91 8492 <--> 8512
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
It belongs UNDER Chicago....in Capone's "Vault!"
Let Geraldo Rivera unearth it and figure out what to do with it!
Msg #8502 Dated 12:23:32 03-17-91 8486 <-
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ORIGAMI BOX/BIKE CARDS
heh, heh.
Msg #8504 Dated 12:24:49 03-17-91 8497 <--> 8510
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
I'm guessing that Biro's guess is right. Factory seconds are what you
get for 99 cents.
It's a shame that the U.S. Playing Card Co. has such little regard for
its good name over a long period of history to let junk product out
in regular packaging!
Here's what to do...
Send the Ace of spades and a Joker from each bad deck you buy back to
U.S. Playing Card Company with a note expressing your dismay at their
recent lack of quality control. I'm sure they will replace the
inferior decks and, hopefully, if enough people take the time to return
the faulty decks, U.S.P.C.C. will discover that it's just not
cost-effective to turn out garbage. As a bonus to you, you will have
lots of free spare cards for signing, tearing, splitting, folding,
etc.!
Msg #8505 Dated 12:32:36 03-17-91 8451 <--> 8522
From: RANDY LUND
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
I can see the symbolism in the magic wand even if it is stretching a
point, but the dove act seems a bit obscure. May be allusion is to
giving birth (one of the few incontestible area where men and women are
not equal in any way) and if so are rabbit from hat etc also sexist.
And if you really want to get into the sexist allusion stuff almost
every stage act is horribly sexist. How many men are sawed in half,
cut ito thirds and pulled apart, burned in a coffin, speared with
multiple swords, pulled through impossibly small holes etc. It is
always (or almost) the job of the female assistant to be mutilated and
restored. Besides Marilyn fits into such contraptions better than I
do.
Msg #8506 Dated 13:19:05 03-17-91 -> 8523
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC CONVENTION PHOENI
- While I know that this may sound scandelous to those of
youplanning to attend the Desert Seminar, I am looking for anyone who
isplanning to be at the Phoenix/Tempe Magic Convention put on by
IBMRing 55. Due to some communication problems with the
Desertorganizers it is being held the same weekend. If there is anyone
onMagic! who is going to be here please let me know and we'll have
ourown breakfast, but don't expect a button, I don't do buttons. Pat
Msg #8507 Dated 16:47:45 03-17-91 8483 <--> 8529
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: SEANCE MAG
My x mom-n-law lived in Casadega for about 15 years
finally moving to Smokey Mts hideaway. A well meaning, but
basically "lost" soul. Have seen many fall prey to crystals,
talismans, charms, runes, numbers, etc, etc. I told one crystal
influenced gent (now he's into Tai Chi Chuan - much better) that
my house was built on top of one of the largest crystal deposits
in the east and that all kinds of strange and wonderful things
were happening (true it is a crystal bed). He understood. I'll
have to ask him why he forsook crystal witching.
Now, a nice wooden card box or a mahogany Spirit Slate,
thats something I can relate to. People were seeing ghosts in
here for awhile (me too, I think) so what can I tell you about
that. And then theres the Legend of the Spring which we're trying
to sell to he highest bidder.
Msg #8508 Dated 18:54:26 03-17-91 -> 8533
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: REDONDO BEACH
Well, I def have a non-refundalbe ticket to come out then so unless
barred by unforseeable circumstance will be there during that time. 8511
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
Piatnik!
Msg #8511 Dated 20:23:28 03-17-91 8504 <--> 8516
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
It is amazing that anyone would put on two different levels of quality
in the SAME packaging - I looked all over for any clue and there is NOT
one. These are rack decks that, prior to the sale, were priced $2.19.
I think I will write a complaint to U.S.P.C.C. - but the problem is
that I bought a bunch of decks for an effect that only works with
UNOPENED packs - so I can't open 'em all and send in the cards.
Msg #8512 Dated 20:26:19 03-17-91 8492 <--> 8519
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
I looked at it again last night and the "pig face" is really a slur at
magicians. If it weren't for the face, I'd say maybe OK, if it were
somewhere else, but this thing is an INSULT to magicians.
Msg #8514 Dated 20:29:28 03-17-91 8500 <--> 8521
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: OREO COOKIES
Yeah! I'm seriously considering auditioning for the Oreo job. Also
thought my son might audition - he does a great, repeatable, Oreo
vanish.
Msg #8515 Dated 22:16:06 03-17-91 -> 8532
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: GYPSY CURSE
Maven-san... Is the Gypsy Curse still available from dealers? If so,
whom (by mail?) and... is the version Fred Kaps was doing with the same
set of cards? I just saw his video of same and was NAILED badly! If
totally different, is it in print? Many graciases in advance!
Msg #8516 Dated 22:17:55 03-17-91 8496 <--> 8517
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
I wuz up late watching a LIVE tv cast from Australia...
Msg #8517 Dated 22:18:46 03-17-91 8491 <--> 8530
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
Fox Lake!
Msg #8518 Dated 22:19:23 03-17-91 8498 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PIATNIK CARDS
$2.74? And I might go... actually, I just opened another box and found
Piatnix, Biatnix and Stanley Uniques, Fox Lake, Hart, Steamboats, etc
ad infintium (new word)...
Msg #8519 Dated 22:20:32 03-17-91 8501 <--> 8520
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
You guys are doing too good with the funny stuff, knock it off!
Msg #8520 Dated 22:20:54 03-17-91 8512 <--> 8525
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
Maybe the parking lot guys like it?
Msg #8521 Dated 22:21:19 03-17-91 8500 <--> 8763
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: OREO COOKIES
The one thing I don't think I could handle is the requirement that you
don't GAIN WEIGHT!
Msg #8522 Dated 22:22:15 03-17-91 8505 <--> 8528
From: PETE BIRO
To: RANDY LUND (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Size has an awful lot to do with it. I have always wanted to do comedy
Illusion show with Men getting their due... Like a dumb comical
assistant (not a new concept -- but one I like).
Look at the most highly paid vaudeville act (in its day) a magician...
KNown as the "Dippy Mad Magician" Frank Van Hoven - he did his
dasterdly stuff to male helpers on stage (regular hired lads, if you
didn't know). My dad worked with him in vaudeville, but didn't remember
subtle things or actual tricks he was using. Just that he was
hilarious.
Msg #8523 Dated 22:24:44 03-17-91 8506 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: MAGIC CONVENTION PHOENI
Sorry about the date conflict. I don't think Joe knew about it. We
never had the subject come up in Desert Seminar board meetings. The
date was selected for Vegas based on hotel availability al loooong time
ago.
Msg #8525 Dated 23:16:16 03-17-91 8520 <--> 8534
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
You know, I was REALLY tempted to ask them last night, but they were
very busy.
Msg #8528 Dated 23:20:50 03-17-91 8505 <--> 8540
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RANDY LUND (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
I admit to a certain difficulty with all dove acts being "inherently
sexist." I was just passing on the words of a magicienne.
There may be a degree of inherent sexism in many stage acts. Some, of
course, are blatantly so. But you also have to wonder what the
definition of "sexism" is - does it mean that men and women should be
treated alike, and behave alike, under all conditions? A silly thought
at best. As to sawing in half, etc. a lot of it has to do with size
and flexibility, as you pointed out. Kevin James does pretty well with
Antonio though.
Incidentally, there is something about the Pendragons act that always
bothers me. Jonathan makes a big deal about how equal Charlotte is,
yet she is STILL the one who gets sawed, stabbed, etc.
Msg #8529 Dated 23:30:11 03-17-91 8507 <--> 8531
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Tab - you are definitely an avis rara. Not many people personally know
a Casadegan, Casadegite, Casa- oh, well, you know what I mean.
Msg #8530 Dated 0:25:39 03-18-91 8511 <--> 8564
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
David--
Like I said, the inferior Bikes are _supposed_ to come in bubble
packs, with no seals. This new wrinkle does not bode well.
Any truth to the rumor that Tally Ho's are better made? Doesn't
make sense to me...
Msg #8531 Dated 1:22:44 03-18-91 8507 <--> 8536
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Do tell, why is Tai Chi Chuan "much better" than crystal power?
Msg #8532 Dated 1:23:29 03-18-91 8515 <--> 8542
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GYPSY CURSE
Peter Kane's "Gypsy Curse" was marketed by Emerson & West in the
1970's. I would guess that it's still available, but if not surely Art
Emerson should have some sets left. Fred's version was _not_ the same
as the Kane version. I don't think his version was ever tipped in
print. T. A. Waters has a nice handling on his video.
Msg #8533 Dated 2:04:19 03-18-91 8508 <-
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: REDONDO BEACH
The problem with my profession is that it is almost IMPOSSIBLE for me
to make plans far enough ahead to register, etc.
I am hoping to make a last-minute jaunt to Vegas on Friday. If I do,
I'll be staying at my usual Vegas Base, Caesar's. They always comp me
and take good care of me there, so I'd be an idiot to unpack anywhere
else. In short, I'm not counting on being there, but I wouldn't be
surprised to wake up there Saturday morning...or afternoon!!!
Msg #8534 Dated 2:12:57 03-18-91 8525 <--> 8761
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
The parking attendants I spoke with HATE it!
I suggested that they call AAA and have it towed away.
Msg #8535 Dated 5:30:36 03-18-91
From: JIM HOY
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CLOSE-UP FOR KIDS
I read your article about table hopping for kids with great interest
and found the advice very practical. With the faltering economy, and
the importance of keeping our jobs, I thought this might be of some
interest to Magic! readers. Several years ago, I worked in a restaurant
with a cute logo. I got a piece of stationery with the logo on it and
xeroxed it (enlarged it too) so I had multiple logos about 3"x3". I
bought some tissue paper and cloth tape, in colors to match the color
theme of the restaurant, made up a bunch of hat tears with the
restaurant's logo prominently displayed on the brim. I always palm off
the torn papers at the end, rather than leaving that suspicious looking
"flower" on the hat anyway. This proved to be very popular, so I did
the same thing with the panties tear, making panties with the logo on
them. The owner loved it and even bought the "arts and craft" supplies
for me. I'm at a different restaurant now. Must work this up again. The
owner was very happy when kids walked out wearing his logo. Also it's
a refreshing change from card and coin tricks.
BTW, I did the panty tear for adults, not kids.
Msg #8536 Dated 7:16:19 03-18-91 8531 <--> 8541
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Well Max,
I'll tell you what I think. He was sleeping with a
crystal under his pillow claiming that it "recorded" his dreams
so he could "play them back" later on for edification. He sent me
a booklet and a "starter" crystal for myself. He would "purify"
the studio before each session, etc.
Maybe if you tell me that there is something to crystal
use then I'll take another look, but Tai Chi excercises
definately do something for bothe the body and the mind. The
philosophy of the Chinese masters attracted me to this area of
study over a decade ago when I worked for a Chinese family. I
almost returned to Taiwan with them in 1981. Was the band leader
at their hotel (lived there too) and got up early each am to
exercise with the Lee family (grandma on down).
Currently at my studio, Ancient Springs Recording, we
have a Piscaway Indian Medicine Man come in to purify with Alder
smoke and chants. This spring he will be making me a large
Medicine Wheel on the hilltop between the house and studio to
give the Great Spirit something to aim at when he's taking target
practice.
I have much respect for all that is ancient and
mysterious, but when a "seeker" bounces from "new thing" to "new
thing" looking for edification I have little hope that they'll
find it.
taboolie
Msg #8538 Dated 10:28:29 03-18-91 -> 8539
From: WILLIAM ZETTLER
To: ALL
Re: COPPERFIELD
HI, Over the weekend I was in Vegas and I went to see "David
Copperfield: Magic for the 90's" at Caesars Palace, anyway, he did the
"cut and restored rope" trick and after he did it succesfully on stage
for the 1100 people he then told us the story of how he cut off his
finger doing the same trick in altintc city. so what you might of read
on here before that was just rumor is a fact now. Also, During his show
he said that on april 9th when he does the train vanish he will show
some train cars on tv, what he wants you to do is TOUCH THE TV AND
DON'T FEEL LIKE A FOOL when you pick any train car on tv and he will
tell you which one you have your finger on!!! after that it says in my
program that: "watch david as he makes a 70-ton Orient Express train
car vanish in mid-air." it's going to be called "The magic of David
Copperfield 13: Mystery on the Orient Express". Well, I hope you all
like my reporting talent! C U later... William
Msg #8539 Dated 11:10:48 03-18-91 8538 <--> 8552
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WILLIAM ZETTLER (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Keep it up.
Msg #8540 Dated 11:20:39 03-18-91 8528 <--> 8570
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Not his NEWEST ILLUSION... It is SHE that PENETRATES HIM!
Msg #8541 Dated 11:21:09 03-18-91 8529 <--> 8565
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Cassa Beer
Msg #8542 Dated 11:22:09 03-18-91 8532 <--> 8550
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: GYPSY CURSE
Many thanks, Max. I still can't find my set of cards, so will contact
Art. Trick You Can Count On (West) is one of my favorites with a trick
I use CONSTANTLY (with the four jacks and rubber ball finish). Good
stuff as Johnny Carson says... Got my library in 90 percent order,
alphabetical at last. Found aboaut 20
dupes!!!
Error above line.
should read. Alphabetical at last. Found about 20 dupes!
Next chore is the props! Still in about 20 - 30 boxes! Arrrggghhh.
Will you be at Seminar?
Msg #8543 Dated 11:25:57 03-18-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: BOOX
H&R Books: Just checking out some things. I have Issues 1 and 2
(Garcia 4 aces and Dingle coin assy) of the NEW "Stars of Magic",
I see Rosenthall listed as issue no. 5. If you still have it, I
would like it. Also what are the others? 3 and 4, and are there
any others to complete the set?I have just about finished putting all
my library into shelves
and IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT.... have put them into alphabetical
order (finding about 20 duplicates!!!)Will be doing more sorting and
might have some questions later.
Msg #8546 Dated 16:04:41 03-18-91 -> 8548
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: WHO CARES?
If anyboyd cares (?) I will be at the Magic Castle for lunch (actually
to check out the sculpture) Sunday following the Desert Seminar. I will
probably be in disguise so nobody will recobonize me! Hey, I like
modern art. After all, I had 20 minutes to kill one day in Paris, so I
went to the Louvre. You ask, "What would you do there in only 20
minutes?" Well, I figured there wasn't enough time to look at manhy
things, so I practically RAN to the Mona Lisa (I'm a fan of Lenny D'V)
and stood there for the whole time! Then split for the airport!
Msg #8547 Dated 16:07:15 03-18-91 -> 8549
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: HELP
Anybody out there know where I can purchase (or steal, borrow, swap)
the card trick (with instructions) called "The Gypsy Curse"?
Msg #8548 Dated 16:23:07 03-18-91 8546 <--> 8556
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHO CARES?
So you think the Mona Lisa is modern art. Say, just how old are you
anyway?
Msg #8549 Dated 16:44:59 03-18-91 8547 <--> 8554
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HELP
I used to have one. If I can find you at D.M. next weekend, I'll Bring
it. I'm not sure if I want to sell it, but we may be able to work out
something.
I won't be able to attend the sessions, but I should be at the Friday
breakfast.
Msg #8550 Dated 17:00:16 03-18-91 8542 <--> 8555
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GYPSY CURSE
I will not be in Las Vegas. Let me know what you have in duplicate, if
you're looking to sell off some of them...
Msg #8551 Dated 17:53:56 03-18-91 -> 8588
From: GREGORY MCKAY
To: STEVE SILVERMAN (X)
Re: MAGIC
Well, Steve, here I am in Marvin Stern
ffice, and we decided to leave
you a message. So, Mr. JPL - HELLO from both of us.
Msg #8552 Dated 18:18:22 03-18-91 8538 <--> 8569
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: WILLIAM ZETTLER (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
I'm going to see Copperfield next monday (the 25th) in Berkeley. This
should be good! Any further news (beside the O.E. vanish on what will
be done on the special?
Msg #8554 Dated 18:51:23 03-18-91 8549 <--> 8557
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: HELP
I know I have it somewhere, Pete. I'll look through my box of packet
tricks. It'll probably be in the 5% that's not by Phil Goldstein.
Msg #8555 Dated 18:54:00 03-18-91 8542 <--> 8559
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GYPSY CURSE
Let me know what you've got in duplicate, Pete. I'm always looking to
fill those pesky holes in the ol' magic library.
Msg #8556 Dated 19:20:57 03-18-91 8548 <--> 8583
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHO CARES?
First time I saw Moan (that's what Lennie called her) the paint was
still wet on the bottom of the barrell. (You do know the famed portrait
WAS painted on the bottom of a large wooden barrell, then cut square).
Got the billiard table cloth ready to bring to L.V. fo' ya.
Msg #8557 Dated 19:22:34 03-18-91 8549 <--> 8558
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: HELP
I will be there working. Matter of fact... I need some volunteers for
Thursday "Impromm
"Impromptu" close up sessions. Obie O'Brien and Roger Klause run this
session, but Obie is recovering (Fine, I talked to him other day) from
heart surgery and asked me to take his place putting the show together.
Msg #8558 Dated 19:23:52 03-18-91 8554 <--> 8580
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HELP
I found the cards, just need the text of the routine.
Msg #8559 Dated 19:24:27 03-18-91 8550 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: GYPSY CURSE
Max, will either post to you Prive or call you tonite or tomorrow.
Msg #8561 Dated 19:50:34 03-18-91 -> 8576
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: ALL
Re: SEANCE MAG
I visited Cassadaga, Florida, last summer. Most interesting
place. My notes on the visit should appear in the next issue
of SEANCE. Hope to see many of you in a couple of days in Las
Vegas.
Msg #8563 Dated 20:17:43 03-18-91 -> 8572
From: HOWARD SCHWARZMAN
To: ALL
Re: DANNY
Last week while vacationing in the Florida Keys I ran into an
old friend of many years, a magician with whom I performed
many times, Danny Johnson. Danny has moved to Key West,
Florida and is attempting to make a living performing street
magic at Mallory Square.
Danny is in his forties and is profoundly deaf but if you saw
him performing on stage, to music, you wouldn't know he was
handicap-ped. I knew him as a kid in New York City when he
was one of Doc Hurwitz' boys. He did, and still does, an
excellent magic act.
Danny has been working school shows and club shows around the
country for many years and has appeared on shows at many
magic conventions. But, the bottom has dropped out of the
school business because the demand has shifted from
entertainment to educational programs.
Danny does card productions and manipulations, linking rings,
a Mickey Mouse levitation, 3 to 1 rope, among other things.
I suggested that he learn George Sands' ROPESATIONAL, MISER'S
DREAM and EGG BAG. He is a pretty good mime and uses a lot
of body language.
Spaces on the pier are assigned by a draw each evening.
Unfortunately the competition from the talking performers is
strong and when he is positioned between two talking acts he
is overpowered.
Danny would greatly appreciate any suggestions regarding what
tricks or routines to perform that do go well on the street.
Keep in mind that his speech is impaired and his voice is
soft due to his deafness.
I've never done street magic but perhaps some of you have.
If you folks have any suggestions, ideas, bits of business
that you can share, I will compile, print and send them to
him. Of course, I will post his replies for all to see.
MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, suggestions regarding HOW TO GET THE
MONEY would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. to Pete Biro: Danny is planning to come to Baltimore
for the convention and would like to know if you can use him
as a performer. If so, I will give you his address.
P.P.S. We had a great evening seeing and visiting with Jeff
McBride who was performing at the Tennessee Williams Theater
in Key West.
Msg #8564 Dated 20:25:00 03-18-91 8530 <--> 8587
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
No, it doesn't bode well at all - these were rack packaged with
standard seals. I think we should take the suggestion that was made
here and send samples back to U.S.P.C.C. with a complaint.
Msg #8565 Dated 20:29:24 03-18-91 8541 <--> 8573
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
The following is a true story - once when I lived in Tampa, I had to
give a speech. Now, how do you address your fellow citizens of Tampa?
Msg #8566 Dated 20:30:02 03-18-91 -> 8589
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: BOOX
Pete Biro -- Books I have in Duplicate to peddle!Dunninger's Complete
Encyclopedia of Magic. Cloth bound, black
(no jacket) 288 pgs., 8x11. Cond: VG (slight stain INSIDE back
cover).First Call to Cards. Stewart James. Paper, gray, 24 pages. 6x9.
Germain the Wizard and his Legerdemain. Stuart Cramer. Paper,
Blue, very slight spotting on cover, 155 pages. 5-1/2x8-1/2.Show
Stoppers With Cards. Hugard/Braue. Paper, yellow, 16 pages.Has been
creased vertically in half. Soft covers allow" this.
Not a mint, or collector copy, but the famed Fred Kaps favorite,
the "Homing Card" resides between the covers. 6x9.John Ramsay's Routine
with the Cups and Balls. Victor Farelli.
Cloth bound, red, 5-1/2x8-1/2. 103 pages. Excellent Cond. Great
routine. I have two sets of alloy cups I had specially made to
use for this routine. They are a little taller than those shown,
in the book, but have the top recess for the paper coils. Might
be willing to sell. Make offer on cups.Further Magic of the Hands.
Edward Victor. Cloth, green, 6x9, 113
pages. Excellent cond.More Tricks of the Television Stars. Unique
Studio, London.
Features Ken Brooke's version of the three card trick (Dutch
Looper) similar to Pat Page "Kitson Miracle" but the way Ken did
it in the marketplaces as a pitch! On page 41 there is a
principle of a card rise that has an amazing similarity to the
Severn/Biro effect (different look, similar motiviation!!)Paper, Red,
48 pages, 6x9-1/2. Veddy good cond.DAI VERNON BOOK OF MAGIC. Ganson.
1st Ed. Cloth, Black, 239
pages. A true collector's item.Memoirs of Robert Houdin. First Ed., (C)
1945, Cloth, Cond. Exc.,
Dust Jacket shows some wear. 458 Pages. 5-1/2x8.Close Up Fantasies
"Finale". Paul Harris. Cloth, Black, 5-1/2x9.
175 pages + ads in back. Mint Cond.Adventures in Telepathy and How to
Stage a PSI Party. Farrar.
1962. Paper, Blue, 5-1/2x8-1/2, 16 pages. TWO COPIES.Smart Business.
McCathy. Paper, Red, 6x9 (first ed) some loose
pages (re-stapling would fix) (I will try). Otherwise VG cond
(has a few notes in my scrawled hand inside) (Marking stuff I
liked at the time -- making it something like Vernon's notes in
Revelations(?)! Robert Orben's Encyclopedia of One Liner Comedy.
Book 1, 2, 3, 4
and 7. Each Paperback, different colors, 6x9, 32 pages. jThe Trade Show
Handbook. Bud Dietrich and Dick Jarrow (the latter
just passed away). Paper, Blue, 7x9, 46 pages. Mint cond.Methods for
Miracles. Willane. (Killer material here) Each is 6-1/2x8-1/4, Paper,
Yellow. Volumes: 2 (Edward Victor's famed ring
and rope material), Vol. 3 (E. G. Brown's Wandering Card), Vol. 8
(Edward Victor's Sympathetic Reverse and CARD IN THE ACES --
preceded card in wallet...revive it and have a miracle!! (Right
Maven)? It is a NO Palm method to find a card between a packet of
aces that were in your pocket, wrapped with rubber bands. No
gaffs. Vol. 11 (Edw. Victor Cigarette Manip). Another Vol. 2, but
cover is misprinted Vol. 12.Cornelius Card System. John Cornelius.
Paper, Manuscript, Yellow
cover. 6 8-1/2x11 pages. TWO COPIES.LECTURE NOTES: Billy McComb,
paper, 5-1/2x8-1/2, 28 Pages. Pic on cover
shows Billy with shot glass out of egg bag. Fun and Magic For
Children. Edwin (Hooper) of Supreme.
Paper, 7x9-1/2, 24 pages. THREE COPIES. You Don't Have to be
Good - or How Not to be BAD. Dick
Zimmerman. Paper, 8-1/2x11, 18 pages typeset, good paper stock.OLD
MAGAZINES: Goldston's Magical Quarterly. Will Goldston. Several
copies. Vol. 5, No. 1, 1938 (1 copy) - Vol. 2, No. 3, 1935 (9
copies in Exc. cond, 1 fair). Am LOOKING FOR Vol. 6, Nos.
1,2,3,4. The Magic Magazine. Will Goldston. 12 Copies of Vol. 7,
No.
1, Dec. 1919. 7 copies of Vol. 7, No. 2, Jan. 1920. Size 7-1/4x9-3/4,
cover blue and orange. SCARCE: Will Goldston's Easy Road to
Magic "in seven lessons" -
Will Goldston. Unusual publication. Paper, much like the early
Tarbell courses, gray paper cover, individual pages, bound with
two holes at top. I have 2. One has orig. Purple ribbon thru
holes, other has brass fastners. First is in VG cond, second is a
little worn looking on the cover. Both EXC inside. 46 pages, 7-1/3x10.
These, and the magazines are part of a RUSH load I
grabbed out of Davenport's Crypt many moons ago. Didn't know they
were all the same magazines, thought I was getting a run. But
that's OK, my loss your gain.I have a COMPLETE (except for one easy to
get issue) FILE of the
GEN. Not sure if I want to sell. Any offers to tempt me? Same
with IBIDEM -- have quite a few, but don't have listed. Any
interest in these?I honestly don't know the prices any of the above are
worth. The
two telepathy books are probably worth $1 (but at that price you
pay the postage -- I'm not Abbotts!!! You have my address. jd L.A.
Sunday for Castle Lunch). Working Sat. Nite at the Rose Bowl,
taking pictures. Got to pay the rent!!!
Note: Might be interested in swapping. I need: Hugard Braue: Exp Card
Technique, Encyl. of Card Tricks, Royal Road to Card Magic.
Duke Stern's Thimble Magic. Other's but I can't find my notes. Grrr.
Msg #8569 Dated 20:34:19 03-18-91 8538 <--> 8628
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WILLIAM ZETTLER (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Thanks for the report, William, it was a good one.
Msg #8570 Dated 20:34:52 03-18-91 8540 <--> 8633
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Yeah, I know. Apparently a design requirement. But you are right -
this could lead to exotic speculations.
Msg #8572 Dated 20:36:09 03-18-91 8563 <--> 8577
From: PETE BIRO
To: HOWARD SCHWARZMAN (X)
Re: DANNY
Thanks much. Let me know address, etc. We are booked up, but never know
what might change. There is a great spoot across from Hotel on the
waterfront for street workers and he could make mucho dinero there.
Tell him to talk to Jay Marshall about getting the Money.
Msg #8573 Dated 20:37:32 03-18-91 8565 <--> 8578
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Former residents would be TAMPAXes?
Msg #8576 Dated 20:40:37 03-18-91 8561 <--> 8616
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Look forward to seeing you on Friday Morning, Steve. Will be very
interested in your article on Cassadaga. Would you mind sending me a
copy when it is in print?
Msg #8577 Dated 20:43:51 03-18-91 8563 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: HOWARD SCHWARZMAN (X)
Re: DANNY
T. Meyers has shirts, hats, and signs that say "I Work for Tips." The
backgrounds are replica dollar bills.
Msg #8578 Dated 20:47:13 03-18-91 8573 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
I called 'em "Tamponians."
Msg #8580 Dated 21:10:08 03-18-91 8547 <--> 8586
From: JIM SISTI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HELP
Emerson & West still make it and it should be available from any shop
but if you don't have any luck, I think I can scare up a set for you.
Msg #8581 Dated 21:21:49 03-18-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: WEATHER
It is Monday, March 18, 1991 here at Techy Heaven... And a most welcome
rain is pelting down. Thunderstorms are in the area and the power is
flickering. So I would recommend that you avoid performing long
downloads this evening.
Msg #8583 Dated 22:25:52 03-18-91 8556 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHO CARES?
Thanx for rememberin the green cloth. Bring your book list to Vegas if
you think of it. See you thus night.
Msg #8584 Dated 22:30:49 03-18-91
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC WORKSHOP
I know this is a late post but it may be something for some of you out
there. Attend if you can it should be a good workshop!
I.B.M. Ring 21 Presents a Magic Workshop with Andy Maas
When: Tuesday March 19th at 7:30pm
Call: Joe Selph at (213)660-2998 for resevations and directions
Where: Silver Lake area (Hyperion and Griffith Park blvd)
Cost: $10.00 (cash only please)
Andy Maas is visiting from Germany. He will present a hands-on
workshop for anyone interested in attending. You may have seen
him perform at the Magic Castle recently. He will be returning
home to Germany soon, this may be your last chance to see him.
If you want to attend you need to contact Joe Selph at the number
listed above, preferably before 1:00pm on Tuesday the 19th.
You will need to bring the following items with you:
1. A deck of playing cards
2. 5 half dollars (or other coins you are comfortable with)
3. A small clear glass
This will be limited to a small group but there is still space.
Hope some of you can make it.
Msg #8586 Dated 23:11:03 03-18-91 8580 <--> 8626
From: PETE BIRO
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: HELP
I found a set. Thanks. and wonderful help from several here online led
me to Dingle's book and his handling, which is next best to Kaps
versijon with ungaffed cards which I still can't figure out.
Msg #8587 Dated 23:44:47 03-18-91 8564 <--> 8592
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
So we're _sure_ that these are the lesser-quality cards, and not the
new permanent condition from US Playing Cards?
Msg #8588 Dated 23:47:10 03-18-91 8551 <-
From: STEVE SILVERMAN
To: GREGORY MCKAY
Re: MAGIC
Hi guys!!
Nice to know you're thinking of me. Thanks again Greg for the
spiffy S/W. Hope to see you folks soon......
Steve
Msg #8589 Dated 23:51:44 03-18-91 8566 <--> 8602
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOX
Would love to purchase all the "Methods for Miracles" you mentioned as
a set. Let me know how you'd like to handle this.
Msg #8590 Dated 23:54:15 03-18-91 8338 <--> 8771
From: STEVE SILVERMAN
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: 3 COIN TRICK
Doug, I'll be at the Castle again on 3/28...probably. Let me know
when your free to go again (hopefully on a Thurs) and I'll meet
you there.
Msg #8592 Dated 23:57:33 03-18-91 8587 <--> 8598
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
No, we aren't - except that some are saying they are still getting good
Bicycle cards. Personally, I suspect that it is a new manufacturing
technique, more automated, but they didn't spend bucks for quality
automation. I plan to send some back and let U.S.P.C.C. figure it out.
Msg #8596 Dated 5:59:06 03-19-91 -> 8605
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: ALL
Re: SEMINAR
I envy you guys going to the Seminar. You're in for a real treat.
We had Roy Johnson in last night and he was great. Lots of real
practical stuff. Although he says he doesn't use any sleight of hand,
he does some very clever handling -- see if you catch the switch. His
"routineing" is excellent. Sure wish I could make it to Las Vegas, but
I have to go to Florida this week.
Charlie
Msg #8598 Dated 7:01:42 03-19-91 8592 <--> 8601
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
OK,
I called US Playing Card yesterday and talked to two
different people before I got put on hold "forever" and since it
was my dime I didn't "hang" long. I asked them why the quality
control seemed to be going downhill in some respects. Got
shuffled and then dropped. Customer service promised to call back
yesterday but didn't - maybe today???.
Call 513-396-5700 ask for Jo Anne Worley (yep, thats what
it sounded like) in Customer Service to find out. Maybe since
California is sinking into the deep blue they're sending all
their culls and seconds out there since it doesn't matter any
more.
Idid get some "good" decks recently, but I'm not a heavy
user and a dozen will last me a while. Maybe a call or two to
some of the local hivol dealers will net some more info. USPCC
was quite nice but didn't deny the contention. Maybe I'm not
assertive enuf. Could be automation as you suspect and most card
players prob don't mind. Plus, machines don't do card trix (Max
probably knows one, but like I sed, I lead a sheltered life).
Msg #8599 Dated 7:13:35 03-19-91 7998 <--> 8754
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: RING 21
Sorry it took me this long to return your message but have been busy.
I am glad you enjoyed yourself and you, as well as everyone on the
board, are ALWAYS welcome to stop by the Ring. We will look forward to
seeing you again.
Msg #8600 Dated 7:17:08 03-19-91 8055 <--> 8610
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: RING 21 FLASHPAPER
I know I found out at the RING 21 meeting on the 7th. I was sorry to
here of his passing as he was one of the individuals who encourged me
to try out and join the MAGIC CASTLE. He also gave a few lectures on
Midway Magic at the RING 21 meetings and he will be missed by at least
myself. As I heard someone say the other day, "God must me having a
Magic convention this year with all the magicians dying of late".
Msg #8601 Dated 8:20:41 03-19-91 8598 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE CARDS
Haines House of Cards in Cincinatti would probably be a better source
of answers as they have been distributing U.S. Playing Cards forever.
Msg #8602 Dated 8:21:42 03-19-91 8589 <--> 8613
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BOOX
OK, Evan. Got to figure a price both of us will like. Be in touch soon.
Msg #8605 Dated 8:24:21 03-19-91 8596 <--> 8607
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: SEMINAR
Florida? Sunshine, bikinis... wanna swap?
Msg #8607 Dated 8:50:29 03-19-91 8605 <--> 8609
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SEMINAR
I'm gonna hate myself for saying this and promise to stop being a
smarta** after this but, Do I get the impression you guys are gonna be
swapping bikinis in Florida? Sorry, goodbye..........!
Msg #8609 Dated 9:02:31 03-19-91 8607 <--> 8617
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEMINAR
Best place to do it, Tabman.
Msg #8610 Dated 9:06:12 03-19-91 8600 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: RING 21 FLASHPAPER
Yeah, the year sure did seem to start out wrong. But there are some new
magicians coming along.
Msg #8613 Dated 9:51:07 03-19-91 8566 <--> 8619
From: TREVOR GRIFFITHS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOX
Hi Pete,
I am a cups and balls nut...so to speak. I would love to pick up the
Ramsay routine book and associated set of cups. I can probably figure
out a decent offer for the book, but I have no idea what to offer for
the cups ? Do you have an asking price for both.
I'm pretty sure I have a copy of the Royal Road to Card Magic. I'll
check when I get home tonight.
By the Way ..I think we are almost neighbors... I live over in Los
Gatos.I performed at the OMC last year.
the spagheti feed that is.
Best Regards
Trev...
oops alomost forgot also interested in the Goldston book "Easy Road to
Magic". I need to check my Goldston Magazine files as well.
Msg #8616 Dated 10:11:57 03-19-91 8576 <--> 8621
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Be glad to send you a copy of the Cassadaga piece. To tip the
main point, I was disappointed that none of the mediums would
do seances with materializations. See you in LV.
Msg #8617 Dated 10:13:46 03-19-91 8607 <--> 8620
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEMINAR
Not swapping nuttin... jus' day dreamin'
Msg #8619 Dated 10:16:24 03-19-91 8613 <--> 8635
From: PETE BIRO
To: TREVOR GRIFFITHS (X)
Re: BOOX
Filed your msg. got to rush to an appt. I used to do the Spag feeds in
ld days, I live in Walnut Creek, now... back to you later... bye
Msg #8620 Dated 10:47:27 03-19-91 8617 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SEMINAR
Oh, ok.
Msg #8621 Dated 10:50:10 03-19-91 8616 <--> 8624
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
OK, thanks. Will see you at Desert Magic.
Msg #8622 Dated 10:50:43 03-19-91 -> 8627
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
Spoke with Mr. Jim Moore, the manager of Quality Control for U.S.
Playing Cards. Mr. Moore tells me that U.S.P.C.C. does NOT sell
seconds under the Bicycle brand name. He did say that while 99.35%
of Bicycle cards pass their inspections, he does get a large number
of complaints from magicians.
"You have to realize," he said, "we do not make a magician's card.
We make a card for the general public."
He did say that in 1986 U.S.P.C.C. did have a strike and that,
during that period, there were a large number of defective cards
produced and shipped. He said that some of these could still be in
the pipeline and, conceivably, could still be purchased. He checked
the number on my discrepant deck (Found on the Ace of Spades, in my
case the number is N1601) and said that it would appear to be of
recent manufacture. Cards with numbers beginning with "M" may have
been manufactured during that earlier period.
He said that the quality of Bicycle decks is well controlled. He
himself has a background in quality control and is a former member
of the American Society for Quality Control (ASQC). He said that
casino decks (usually produced with the casino's name on them,
but also produced with a special "Bumble Bee" design similar to
the Bee deck) are produced to a higher standard and that he might
speak with sales and marketing about producing magician's quality
Bicycle decks at the casino standard.
"Of course," he said, "these could not be sold at the regular deck
price."
Mr. Moore was astounded that the cards could have been retailed for
99-cents per deck. He has asked me to send a sample deck to him.
Msg #8624 Dated 11:13:41 03-19-91 8616 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SEANCE MAG
Hi Steve....
Good column you've been writing of late in SEANCE re:
Apparitions..Now that SEANCE is about to end maybe you can favour
us with your Apparitions here on MAGIC!.
I guess since we're on the same thread that you know I
had lunch (actually I think MPTV bought) with your editor Scott
the other day and found we had much in common. Good guy.
Hope you'll look me up in LV this weekend. Will be
staying through Sun noon and am reg at Trop for the Seminar and
will be in late thus night.
My xmomnlaw did live in Cassedega for some years but she
wasn't a medium, she was sort of well done. Looking forward to
seeing the piece in the mag as haven't been there in well over a
decade - almost two now that I think of it.
Look me up unless I find you 1st.
tabman
sg #8625 Dated 11:14:27 03-19-91 -> 8665
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: FAN MAIL
Hi T A...
Thought you might be interested department:
A young man who lives closeby in Mechanicsville, MD, Rudy
called me the other night and was telling about his video library
(over 70 tapes) and offering to do some lending back and forth as
he's interested in reading some of the books I have here.
He ordered your new video from your ad in Genii a coupla
months ago so I asked him what he thought of it and he said
"Strong, strong stuff...a couple of mindblowers too. Really
good!"
So it looks like he really likes it and wanted me to pass
that along to you.
tabman
sg #8626 Dated 11:26:39 03-19-91 8547 <--> 8646
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HELP
I looked last night through my boxes (sound familiar?) and found
Gypsy Curse routines by : Frank Garcia, Derek Dingle, and
Christian Chelman, but NO CARDS!!
I'll keep looking, but don't hold your breath. It seems like
these things know when you're looking for them and they know how
to hide VERY WELL.
You're welcome to look at the routines, if that helps any.
Msg #8627 Dated 11:34:15 03-19-91 8622 <--> 8641
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
Cards I just recently bought from Hank Lees ate M1610 and
look ok. I looked around in my drawers and found a coupla decks
from a dozen I bought some years back and opened one and the case
number is E1607. The E1607 is a superior card and is obviously
much older if they're following the letter serially. The printing
is much sharper, the stock thicker and the ink a tad darker. The
linin finish on the stock is more pronounced being similar to old
Tallye Ho stock.
Glad you got through to them. Must be that official
sounding voice. The took one listen to Gomer Tabman and shuffled
me off to Customer Services voice mail system. Good work and
thanks.
Msg #8628 Dated 11:48:46 03-19-91 8552 <--> 8787
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Scott, look for a "Doug Henning" water levitation redone.
It was featured in David's last visit to L.V. but was cut this time.
It is set in a Brazilian rain forest theme with the lady at his feet on
a platform. The water rises from the ground like a fountain and she
rises with it. After some moves by David, she rotates clear around him
and then settles back on stage.(Pendragon's do this also)
Let us know if he has put this back in the show, as I think it's one of
the best I've seen in a while, and HOPE that he uses it in his special.
Msg #8630 Dated 15:12:00 03-19-91 -> 8631
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEMINAR, BIKINI'S, NEWSLE
Actually Tabby, I'm buying one of Fred Kaps old bikini's from Pete.
It has been gimmicked to do the "nearly naked levitation"! There's
also a toppit built in.
Don't worry about the newsletter money. I'm trying to establish an
arrangement with other Texas and Louisiana magic clubs to send each
other our respective newsletters so we can keep up with what is going
on. So I just consider yours part of that arrangement. Also I'll
check to see if Scott minds my uploading his article. I'm trying to
get him to sign on (has computer and modem and even knows how to use
them). Took forever to get him to get in touch with Jim Sisti and
Magic Menu, but he finally did. Almost forgot, what'd you get from Al
Mann.
Oh, on your recommendation we're trying to get the Erdnase book.
Thanks.
Charlie
Msg #8631 Dated 15:44:06 03-19-91 8630 <--> 8648
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: SEMINAR, BIKINI'S, NEWSLE
From AME slate books vol III, IV. Have an interest in building primo
slates. Don't know why, just interested. I have Will Goldston's bikini
that he wore on the beach the summer of
1920. The famous "Locked Bilkini". I'm sure you're familiar. On your
new list: Am looking for "Spook Crooks" by J.J.P. am interested in
building a table he outlines there. Wish you were gonna be in the
desert with us. We'll miss you.
Msg #8633 Dated 16:25:25 03-19-91 8522 <--> 8649
From: RANDY LUND
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Marilyn and I are working up a routine to use in the Abbotts
compepetion at this years Abbotts get together. It will begin by
producing Marilyn in something akin to a Thayer Cabinet as my well
engineered assistant. The following tricks generally revolve around a
theme of my getting the magicians assistant to do something, which she
always gets wrong to begin with but magically gets rught in the end and
much to my chagrin. After several attempts I have had enough and send
my created being back to her box to be vanished. But in spinning the
curtain to vanish her we change places and I am in the box yelling for
her to let me out. She then spins the curtain one more time and I
vanish. She walks of to the ???applause???. The design of the box
caused a problem as i had to enlarge certain areas to fit my 225lbs and
yet keep the proportions proper. At any rate it is coming, I should
start construction of the device in about two weeks after I finish the
detailed design on my cad system.
.
RAndy
Msg #8634 Dated 16:49:49 03-19-91 -> 8638
From: ERIC RONNE
To: ALL
Re: MUSCLE PASS
I'm looking for good applicatof the muscle pass. J. Corneliu
uses it to make a coin "fall up," but aside from that, I haven't found
any great uses for it. Notions and/or references greatly appreciated!
P.S. A big thanks to Maven/Biro for your quick response to my Orig box
question.
Msg #8635 Dated 18:16:30 03-19-91 8602 <--> 8652
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOX
Lemme know
Msg #8638 Dated 18:47:42 03-19-91 8634 <--> 8650
From: MAX MAVEN
To: ERIC RONNE (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
A highly offbeat type of muscle pass is Masao Atsukawa's "M.A. Pass"
which is described in the book "New Magic of Japan." There are some
excellent applications also given, but there's far more that can be
done with it; Atsukawa has some extraordinary ideas.
Msg #8640 Dated 20:10:28 03-19-91 -> 8644
From: JIM SISTI
To: ALL
Re: COPPERFIELD ON ARSENIO
In case you didn't know, Copperfield is on Arsenio Hall tonight.
Msg #8641 Dated 20:30:58 03-19-91 8627 <--> 8659
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
I don't know what year the "E" series was produced in, but Mr. Moore
did say that the cards of "20-years ago" were manufactured differently.
I've sent him the discrepant deck, and an unopened one, for him to take
a look at.
I didn't start with a customer complaint - I told the man at the
switchboard that I wanted to interview someone concerning quality.
Msg #8644 Dated 20:40:30 03-19-91 8640 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD ON ARSENIO
I, for one, didn't know. Thanks, Jim.
Msg #8646 Dated 21:24:18 03-19-91 8626 <--> 8689
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: HELP
Thanks David. I found (thru help here on MAGIC!) The Dingle Routine and
like it. I also found cards. Chelman's I might like. Are you coming to
the Desert Seminar?
Msg #8648 Dated 21:27:33 03-19-91 8631 <--> 8683
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEMINAR, BIKINI'S, NEWSLE
Cheez you won't believe it, I just tried to figure out where to file
"Spook Crooks" and didn't know how to classify it so I stuck it in a
"random" shelf. NOw if I can remember where it is...?
Re: Kaps Bikini. I can't believe you guys know a little about it.
Actually it is a custom made LEATHER (THAT'S KINKY) unit, he called a
"holster" (he gave me one) for hlding your props when you have tight
clothing. All my clothing has shrunk, lately, too? Hmemmmeljj?
Msg #8649 Dated 21:29:59 03-19-91 8633 <--> 8698
From: PETE BIRO
To: RANDY LUND (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Have you THOUGHT abouat complete Role Reversal. SHE starts as the
Magician and you are the dummy the employment agency sent over to be
the assistant? Hmmmmm....
Not enuf people think of "playlets" --- Think about it....
Msg #8650 Dated 21:31:10 03-19-91 8634 <--> 8651
From: PETE BIRO
To: ERIC RONNE (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
The Muscle Pass is a fraud. Cornelius actually was filmed hanging
upside down.
Msg #8651 Dated 21:31:43 03-19-91 8638 <--> 8667
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Proof again. Japan is on the other side of the planet.
Msg #8652 Dated 21:32:32 03-19-91 8635 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BOOX
Ten Bucks.
Msg #8657 Dated 22:05:40 03-19-91 -> 8660
From: MIKE MAXWELL
To: ALL
Re: JAPANESE BULLITEN BOARD
Has anyone out there ever heard of "Nifti-Serve"? (I'm not sure of the
spelling). All I know is that is it supposedly a japanese bulliten
board. If you have any info (like a phone #), please let me know.
Supposedly you can advertise on it. Thanks.
________________________________________________________________________
Msg #8659 Dated 23:31:00 03-19-91 8622 <--> 8661
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
I'm unclear -- was Moore, in denying that they sold seconds, also
denying that there was an inferior level of cards sold in drugstores
and the like?
..It would be interesting to get casino-quality cards, wouldn't it?
Personally, I don't believe the guy when he says quality may have been
different twenty years ago -- I'm _positive_ the quality was different
ten and even five years ago. Forgetting the printing and all that, the
_finish_ is what bugs me the most -- it just doesn't last as long.
..Of course you'll let us know if there's some real good scandal
dredged up when Moore gets the cheap Bike cards. Maybe the same person
who was selling the bootlegged Osterlind Video is behind the CVS Bike
cards!
..
I'm trying to remember where I read that second-level Bike cards were
sold in drug stores and the like -- does it sound familiar to you?
Msg #8660 Dated 23:41:55 03-19-91 8657 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE MAXWELL
Re: JAPANESE BULLITEN BOARD
Matt Matsuyama, the co-sysop of the magic section on Nifty-Serve, is a
periodic visitor here. Maybe he can help you. I think there is a way
to access it via CompuServe (Go Nifty).
Msg #8661 Dated 23:44:01 03-19-91 8659 <--> 8671
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
I had not heard the story that second-level Bike cards were sold in
drug stores, etc., until a few days ago on here. Could be rumor or
speculation.
Yes, he WAS denying the idea that any "seconds" left the factory in
Bike boxes. As to the quality five years ago, he says that there was
a strike going on in 1986 and that the quality that year was VERY POOR.
He joined the firm two years ago as manager of quality control and says
that he has implemented many process control procedures.
Two decks of my cards, one opened and showing defects and one unopened,
are on the way to him. I will report back to MAGIC! with his comments.
Msg #8662 Dated 23:50:28 03-19-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC2DB
MAGIC2DB - The Magician's Database, Release 2.4, has been uploaded
to MAGIC! by Randy Lund. This new version of the MS-DOS program
improves on the already great MAGICDB in several ways:
* The program now includes a patter database
* Tricks can be described as having multiple types of props
* There is new support for various video monitors, including
monochrome
* A wide carriage printer is no longer required
* File routines have been enhanced
If you are not already familiar with MAGICDB, you may wish to first
download the documentation file, MAGIC2DB.DOC, to discover what this
unique program does.
There are three files related to MAGIC2DB:
* MAGIC2DB.EXE - The program itself
* MAGIC2DB.DOC - The user's manual in ASCII format
* CONVERT.EXE - A program to convert existing MAGICDB
files to the new MAGIC2DB format
You can download these individually from the MAGIC! files area, or,
if you are familiar with the ZIP file compression program, you can
download all three in one nice condensed package - MAGIC2DB.ZIP.
NOTE: Randy and Marilyn Lund have worked long and hard on this
program. After much consideration of releasing it as a comercial
package they have decided to release it as shareware exclusively
through MAGIC! and MAGIC-NL. They are asking for a small fee ($25)
to become a registered user. Registered users receive a desktop
published version of the documentation along with other benefits.
Magic is a small field for which to produce shareware, so if you
like MAGIC2DB, you are strongly encouraged to register.
Registration instructions are included in the MAGIC2DB
documentation.
Msg #8665 Dated 2:08:35 03-20-91 8625 <-
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FAN MAIL
Thanks for passing along the message -- always nice to hear that
someone likes my stuff.
Msg #8667 Dated 8:44:30 03-20-91 8634 <-
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: ERIC RONNE (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Eric, If you're coming to D.M. this week, watch Johnny "Ace"
Palmer. He has some very nice muscle pass handlings.
If not:
Try "pouring" money out of an empty glass by "muscle passing"
into the inverted glass and let the coin drop back out into your
hand. It will look as if the coin appeared in the glass as it was
falling.
Also, try a fake transfer and slap the "coin" from one side of
maybe a sliding glass door, as you "muscle pass" the coin onto
the glass and allow it to fall back into your hand. J.Palmer,
during the Close-up Convention here in Las Vegas last winter was
even contemplating having coins fall out of the slot machines but
thought better of it wocused on
him.
I don't claim originality for the above, so all the credit must
go to Johnny "Ace" Palmer for showing these to me. If you can,
please get to one of his lectures and tell him thank you.
Msg #8671 Dated 9:32:30 03-20-91 8659 <--> 8684
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
I don't have time, but someone should call Haines House of Cards as
they DISTRIBUTE the Bicycles cards, etc. to magic directly from US
Playing card. Maybe the cheeeepos are Oriental forgeries?
Msg #8674 Dated 10:00:32 03-20-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: CONFUSION
There is a skosh of confustion **ON MY PART** regarding a couple of
offers on my Book List. I have downloaded the whole message base
following my offering and will sort out WHO WAS FIRST.
I am very sorry that I screwed up like this. You will find that even
Vernon made a mistake once too. Errrrggggg. Hang in there.
Msg #8676 Dated 10:19:00 03-20-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: BOOK LIST
Wayne. I have gone back and re-read the messages. Regarding the Books
I listed, the following persons responded with offers, at the following
numbers: LIST MESSAGE NO. WAS 8566. Maven in Message 8568 bought the
Ibidem file. In 8589 Evan Katz asked to buy the Methods for Miracles.
Your request was No. 8612. In 8597 Charlie Randall asked about the
IBIDEMS, Ramsay w/cups, Vernon, TV Stars, Goldston's Quarterlys.
So you see, although you replied right away after reading my offer
FORTY-SIX messages had run.
I am really sorry if my lack of keeping track at the time caused uyou
you any problems. I will be sending you a set of the duplicate Goldston
Quarterly and Magazines AT NO COST. Let me know where to mail 'em. Give
me a little time, as I am going away for nearly a week. Thanks and
again, I apologise.
Msg #8679 Dated 14:55:43 03-20-91 -> 8882
From: TABBY CRABB
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: CONOVER/FFFF
Hi Harrison,
I should be all set for FFFF. I'm on the "Paid Waiting
List" so maybe will get lucky. I haven't seen Conover ina while,
but Gloria just got a card from another of their highschool
friends so maybe we'll be getting together soon. Those
Alexandrites stick together pretty good. I haven't seen any of
his mental work, but would imagine that its good judging from the
past.
Hope to see you soon and tell Ray I said Hey, Ray!
TC
Msg #8680 Dated 14:54:14 03-20-91 -> 8681
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: VEGAS
Have a good time in Las Vegas, and see if you can't straighten Pete
out. Business keeps me from going this week, but I'll be there next
month for NAB.
We go all the time anyhow, so I'll save some money this week. There
was about one year that my wife and I went every weekend, on the plane
turn-aroung - - up in the morning and back in the evening--$20 each per
regular airline. But the markers can kill you, expecially if one likes
dices.
Enjoy yourself and come back with all kinds of goodies.
Msg #8681 Dated 15:17:20 03-20-91 8680 <--> 8691
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: VEGAS
Had a bad experience with ego and will power some years ago when we
played the Imperial Palace, but did find out why they nicknamed Dice,
"Craps".
Msg #8683 Dated 15:18:57 03-20-91 8648 <--> 8701
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SEMINAR, BIKINI'S, NEWSLE
SPOOK CROOKS isn't one of those books you're wanting to
release is it? Can probably find a copy somewhere, but since
you're coming over.......Getting ready to leave in the am. Its a
long way to desert from here. Have a coupla goodies from the
tabman shop for you and Dr. L if the glue dries tonight and
doesn't stick to the socks in my gig bag. See you tomorrow night
Great Spirit willin.
Msg #8684 Dated 15:20:32 03-20-91 8641 <--> 8692
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
That was a good idea to ask for Quaity Control. I
definately got shuffled off to Buffalo (so to speak) and she
hasn't called me back yet. Obviously they aren't what they once
were but neither am I so I can't really complain. The idea to run
special cards in the casino setup is a good idea.
Will be looking forward to your report after USPCC/QC
gets back to you after getting the decks. I'll bet you never have
to buy another deck of cards for the rest of your life if you
help them bust a one off scheme.
Good work Inspector Lichtman (Magic Police - it was bound
to happen).
taboolie
sg #8689 Dated 15:50:28 03-20-91 8626 <--> 8711
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: HELP
The Hank Lee catolog has Gypsy Curse listed at six bucks.
Msg #8691 Dated 16:11:57 03-20-91 8681 <--> 8700
From: MARVIN STERN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VEGAS
Know what you mean. Being comp'd, and taking markers means that the
ego and the fact that you are being rated, sometimes makes you play
heavier than you might want. I lack good money management, unlike my
wife who seems to know when to drag her bet. We both get on a hot
roll, and she'll win her $ 2-300 , every one else win a great deal
more, and I lose 'cause my money is still spread all over the table,
waiting for just one point. Sounds like you guys will have a ball,
unless the FROG acts up.
Msg #8692 Dated 16:44:21 03-20-91 8671 <--> 8693
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
Any idea of where Haines House of Cards is located? What state?
Msg #8693 Dated 16:49:13 03-20-91 8692 <--> 8702
From: MARVIN STERN
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
2514 Leslie Ave., Norwood, Ohio 45212l, (513) 531-6548.
Zip should read 45212.
PETE _- TABBY-DAVID another Abbott's?
Msg #8696 Dated 18:18:03 03-20-91 -> 8717
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: ALL
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
Just caught Copperfield on Arsenio Hall last night. Anybody know of any
other dates he will be on talk shows hawking his new special. He
explained all about his famous finger injury (The audience applauded
when he cut it off!), and performed the stretching a lady. Would
appreciate any dates you can give me, thanks.
Msg #8698 Dated 18:56:25 03-20-91 8649 <--> 8718
From: RANDY LUND
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Good idea, I'll broach it with Marilyn and see what she says and let
you know. Randy
Msg #8700 Dated 19:59:13 03-20-91 8681 <--> 8709
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VEGAS
I discovered you CAN go there and not gamble. I only bet when I know
what number is coming up. And that's no gamble.
Msg #8701 Dated 20:00:13 03-20-91 8683 <--> 8719
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEMINAR, BIKINI'S, NEWSLE
try Zip Lock Socks.
Msg #8702 Dated 20:00:50 03-20-91 8692 <--> 8703
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
They run ads in Linking Ring, etc. (in other end of house) and are in
Cincinatti, Ohio.
Msg #8703 Dated 20:01:42 03-20-91 8693 <--> 8706
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
Huh? Maybe Norwood, Ohio is correct? They are near Fox Lake (anybody
remember the Fox Lake cards? Named after the lake. Ta Da.
Msg #8705 Dated 20:11:41 03-20-91
From: JIM SISTI
To: ANTHONY BLAKE (X)
Re: SHELLS
When?
Msg #8706 Dated 20:35:10 03-20-91 8684 <--> 8714
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
It may or may NOT be forgeries! Had another conversation with Quality
Control at U.S.P.C.C. today, but we aren't saying anything until he
sees the cards revealed. Will probably have some info after Desert
Magic.
Msg #8709 Dated 20:40:27 03-20-91 8680 <--> 8712
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: VEGAS
Sorry you won't be able to make Desert Magic and MAGIC!'s First
Anniversary meeting. Hopefully, we will have some surprise reporting
in store for you - if all goes well.
My wife enjoys the gambling, I find it boring.
Msg #8710 Dated 20:40:53 03-20-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: OKITO CHECK AUCTION
Auction is over and we have a winner who will be announced friday
sometime here on MAGIC!. Thanks to everyone who bid. MAGIC! is now $150
more toward the future. Adios...
Msg #8711 Dated 20:43:01 03-20-91 8689 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: HELP
Getting into airport around 7:30 on Delta from Texas--Dallas or Houston
I forget which. Will be lv for apt at noon thus. Will look for you art
apt if you show. Later...
Msg #8712 Dated 20:44:23 03-20-91 8691 <--> 8713
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: VEGAS
How can you not have fun when you're with a guy who calls himself
"FROG".......
Msg #8713 Dated 20:45:02 03-20-91 8700 <--> 8727
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VEGAS
My number hasn't come up yet, but if I live long enuf it will. See you
tomorrow. Can't wait....
Msg #8714 Dated 20:45:49 03-20-91 8692 <--> 8715
From: TABBY CRABB
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
Ohio.
Msg #8715 Dated 20:46:31 03-20-91 8706 <--> 8721
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
OK, see you at the Trop tomorrow with the goods.
Msg #8717 Dated 20:47:41 03-20-91 8696 <--> 8728
From: TABBY CRABB
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
You caught Copperfield?
Msg #8718 Dated 20:48:10 03-20-91 8698 <--> 8903
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RANDY LUND (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Is the DB prog avail on 5" floppy? If so will send check as download
time too $$$ consuming.
Msg #8719 Dated 20:49:00 03-20-91 8701 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SEMINAR, BIKINI'S, NEWSLE
Zip Lock Sox. Where do the ankles go?
Msg #8721 Dated 20:50:33 03-20-91 8715 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BICYCLE DECKS
Looking forward to seeing you there, Tabman!
Msg #8727 Dated 22:10:32 03-20-91 8713 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VEGAS
I assume you will login early befo you leave for the Desert... Good
luck, good flight, got some goods for you... OH, I forgot one item,
hope it will fit in mah suitcase. Later
Msg #8728 Dated 22:11:50 03-20-91 8717 <--> 8782
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
Who threw him? Hey, just taped one of my all time fave movies... the
original BAGHDAD CAFE... GREAT MAGIC IN IT... WILD MOVIE...
Msg #8733 Dated 23:48:30 03-20-91 8481 <--> 8737
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
I was with a group of folks at the lecture Sunday and about 5 or 6 of
them turned in comment cards to the effect "lose the pig." I also had
a chance to see the Friday lunch menu explaining how Super Pig came to
be. I'll be real curious if any mention of the dissatisfaction with the
statue makes its way to a menu or the next Castle newsletter. When I
first saw the pig I was under the assumption it was a gift that
couldn't be refused. So what to do with it? Had to be moved away from
the entrance. The only thing I could come up with was to move it down
by the exit from the parking lot. Its little hooves could hold a sign
"don't drive if you've had too much to drink" or "fasten your
seatbelts" or something...
Msg #8734 Dated 23:54:21 03-20-91
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: ALL
Re: OREO COOKIES
We've been talking to the folks re: the Oreo Cookies thing. Watch the
April IM for more info as to where the auditions are, pay, etc. Hoping
to get info Friday on the tricks & who's supplying them as well. Kind
of fun!
Msg #8735 Dated 0:00:57 03-21-91 -> 8739
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: ALL
Re: COPPERFIELD
Just home from seeing Copperfield in San Bernardino. OK, you can all
tell me why I shouldn't feel this way - but I think he is GREAT! He did
the water levi, but I was a teeny bit disappointed. Basically, because
it was SO built up for me before hand. A few years back I taped a bit
of Max Maven on a late night show (have no idea, now, what it was
called), but I think the "touch the screen" trick David is planning to
do may be the same one I saw Max do a few years back. Max - am I right?
OK, so it's late so this isn't the most coherent message! David did
explain about his finger, as he did last night on Arsenio. Anyone else
catch that? Anyway, really enjoyed David's show and am looking forward
to his special. Would like to be able to tape the show and rewatch some
of the new material. Once is never enough!
Msg #8737 Dated 0:46:32 03-21-91 8733 <--> 8738
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
I've had a similar thought about moving it. There is a nice little
park a couple of blocks away...
Msg #8738 Dated 1:24:04 03-21-91 8733 <--> 8750
From: RICHARD HART
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
Great! You've hit on it! The ultimate solution. Yes, plant the thing
at the exit to the parking lot. Hang a sign on it that reads,
"If this sculpture makes sense to you, CALL A CAB!"
Wish I'd a thought of that!
Msg #8739 Dated 1:27:10 03-21-91 8735 <--> 8740
From: RICHARD HART
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Ok, I'll admit it. I, as well, like Copperfield. Took the family to
his last pass-by in L.A. at the Pantages. While waiting in line to
have pictures autographed after the show, he saw my 6 year old daughter
waiting patiently in line. He blew her a kiss. Melted her, and made
me a lifelong fan.
He's got style. He's good for magic.
... and, oh yea, I've got the hots for his assistant. Her name escapes
me at the moment, but, well, you know how it is.....
Msg #8740 Dated 2:09:31 03-21-91 8735 <--> 8824
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Indeed, I am David's "Mindgame Advisor"...
Msg #8746 Dated 6:19:07 03-21-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DESERT FLIGHT
I'm on the way. Glad its a long flight as I need the sleep. See you ina
few.
Msg #8747 Dated 6:19:53 03-21-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: DITTO
Ditto above. See you tonight. Have a safe ride.
Msg #8750 Dated 8:38:14 03-21-91 8738 <--> 8751
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
Gee...moving it would be a GREAT idea!
I know of a perfect nearby dumpster!
Msg #8751 Dated 9:46:56 03-21-91 8750 <--> 8764
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
Dump it by my studio??
Msg #8752 Dated 13:38:00 03-21-91 8065 <--> 8765
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: INFORMAL MAGIC! LUNCHEON
Has anyone HEARD FROM Mimi Hertzog lately?????
Is she still on MAGIC!???????
ARE YOU THERE MIMI?????
Msg #8753 Dated 13:42:36 03-21-91 8105 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JUGGLING CARDS
Does anyone have the ..... Oh never mind....
Msg #8754 Dated 13:47:35 03-21-91 8063 <--> 8772
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: RING 21
Are you talking about the workshop? I was to busy filming and moving
video equipment and lights around!!
Msg #8755 Dated 14:03:34 03-21-91 8093 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: GOLDSTON BOOX
Why, What's in Colon Mi David???? hehehe
Msg #8756 Dated 14:20:46 03-21-91 8201 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: FEMALE MAGICIANS
One of them is already on MAGIC! she just never says anything.
Right MIMI????
Msg #8757 Dated 14:23:10 03-21-91 8223 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: MORE MAGIC! HISTORY
We are now truly a global magic community. Do I hear three cheers for
David Lichtman who fostered this close knit community??
Msg #8758 Dated 14:30:00 03-21-91 8224 <--> 8825
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE ART
What is IT???? It may be the fact that I am not culturally inclined but
I DON'T GET IT OR LIKE IT!! I just hope they didn't pay a whole lot of
money for it because I think the money could have been put to better
use!
Msg #8759 Dated 14:48:31 03-21-91 8356 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ART?
Let me be the first to say SOMETHING nice about the eyesore in front of
the Magic Castle. It does free up some space in the landfill!!!!
Msg #8760 Dated 14:55:35 03-21-91 -> 8774
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: TWISTING
With your notes and my notes, you should have it down perfect. Right?
Msg #8761 Dated 15:01:17 03-21-91 8435 <--> 8762
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
You may use my message.
Msg #8762 Dated 15:03:48 03-21-91 8492 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
How about Nebraska as a SCARECROW!!!!! It may not scare the birds but
they may die laughing.
Msg #8763 Dated 15:15:56 03-21-91 8500 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: OREO COOKIES
How about sticking an Oreo cookie to the outside of an airplane
window?? We will have to get Ammar on this!!
Msg #8764 Dated 15:34:08 03-21-91 8751 <-
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ARTS SHMARTZ
I like ya too much to do something THAT rotten to you!
Msg #8765 Dated 15:34:40 03-21-91 8752 <--> 8773
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: INFORMAL MAGIC! LUNCHEON
I saw Mimi at the Castle one night last week. She sez she hasn't
logged on in a while and the longer it gets, the more she dreads the
thirty or forty hours it's gonna take to catch up with the message
base!
Msg #8766 Dated 15:37:40 03-21-91 -> 8826
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: ALL
Re: SO...WHERE?
Where are all the well-deserved messages of GLOWING PRAISE for Juan
Tamariz?????!!!!!
His lecture this past Sunday at the Castle was fantastic!!!
What a charming and gracious fellow!!!
What creative, ARTFUL magic!!!
Perhaps those of you who missed him at the Castle will catch up with
him in Las Vegas....for your sake, I hope so!!!
Msg #8769 Dated 23:03:36 03-21-91 -> 8770
From: RICHARD HART
To: ALL
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
Somebody call Joe Stevens. Call the cops. Call the national guard
even. File a missing person(s) report on 99.9% of the Magic! users.
Ye gads, you all can't have gone to Vegas, can you? Am I the only one
here who was unable to attend?
Well, I could always practice that one-handed Elmsley count. Work on
that bottom card cover pass. Clean the dove doo-doo out of my
harnesses. Egad, maybe even IRON my silks? Watch the Maven's
Mindgames video for the umteenth time and cheat so his predictions are
WRONG? Paste an autographed Lance Burton poster on the cape of the
"Super Pig" at the Castle? Call Pizza Man, Las Vegas, and order 150
anchovie pizzas delivered to Pete Biro's room? Try to actually GROW a
6th finger? Oh, what to do....
Do you kind of get the feeling you all are MISSED?
Msg #8770 Dated 23:19:36 03-21-91 8769 <--> 8775
From: RICHARD HART
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
Gawd, I'm talking to myself!
Oh,
I've GOT it
'm gonna get 53 decks of Stan Lake's force decks (all different) and
work all night, and re-assemble them into regular decks. Then, flip a
coin to determine whether to send them to USPCC as examples of their
cruddy QC, or sell them to Abbott's. Oh drat, I've forgotten their
address....
Msg #8771 Dated 23:36:18 03-21-91 8590 <--> 8922
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: STEVE SILVERMAN (X)
Re: 3 COIN TRICK
Thursday is a no-go... I have to work but maybe we can get together on
another thursday. Are you planning to be at IBM ring 21 mtg on the
first thurs. in april?
Let me know.
Msg #8772 Dated 23:39:28 03-21-91 8754 <-
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: RING 21
Got the Twisting aces figured out... but still need to see the Video
to get it down good.
Msg #8773 Dated 0:01:14 03-22-91 8752 <--> 8865
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: INFORMAL MAGIC! LUNCHEON
I don't think She is here... Better leave a message and see if she
responds to it.
Msg #8774 Dated 0:03:09 03-22-91 8760 <-
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: TWISTING
It makes sense after I read through the notes you sent me. I just
cant get the elmsley shuffle to look smoothe enough yet.
Msg #8775 Dated 0:06:03 03-22-91 8770 <--> 8777
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
You need to take a tranquilizer or something similar... They will
all return before too long and have wonderful stories to tell all of
the unfortunates that didn't get to go what we missed. Look on the
bright side you and I don't have a good reason to stay up all night and
miss our beauty rest.
Msg #8776 Dated 0:08:10 03-22-91
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: MIMI HERTZOG
Re: MISSING YOUR REPLIES
Thought you might like to know that we all miss having you reply to the
messages left here on Magic! We want you to know that we think of
this on a daily basis and wonder if you will ever grace us with your
reply.
Don't be shy about what you say because it will be good just to read
your words.
By the way did you get the message Darrell M. sent to you a few
messages back? He hasn't heard from you in a while and was looking for
you to leave a reply to him if you could spare the time.
Ohhhkeyy Doughkey
see ya later
Msg #8777 Dated 10:22:12 03-22-91 8770 <--> 8789
From: MARVIN STERN
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
Gee. I don't miss my wife as much, when she's out of town, as you miss
these guys.
Actually, I miss them also. In fact, I sent David-Pete-and
Tabby a fax , to the Trop. Hotel. Don't know if they'll get it or not,
but I'm sure they will have all type of goodies to tell us
about when they get home.
Try and get through the week-end. I'm off to Newport and will try and
forget.
Msg #8778 Dated 12:47:24 03-22-91 -> 8794
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: ALL
Re: NEWS FLASH!
As of last night, the Magic Castle Library is CLOSED!
It's understandable, as a few slimebuckets have been ripping off books
at an alarming rate in anticipation of the new and, hopefully, secure
library facilities. (I'd love to get my hands around the necks of
these low-life, common criminals!) Here's just one more example of how
everyone else "pays the bill" for a few rotten, worm-infested apples...
...not only are some valuable and irreplaceable reference works now
missing from the library and therefore no longer available to the
members, but NOW their despicable acts have forced the CLOSING of the
library...making ALL the reference materials unavailable to the
members! This is, thankfully, a temporary situation and the new
library is scheduled to open in about three weeks...with a security
arrangement that includes a full-time librarian...and I'm delighted to
hear that it will be none other than T A WATERS!!! It's a perfect
choice for the job!!! Congratulations to you, Tom...and to the
membership as well, who will all benefit from your integrity and
dedication.
Msg #8781 Dated 17:13:58 03-22-91 -> 8790
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Well, here we are at Desert Magic. This morning's MAGIC!
"breakfast" went great! Well over 60 people, some not yet
registered to MAGIC! and many who are in attendance. In addition to
the "How to Use MAGIC!" presentation, TABMAN displayed the
Berg-Bamberg check, as described on here previously, and announced
that the high bidder was, as if we didn't already know from his "I
won!" messages, Richard. The really beautifully framed check will
be on it's way back to L.A. and I'll arrange for the transfer.
Really can't thank Tabman enough for making this donation of such an
incredible piece of magic history and for the work of framing it so
beautifully.
-
We also presented Certificates of Appreciation and numbered,
signed MAGIC! buttons to all of the those who have been financial
supporters of MAGIC! Several were present to accept their
Certificates and buttons and the others will be mailed out during
the month of April.
-
The highlight was the surprise presentation of MAGIC!'s First "Gold
Diskette" Awards to - Pete Biro & Tabby Crabb. These inscribed
plaques feature gold diskettes mounted on them. They may become the
"Oscars" of computer magic and the first ones couldn't have been
presented to a more deserving pair.
-
NOW FOR ANOTHER MAGIC! FIRST - A DIGITIZED PHOTO, TAKEN ONLY A
COUPLE OF HOURS AGO, OF THE GOLD DISKETTE PRESENTATION TO TABBY AND
PETE (shown left to right: David Lichtman, Tabby Crabb, and Pete
Biro) IS IN THE FILES AREA. IT MAY BE DOWNLOADED AS DM1991-1.PCX.
Yep, we installed an image digitizing computer in a room at the
Tropicanna and used Canon A-1 Digital cameras at the presentation!
-
On to the heart of the matter - the Stage Competition. Pete will
probably be filing his story, with all the details, but to me the
crowd is behind Jonathan Bass with Jade as a close second.
-
More later - regards from Ron Bieber, Tabman, and the crew here at
Desert Magic.
Msg #8782 Dated 18:16:07 03-22-91 8717 <--> 8783
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
Ok, tabman. I SAW him on TV. Althogh I might catch him when I see him
on Monday. Or maybe I'll just leave him there...
Msg #8783 Dated 18:17:18 03-22-91 8728 <--> 8883
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
Jeez, all these bad puns just beacuse I said I caught him. By the way,
if you can or want to make it to the next SAM meeting, I'll copy a map
and send it to you via SNAIL MAIL. The next meeting is on the 10th.
Msg #8784 Dated 18:23:11 03-22-91
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: ALL
Re: VIDEO FOOTAGE
Would like to trade my magician footage for your magician footage! I am
looking for the following:
Any Doug Henning Special
David Copperfield specials 1-10
Franz Hirary on Regis & Kathie Lee (I see jokes coming now...)
Harry Anderson on Tonight Show doing his seed routine
Maybe I have footage you want! Let's trade!
Msg #8785 Dated 19:13:51 03-22-91
From: SKIP SANSOUCIE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: STUFF
Hay Pete.....I was thinking, (don`t worry I`m ok now). I`ve never
been a fan of [STRAIGHT] magic. The magicians I always enjoyed
were the ones that worked with the audience, and feed off there
reactions. In my opinion magic and comedy is a winning combination.
Not to change the subject BUT. As you may already know I`m a
restaurant magician, and just out of curiosity. What is your
favorite close-up effect?
Msg #8786 Dated 19:16:05 03-22-91
From: SKIP SANSOUCIE
To: ALL
Re: RUMORS
I was performing at my Restaurant the other day and I was doing a
silk vanish,(thumb tip). The woman I was performing for said to
me. "You have one of those fake fingers right". So
I`m starting a rumor among laymen. One is that the Thumb Tip is a
novelty item and professionals don`t use such things.
And two, Magicians never use there sleeves.
What do you guys think?
And Ho YA Thanks P&T.
Msg #8787 Dated 19:20:46 03-22-91 8552 <--> 8788
From: WILLIAM ZETTLER
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
yes, he (D.C.) will do a "fountain Illusion", a floating paper illusion
and an illusion to where he takes the paper ball and folds it into a
rose and floats it than it burns in a "flash" and turns into a real
rose! William
Msg #8788 Dated 19:25:48 03-22-91 8569 <-
From: WILLIAM ZETTLER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: COPPERFIELD
David,
Could I please get your number again? I wrote it down but I think I did
a vanishing trick with it....sorry. William
Msg #8789 Dated 21:55:18 03-22-91 8770 <--> 8793
From: EVAN KATZ
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
I just wanted to congratulate you -- the idea of reassembling the force
decks into regular decks is one of those unusually brilliant comic
thoughts that you rarely come across. A stroke of genius. I'd steal
it, but only magicians would understand!
Msg #8790 Dated 22:26:38 03-22-91 8781 <-
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Thanks for the update, Hope your all having too much fun out there in
the desert. Have a great time and we all look forward to your return
Msg #8791 Dated 22:29:34 03-22-91
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: ALL
Re: NOTHING SPECIAL
Just thought that I would leave a note so that if anyone else is
sitting home with nothing to do there is a message to read. With so
many members of Magic! at the Desert Magic seminar there is little
activity here today. I hope that there is a lot of good stuff to
report when you all return.
Msg #8792 Dated 22:39:53 03-22-91
From: EVAN KATZ
To: SYSOP
Re: VEGAS PCX
Just downloaded and printed out your PCX image from Vegas!
.
It's kinda fuzzy, but just clear enough to see that the three of you
are having a great time.
Msg #8793 Dated 23:50:12 03-22-91 8789 <--> 8827
From: RICHARD HART
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
Msg #8794 Dated 0:08:03 03-23-91 8778 <--> 8797
From: T A WATERS
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: NEWS FLASH!
Thanks for the congratulations, but they are somewhat premature --
things haven't been finalized yet. I assume everything will be worked
out, however, and I am looking forward to the job.
Msg #8795 Dated 23:53:55 03-22-91 -> 8805
From: RICHARD HART
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: REASSEMBLING FORCE DECKS
Gee, Evan, I wish I could claim the credit for that one, but in all
honesty, I copped it from the August 1944 issue of Genii.
During the war, with all the rationing, playing cards were hard to come
by. Regular decks of cards were quite expensive. Bill Silversteen
came up with the idea of purchasing force decks from magic shops, and
re-assembling them into regular decks. Seems that force decks were, at
the time, actually cheaper than regular decks of cards. For those magi
who beat a deck to death in under a week, it seemed an ideal way to
obtain relatively inexpensive decks.
Silversteen, if you recall, was one of the first cardicians to explore
"Flash Cards". Bill, or "Lefty" as he was known to his friends, spent
many an hour cooking decks of cards in that familiar mixture of
concentrated nitric acid/sulphuric acid, and thus producing those
flaming pasteboards of which he was so justly famous. It was he who,
aptly taking Slydini's Helicopter card, and using his "Flash Cards",
turned the effect into the 1945 version, "The Kamikazee Kard", which
inflamed audiences world-wide. I used to have one of Lefty's flash
decks, but unfortunately, I was showing it to a couple of friends in
the Castle library and The Professor strolled by, and accidently let
fly with an ash from his cigarette. Needless to say, my flash deck
vanished in a proverbial puff of smoke. Had I intended this, it would
have caused quite a stir. I'm sure Dingle or at least Jennings would
have come up with an alternate handling (probably better) had they been
present to view the original effect. Dai would've raised an eyebrow,
but, after the pyrotechnics, none of us had an eyebrow left to raise.
Silversteen, in his later years, grew weary of his pasteboard pursuits,
and instead, devoted the rest of his life to the study of Zen Buddism and
its influence on modern magic. It is said, in the inner circles of the
cognocenti, that on the day he stepped into the "Happy Summerland", he
had finally captured on audio tape (actually wire, in those days) the
sound of one card shuffling.
Msg #8797 Dated 1:12:10 03-23-91 8778 <--> 8806
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: NEWS FLASH!
That is truly terrible news. That people would rip off the Castle
library is sick and pathetic. Very sorry to hear about it and
obviously the new security will be a necessity. Glad T. A. was
willing to take on the librarian position - an incredible man for
the job.
P.S. - Does the Castle insurance cover theft? Is there any hope
that the books can be replaced?
Msg #8798 Dated 1:18:20 03-23-91 -> 8803
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Well, here we are - at Desert Magic and it is going GREAT. The
challenges were very good. And this afternoon Johnny "Ace" Palmer
did a terrific show and lecture to a packed house. His close was
the production of two doves from his outstretched arms. That was
followed by a long standing ovation.
In the MAGIC! files area is a PCX picture of Johnny as he produces
the first dove. The file is named PALMER.PCX - incidentally, we
are sending these images in 320 x 200 format so that they can be
viewed on CGA as well as EGA and VGA monitors.
Pete is running frantically - we kidnapped him from the Seminar
long enough to hold a MAGIC! advisory board meeting. But he is
also filling in for the recouperating Obie O'Brian, so you can
imagine the hectic life he is leading. Hardly any time for
chasing blondes. He promises to get his reports into MAGIC! as
soon as humanly possible.
Tabman is looking great and having a good time.
And here I am, long after midnight, filing reports and pictures
from the field - a first in the history of magic seminars. Hope
that help, Richard.
Msg #8799 Dated 1:19:56 03-23-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: MAGIC-NL
Glad to see that the first "live" Desert Magic photo is already in your
hands, Arnaud! Yes, these aren't very detailed as we are operating
here under some difficult conditions (the barmaids keep getting between
the screen and our hands) and we are trying to hold to something that
can be viewed on CGA as well as EGA/VGA.
BUT, once again you made magic history! We discussed MAGIC-NL at this
morning's MAGIC! meeting and the fact that these images would be going
to Europe was well publicized to all the Desert Magic Seminar
participants.
There are some folks here from France and they may be joining MAGIC-NL
too.
Msg #8800 Dated 2:34:24 03-23-91
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: VEGAS
David,
Of course I did some promotional work under our members to annouce that
MAGIC-NL will cover this major yearly event in Vegas Semi-Live.
I think the pictures are adding something special to your reports, and
makes us here in Holland, far from you all there, feel very close.
Thanks for the promotional support to the European convention
participants, they are surely welcome on MAGIC!-NL. For your info our
telephone nr is: 31-23-386311.
The start of MAGIC!-NL looks like it will develop itself like yours, a
slow start. I see that we get more and more response, and new members
are coming in each week.
The first month we had ca. 300 calls and 300 msg's were posted.
Wish you all lots of fun there, and keep in touch with the dutch.
Arnaud
Msg #8801 Dated 2:49:16 03-23-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: APOLOGY
Biro here. It is nearly 3 ahem in Vegas... I promised nightly reviews.
I haven't done one yet... tsk tsk... too much going on having too much
fun???? Yes! Will get my thoughts organized tomorrow and file a report.
Sorry, gang, some time this happens!!! I hope to be at the CAstle for
Brunch Sunday... if my tax acct. doesn't take too long in the morning!
Hang in there.... the BBS meeting here this morning was great! Over 50
attended!!!! More later. Flying out tomorrow at Burbank Hilton around
midnight tomorrow!!! arrrrrggggghhhhhhh. Adios....
Msg #8802 Dated 3:29:19 03-23-91 -> 8920
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: ANY DUTCH IN VEGAS??
David,
.
Does the Seminar have any Dutch visitors??? Would be nice if they
could say hello to us and tell them how the convention is going.
Maybe Peter Pit is there? I still have an old appointment (with
Dante Larsen though) that he will let us know how he is doing.
Maybe if you see him at the Seminar, drag him behind your keyboard,
and have him send something to us.
.
Arnaud
Msg #8803 Dated 7:59:40 03-23-91 8798 <-
From: RICHARD HART
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Yes, oh noble sysop, it DOES help. Keep 'em coming!
Msg #8804 Dated 9:36:37 03-23-91
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: WAKE UP!!!!!
Hey you there WAKE-UP!!!
We are hungry for more Vegas news......How was the first day, who are
making the Best change for the competition. What's new at the dealers.
Any rumours?
Hey come on, it's 9 o' clock. WAKE-UP and get behind that keyboard...
WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP-WAKE-UP
Msg #8805 Dated 10:16:51 03-23-91 8795 <-
From: EVAN KATZ
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: REASSEMBLING FORCE DECKS
!
Msg #8806 Dated 10:29:46 03-23-91 8797 <--> 8807
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: NEWS FLASH!
I don't know what the insurance arrangements are, but I do know that
thew library committee has been catalogueing missing items for
replacement wherever possible.
Msg #8807 Dated 10:33:05 03-23-91 8794 <--> 8813
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: NEWS FLASH!
My understanding is that whatever "finalization" you might be talking
about is a mere formality and your installation as Castle Librarian is
a foregone conclusion. I hope I'm correctly informed on this, because
I think it ranks as one of the best decisions to come out of the Castle
in a long while.
Msg #8808 Dated 12:05:23 03-23-91 -> 8869
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: CAMERA RENTAL
Marvin, contact Geno Munari, here in Vegas, he needs to talk to you.
Also.... hahahahahah... Lichtman said, "Got the FAX -- you bum -- the
hotel charged me for it! Arrrrggggghhhhh. Hah! Later, adios.
Msg #8809 Dated 12:09:43 03-23-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: DESERT SEMINAR
Desert Seminar: First day! Well good old Southwest did it to me
getting the kid off on the wrong foot... and I was LATE getting
here. Once here though the excitement began to build for the big
money "PEOPLE'S CHOICE" Challenge. Over $11,000 up for grabs.What I
missed was the first close up "impromptu" sessons (using
volunteers). It was organized by Roger Klause. His "usual"
partner, Obie O'Brien had to miss this one due to a Heart Bypass
operation. I Talked to Obie and he is doing GREAT and will be
doing the FFFF and the IBM this summer!The "Presidential Ball" featured
black tie, music, a buffet and
dancing. Plus a visit on the stage of the Tiffany Showroom here
at the Tropicana Hotel by "former" presidents, Richard Nixon,
Ronald Reagan and M. Gorbachov (played by Joe Stevens, Bill Wells
and yours truly in that order...) plus Roger Crabtree and Irene
Larsen as Mr/Mrs. G. Bush....Great rubber masks provided the
illusion....The the first Challenge show began, MC'd by the President's
of
the IBM/SAM Mike Ellis and Margaret Dailey!John Shable opened with his
Pipe and Fishbowl Production act
getting things going well. He later told MAGIC! he had spilled
one of the bowls of water backstage before and we told him no one
in the Audience was aware and he did real good...not to worry.Chris
Broughton followed with his "Home Boy" act and we have
never seen him "HOTTER" (No pun about the Michael Jackson flaming
hair bit).Mike Michaels, who worked the IBM in St. Louis presented his
"Mecanical Man" robot act with lots of NEW and IMPROVED material
and to this reporter looks like a real contender for a Siegfried
and Roy Lion Head award!!!!Werner Duck presented a Crazy Illusion act
with costume changes
from the Joker to Batman, his wife finished with a great
impression of Tina Turner!!!! Someone kidded saying, "She might
bet booked here in Vegas as a singer". They travelled from
Germany to perform.George Sateriale opened 2nd half with his clever
manip act,
doves, etc, using a Grandfather Clock for his table, backdrop.
Clever stuff, well received.Christopher Hart knockd 'em dead with his
torn/restored sheet
music accompanied by Barbara Striesand singing, stopping etc., as
the paper is torn and wound up with his familiar "Zombie
Arm/Hand" that grabs him and pulls him offstage to close. Another
contender, indeed!Fukai and Kimika presented an ALLL NEW act, featuring
the usual
silk, flowers etc. but the added LEVITATIN of Kimika AND HER KOTO\j
I don't think it all uploaded? but only one or two words at end didn't
maek it. WHen I get hom Mondy will re do...
Msg #8810 Dated 12:12:09 03-23-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: SEMINAR AGAIN!
Friday opened with Juan Tamariz from Spain and Roy Johnson from
Liecester, England presenting very strong lectures. To go into
detail here would be impossible )) their reputations speak for
themselves.Didn't get to the Ladies Only Breakfast (for obvious reason)
but
reports are that Barclay Shaw (who subbed for Rich Little) was
FANTASTIQUE and the ladies want him again next year!!! Barclay is
a true genius of a performer with his Puppet's Toto and his
Naughty Chicken!!!At 1:30 we were ready for the 2nd of the Two
Challenge shows. MC
was the outrageous Jeff Hobson, who literally "took no prisoners"
knocking them dead, not only with his prepared material, but his
spontaneous bit with one of the "borrowed" HEAD PIECES from the
Showgirls.... You had to be here to appreciate the hilarity of
this scene.Howard Hale, out of Texas opened with his familiar
manipulation,
linking rings, multiplying Glitter Balls in a solid fashion.Jonathan
Bass, who we met years ago as a Jr. at Boston worked a
very, very strong manipulative and bird act. He has come a long
way and the audience reaction proved it. Another that could take
the Gold.Markus Gabriel came from Austria to present a very different
act
he calls "Dancemagic" )) his modern dance work combined with
magic (IN MY OPION is the best use of stage movement to cover the
magic loads, etc. since I saw the Soviet team of Sara Kabagujina
and Sultangali Shukorov with the Grand Prix at Belgium). For some
reason the audience didn't really appreciate this act and the
reaction was less that I had expected. Follwing the Intermission a
young 17 year old from Finland,
brought from the Magic Hands congress by Manfred Thum, performed
classic card/ball/candle manipulations like seasoned pro. Not a
contstant, but had he been one I would have said "LOOK OUT". He
will be heard from in the future. I am sorry but I didn't hear
his name when intro'd and it wasn't written in the program.Hobson
opened the 2nd half with his Egg Bag and Card in Mouth to
great success, then introduced Jade, who as you know won the Gold
Medal at the St. Louis IBM Convention. Her classic Chinese magic
recieved solid audience applause throughout and maybe the best
round of applause yet. One more that can take it!!!!Closer for the
Challenge was an Illusion Act presented by Mark
Kaschube, from Chicago. A dentist by profession he (and his wife*also
a dentist) brought five assistants, several HUGE illusions
with backdrops and a LEAPARD. A Phantom of the Opera theme plus a
couple of production scenes looked as good as many of the smaller
Casino shows in town. Boy, if the audience likes ILLUSIONS here
was another contending act.\jAll in all an incredible mix of acts....
variety and an almost
complete lack of duplication (which is nearly impossible with 12
acts on two shows) made it a set of shows more than worth the
price of admission.Unfortunately I have to leave to go to an assignment
(have to pay
the rent) and I will not be here for the announcement of the
winners and the S&R presentation! Or much of Saturday's
activities. I know there will be a trade show workers seminar a
special show by Johnny Ace Palmer and a Comdy Club workshop by
Hobson... but someone else will have to report on these.You should see
Lichtman and friends (Tabman too) running around
digitizing and having a general great time!Another good one by Joe
Stevens and his Wichita Mafia. Oh, he
said next year's MAGIC! session/workshop (now that he's seen what
the heck it is) will get much more publicity and a better time
slot!!! YO!
Msg #8811 Dated 0:34:57 03-24-91 -> 8821
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: SEMINAR WINNERS
I had to leave before they announced th winners of the Desert Seminar,
but according to my inside sources the winners are: Mike Michaels
(Robot Magician0 S&R Gold Lion Head 1st place. Chris Hart, Silver Lion
Head, 2nd place and Johnathan Bass, Bronze Lion Head 3rd Place. Jade
was fourth ( a favorite of MAGIC! )
I flew to Burbankk just so I could log on with a local call!!! I envy
Tabman, et al, for being able to stay to the finish.... but, I had to
come here to pay rent! Adios Amigos.... Oh someone wondered why no one
was praising Tamariz. Hey.... I have praised him for more than 10
years. He is one of the best in the world!!! And one of the most
wonderful guys going!
Msg #8813 Dated 1:11:06 03-24-91 8807 <-
From: T A WATERS
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: NEWS FLASH!
No -- as I said the situation is not completely settled yet. Needless
to say I hope things will work out for my taking on the Librarian
position, but it will be a while before this is definite.
Msg #8814 Dated 3:03:47 03-24-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Here are the Desert Magic Winners:
.
1st Place - Mike Michaels
2nd Place - Christopher Hart
3rd Place - Jonathan Bass
.
AND there are pictures of them in the files area! This time
the pictures have higher resolution (640x350) BUT they CANNOT be
viewed on CGA monitors - they require EGA/VGA. The files are
named MIKE.PCX, HART.PCX, and BASS.PCX. Yep, in a couple of them
that's Sigfried and Roy doing the presentations.
.
The real winners at Desert Magic today were the attendees. JUAN
TAMARIZ (picture file: TAMARIZ.PCX) was stunning! A really great
card worker and a very nice guy presented for over 2 solid hours.
And almost no-one moved - even with MARK WILSON lecturing in
another room. The afternoon also included a session on
"Creativity and Miracle Workers" by STEINMEYER and GUAGHAN. Good
stuff!
.
This evening BURT CARPENTER, my wife and I went to the Sahara for
MELINDA. The room at the Sahara is one of the WORST FACILITIES
I've ever seen. A 29-cent stamp would just about cover the stage
of the Main Theater. And seldom have I seen a stage with such a
low ceiling. Parts of Melinda's show can't even be done in the
room. I happen to like her show. It is so uptempo, with never a
pause or a dull moment, that it feels positively electric. But
there are parts that are choppy, a few bits that should be
chopped, and it cries for better organization and an ending.
But plenty of entertainment value and plenty of sizzle. Melinda
is probably the hardest working stage magician anywhere in Las
Vegas.
.
Later today, Sunday, it is back to reality. See you from MAGIC!
Central.
Msg #8816 Dated 13:07:50 03-24-91 8453 <--> 8817
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KAMAAR
Was I just doing card tricks when?
Msg #8817 Dated 13:08:42 03-24-91 8464 <--> 8822
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: KAMAAR
Yes, He is a real nice guy. What is the magic menu?
Msg #8818 Dated 13:37:37 03-24-91
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: JOE RYAN
Re: DID YOU VANISH
Joe: Haven't seem you on here lately. Are you going to Fechter's?
Msg #8821 Dated 16:21:20 03-24-91 8811 <-
From: BRAD BURT
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SEMINAR WINNERS
Dear Pete:
Thanks for the report. Stuck out here in the hinterlands of San Diego
it was great fun reading up on what has been happening in the great
world of magic. Really appreciate the effort. Best Brad
Burt....
Msg #8822 Dated 16:56:59 03-24-91 8817 <--> 8829
From: JIM SISTI
To: HARRISON CARROLL
Re: KAMAAR
"The Magic Menu" is a 12-page bi-monthly publication that I edit and
publish specifically for restaurant and bar magicians. Ray Mertz and
Al The Only are regular columnists and recent issues have featured
interviews with Eugene Burger and magic from Eric DeCamps, Charles
Greene and others. It's $15.00 yearly for six issues or $25.00 for a
year's subscription plus all three back issues. evin O. just did an
article for me on designing and printing collateral publicity pieces
for me.
Msg #8824 Dated 20:56:54 03-24-91 8739 <--> 8833
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Joannie Spina?
She is the just the greatest dancer and the nicest, most done to earth
person. Or do you mean someone else?
Msg #8825 Dated 20:58:43 03-24-91 8758 <--> 8830
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE ART
Super Pig!
Msg #8826 Dated 20:59:23 03-24-91 8766 <--> 8843
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: SO...WHERE?
Thought Tamariz was terrific! Any chance you are the Wayne that was
doing some of the shuffling??
Msg #8827 Dated 21:02:05 03-24-91 8769 <--> 8835
From: PATRICE MOORE
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
Richard, I couldn't bring myself to sign on to MAGIC! knowing the group
was all in Vegas. I'm not exactly a regular, but I have attended the
last three Desert Seminars - I'm so bummed I missed out... But you're
so creative in your misery. I just pouted.
Msg #8829 Dated 23:49:36 03-24-91 8816 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: HARRISON CARROLL
Re: KAMAAR
Whilst Jay started to watch the trade show set you were doing.
Msg #8830 Dated 23:50:30 03-24-91 8825 <--> 8867
From: PETE BIRO
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE ART
OK, I have finally seen the Castle's Fountain Sculpture. I think the
delivery man screwed up. It belongs at the Comedy Store! It ain't bad
as the kind of art it be... but it don't belong in front of a
Victorian. Maybe in front of the Pep Boys!!!
I suggest to the regulars to keep throwing Ivy Seed into the water!
Msg #8832 Dated 23:55:53 03-24-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRIPPED OUT
I hopy you aren't as tripped out as your faithful servant here. The
airlines put my luggage on the wrong plane... and rather than go home
and come back next day, I sat around four 4 hours until it arrived. The
"close up table" was in the case!!!
Really had great time with you, D.L. and other members of MAGIC! And
potential members.... too bad we have to have the convention activities
to get in the way of what we want to do.... hmmmm..... adios, got to
get some ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZs.
Msg #8833 Dated 0:08:36 03-25-91 8824 <--> 8846
From: RICHARD HART
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Well, if Joannie Spina is the one who does the divided lady illusion,
the Origami box, then yes, she's the one. In my opinion, she MAKES
Copperfield's illusions work. In a word, SHE'S magic!
Msg #8835 Dated 0:12:31 03-25-91 8827 <--> 8848
From: RICHARD HART
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
Hopefully, I won't be in the same position next year. I plan to be
there next year. Even gonna have my own dealer's booth. Gonna sell
chrome-plated thumb tips for the magician who has everything. I also
plan to feature a Penn & Teller model crafted of weapons-grade
plutonium. And for those magicians into "shock" magic, eel skin Himber
wallets made from electric eels....
Egad, if this goes on, I'm gonna have to beat Biro senseless, and steal
his complete collection of magic one-liners....
Msg #8836 Dated 0:19:49 03-25-91 -> 8849
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: DESERT MAGIC
W-E-'-R-E B-A-C-K... The Desert Magic team has begun to return to
their homes and most have now reported in (Tabman should be touching
down in Maryland right about now). It was really something - a great
Desert Magic, a great MAGIC! First Anniversary Meeting, and some great
teamwork that delivered the news - and photos - to MAGIC!
We are all so damned tired. And it will probably take a couple of days
to unwind and become human again. But I can't tell you how great it
was to see so many MAGIC! members all in one place. There will be MANY
more things to say, but I wanted to get a couple of things in quick:
Thanks, of course, to PETE BIRO for his hard work and for the MAGIC he
delivered here on MAGIC! Thanks to TABBY CRABB for making sure a lot
of things happened - the Tabman was many places at once, doin' "stuff"
for MAGIC! Thanks to RON BIEBER for the use of his room as a MAGIC!
hangout and as temporary "MAGIC! Central" for digitizing and
communications systems every night until 3 a.m. and beyond.
Thanks to JOHNNY ACE PALMER and JUAN TAMARIZ for their willingness to
let us surround them with digital cameras and for being the first
performers ever to allow pictures of their shows and lectures to be
sent around the World. Thanks to DAVID VANVRANKEN for all the work he
put in on a special project that we will be doing for MAGIC! members
later. And a special thanks to ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN and MAGIC-NL for
calling in and calling in and for transfering the digital images to
Europe 26 MINUTES after they were sent from Las Vegas! MAGIC! members
truly performed as a WORLDWIDE team.
Msg #8837 Dated 0:40:37 03-25-91 -> 8850
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
And, uh, oh, yeah, uh, thanks, Marvin, for the fax that I had to PAY to
receive. It really warms the cockles of a sysop's heart when he
doesn't have his glasses and a message begins, "The board is DEAD" even
if that is followed by "without you, Pete, and Tabman." Next year you
ain't gettin' a Gold Diskette - you're gettin' a plaque with some of my
new grey hairs embedded in it.
Msg #8840 Dated 8:26:45 03-25-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: POWER FAILURE
We were "off the air" for a few hours last night due to a local power
failure.
Msg #8841 Dated 8:31:49 03-25-91 -> 8842
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: VIEW FROM SPRING HILL
- The DESERT SEMINAR exceeded my expectations (paying for
my trip, books, etc at the BJ tables helped my state of mind I'm
sure). Next time I'll take my little Tandy 200 laptop as I missed
signing on everyday. I haven't signed on yet today so don't know
exactly what Dave and Pete told you but I've got a coupla
comments myself and hope I don't duplicate their findings as we
all look at the world through different eyes and will try to keep
it compact.
- JOE STEVENS was happy with our MAGIC! hour and invited us
back for next year. Joe also hinted, as did BLACKSTONE JR.
(thanks Burt Carpenter for paving the way), that he'd be joining
us here online.
- Reason I stayed so long was to attend the JOHN GAUGHAN
and JIM STEINMEYER "MIRACLES AND CREATIVITY" workshop saturday
afternoon. I'm glad I stayed. Talked with them both Sunday
morning about MAGIC! and who knows....
- JIMMY GRIPPO is in bad shape. He told me that if it
wasn't for GENO MUNARI that he'd be completely alone in this
world. Some slime mugged this old guy and almost killed him. Geno
is to be commended for taking the responsibility (I know he loves
Jimmy, but anyway). That's what its all about and the way its
supposed to be. Yeah.
- DON ALAN is a cool as ever. He has a great memory as he
and I had met briefly in the 70s and he remembered. I was
impressed.
- JAY MARSHALL looked great. We had an excellent
conversation in the Tropicana Casino. He sends his regards to
everyone here on MAGIC!.
- Was dismayed to see that GENII (enjoyed talking to Bill
Larsen) has March and April out and I just got Febuary. Oh well,
if I didn't know it wouldn't bother me. The James Issue cover is
a beauty. Can't wait to see it in my mail box here in no mans
land. We missed DANTE LARSEN and hope he comes out next year.
- MARK and GREG WILSON made a surprise visit and lecture.
Didn't get a chance to talk with LANCE BURTON about the Six Gun
Territory days, maybe next time.
- As far as the $10,000 MAGIC CHALLANGE goes. It was pretty
good but I wonder why someone would spend so much time and money
on developing an act (most of them) and then use crappy editing
on their background music tapes. Just doesn't make a lot of sense
to me, but since I'm in the music biz maybe I'm just picky.
- Why would a juggler juggle apples in front of a red
curtain, too I wonder? Lance floated his birdcage in front of a
blue sparkle backdrop and you couldn't see it in the back.
Details are so important. Come on guys.
- The Tropicana Hotel is an excellent place to have a
convention. Excellent choice, Joe.
- Best of course, was getting together with DAVID LICHTMAN
and PETE BIRO and the other MAGIC!ANS there at the seminar. BURT
CARPENTER entertained me with his magic (great backpalmed coin)
in the parking lot before driving me to McCarren Airport - thanks
again Burt. DAVID VANRANKEN brought up some disks with RANDY
LUND'S Magic Data Base for us. GENO MUNARI (Geno did you have
that cellular phone grafted to your ear?) for bringing Jimmy
Grippo over so he could see some old friends. STEVE BRYANT about
some of his "Apparitions" for MAGIC!. MIKE MAXWELL, LARRY WILCOX
and some other new users who I hope will "holler" at me here
online sometime.
- Inside Straight Flushes to: JOHNNY ACE PALMER and JUAN
TAMARIZ for having the vision to allow MAGIC! to video thier
respective lectures in order to capture the images necessary for
digitization. Johnny's image was in The Netherlands by 2am desert
time - a first.
- A special tip of the hat to: RON BIEBER who along with
your Sysop lugged video digitization equipment around all weekend
and kept their eyes glued to a viewfinder looking for just the
right moment to capture instead of actually enjoying the
lectures. Also for finding the best prime rib in town and not
yelling at me when I woke him up.
- PETE BIRO for "smoothing" the way for MAGIC! - like Joe
Steven's sez, "Anything for Pete" - and for having the funniest
introduction of a lecturer, JUAN TAMARIZ.
- Out to Lunch: to ROY JOHNSON who says he didn't
understand what it was all about and next time he'll get
digitized.
- Also kudos to "ZOOM" LICHTMAN for being the youngest
magician at the Seminar.
More later,
tabman
Msg #8842 Dated 8:56:57 03-25-91 8841 <--> 8854
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIEW FROM SPRING HILL
For the record - "ZOOM" LICHTMAN celebrated his 2-and-1/2 year birthday
at CAESARS PALACE on Sunday. He performed table magic in the Pavillion
Room there.
Note to JIM SISTI: Yes, he is available for a Magic Menu interview.
Msg #8843 Dated 8:59:17 03-25-91 8826 <-
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: SO...WHERE?
EVERY chance...wish you would've said H"Hello!"
Msg #8846 Dated 9:27:57 03-25-91 8824 <--> 9045
From: PETE BIRO
To: PATRICE MOORE (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Is she related to Tony Spina of Tannens?
Msg #8848 Dated 9:33:25 03-25-91 8835 <--> 8868
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
They have been sold to someone else, (I forget who) already.
Msg #8849 Dated 9:34:39 03-25-91 8836 <--> 8871
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Gee, I should have stayed home and watched!
Msg #8850 Dated 9:35:05 03-25-91 8837 <--> 8853
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Gold hell, send him a cement diskette (air freight collect). Why ANYONE
would send a FAX, when there is a bulletin board out there is beyond my
fumble brain's ability to comprehend....
Msg #8852 Dated 9:37:18 03-25-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: THANKS FOR THE RIDE
- Was really great getting together with you during and
after the seminar. Thanks again for the ride. Cabs are so "cold"
and you really set the tone for a nice trip home.
- Your photo was on the Fax when I got home. You only
missed me by about five hours. Thats a great shot of you. If that
pic is 15 years old, you're living right.
- It was fun getting fooled by the little dice box trick.
I'm gonna have to work on that one. I had a good laugh about that
this morning also.
- Am feeling pretty good this morning considering the
activity and sleeplessness of the past few days and will get back
to you later on some other stuff.
- You're a fine magician and I had much fun swapping moves
in the parking lot. In alotta ways, the best part of the meeting
was getting together one-on-one with some truly super folks. I
hope everybody (me 2 & u2) makes it back next year.
Msg #8853 Dated 9:38:48 03-25-91 8850 <--> 8857
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
That was pretty funny.....the fax....I loved it.
Msg #8854 Dated 9:39:20 03-25-91 8841 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIEW FROM SPRING HILL
Without your prose this would be a dead board! Salaam and start the
Bass Solo!
Msg #8857 Dated 9:46:42 03-25-91 8853 <--> 8858
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Yoiu must be on the other line right now tabboooo
Msg #8858 Dated 10:02:29 03-25-91 8857 <--> 8863
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Looks that way. Am glad to be back online. OK.
Msg #8859 Dated 10:03:30 03-25-91 -> 8954
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SEMINAR
- Thanks for looking me up at the Seminar. I've been a fan
of your writings in Seance and am glad to have had the
opportunity to talk with you at length about your writing and
your plans. Am looking forward to your Cassedega piece in next
issue of same.
- Am curious as to your impressions of the affair? Guess
you're pretty burnt today since you had to travel back to the
eastern half of the USA too. Nice meeting you and hope to do it
again.
Msg #8860 Dated 10:05:34 03-25-91 -> 8874
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: SEMINAR
- It was good to meet you at the seminar. Thanks again for
bringing the diskettes up for MAGIC! to distribute. I forgot
(along with my certificate) to get mine outa Dr. Lichtman's
briefcase, but maybe I can get him to mailem 2 me before he goes
on the road on the great southern bar-b-que tour.
- Am glad to be able to put your face with your name now.
You're (since you live in LV) probably one of the few who aren't
burnt toast today. Last night I dreamed about Iowa farmwomen
playing slot machines and listening to em scream everytime they
hit a triple.
Msg #8863 Dated 10:21:48 03-25-91 8853 <--> 8879
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Oh, great -- now we're doin' reviews of the fax. Just for the record,
we should mention that it was read publicly at the MAGIC! meeting.
Msg #8865 Dated 10:30:33 03-25-91 8765 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: INFORMAL MAGIC! LUNCHEON
I know the feeling, I was gone for two weeks and I still have not
caught up with the messages.
Msg #8867 Dated 10:38:49 03-25-91 8830 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE ART
GREAT IDEA Pete!!!!
Msg #8868 Dated 10:42:04 03-25-91 8770 <-
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: OH MY GOODNESS!
Don't worry Richard, there are still a few of us left on MAGIC!
Msg #8869 Dated 10:55:37 03-25-91 8808 <--> 8876
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CAMERA RENTAL
You think thats bad Pete, wait till you get the 150 pizzas we
ordered!!!
Msg #8871 Dated 11:01:13 03-25-91 8836 <--> 8895
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Watch out CNN because MAGIC! is coming on strong!! David, any plans for
a Bagdad Corespondent?
Msg #8872 Dated 11:07:59 03-25-91 -> 8877
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: ALL
Re: SAN FRANCISCO AND MAGIC
I will be leaving for San Francisco on 31 MAR for a week and a half.
Does anyone know of any magic happenings or hangouts in the San
Francisco area??
Msg #8874 Dated 12:06:01 03-25-91 8860 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: SEMINAR
And thanks from me too (p. biro) I read your floppy today and printed
the Chelman patter... the reactions/replys from members is truly
wonderful. Like David says, "We have our own 24 hour a day, year long
convention. Again, many thanks.
Msg #8876 Dated 12:08:27 03-25-91 8869 <--> 8878
From: PETE BIRO
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: CAMERA RENTAL
I hope they were Anchovie covered.
Msg #8877 Dated 12:09:00 03-25-91 8872 <--> 8886
From: PETE BIRO
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: SAN FRANCISCO AND MAGIC
Yes.
Msg #8878 Dated 12:40:28 03-25-91 8808 <--> 8880
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CAMERA RENTAL
Do you know the name of Geno's company; I have his home? phone, but
would like to contact him during the day.
I'll make it up to David---I forgot that the Trop would charge him.
However, don't know why he's making all the fuss, he appears to have
plenty of money.
Msg #8879 Dated 12:43:47 03-25-91 8837 <--> 8889
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
OOPS. Forgot that the hotel would charge you for the fax.
To make it up to you, next time lunch is on me at the castle.
Glad you guys had a good and sucessful trip.
Msg #8880 Dated 12:48:47 03-25-91 8878 <--> 8884
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: CAMERA RENTAL
Geno's business card says: 702-456-0621. The fuss is Tongue in Cheek!!
We were all having a great time kidding about it.... It was MOST
appreciated and he read it to everyone there!!! We were glad you were
thinking enuf of us to communicate. Adios.
Msg #8882 Dated 12:52:24 03-25-91 8679 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: HARRISON CARROLL
Re: CONOVER/FFFF
Vbeen off line for a few days at the Steven's Magic
Seminar. If I get on the ready list I'm scheduled to fly up with
Howie. Last time Howie made me pay half the bill for the station
wagon carrying all his stuff from Schwarzman's Magic Unlimited
for his dealer booth.
I should get you to pick me up at the airpark and let
Howie fend for himself (he'll read this and call me (maybe)) or
if you have a station wagon he'll pay you to take him to the
Forks.
It'll be great seeing you, Ray and Lou again as the best
part of last trip (besides Michael Ammar) was bar magic on the
prowl with the Boys of Buffalo (or thereabouts).
Will let you know whats going on as soon as I know. Howie
said the price of a ticket on Sorcerer's Air was going up and
I've still got plenty of frequent flyer miles left after Vegas.
Hope 2CU soon.
Msg #8883 Dated 12:53:14 03-25-91 8782 <--> 8952
From: TABBY CRABB
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
Sorry, I'm trying to swear off being a smartaxe but sometimes I slip.
Sometimes I fall.
Msg #8884 Dated 13:15:14 03-25-91 8880 <--> 8888
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: CAMERA RENTAL
When he (Capt. Dave) read your fax..."The board is
dead..." long pause and we all started to squirm. Then he
finished it. Was really funny and I for one appreciated the
humor. I think any of us would of gladly paid the $44 a page the
Trop charges for a fax.
Msg #8885 Dated 13:15:38 03-25-91 -> 8892
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DICE MAIL
I'm trying to figure how to get these antique ivory craps dice into my
disk drive so I won't havta worry about going to the PO and actually
using the mail for a change........
Msg #8886 Dated 13:30:07 03-25-91 8877 <--> 8893
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SAN FRANCISCO AND MAGIC
YES WHAT?? Could you be more specific.?
Msg #8887 Dated 13:30:59 03-25-91
From: DARRELL MURPHY
To: MIMI HERTZOG
Re: TALK TO ME
Ok Mimi now I have written you a message so you have to talk to me now.
Of course I know that you have not been on in a couple of weeks so yiou
will have to catch up on a ton of messages. AH YEEES I can remember
when this used to be a small board. We had maybe a hundred messages a
week!!!
Msg #8888 Dated 13:49:11 03-25-91 8880 <-
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CAMERA RENTAL
Thanks. That's the number I have, so I'll keep trying to reach him.
I realized, at least I hoped, the fuss was tongue in cheek.
Msg #8889 Dated 13:51:39 03-25-91 8837 <--> 8894
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
I left a previous message that I would make it up to you and buy you
lunch, next time at the castle.
But
But Tabby just said the cost was $44. If that's the case,
forget lunch, I'll reimburse you, I guess I really blew it. Actually
I will buy lunch AND reimburse you. My mistake and I'll suffer the
results. Just remember what The Final Word has to say.
Check in the mail tomorrow and a rain check for lunch.
Msg #8892 Dated 14:24:44 03-25-91 8885 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DICE MAIL
you tooooooooooooooo
Msg #8893 Dated 14:24:56 03-25-91 8886 <--> 8953
From: PETE BIRO
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: SAN FRANCISCO AND MAGIC
NO. Well, OK, call Jack Browne. I know, you don't
have his number. Either do I here... but the OMC (Oakland) meets first
tues every month. SAM out here on Wed's, don't know the SF dates.
Msg #8894 Dated 14:26:38 03-25-91 8889 <--> 8896
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
I think it was only $1 for the FAX, but Lichtman is a big tipper!
Msg #8895 Dated 14:25:22 03-25-91 8871 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Well, we were talking with Peter Arnet before he got that cushy job
with the other guys. There are delicate negotiations going
on with General Schwartzkopf.
In general, however, GENII seems to have Bagdad pretty well covered.
Msg #8896 Dated 14:35:15 03-25-91 8889 <--> 8901
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
I should have just had 'em read it to me and let 'em keep it. But then
I wouldn't have had it to put on the MAGIC! Wall of Fame.
Don't worry about it - My few minutes work in the Casino paid for it,
so as far as I'm concerned, the Tropicanna taketh and the Tropicanna
giveth away.
Msg #8898 Dated 14:47:58 03-25-91 -> 8905
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ADDRESS
OK. Mail to tabman, Post Office Box 590, Charlotte Hall, Maryland
20622. For ups to Rural Rt 2, Box 4 all else the same. Be watching mail
box on both ends.
Msg #8899 Dated 14:50:05 03-25-91 -> 8906
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN
Re: WHAT CAN I SAY?
We (me, myself and I) want to go on record as being most
appreciative of MAGIC!'s 1991 Gold Diskette Award which you gave
to both Pete Biro and myself Friday morning in Las Vegas. It came
as a complete surprise and compounded the enjoyment of the recent
trip.
I only try to do what anyone probably would do if given
the choice and the opportunity. To me, magic isn't effects. Magic
is people who like magic and I have a good time with that. By the
same rule, MAGIC! isn't a computer. MAGIC! is the people who use
the computer and thanks to everyone on here in the United States,
The Netherlands, Japan and soon France it is becoming a real
world community. MAGIC! isn't a computer. Computers have no soul.
Thank you (and Pete) for everything.
tabman
Msg #8901 Dated 15:15:58 03-25-91 8889 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
It really only cost 89 cents so I don't know what they're complaining
about.
Msg #8903 Dated 16:30:47 03-25-91 8718 <--> 8909
From: RANDY LUND
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Sure is, along with a "real" manual...Send you check to
Randy Lund
6538 Amberly St.
Portage
MI 49081
and I will get it right out to you.
Thanks.......Randy
Msg #8904 Dated 16:44:17 03-25-91
From: ERIC RONNE
To: ALL
Re: BLACKSTONE VIDEO
Looking for a tape of a Blackstone (Jr) TV special of about 10 years
ago, which included Richard Ross, Fred Kaps and "The Great Turano
(spelling?)." Any clues? Info re other Kaps/Ross video material would
also be much appreciated!
Msg #8905 Dated 17:10:47 03-25-91 8898 <--> 8910
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ADDRESS
You have a two ended mailbox?
Msg #8906 Dated 17:11:20 03-25-91 8899 <--> 8921
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT CAN I SAY?
Ditto
Msg #8909 Dated 17:45:24 03-25-91 8903 <--> 8948
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RANDY LUND (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
How much?
Msg #8910 Dated 17:46:02 03-25-91 8905 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ADDRESS
Yes.
Msg #8918 Dated 20:44:24 03-25-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: BOOX
I just found a dupe Vernon Lost Secrets (the new books) Vol. 1 (I have
two of this one) so I will swap for a Number 3 if someone wants to.
Also have dupe IReland Yearbook 1940. Does anyone know the complete
run?
I have 1934-1970 missing only 1939 and 1941. Were these published? Or
was wartime cause to stop??? Like to know.
Just getting back. To those of you I agreed on for book sales, in
couple of days will finalise and get them packed. Thanks for your
patience.
Msg #8920 Dated 22:45:37 03-25-91 8802 <--> 8930
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: ANY DUTCH IN VEGAS??
Peter has promised something very soon.
Msg #8921 Dated 23:08:30 03-25-91 8899 <--> 8990
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT CAN I SAY?
The possibility that computers have a soul is one to be debated in the
long range future - along with civil rights for silicon life forms.
But for now, you are right on target - it isn't the computers or the
modems or the telephone wires - it is the web of living magic that all
of us weave here on MAGIC!
I view the MAGIC! Gold Diskette as something that will not be awarded
anually, but that is given when it is EARNED. This year two of the
best web spinners in magic earned it for what they do, every day, for
MAGIC!
On with the bass solo, Tabman.
Msg #8922 Dated 23:16:29 03-25-91 8771 <--> 8973
From: STEVE SILVERMAN
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: 3 COIN TRICK
Don't know yet about the IBM meeting...may have to bring some guests
to the MC. If I can do both I'll let you know.
Msg #8923 Dated 23:18:07 03-25-91 -> 8931
From: STEVE SILVERMAN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KANNIBALS
I missed the pleasure of meeting you at DM last
weekend.....but I did bring, "GYPSY CURSE", just in
case. Anyhow, during the Thursday afternoon closeup
session a magician performed a version of, "CANNIBAL
CARDS". You know, the one where the four Kings (K is
for Kannibal) devour a number of missionaries. I have
seen a similar version performed by Tom Ogden years ago
at the Castle. This magician mentioned your name as a
possible source of a transcript for the handling of
this routine. If this is true I would sure appreciate
any information you could shed. It is a neeeeet effect
and it looks like fun to perform. Thanks in advance for
your help.
Msg #8925 Dated 0:49:41 03-26-91 -> 8932
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: TRAVELING
I will be traveling for a few days. Probably will be in touch on
Friday. Nope, no fax number either!
Msg #8927 Dated 4:20:05 03-26-91
From: DAVE MAGNENAT
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: WABBITS
Richard,
Yes the rabbit info was quite helpoful...my wife brought it hom ethe
next day, in fact. It's still quite young and I'm following some of
your and other people's suggestions.
I'd be very interested in the construction info on the mirror box!
Thanks for the offer...I'd better others here would be interested too.
I'm looking forward to it.
BTW, Hollywood Magic is a LONG way off...I'm calling from the Seatle
area!
Dave Wobbles
Msg #8930 Dated 7:42:59 03-26-91 8802 <--> 8991
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: ANY DUTCH IN VEGAS??
I saw Hans Trixer there, he was doing his routine with the small Ivory
balls (and Joe Stevens had Georges Proust there selling the effect).
Msg #8931 Dated 7:44:44 03-26-91 8923 <--> 8959
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE SILVERMAN (X)
Re: KANNIBALS
You might query Maven, here, on the original source. Lin Searles seems
to come to mind. However there was a version that Matt Corin and I
developed some time back and if I should find it I will put it online.
It is in one of my mysterious piles of files.... Hey, I got all my
books in order, and am nearly finished filing all my lecture note
collection!!!
Also want to thank all those that sent me the Gypsy Curse instructions.
I can wholesle them now with my inventory!!!! (G)
Msg #8932 Dated 7:46:39 03-26-91 8925 <--> 8937
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: TRAVELING
I know how to get you with a pidgeon drop!
Msg #8937 Dated 9:38:23 03-26-91 8925 <-
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP)
Re: TRAVELING
Don't worry. No fax. I learned my lesson.
Msg #8940 Dated 11:09:20 03-26-91 -> 8941
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: INSANITY STRIKES
I have lost the msg w/yo address.... chjeeezh
OR to you want me to fax the stuff on faro. Send address anyway and I
will fax also.... crap
Msg #8941 Dated 11:23:35 03-26-91 8940 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: INSANITY STRIKES
T. Crabb
Box 590
Charlotte Hall, MD 20622
301-884-8484 fax 0308
Msg #8942 Dated 11:21:45 03-26-91 -> 8943
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WORK
Just for my own information, and I won't tell anyone, don't you work?
You are on the board at all times during the day.
Or perhaps you have a computer in your office, as I do, so you can
monitor and answer whenever the urge hits you.
Finally got ahold of Geno in Vegas and will probably see him next
month in Vegas at the NAB.
Msg #8943 Dated 15:37:42 03-26-91 8942 <--> 8946
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: WORK
There you go again.
Msg #8944 Dated 16:17:01 03-26-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: AUCTION
I wanted to thank you for participating in the fund
raising project for MAGIC! and am happy that you are satisfied
with what you received.
You should share some of your stories re: getting started
in magic around Joe Berg and his Magic Studio as each bit of
history sheds light upon the overall picture.
We had an excellent time at The Desert Magic Seminar. I
wished you had been there to pick up the Berg/Bamberg check in
person, but am happy to hear you and Dr. Lichtman had lunch where
he passed it along.
Am glad you like it. You deserve it. Thanks....
Msg #8946 Dated 16:23:46 03-26-91 8942 <--> 8987
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: WORK
Sure I work. I am a freelance writer/photographer and magical
peformer/producer -- I work at home!!! Unless I am out on a photo
assignment, which is usually from Thursdays through Sundays about 2
times a month. Except in May where I spend 4 weeks in Indianapolis. My
specialty is auto racing and I work for major companies, like Goodyear,
Ford, Chrysler and a couple of magazines, like Car and Driver,
Automobile and sometimes Sports Illustrated.
Just started to write the first of 600 planned books on magic.
Msg #8948 Dated 17:05:56 03-26-91 8909 <-
From: RANDY LUND
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
$25.00 buys the whole thing..........
.
Msg #8949 Dated 17:07:35 03-26-91 -> 8966
From: RANDY LUND
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
I talked to Marilyn about your idea...She prefed the original plot
where I got to play the straight man and she got to make a fool of
me...somehow I am not surprised. Did a close up show this last weekend
and once again noticed that the only two people who made grabs for the
cards/coins etc. were women. I wonder if women feel more
comfortable/safe invading a mans space than a man would feel invading
either another mans or especially a womans space. At any rate I have
started to take closer note of these things since this discussion
started and I may start to experiment with some restructuring of style
that take this into account. I definitely plan to watch what people I
get close to.
.
Thanks for the idea....Randy
Msg #8952 Dated 18:19:10 03-26-91 8883 <--> 8958
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
Never lose that smartaxeness, it's not a curse its a blessing, so bless
you!
Msg #8953 Dated 18:23:02 03-26-91 8872 <--> 9069
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: SAN FRANCISCO AND MAGIC
SAM in Concord meets on the second wednesday, to be exact. Leave me a
note on MAGIC! if you want the address.
Msg #8954 Dated 19:11:07 03-26-91 8859 <--> 8968
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SEMINAR
Tabby, thanks for the nice words re "Apparitions." It's always
nice to find that someone actually reads this stuff. You are
right -- I am wiped out from the trip. Hard to believe that
you and Peter and David have already returned and placed
interesting reports on the convention. I'll upload some
thoughts of my own in a day or so. I attended a couple of
things that you guys missed, and can offer some fresh
perspectives, I hope, on some of the things we all witnessed.
Msg #8955 Dated 19:58:11 03-26-91 -> 8961
From: JIM SISTI
To: ALL
Re: BEADS OF PRUSSIA
I just picked up a "Beads of Prussia" at the local SAM auction and it
looks like it might be an interesting addition to my kids show. Anyone
have any presentational ideas? I think the trick might lend itself to
a "fairy tale" type of presentation, but I'm open to other ideas.
Let's hear some!
Msg #8956 Dated 20:00:56 03-26-91
From: JIM SISTI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MALINI EGG BAG
Just wanted to thank you for the Egg Bag routine. I got it yesterday
and I'l let you know what I think as soon as I get a chance to sit down
with it and the bag. Thanks again..
Msg #8958 Dated 20:07:53 03-26-91 8952 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD/HALL
Thanks. Nice to appreciated for something other than my massive
intellekt.
Msg #8959 Dated 21:44:30 03-26-91 8931 <--> 9051
From: STEVE SILVERMAN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KANNIBALS
Thanks Pete, I'll check with Max. Congratulations on getting your
books and notes in order.....hope it lasts.
Msg #8961 Dated 21:54:59 03-26-91 8955 <-
From: STEVE SILVERMAN
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: BEADS OF PRUSSIA
I puchased a set from John Fedko at a Magic Castle swap meet some years
back. I have used it in kids shows and it is well received. My patter
is the standard story of the Queen's string of beads that broke. I
have entertained the idea of starting out with all but the gaffed bead
strung on a length of string or dental floss with the gaffed bead
either palmed or stolen when getting a pair of scissors. The effect then
becomes a cut and restored string of beads. I would also be interested
in hearing some other ideas.
Msg #8966 Dated 23:46:54 03-26-91 8949 <--> 9088
From: PETE BIRO
To: RANDY LUND (X)
Re: WOMEN IN MAGIC
Maybe you could avoid placing anything "grab-able" near the ladies?
I know some magicians in the past tell me there are ways to set it up
so NO ONE reaches for anything... lot of it has to do with attitude.
But I don't know "which" kind of attitude... keep tabs...
Msg #8968 Dated 23:49:43 03-26-91 8954 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SEMINAR
Lookin' forward to reading much as possible, as when involved like I am
you don't get to relax and see anything...
Msg #8973 Dated 0:33:44 03-27-91 8922 <-
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: STEVE SILVERMAN (X)
Re: 3 COIN TRICK
sound good to me!
c ya
Msg #8974 Dated 0:42:36 03-27-91 -> 9070
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: DARRELL MURPHY (X)
Re: RING 21
Darrell,
Do you have the specs on the April meeting yet? I got the newsletter a
day before last months meeting and just about forgot to go. Can't have
that happen.
Msg #8975 Dated 0:46:12 03-27-91 -> 8976
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSHOTTEN
Re: MAGIC NL
ARNAUD: I couldn't get on to MAGIC-NL without all kinds of line
interference and garbled words. So, I hope you read my Video request
here on MAGIC! Let me know. Thanks.
Msg #8976 Dated 1:55:26 03-27-91 8975 <--> 8981
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC NL
Pete,
Saw the request will prepare an answer and let you know ASAP. If you
have more info or plans on paper, give them to Tommy, I will see him
soon again. Give him my regards.
Dank je wel (that's the correct spelling....)
Msg #8978 Dated 6:24:33 03-27-91 -> 8979
From: ERIC RONNE
To: ALL
Re: TAMARIZ
Tamariz lectured last night at Magic, Inc. here in Chicago. I
sat--STOOD, THAT IS (jammed room!) with mouth agape for over 2 hours.
This was my first "live" exposure to Juan, and the hype I've been
hearing for so long is ALL TRUE! Magic will never die as long as we
have men with a love/commitment such as he!
Msg #8979 Dated 6:44:13 03-27-91 8978 <--> 8982
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ERIC RONNE (X)
Re: TAMARIZ
Yeeesssss!
Msg #8981 Dated 8:02:56 03-27-91 8976 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: MAGIC NL
OK
Msg #8982 Dated 8:03:52 03-27-91 8979 <--> 9023
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TAMARIZ
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
Msg #8985 Dated 9:53:41 03-27-91
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: PHX VISITOR
Geno, I ran into Mike Rogers at the Phoenix convention and as we
werechating your name came up. I told him I had seen your name on the
BBSand he asked that the next time I signed on that I send along his
bestwishes to you.
Msg #8986 Dated 10:05:55 03-27-91 -> 8995
From: TABBY CRABB
To: SYSOP
Re: DIXIE TOUR
Guess you guys are deep in Dixie somewheres and won't be
online til friday or so.
Thanks for delivering the Berg/Bamberg/MAGIC! piece to
Richard Hart. Wish I coulda been there to see his eyes light up
when he saw that check and rubbed that antique mahogany.
Me, I'm trying to catch up on some work in the music
studio and then back in the shop for a few days. Maybe I'll write
up some tips on editing prerecorded music for the interested few
after what I heard at the Challange. Will think on it.
Had a true blast in Vegas and hope to be around next year
for the gathering. Was neat being in the same hotel much less the
same room with so much talent as Calvert, Jennings, Palmer,
Tamarez, The Wilsons, Chappell, Jade, Steinmeyer, Gaughan,
Hobson, Biro, Alan, Marshall, Burton, Munari, Grippo, etc,
etc,etc,etc.....
Biro was right, just put all your money down on red at
the first roulette table you see and you pay for your trip.
Msg #8987 Dated 10:15:33 03-27-91 8943 <--> 8988
From: MARVIN STERN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WORK
I didn't mean anything bad. Being new to magic, I'm just trying to
learn what I can about the old-timers.
Gee, I hope that doesn't sound bad.
Msg #8988 Dated 10:18:40 03-27-91 8946 <--> 8996
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WORK
Enjoyed getting the info. I'll be sure to buy your books as they come
off the press.
Don't know if I'll live long enough for all 600.
Would you autograph them for me?
Msg #8989 Dated 10:23:02 03-27-91 -> 8997
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: ALL
Re: PHX OFFERING
I thought I would fill in the members of MAGIC! with a
shortreport on the Phoenix Convention. We were quite fortunate to
beable to offer a terrific list of lecturers at the three day
event.Robert Baxt led off the series on Friday, followed by Larry
Beckerand finally Loren Michaels. I really enjoyed how Becker takes
somesimple techniques and coupled with terrific presentational
ideasdisplays stimulating examples of mental magic. The first of
two evening public shows featured the works ofCheri Soleil, Kevin
James, Billy McComb, and James Williams (a 19year old Castle Jr.) The
acts were very good, but unfortunatelyKevin James drew a color blind
and brain dead lighting tech and wasforced to stop his show to ask
multiple times for a blue spot for afloating effect. It had to be
maddending to know you cannotcontinue and still be left hanging on
stage with an audienceassistant with him no less. Saturday
brought lectures by Jay Malbrough, George Sands andKevin James. George
is the creator of the Sandsational Rope Routinethat David Copperfield
was doing, or a version of same when he hadhis mishap. Some of "the
boys" got together and passed out bandaidsto all the attendee's. As he
was introduced, the mishap wasmentioned where upon George noticed one
in the front row with abandaged finger, then another, and another until
it dawned on himthe whole room had a firm hold on his leg. The joke
put him away! On the second evening show, we were treated to
LorenMichaels. I don't know if I haver ever seen anyone open a show
onsuch a high plane. He almost received a standing 'O', but
theaudience was so amazed by the high output level. Robert
Baxtfollowed with his quality comedy/magic. Allan Rasco performed
doveand card work. Unfortunately, his opening had
techncaldifficulities, his not the lighting and the act got off on the
wrongfoot. The first half was rounded out by Devino. While using
heavytheatrics, he has a deeply bizzarist turn and was very
wellreceived by the teens. However, I preferred his routine from
theSan Diego IBM convention. Joe Monti opened the second half
followedby Del Ray and closed by Andre Kole. Del Ray justly deserved
thestanding 'O' he received for the timing he exhibits interacting
withhis mechanics. A true artist. The last day held close-up
shows and lectures by BillyMcComb and Mike Rogers. Great stuff. The
best was definitely savedfor last with a planned one hour close-up show
by Del Ray. Insteadof one hour he throughly captivated approx. 150
people for twostraight hours of close-up. To describe it here would be
futile,but I will answer any questions that the membership might
have.Suffice it to say I was in wonderland. The draw of this man
isimpressive. He caused Michael Weber and Ricky Jay to fly in just
tosee him. The most impressive, however, was the couple who flew
infrom Japan for the convention just because he would be there.
There you have it, it wasn't short but it sure was sweet!
Msg #8990 Dated 10:24:55 03-27-91 8906 <--> 8998
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT CAN I SAY?
It certainly is nice to see that you maintain such a high level of
communication intellect on this board.
Msg #8991 Dated 10:26:23 03-27-91 8930 <--> 8999
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ANY DUTCH IN VEGAS??
Pete...I think you are confusing Claude Rix with Hans Trixler...the
effect with the small ivory balls is called the Begger's Pearls.
Msg #8992 Dated 10:34:43 03-27-91 -> 9000
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: ALL
Re: TEXT TRANSFER
I can't seem to get my last message sent in it's entirety.
Any ideas would be appreciated so I could enter the complete
report. I also wonder why some spaces are not being sent.
Msg #8993 Dated 10:39:06 03-27-91 -> 9002
From: PAT HOLCOMBE
To: ALL
Re: PHOENIX OFFERING
I thought I would fill in the members of MAGIC! with ashort
report on the Phoenix Convention. We were quite fortunateto be able to
offer a terrific list of lecturers at the threeday event. Robert Baxt
led off the series on Friday, followedby Larry Becker and finally Loren
Michaels. I really enjoyedhow Becker takes some simple techniques and
coupled withterrific presentational ideas displays stimulating examples
ofmental magic. The first of two evening public shows featured
the worksof Cheri Soleil, Kevin James, Billy McComb, and James
Williams(a 19 year old Castle Jr.) The acts were very good,
butunfortunately Kevin James drew a color blind and brain deadlighting
tech and was forced to stop his show to ask multipletimes for a blue
spot for a floating effect. It had to bemaddending to know you cannot
continue and still be left hangingon stage with an audience assistant
with him no less. Saturday brought lectures by Jay Malbrough,
George Sandsand Kevin James. George is the creator of the Sandsational
RopeRoutine that David Copperfield was doing, or a version of samewhen
he had his mishap. Some of "the boys" got together andpassed out
bandaids to all the attendee's. As he wasintroduced, the mishap was
mentioned where upon George noticedone in the front row with a bandaged
finger, then another, andanother until it dawned on him the whole room
had a firm hold onhis leg. The joke put him away! On the second
evening show, we were treated to LorenMichaels. I don't know if I
haver ever seen anyone open a showon such a high plane. He almost
received a standing 'O', butthe audience was so amazed by the high
output level. RobertBaxt followed with his quality comedy/magic.
Allan Rascoperformed dove and card work. Unfortunately, his opening
hadechnical difficulities, his not the lighting and the act gotoff on
the wrong foot. The first half was rounded out byDevino. While using
heavy theatrics, he has a deeply bizzaristturn and was very well
received by the teens. However, Ipreferred his routine from the San
Diego IBM convention. JoeMonti opened the second half followed by Del
Ray and closed byAndre Kole. Del Ray justly deserved the standing 'O'
hereceived for the timing he exhibits interacting with hismechanics.
A true artist. The last day held close-up shows and lectures
by BillyMcComb and Mike Rogers. Great stuff. The best was
definitelysaved for last with a planned one hour close-up show by Del
Ray.Instead of one hour he throughly captivated approx. 150 peoplefor
two straight hours of close-up. To describe it here wouldbe futile,
but I will answer any questions that the membershipmight have. Suffice
it to say I was in wonderland. The draw ofthis man is impressive. He
caused Michael Weber and Ricky Jayto fly in just to see him. The most
impressive, however, wasthe couple who flew in from Japan for the
convention justbecause he would be there. There you have it, it
wasn't short but it sure wassweet!
Still can't get it all in.
AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Msg #8995 Dated 10:46:42 03-27-91 8986 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DIXIE TOUR
Did I say that?
Msg #8996 Dated 10:47:24 03-27-91 8988 <--> 9005
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: WORK
I'll be having a rubber stamp made! I hope I live long enough to write
the 600th volume!
Msg #8997 Dated 10:49:32 03-27-91 8989 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: PAT HOLCOMBE (X)
Re: PHX OFFERING
I have always said, "Del Ray has the most INCREDIBLE close up act in
magic HISTORY! Un-equalled anywhere. I am really glad to hear he made
the trip and IS STILL WORKING after his illness of a year or two back.
Guess I'll have to hire him for the IBM in Salt Lake in '92!!!!
Good report, like to see what's happening around this ol' country of
ou.
Msg #8998 Dated 10:51:18 03-27-91 8990 <--> 9124
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: WHAT CAN I SAY?
Obviously, sir, you are new to this BBS. You must learn all the secret
words and incantations utilized by the cogniscenti. Of which, should
you so desire, you might well become one of, some day.
Good sentance structure and bad spelling are definite requirements
needed to sustain such threads as one deems appropriate to the needs of
the day (or night)!
But Seriously, Folks... GREAT TO HAVE YOU ONLINE... Adios, Amigo...
Msg #8999 Dated 10:53:17 03-27-91 8991 <--> 9125
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ANY DUTCH IN VEGAS??
Gad, you are right. I always got those guys mixed up because they both
have bulging eyes! It must be a Dutch Trait (not treat)??? Look at
Peter Pit. He had his bags removed and they grew back! True story. Jos
Bema, AKA Tommy Wonder is here and we will be dining tonite! No packet
tricks planned.
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