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Msg #6001 Dated 14:30:40 06-13-91 -> 6016
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I'm ready to Jot 'em down... GET READY FOR MY NEXT THREE MESSAGES!
Msg #6003 Dated 14:53:24 06-13-91 -> 6027
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: FRUSTRATION
I have tried five times to upload a great couple of moves with the cups
and balls but I get to about line 38 and the computer freezes. I don't
know what it is... but... in the meantime, I hope to load TWO MORE
MESSAGES RIGHT NOW... WITH VERY VERY COMMERCIAL MAGIC... CROSS FINGERS.
Msg #6004 Dated 14:54:29 06-13-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC SANS!
How many of you like the Benson (or also called the Don Alan)
Bowl routine?
I have used a Plumber's Helper with the stick part as a wand. You
can use sponge balls under it and with the type that have a LIP
around the inner edge, can put a sponge ball on the Tabman Table,
push it forward and the ball lodges in the LIP and seems "gone".
Reverse the move and it comes back.
Also, for the first ball, I have on hidden in the place where the
stick screws in (unlike the Don Alan bit where you ring in the
ball by producing it from under your lapel).
HERE IS THE KILLER. I fooled Pat Page so bad with this he went
berserk.
The final load. A huge FISTFULL of Kennedy Half dollars. The
conditions. He was behind the counter at Davenports. The Surface
was a GLASS counter top. Doing the Bowl routine I wanted to come
up with a way to cover the noise of a load, just on a mat, not a
glass top... but this works for a glass top!! Send me $500 for
the secret. No, I'll only make you sweat until the next
message.<=ibWu}+
Msg #6005 Dated 14:55:40 06-13-91 -> 6012
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: ?
i THINK IT WENT???? LET ME KNOW IF PRIOR MESSAG ok. LAST WORD WAS
MESSAGE.
Msg #6006 Dated 15:09:04 06-13-91 -> 6192
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: HELP
I have just tried seven times to load a routine. I have torn the
computer off the wall and wadded it up.
Actually I just reloaded OLD PROCOMM (no plus) to see if the IMP! Codes
are what are causing me to not be able to upload a good old plain
vanilla ASKY FILE...
Msg #6007 Dated 15:10:11 06-13-91 -> 6013
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: LAST TRY
OK, here is the one trick worth a year on MAGIC!
YOU READ IT HERE FIRST.
Thank Wayne and Evan for pushing me into revealing some
conjuring, ok? Instead of a brass bowl, a rubber bowl, a plastic
bowl. You can do the bowl routine with a TAMBORINE! YES A
TAMBORINE. The noise it makes (on its own) covers up the sound of
a pile of half dollars as they crash down onto the glass counter
top. You can't tell! And that isn't even the good part. What
better ITEM to leave on your table to COLLECT TIPS IN!!!! Cut me
in for 20-percent! The Tamborine I use is about 7-inches in
diameter and I use a drumstick (not from a chicken) as the wand.
You can do a few musical bits with it leading into the routine.
Sorry if this is TIGHTLY WRIT, I had to eliminate spaces and such
because I was going nuts trying to upload it, something, spacing
or what, I don't know, kept aborting and locking my computer. I
have tried SEVEN TIMES...ggggrarghhhh.
it worked... hahahahahahahha only cost me about ten bucks to give you
all this.... harr everybody online owes me lunch, dinner and....
Msg #6008 Dated 15:15:47 06-13-91 -> 6010
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGES
That's the old line. What's the new one?
Whatever happened to that string? It started out with a bang, and then
nothing.
Pete, seriously, you sure have a lot of knowledge. Sure hope you
continue, or really increase the info that you give us.
I , for one, enjoy the "secrets" you share, and even enjoy some of your
fun comments. You sure come up with them quick. Tabman also.
Even what's his name, Sysop, can be fun.
Msg #6009 Dated 15:36:11 06-13-91 -> 6108
From: STAN LAKE
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: TOPPIT
I'll go ahead and give Ramon Galindo a call after I sign off here. I
tried getting ahold of Lynn Healy since she is closer but she has been
too busy to return my calls. That's not a bad idea to go ahead and
have him make a jacket up for me from scratch. Any idea what kind of
$$$ I should expect to pay for either just the topit or a sport coat
and topit combo?
Msg #6010 Dated 16:19:24 06-13-91 -> 6011
From: STAN LAKE
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MESSAGES
I know what you mean Marvin. Ever since the pots and pans started
flying about with the Amateur-Pro discussion I have been very reluctant
to join in any of the current topics. I too enjoy the Magic! BBS for
the fun and knowledge it provides. It seems the discussions have risen
to the proportions of verbal battles with various people defending
their positions more and more strenuously. I choose not to venture
into the foray but wait until more peaceable times pervade. I think I
had better duck before a pot or (dove)pan flies my way!
Msg #6011 Dated 16:33:52 06-13-91 6010 <--> 6107
From: MARVIN STERN
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MESSAGES
Yep, stick to your force decks.
Msg #6012 Dated 16:36:42 06-13-91 6005 <--> 6028
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
Yes, Pete....got the previous message with the last word, "message."
I don't want to read your next message for fear of owing you five
hundred!
'W.
Msg #6013 Dated 16:39:20 06-13-91 6007 <--> 6017
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Ten bucks, eh?
WHEW....I just save $490!
'W.
Msg #6015 Dated 16:49:37 06-13-91 -> 6020
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: ALL
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Yes, friends...
It's a lovely day today. The weather is perfect. The "What If" thread
has ended. Sun spot activity is in remission. No line noise. I've
even vacuumed up all the remnants of my magno-crazed chop cup!
Yes, dear friends, I'm back to the "Mr. Affable" side of my
double-Gemini self!
Hope you're all having a wonderful day, too.
'Wayne.
P.S. - Anybody know how to de-magnetize a Hoover upright vacuum
cleaner?
Msg #6016 Dated 17:01:01 06-13-91 -> 6019
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Actually, your message annoyed me. Cats, dogs, etc. I happen to be a
PLANTS RIGHTS ACTIVIST.
Msg #6017 Dated 17:02:31 06-13-91 6007 <--> 6029
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Pete--
Just got through trying the routine, but the chicken refuses to stay
put under the tambourine. Maybe I should reread your directions.
Msg #6019 Dated 17:04:23 06-13-91 -> 6021
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
It made perfect sense to me. Does that mean I should be wondering
about my mental health?
Msg #6020 Dated 17:09:19 06-13-91 6015 <--> 6030
From: MARVIN STERN
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Welcome back.
Msg #6021 Dated 17:05:47 06-13-91 -> 6037
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Think I've got a little bit of Lum and Abner around here someplace on
tape. An outfit called Greatapes (1523 Nicollet, Minneapolis, MN
55403, tel. 612-872-8284) has an album titled "America Before TV;
September 21, 1939, A Day From The Golden Age Of Radio." It is the
only known complete 30'stranscription of an entire broadcast day. It was
done at WJSV in Washington, DC.
The morning opener is a 2-hour program called "Sundial." Features a
guy named Arthur Godfrey. At the time he was a local announcer for the
station. Also includes such shows as "Pretty Kitty Kelly," "Bachelor's
Children," "When A Girl Marries," and "The Romance of Helen Trent."
I've been trying to work up a routine using some of the commercials
from it.
Msg #6022 Dated 17:15:14 06-13-91 -> 6055
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
You comming to the metaphorical beach? Good! Please bring the
metaphorical suntan lotion.
Msg #6023 Dated 17:16:19 06-13-91 -> 6035
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
Arrgh! . Just remember to keep a receipt for the Fed
Ex package, OK?
Msg #6024 Dated 17:17:04 06-13-91 -> 6325
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TABLES
Yep! I've got this magnifying thing that you put onto the front of
your glasses. The second best part of the trip to Showbiz Expo. was a
booth handing out magnifying glasses.
Msg #6025 Dated 17:18:03 06-13-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR UK?
The recipe for El Tabmans is pure R&R (I hope!). Er, I may be bringing
a board and a modem for him, but heck, installing serial ports is part
of the fun, right?
Msg #6027 Dated 17:20:19 06-13-91 6003 <--> 6116
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FRUSTRATION
About that one that won't upload - why don't you try uploading it to
the files area as a file. I'll take a look at it - fix it - and put it
in the message base.
Msg #6028 Dated 17:21:37 06-13-91 6005 <--> 6110
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
It got here! Last word was "message" but there was a small bit of
garbage after that. It's OK, none of it looks like the hazardous waste
(ASCII 1AH) that some messages contain. For that one, I have to drag
out a hex-editor before I can create the message file.
Msg #6029 Dated 17:23:52 06-13-91 6007 <--> 6040
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Pete -
That is WONDERFUL! BRILLIANT! Worth the ten buck donation you made to
the phone company to post it!
Msg #6030 Dated 17:25:40 06-13-91 6015 <--> 6053
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Are the sun spots really in remission? THANK GOODNESS if it is the
case! They have really played havoc with communications - even when
you don't think it is satellite they getcha. But before we all get too
comfy, maybe we'd better check on the phase of the moon.
Msg #6032 Dated 17:28:32 06-13-91 -> 6056
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
While we are all here at the metaphorical beach, playing volleyball,
flying our kites, and watching the scenery, I have a sort of
question/challenge I'd like to offer:
THE ISLAND MAGIC CHALLENGE
We sorta tried it before, but no-one seemed in the mood. I've examined
the entrails of a chicken (I found him under a tambourine) and the day
seems extraordinarily propitious, so here goes...
Suppose you were going to be cast onto a desert island. It is
populated with tourists from the U.S. who were left there when the
Minnow was caught in a storm. What one trick/effect/magical item would
you want to have with you?
Msg #6033 Dated 17:49:45 06-13-91 -> 6036
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: P. GOLDSTEIN BIBLIOGRAPHY
I'll try.
Msg #6035 Dated 17:49:54 06-13-91 -> 6120
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
WHAAAATT?? The fine print. Thats BS. I can't stand it. Where do these
companies get off?
Msg #6036 Dated 17:49:59 06-13-91 -> 6057
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: P. GOLDSTEIN BIBLIOGRAPHY
Maybe Radio Shack has a converter. You only need it to work for a
coupla weeks, right?
Msg #6037 Dated 17:50:04 06-13-91 -> 6038
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Bill's got that cool old Thurston stuff. I had lunch in his office
last Feb and checked everything out. A real guy. Nuff said.
Msg #6038 Dated 17:50:09 06-13-91 -> 6039
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I agree with what you said about men, women, dogs, cats, ducks etc.
Msg #6039 Dated 17:50:15 06-13-91 -> 6042
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Have never seen Goldfinger do the newspaper tear. The straight jacket
bit is good. It has taken me three days to get outa mine.
Msg #6040 Dated 17:50:21 06-13-91 6007 <--> 6111
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Oh man. That tamborine bit is priceless. Perfect. It kills me when I
think about it. BTW, I'm using YOUR modem string in old procomm and
it seems to be working fine with IMP. I tried out Procomm Plus but
don't really like it. Call me old fashioned, I don't care!!
Msg #6041 Dated 18:47:41 06-13-91 -> 6069
From: JERRY BURTON
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Not sure if its the same problem you are having, but this a.m. I
called about 6 times and kept getting connected at 300 baud (or so
PCPLUS thought) and then got weird characters coming onto the screen
(I assume if was the sign-on message). First attempts were using
magic.asx, finally manually (sans script file) dialed and got connect
- any help ??
Msg #6042 Dated 18:47:48 06-13-91 -> 6043
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
How about giving out colored belts so we can tell who's who in the
zoo ? That way you will know right away who to look up and down at.
Simplfies the whole process.
Msg #6043 Dated 18:47:59 06-13-91 -> 6044
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Amen bro. Some of these guys have no idea what they are going to do
or say prior to getting on the podium. They just reach into the bag
and do some more tricks - eecccchh !
Msg #6044 Dated 18:48:11 06-13-91 -> 6045
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Several years ago the NY magic symposium came to L.A. and David Roth
gave a lecture as part of the admission price. For those interested
he gave a private workshop for an extra $ 30 bucks limited to 15
people, it was super. He would show something and then each person
would try it, he came around to each one and critiqued your handling.
.
I wish there were more of these. Having personal instruction on the
basic sleights made his book a lot easier to follow, when going on to
learn the complete routines.
Msg #6045 Dated 18:48:25 06-13-91 -> 6046
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I have experimented with a couple of approaches and haven't found
one that is totally acceptable.
.
First download the msgs you haven't read yet, using rc;* (or the
MAGIC.ASX script for automatic download) into a capture file, e.g.
msgs.
.
Approach 1- Use Function 5 to append the newly downloaded msgs into
a work file (e.g. magic as output, msgs as input), then use Function
10 to reset your input outfiles as magic (input) and e.g. reply
(output). Enter Function 6 - this will start at the BEGINNING of
the magic file (the one you have been building). Use the F to find
the first msg in the new batch you just added (You can see what that
is when you ran Function 5). This now positions your base pointer to
the newly added messages. You can now read threads both forward and
backward as you view the new messages. You can also go back to msgs
that were previously loaded into the magic file. Since the magic
file is a concatenation of a bunch of daily logs it can be quite
large. When you push the <- to go backward in a thread IMP always
starts a the beginning of the file and searches for the backward
msg, this can take a while if the file is very large. Eventually
I'll probably add an index file to accompany the the txt being
viewed, which would speed up the process a great deal.
.
Approach 2 - Rename the capture file to correspond to the day, e.g.
0613.lg1 where lg means log and 1 is the first log on for the day,
lg2 is the second etc. Just bring up IMP and specify 0613.lg1 as the
input file and a unique output name e.g. 0613.rp1 (for replies to
0613.lg1, rp2 for lg2, etc.). You will start with only the new messag
es and can read threads in a forward (or backward if they exist in th
e same file). The problem is you can't GO BACK to a msg that was in
a prior day's capture file.
.
I tend to use Approach 2 because it is quicker, but approach 1 allows
more complete access to an entire thread. Hope this helps.
.
The Enter function for creating new threads shoild be uploaded tonight,
since David fixed the privacy prompt. You should then be able to
perform
E (enter new thread), A (append to existing thread), and R (reply to
message currently being displayed).
.
Has your on-line time decreased much ?
.
Burton the Bizarre
Msg #6046 Dated 18:48:59 06-13-91 -> 6047
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Normally, they ask to your membership card at the door. I really
think its to keep the holdovers from brunch from wandering in
thinking its another show.
Msg #6047 Dated 18:49:09 06-13-91 -> 6048
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Aha - David check this out. Pete used the A function which shows in
the IMP generated file as ea;5712, and ended up with a msg to himself
.
Note that from is correct, why is the to being set the same ?
Shouldn't it be the same 'to' as msg 5712 ?
Msg #6048 Dated 18:49:17 06-13-91 -> 6051
From: JERRY BURTON
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
A non-magician sees a professional do something really mind boggling
and the person wants to know more about magic. He goes to his 'local'
magic shop and asks how can he learn more about magic. The guy direct
s him to the local magic club. The guy goes to the club, and finds
that they are happy to have a new member. He buys a few tricks learns
them (kinda) and NOW HE IS ALSO A MAGICIAN.
.
Some never get past that stage. Others through hard work and study
do start to do 'shows' outside the club and may eventually even do
shows for pay.
.
The point is, who is responsible for creating this 'new amateur' that
many hold in low regard. Could it have been the Pro who turned him on
in the first place ? Do you have any idea how many people you are
responsible for bringing into magic ?
Msg #6049 Dated 18:52:01 06-13-91 -> 6050
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAVEN'S KIRIGAMI
I wasn't offended by Max, and i am glad it happened. It has increased
my awareness of the history of magic. If I had it to do over, I'd
prefer not to learn it the way I did, but at least it's learned.
Originally I asked Dr. L to take the message off, but I liked his idea
of being an example. Maybe others will learn this lesson about delving
into the history of illusions and magic. Another good thing is I have
an interesting story to pass on to other magi (Especially with next
week's PCAM convention!).
Msg #6050 Dated 18:57:56 06-13-91 -> 6065
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAVEN'S KIRIGAMI
Finally! Thanks for the answer. That question of Maven's was driving
me up the wall.
Msg #6051 Dated 19:29:57 06-13-91 6021 <--> 6052
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
"Hewahya, hewahya, hewahya!"
Msg #6052 Dated 19:31:20 06-13-91 6042 <--> 6059
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I won't be drawn into this again, Jerry...even though....oh, nevermind!
'W.
Msg #6053 Dated 19:34:31 06-13-91 6020 <--> 6054
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Thanks, Marv :)
Msg #6054 Dated 19:35:21 06-13-91 6030 <--> 6062
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
I believe so. An added bonus: the division of phone company trucks
that have invaded my neighborhood to install new lines seems to have
finished their work and their coffee breaks and their naps and have
left the area. AND....Elvis has left the building!
'W.
Msg #6055 Dated 19:37:36 06-13-91 6022 <--> 6063
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Yes and I don't wanna play any metaphorical volleyball, either!
'W.
Msg #6056 Dated 19:34:04 06-13-91 6032 <--> 6064
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
This seems too simple, but assuming you know enough tricks it would be
hard to beat the mileage you can get out of a regular deck of cards.
Even if you happened to tote along copperfields vanishing dining car
illusion, how many times can you show the same trick over and over and
keep an audience? A new deck of good cards gets my vote.
Msg #6057 Dated 19:45:08 06-13-91 6033 <--> 6067
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: P. GOLDSTEIN BIBLIOGRAPHY
P.S. - In case you can't tell, I survived today's meeting. Barely, but
crawling out beats crawling in.
Msg #6059 Dated 19:51:10 06-13-91 6047 <--> 6061
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yep. And if you take a look at message # 5712 it IS _TO_ Pete Biro.
So both IMP and MAGIC! did their jobs. Biro? That's another matter...
Small bug in his operating system - probably a bad ROM.
Msg #6061 Dated 19:53:11 06-13-91 6051 <--> 6072
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Actually, Nope! He hadn't invented that yet! He just sorta babbles
other nonsense.
Msg #6062 Dated 19:55:56 06-13-91 6054 <--> 6093
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Last time the phone folks showed up to add lines to MAGIC! they sent
one rather nice helpful guy. Then a second one showed up and told me,
"Looks like we have a big job here. Let's see... We're gonna have to
replace the..."
"YOU GO," I said, "He stays!"
He got the message and the job got done as originally planned.
Msg #6063 Dated 19:58:39 06-13-91 6055 <--> 6094
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
OK - You can join me and fly a metaphorical kite.
Msg #6064 Dated 19:59:35 06-13-91 6056 <--> 6070
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
SPEAKING (or typing) OF WHICH - I got a PACKAGE today - The two
replacement decks from USPC! Let's see... I think I sent 'em to 'em in
March or April...
Personally, I thought of a deck of cards too. Then I thought of
carrying Max Maven on my shoulders.
Msg #6065 Dated 20:24:50 06-13-91 6049 <--> 6066
From: TABBY CRABB
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAVEN'S KIRIGAMI
You must be a good guy. Same with me, MAGIC! has increased my
awareness of who, what, when, where, and why. I think most of us feel
the same way. We want to progress in the art and pain is part of that
progression. I know I've experienced my share. The beauty of it all
is that we're benefitting from each other's mistakes (hopefully) and
MAGIC! is making part of that progression possible. Glad you're here.
Msg #6066 Dated 20:24:58 06-13-91 6050 <--> 6653
From: TABBY CRABB
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAVEN'S KIRIGAMI
Actually, Horace Goldin was one of the Goldsteins and I forget who th
other one was. Marty Goldstein is a blackjack dealer in Vegas.
Msg #6067 Dated 20:25:03 06-13-91 6057 <--> 6121
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: P. GOLDSTEIN BIBLIOGRAPHY
Glad to hear you survived today's meeting with those pinstripes.
Msg #6069 Dated 20:25:15 06-13-91 6041 <--> 6163
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Hey, there you are! Almost called you tonight to see if you were OK
as have missed The Bizarre One online past day or so.
Msg #6070 Dated 20:25:28 06-13-91 6064 <--> 6071
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Can I take my shop?
Msg #6071 Dated 20:51:44 06-13-91 6070 <--> 6085
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Sure! Why not? I'm told it is rapidly becoming one of the most
important magic places around.
Msg #6072 Dated 21:10:28 06-13-91 -> 6073
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
There were a number of magic shops but not plenty -- and they were
usually backroom places, not open to the general public. And no, there
weren't many magazines at all.
Msg #6073 Dated 21:11:55 06-13-91 -> 6074
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Re Kottke: it's amazing he can get all that sound out of one guitar
without overdubbing. Pretty spooky.
Msg #6074 Dated 21:13:38 06-13-91 -> 6075
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I don't beleive in people being "recruited" into art forms. I also
think that -- as with acting in particular and show business in general
-- that anyone who can be discouraged from pursuing it should be; the
ones that are left have the commitment.
I believe that providing a welcoming environment FOR THE SINCERE
ARTIST is a wonderful thing -- and again, I do not believe that putting
up with bad behavior or bad ideas (such as getting one's ideas of what
to perform from the acts of others) is a way to help that sincere
person.
You also seem to think that magic would not exist today without the
clubs, conventions, etc. I couldn't disagree more. Hobby magic
couldn't, of course, but that's true of any hobby. Magic as a
performance art existed through apprenticeship long before the current
situation, and could exist now without it.
Msg #6075 Dated 21:19:31 06-13-91 -> 6076
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I did not mean to imply that financial success = art, if in fact I did
-- but just as there are many committed actors who make some of their
living other ways because they don't wish to compromise their art by
doing crap, there are magicians in much the same situation.
Msg #6076 Dated 21:22:09 06-13-91 -> 6077
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Or how about artists and non-artists?
Msg #6077 Dated 21:23:24 06-13-91 -> 6078
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
The Newmann book is not a great example; it is nearly half-a-million
words long, and in terms of material is more than reasonable for the
money.
Msg #6078 Dated 21:25:31 06-13-91 -> 6079
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Not using IMP yet -- that way, if I say anything spectacularly stupid
online, I can always say it was a typo...
Msg #6079 Dated 21:27:03 06-13-91 -> 6080
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Peter Warlock was less benign than you are; he characterizes some of
them as "trick-conscious cretins"...
Msg #6080 Dated 21:28:25 06-13-91 -> 6081
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Ah, but the point with the Magic Circle is that it is perceived as a
professional organization by the lay Brit public -- so if a female
magician can't be a member she is clearly financially aggrieved. The
funny thing is, of course, it is by no means what the public thinks it
is.
Msg #6081 Dated 21:34:17 06-13-91 -> 6086
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Gee, I dunno, David; I'm finding the Katz-Powers debate immensely
entertaining. Besides...Wayne is saving me a lot of typing.
Msg #6082 Dated 21:42:55 06-13-91 -> 6133
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
Davenport was also known for vanishing a glassful of RICE -- not the
glass -- just the rice; didn't miss a grain, I'm told.
Msg #6083 Dated 21:44:42 06-13-91 -> 6090
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
And 1938 is A VERY GOOD YEAR INDEED.
Msg #6085 Dated 21:52:07 06-13-91 6032 <--> 6092
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Either the Appearing Boat -- or the appearing Sheena Easton.
Msg #6086 Dated 21:54:30 06-13-91 6076 <--> 6087
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Not unreasonable. The definition of artist in my dictionary does
include "a skilled performer," although it also includes some broader
definition. If its use is not too weakened by the common use of the
term, then it sounds fine to me.
Msg #6087 Dated 21:55:59 06-13-91 6074 <--> 6088
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Now, if I were still actively participating in this thread, I would
say, "I couldn't agree more!"
JUDGE WAPNER: The jury will disregard Mr. Powers' comments, as he is
no longer participating in this thread.
DOUG LLEWELLYN: We'll be back with the verdict after these words from
your local station...
.
'W.
Msg #6088 Dated 21:58:53 06-13-91 6077 <--> 6089
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
OK, pick a locked book then. I'm simply suggesting that there are high
priced, limited edition books around. Has anyone ever done a high
priced, limited edition seminar in magic?
Msg #6089 Dated 22:01:19 06-13-91 6081 <--> 6095
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
OK, why don't we move it to a live venue and charge admission? (You
and I can split the fee and give each of them a trophy at the
conclusion). How about something like high noon in front of Super Pig?
Msg #6090 Dated 22:02:19 06-13-91 6083 <--> 6174
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
There is a local electronic bulletin board named "1939" (An even better
year - had a World's Fair; some say the last really good one). The
sysop is a young man who LIVES in 1939. Collects World's Fair
memorabilia and chats about it as a contemporary event. If anyone
wishes, I'll provide the phone number.
Msg #6092 Dated 22:05:04 06-13-91 6085 <--> 6096
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Good choices!
Msg #6093 Dated 22:02:56 06-13-91 6062 <--> 6099
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Ma Bell field technicians may not be the greatest, but they're a step
above postal workers, two steps above DWP road crews and three steps
above anyone who works at the DMV!
(There I go dividing the masses again!)
'W.
Msg #6094 Dated 22:07:13 06-13-91 6063 <--> 6100
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Before this goes too far, let me be the first to drop the metaphorical
ball.
'W.
Msg #6095 Dated 22:08:14 06-13-91 6075 <--> 6113
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
As to a response, deponent saith naught.
Msg #6096 Dated 22:08:15 06-13-91 6032 <--> 6097
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I guess my Hippity Hop Rabbits wouldn't be allowed, huh?
'W.
Msg #6097 Dated 22:12:09 06-13-91 6096 <--> 6101
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Sure! Why not?
Msg #6099 Dated 22:12:35 06-13-91 6093 <--> 6102
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Alas, I live and work in GTE country - the only phone company with the
motto "The Power Is On" (and I don't think they mean Wayne Powers).
Sometimes they use the alternate motto, "We Hear You." Raw power and
wiretapping? Great way to run a phone company.
Whenever field technicians arrive, I always determine if they are
employees or contractors. I can relate to, and usually have much
better luck with, the contractors.
Once, when I complained about line noise, an employee told me, "We are
under no specific obligation to supply you with a line free from noise.
We are only obliged to supply you with one with a dial tone."
Msg #6100 Dated 22:16:51 06-13-91 6094 <--> 6103
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
No problem. Only please don't drop it on my foot - it could hurt LIKE
Hell!
Msg #6101 Dated 22:17:44 06-13-91 6097 <--> 6104
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
This might make an interesting thread...
"Name 100 Good Reasons Why Hippity Hop Rabbits Should Be Outlawed"
(I'm embarrassed to say that I still have my old set and my childred
LOVE it!)
'W.
Msg #6102 Dated 22:21:02 06-13-91 6099 <--> 6112
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
I can think of a few snappy comebacks...none of which are suitable for
this board.
'W.
Msg #6103 Dated 22:21:55 06-13-91 6100 <--> 6149
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
...metaphorical Hell, that is!
'W.
Msg #6104 Dated 22:57:57 06-13-91 6101 <--> 6105
From: RICHARD HART
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I have the best reason why Hippity Hop Rabbits should be outlawed:
Everyone will stop doing Hippity Hops, leaving ME the only one
STILL doing them. Then I can sit back and take pot-shots at all
the other "copycats" who start doing them after seeing my routine!
Guffaw!
Msg #6105 Dated 23:01:37 06-13-91 6101 <--> 6106
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Hold it... Hippity Hop --- Norman's Elusive Rabbits if you want the
originator's name for the trick... is A GREAT EFFECT. Well presented it
can be a show stopper. Believe me! Just like the Die Box, done in
comedy clubs for today's so called Hip audiences the Die Box nails em
beautifully!
Msg #6106 Dated 23:03:10 06-13-91 6104 <--> 6119
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I am soon going to REVIVE Zig Zag... another great effect if done
right. No one I have ever seen does it the way Harbin created it. They
are all thieves anyway fi they didn't buy the book and the rights to
the trick.
Msg #6107 Dated 23:04:14 06-13-91 6008 <--> 6109
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MESSAGES
Much appreciate it when what I sed is appreciated. Especially here on
El MagiK!
Msg #6108 Dated 23:04:19 06-13-91 6009 <--> 6376
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TOPPIT
Anything Under $12.00 would be a real bargain.
Msg #6109 Dated 23:04:23 06-13-91 6010 <--> 6190
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MESSAGES
What you don't wanna get hit with is a discarded Zombie ball.
Msg #6110 Dated 23:04:27 06-13-91 6012 <--> 6117
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ?
The price went up, since I had so much trouble getting it uploaded.
Msg #6111 Dated 23:04:31 06-13-91 6013 <--> 6114
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: LAST TRY
You think yoy saved 490 - wait til you drive around for three weeks
trying to find the right size tamborine! Har.
Msg #6112 Dated 23:04:36 06-13-91 6015 <--> 6147
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Gemini Cricket, you too eh, massah!
Msg #6113 Dated 23:04:41 06-13-91 6016 <--> 6115
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Geo. Bush fall in to any catsassagory?
Msg #6114 Dated 23:04:46 06-13-91 6017 <--> 6118
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Guy driving along at 60 mph, notes a Chicken running alongside his ca
r, (this is a short version of the real story) he speeds up, Chicken
keeps up, now doing 90. Chicken still running alongside car, suddenly
goes up dirt road. Guy turns, follows chicken up dirt road. Chicken
runs into coop. Guy stops. Farmer comes walking over. Guy says, wow,
I cn't believe how fast that chicken could run. (Oh, forgot to say,
but chicken had FOUR LEGS)... Farmer says, "Yep, fastest chickens in
the world bred here." Guy says, how did you get a chicken with four
legs? Farmers says, "Well, I figger people like to eat legs, so if I
could breed a chicken with four legs, I 'd become rich. Guy says,
great idea, How do they taste? Farmer says, "I dunno, we've never
been able to catch one!." ARrrghhhh Har, etc. et al E Pluribus Unum.
Msg #6115 Dated 23:05:00 06-13-91 6021 <--> 6122
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
What ever happened to Hali Loki?
Msg #6116 Dated 23:05:05 06-13-91 6027 <--> 6165
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FRUSTRATION
I used the OLD PROCOMM and it went just fine... methinks the IMP!
SETTINGS aren't working for plain message sending.
Msg #6117 Dated 23:05:10 06-13-91 6028 <--> 6151
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
Garbage contained the real secret... let's keep it...
Msg #6118 Dated 23:05:15 06-13-91 6029 <--> 6124
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LAST TRY
I knew you'd say that.... argh to Ma Bell
Msg #6119 Dated 23:05:19 06-13-91 6032 <--> 6130
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
A Genii's lamp to change all the ugly people into beauties? No, one
to change me into a four legged... er, no, how about a deck of TV
magic cards.. no, wait, I got it... a sixth finger.
Msg #6120 Dated 23:05:26 06-13-91 6035 <--> 6220
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
They do anything to wait 'til their CDs mature before they pay.
Msg #6121 Dated 23:05:30 06-13-91 6036 <--> 6211
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: P. GOLDSTEIN BIBLIOGRAPHY
2 weeks. I got one someplace. Otherwise will bring my Tandy 200. It
works for days on penlights. The NEC gets about 3 hours out of two
$90 batteries. ARgh...
Msg #6122 Dated 23:05:36 06-13-91 6037 <--> 6123
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Bill who? Wells?
Msg #6123 Dated 23:05:40 06-13-91 6039 <--> 6125
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Just don't put too much starch in the collar. The laundry I used at
Indianapolis didn't starch the collars, they sharpened them.
Hah... old old old joke.
Msg #6124 Dated 23:05:48 06-13-91 6040 <--> 6193
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAST TRY
You gotta really hammer down with the tamborine to REALLY appreciate
the cover you get for a noisy load. I worth the price of the book.
Msg #6125 Dated 23:05:53 06-13-91 6044 <--> 6126
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Tht is the approach that Slydini always used. A workshop with 8-10 at
the table, each trying the moves, etc. and getting one on one from el
Msg #6126 Dated 23:05:59 06-13-91 6045 <--> 6127
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I think my session online time is less, but have been coming on about
5-6 times a day.... arrggghhh. I don't wanna seem totaly stupid, but
what does "concatanation" mean? Seriously.
Msg #6127 Dated 23:06:06 06-13-91 6047 <--> 6128
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Hell if I know. I am computer illiterate, remember!
Msg #6128 Dated 23:06:11 06-13-91 6051 <--> 6129
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Ahlaska, Ahlaska, Ahlaska! (I don't use quote marks often)
Msg #6129 Dated 23:06:16 06-13-91 6059 <--> 6131
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I have a nice Room. Rom is a small room, right? Duh. Sure blame it on
Now, Al Flosso, there was a great guy. He used too many Alka Seltzers
though, but could do the best bottom deal of any magi I ever saw. I
know he used to mark the bread rolls in this old NY restaurant to see
if they ever used them over (next day he would check).
Flosso did the best Parlour version of the mechanical rising cards I
ever saw too... Used a martin deck. He gave me the glass he used when
he retired. Dummy here sold the deck for a thousand bucks a few years
the one Vernon used.
His hat load was the best. He would pick the load up (alarm clock set
Wait a minute... that doesn't go there..." Take the silk out leaving
the load... hah what a pro....
Msg #6130 Dated 23:06:32 06-13-91 6070 <--> 6134
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Shop or ship?
Msg #6131 Dated 23:06:36 06-13-91 6078 <--> 6132
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Typos can be fun. I just caught a Killer in Time mag... where one is
rarely seen! My old fav was "For sale 1000 Woo lovercoats!"
Msg #6132 Dated 23:06:42 06-13-91 6078 <--> 6135
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Another type was a classified in back of a magazine advertising for "
"A Poofreader"
Msg #6133 Dated 23:06:48 06-13-91 6082 <--> 6167
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
Yep, forgot that one. I spent some time with Gus (Lewis was the one t
hat did the store demo of Topit) and Gus did 17 consecutive impromptu
seen or heard of before. Great stuff.
Wally Davenport played one of the great practical jokes on Jay
Marshall. We went into the shop and Wally said to Jay, "I finally
found the Punch and Judy Poster you have been looking for." Wally
brought it out and it was priceless... a real, real killer. Jay and I
the airport. Wally said, "Jay, let me wrap it for you for the trip."
So Wally (a very very British gentleman type) goes into back room and
comes out in a few minutes with a small, flat (8x10-ish) package with
string around it. Jay looks like he just died and went pale... He
looks at me like to say, "Jesus... no, god, no... he folded it!"
Being polite, Jay thanks Wally and is shattered. We start out the
door to the airport... and Wally says, "OH, JAY, DON'T FORGET THE
POSTER...." and brings out a tube.... HAH... THE FOLDED PACK WAS AN
EMPTY... HE GOT JAY SO BAD YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE!!! Had me too.
Msg #6134 Dated 23:07:06 06-13-91 6085 <--> 6137
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
A comic other night said (doing airplane routine) "The pilot said, if
FLOATATION DEVICE... If they're THAT clever can't the Plane BECOME a
Boat!" (I like that one). Another guys said, "I guess while the plane
is sinking to the bottom of the lake, the seat cushions will float to
Msg #6135 Dated 23:07:13 06-13-91 6088 <--> 6136
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yes. The other night I got $100 for a lecture of which only two in
attendance understood. The rest were riding free I guess. So it was
50 hides per brain in gear.
Msg #6136 Dated 23:07:19 06-13-91 6095 <--> 6142
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
What the hell are all you guys talking about?
Msg #6137 Dated 23:07:24 06-13-91 6096 <--> 6140
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
At the Castle they would have to wear ties.
Do you know the story of how all the greats, S&R, David, etc. use Duc
ks wearing ties? Well they all got their inspiration to use ducks
from Bill Smith's great routine. And one night he was doing Gaylord
(duck's name) at the Castle. And visiting I said, "How do they let a
duck in here without a tie?" Bill liked that and next night had a tie
Msg #6138 Dated 23:07:39 06-13-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: MESSAGES
I just noticed that there are some lines screwed up in many of my
messages. I can't afford to go back and fix. It seems to have to do
with the Line Wrap using IMP! Will fiddle next time. Or blow trumpet?
Msg #6140 Dated 23:28:26 06-13-91 6106 <--> 6141
From: RICHARD HART
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Let me know when, Pete. I, for one, want to be in the front row!
Msg #6141 Dated 23:30:50 06-13-91 6032 <--> 6143
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Kim Basinger.
Msg #6142 Dated 23:37:48 06-13-91 6073 <--> 6145
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Agreed! For a long time I thought Leo was a GROUP! He is amazing. Have
you seen his video put out by Private Music? Leo live and at home.
Too bad he isn't into magic, he'd be great.
David (the other one)
Msg #6143 Dated 23:57:16 06-13-91 6101 <--> 6144
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Good idea, Wayne. We'll do it right after the "100 Good Reasons Thumb
Tips Should Be Outlawed" thread finishes.
Msg #6144 Dated 23:59:19 06-13-91 6119 <--> 6146
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Gee... Somehow, I thought you'd want a Zombie Ball.
Msg #6145 Dated 23:58:45 06-13-91 -> 6152
From: MAX MAVEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Most magic lectures today are crap, and mainly an excuse to flog notes
and merchandise. Perhaps one reason things have evolved to this is the
very fact of the magic lecture field being based on such a mediocre pay
scale. As the old saying goes, "You get what you pay for."
As for the Newmann Scrapbook, its price is small compared to the fees
for "real world" lectures you mention. Also, a book is not an event
(although its publication may be).
Msg #6146 Dated 0:00:56 06-14-91 6141 <--> 6175
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Good choice!
Msg #6147 Dated 0:01:23 06-14-91 6102 <--> 6194
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Thanks, Wayne, but I've tried those. They have no positive effect on
the reduction of the line noise.
Besides, these guys all work for GTE - they've heard 'em before.
Msg #6148 Dated 0:01:26 06-14-91 -> 6239
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENTALISM SHOWS
I'm not disputing your perception, I was just curious. I hope some day
you'll get to see my show. (A ten-minute set seen ten years ago doesn't
count.)
Msg #6149 Dated 0:02:39 06-14-91 6103 <--> 6150
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Nope, switched to similies.
Msg #6150 Dated 0:02:49 06-14-91 -> 6168
From: MAX MAVEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Aha! Perhaps you've hit upon the difference between amateurs and
professionals: amateurs take breaks to go to the beach.
Msg #6151 Dated 0:03:56 06-14-91 6117 <--> 6225
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
Gotcha! Ran a downward translation on it and my esteem for you went
up!
Msg #6152 Dated 0:03:45 06-14-91 6048 <--> 6153
From: MAX MAVEN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I have no idea how many people I am responsible for bringing into
magic, although when I show up in hell it will probably be listed as
part of my file.
At any rate, if my work inspires someone to explore magic, fine -- but
I'll take no responsibility for the subsequent scenario you describe.
Msg #6153 Dated 0:05:37 06-14-91 6086 <--> 6154
From: MAX MAVEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Perhaps it's time to get a new dictionary.
Msg #6154 Dated 0:05:37 06-14-91 6113 <--> 6155
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yeah, fits my categories perfectly - I like Bush, don't care for Quail.
Msg #6155 Dated 0:06:15 06-14-91 6115 <--> 6156
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Now THAT is a good question!
Msg #6156 Dated 0:08:51 06-14-91 6129 <--> 6158
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I wish I'd gotten to see him.
Msg #6157 Dated 0:06:13 06-14-91 -> 6169
From: MAX MAVEN
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Regarding the recent discussions concerning private clubs and such, the
following may be of interest: some years ago a female magician sued the
Magic Circle in England, on the basis that her being denied membership
prevented her ability to network, and also harmed her professional
image as lay people in England often presume membership in the Circle
to be a sign of quality.
The then Secretary of the club, John Salisse, had to go on the witness
stand and proclaim that the Magic Circle is an organization of amateurs
and hobbyists. So, she lost the case -- but there was at least a nice
opportunity to see the Circle embarrassed for its position.
Msg #6158 Dated 0:09:34 06-14-91 6132 <--> 6159
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I once prepared a 400+ page proposal to the Federal Government. It was
PERFECT - except for the section where we mentioned that we had a
highly trained editorial staff who would eliminate "speeling" errors.
Msg #6159 Dated 0:10:56 06-14-91 6135 <--> 6160
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I haven't upgraded my concept in a few years, so you may want to
account for inflation. But I always figure one really good idea is
worth $100 so if the lecture cost $300 I feel OK if I walk out with
three good ideas, not so OK if I only get two. When I put my stuff
together, I also use that as part of my pricing formula.
Msg #6160 Dated 0:12:41 06-14-91 6136 <--> 6161
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Er, Pete - in this case it isn't what we are talking about - it is what
we are NOT talking about!
Msg #6161 Dated 0:13:56 06-14-91 6145 <--> 6162
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yes. I am amazed at the prices in the magic lecture field. I guess it
has something to do with supply and demand.
I am aware that a book is not an event and I hope you will forgive me
- it was the first recent example of an "expensive" something-or-other
that I could think of.
There is one factor we haven't mentioned here - "real world" lectures
are _presumably_ designed to return more than they cost. I would
imagine that if I could get five "top" magicians in a room for a day
and when they walked out their incomes would double, I could probably
charge a rather handsome fee.
Msg #6162 Dated 0:19:21 06-14-91 6153 <--> 6164
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Really enjoyed your message (# 6152) to Burton. It probably IS time
for me to get a new dictionary - mine is copyright 1976. I think I
heard something about a very contemporary one being released just
today, but I think I'll wait for the CD-ROM version.
Msg #6163 Dated 0:21:04 06-14-91 6041 <--> 6170
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Jerry,
Pardon my intrusion, but have you tried turning Auto Baud OFF?
It worked for me. Also, if you have a MNP modem and are NOT calling
the new number, turn off Reliable Mode at the Modem. Mine uses AT\N0
but I have seen different strings used. It seems the MNP handshake
interferes with Auto Baud selection.
Hope this helps,
.
David (the other one)
Msg #6164 Dated 0:21:17 06-14-91 6044 <--> 6172
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: SESSIONS
Jerry,
Michael Ammar does the same thing now. He gave a 2 hour private
workshop before his standard lecture here with great success.
David (the other one)
Msg #6165 Dated 0:21:26 06-14-91 6116 <--> 6166
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FRUSTRATION
Pete,
Remember to try Expand Blank lines OFF and Pace character 58
This is found in the Protocol Settings of ALT-S settings menu.
Select ASCII Protocol and you'll find where to change them.
David (the other one)(soon to be PROCOMM consultant to the STARS!)
Msg #6166 Dated 0:21:22 06-14-91 6116 <--> 6252
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FRUSTRATION
Hmmmm.... The IMP! settings should allow you to send a plain message.
It's the plain message settings that won't let you use IMP!
Msg #6167 Dated 0:24:24 06-14-91 6133 <--> 6213
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
Pete -
Some of your messages have had the ends of the lines missing.
Sometimes whole thoughts are gone. I think that you do NOT have the
version of IMP! that has "wordwrap." So you have to MANUALLY end each
line with a press of the ENTER key. DO NOT let stuff run onto the next
line. Jerry has "fixed" this in a newer version.
Msg #6168 Dated 0:28:17 06-14-91 6150 <--> 6191
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Max -
Was that an - or an ? In all honesty, I would seriously HOPE that
professionals take breaks to go to the beach or the mountains, to see
the stars, to read non-magical books, to ponder the tides of the
Universe... You know what I mean.
Msg #6169 Dated 0:30:22 06-14-91 6157 <--> 6246
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Hmmmm..... Are there any transgendered professional magicians in
England? That might make an interesting case!
Msg #6170 Dated 0:31:28 06-14-91 6163 <--> 6202
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Jerry was attempting to connect to a Hayes 2400. I was nearby at the
time and saw what was crossing the screen. It was a consistently
repeated set of four characters streaming FROM his end. I have NO IDEA
what it was - I've NEVER seen it before.
Msg #6171 Dated 0:33:17 06-14-91 -> 6254
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: TECHNICAL MAGIC
Just happened on the following story by Guy L. Steele, Jr.:
"Some years ago I was snooping around in the cabinets that housed
the MIT AI lab's PDP-10, and I noticed a little switch glued to
the frame of one cabinet. It was obviously a homebrew job added
by one of the lab's hardware hackers (no one knows who).
"You don't touch an unknown switch on a computer without knowing
what it does, because you might CRASH it. The switch was labeled
in a most unhelpful way. It had two positions, and scrawled in
pencil on the metal switch body were the words `magic' and `more
magic.' The switch was in the `more magic' position.
"I called another hacker over to look at it. He had never seen
the switch before, either. Closer examination revealed that
switch only had one wire running to it! The other end of the wire
did disappear into the maze of wires inside the computer, but it's
a basic fact of electricity that a switch can't do anything unless
there are two wires connected to it. This switch had a wire
connected on one side and no wire on its other side.
"It was clear that this switch was someone's idea of a silly joke.
Convinced by our reasoning that the switch was inoperative, we
flipped it. The computer instantly crashed!
"Imagine our utter astonishment. We wrote it off as coinci-
dence, but nevertheless restored the switch to the `more magic'
position before reviving the computer.
"A year later, I told this story to yet another hacker - David
Moon, as I recall. He clearly doubted my sanity, or suspected me
of a supernatural belief in the power of this switch, or perhaps
thought I was fooling him with a BOGUS SAGA. To prove it to him,
I showed him the very switch, still glued to the cabinet frame
with only one wire connected to it. It was still in the `more
magic' position. We scrutinized the switch and its lone
connection and found that the other end of the wire, though
connected to the computer wiring, was connected to a ground pin.
That clearly made the switch doubly useless: not only was it
electrically nonoperative, but it was connected to a place that
couldn't affect anything anyway. So we flipped the switch.
"The computer promptly crashed.
"This time we ran for Richard Greenblatt, a long-time MIT hacker
who was close at hand. He had never noticed the switch before,
either. He inspected it, concluded it was useless, got some
diagonal cutters and DIKED IT OUT. We then revived the computer,
and it has run fine ever since.
"We still don't know how the switch crashed the machine. There is
a theory that some circuit near the ground pin was MARGINAL, and
flipping the switch changed the electrical capacitance enough to
upset the circuit as millionth-of-a-second pulses went through
it. But we'll never know for sure. All we can really say is that
the switch was magic.
"I still have that switch in my basement. Maybe I 'm silly, but I
usually keep it set on `more magic.'"
Guy also quotes Arthur C. Clarke as saying that "any sufficiently
advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Msg #6172 Dated 1:07:48 06-14-91 6088 <--> 6173
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Many times.
Msg #6173 Dated 1:08:29 06-14-91 6089 <--> 6177
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Who would referee?
Msg #6174 Dated 1:11:50 06-14-91 6090 <--> 6209
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
Please do.
Msg #6175 Dated 1:13:09 06-14-91 6134 <--> 6176
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Another incomplete message, Biro. Read the directions again.
Msg #6176 Dated 1:14:08 06-14-91 6141 <--> 6196
From: T A WATERS
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Only, from what I hear, if you don't have to direct her.
Msg #6177 Dated 1:35:46 06-14-91 -> 6178
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Well put.
I too started magic when I was quite young (9 to be exact) and
had always enjoyed it, got back into it about 12 years ago and have
become more involved ever since. I have probably put a lot of magic
dealers and writers kids through school with all the stuff I have
bought (I'm the type that when I see something that I like I have to
have it, only to play with and end-up selling at the swap meet.
.
Your analogy of the computer field is quite apt. As you know I'm also
in the field (egad 31 yrs now), and know exactly what you are saying
about the 'amateurs' passing for pros. They get a few jobs, but like
magic word-of-mouth and reputation follow you around. Some make it
while others go back into plumbing or whatever. The PC has been a
major instrument in allowing all kinds of otherwise unqualified
people to enter the field. The general resurgence in magic has
provided opportunities for less qualified magicians to find work as
well. Most however are content to say within the confines of their
brotherhood and just have fun with magic - what's wrong with that ?
Msg #6178 Dated 1:36:10 06-14-91 -> 6179
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Did you read the article "How are we perceived?" in the May 1991
Linking Ring ?
.
I think it has some relavence to this discussion. I wish to quote
a few excerpts that will help strengthen my final point.
.
"Most people never get a chance to see and/or meet their favorite
celebrity. But meeting a magician seems to moralize the unreachables"
.
"Its estimated that there are only about 30,000 magicians in the worl
d with only 10 per cent of those actually being full time pros. We ar
e part of an elite group. You can casually pass on this information
to a lay person which will give you more credibility in his/her eyes.
You ARE special by being part of this group that includes
Copperfield, and yes, you will probably get around to seeing him and/
or meeting him someday, perhaps at the next magic convention where
there are others who share secrets with you, like this one. Here you
can perform a quick pocket trick that establishes you as a magician
and someone worthy of respect thus raising your quotient on the
'Celebrity Complex' scale.
When you are introduced as a magician, notice how the converstai
on changes, how eyes seem to light up, and how interest is peaked.
People want to know more about you, how you got started, where you ha
ve performed, what kind of tricks you do. They are making a judgement
(consciously or sub-consciously), about whether they can consider
you as a 'celebrity'. You can prove you are by what we like to call
'blowing them away' with a great effect".
.
"WE as magicians, give ZEST to the lives of friends, families, busine
ss associates, and everyone else who knows us as magicians".
.
Does this mean there are 27,000 amateurs magicians who by the fact
they belong to a magic organization are automatically elevated into
celebrity status ? This article seems to imply that is the case.
.
Couple that with the article entitled "Our Obligation" (which espouse
d the idea that if you are a TRUE magician you should ALWAYS be
prepared to perform, whenever asked) and you may see a trend that is
being pushed by at least one of the major magic organizations.
Msg #6179 Dated 1:36:46 06-14-91 -> 6180
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Duffy's Tavern, where the elite come to meet and eat.
Msg #6180 Dated 1:36:53 06-14-91 -> 6181
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
If you need to go back and correct something, it helps to go into
insert mode (hit the Ins key). To turn it off hit Ins a second time.
This version of the editor is a bit crude and hopefully the next
version will be more useful.
Msg #6181 Dated 1:37:02 06-14-91 -> 6182
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Any comments on how the 'Magilaymen' (who I assume are members of
IBM) will respond to their new found celebrity status, as pointed
out in the May 1991 Linking Ring article "How are we Perceived ?".
Msg #6182 Dated 1:37:11 06-14-91 -> 6183
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Sorry, Pete, its against the law.
Msg #6183 Dated 1:37:20 06-14-91 -> 6184
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Does that mean you can come to the awards banquet with a chest full
of medals ?
Msg #6184 Dated 1:37:29 06-14-91 -> 6185
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
You beat me to it. I answered the original a few msgs back. I didn't
know you were that old. I had forgotten the Archie bit.
Msg #6185 Dated 1:37:40 06-14-91 -> 6186
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
If I recall there never was a Mr. Duffy, but Mrs. Duffy was.
Msg #6186 Dated 1:37:46 06-14-91 -> 6187
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Ok, pete. Use your up arrow to go to a previous line. Then overtype
to correct or if you need more room hit Ins to push the line to right
unfortunately, right now anything that goes off the screen on the
right falls in the bit bucket.
Msg #6187 Dated 1:37:55 06-14-91 -> 6188
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Jez Pete, I've been reading this thread for the last 2 hours and
the fart thing is the most intelligent thing in it. What a grat line.
Msg #6188 Dated 1:38:01 06-14-91 6039 <--> 6197
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
This has got to be the longest most rambling thread ever posted. This
is an append let's see who it goes to.
Msg #6189 Dated 1:38:07 06-14-91 -> 6265
From: JERRY BURTON
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: WEEKEND
If you are going to be there on the 22nd will prob stop by. Balboa
Ski Club is having a Bicycle Bar Hop on the peninsula starting at
9 a.m., lunch on the island, and end up somewhere in a jacuzzi.
.
Watch for a bunch of drunks on bikes with squirt guns, it gets wild.
Msg #6190 Dated 1:38:14 06-14-91 -> 6205
From: JERRY BURTON
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MESSAGES
Gosh, I must be perverse, I was enjoying it. Ah yes - string suits,
yuuuummmm !
Msg #6191 Dated 1:38:19 06-14-91 6022 <--> 6228
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Why don't you guys join Marvin and I at the real beach ?
Msg #6192 Dated 1:38:23 06-14-91 6006 <--> 6266
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HELP
If you trying to upload a standard text file into the file area
rather than as a message, make sure to change your character pacing
from 58 (:) to something like a carriage return (13).
Msg #6193 Dated 1:38:28 06-14-91 6007 <--> 6221
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Pete, try using a period to separate paragraphs. Blank lines can be
hazardous to your health. I can read the headlines now, "Man goes
Berserk after melting teapot and throwing computer through window,
and then running down street, crying "That damned IMP is after me"".
Msg #6194 Dated 1:38:33 06-14-91 6015 <--> 6195
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
You know Wayne, it could have come from the rare alignment of planets
this weekend. Some people are affected by the moon, maybe you can't
stand all the energy coming in. Good too see Affable back.
Msg #6195 Dated 1:38:38 06-14-91 6030 <--> 6240
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
It is a new moon that will be within 4 degrees of Venus, Mars, and
Jupiter Saturday night. Monday night the 3 planets will be within
1.8 degrees of each, something that hasn't happened since 1797 and
won't happen again until 2217.
Msg #6196 Dated 1:38:43 06-14-91 6032 <--> 6201
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Gota have an extra thumb. Used correctly you can do an incredible
number of things and they all appear different.
Msg #6197 Dated 2:42:57 06-14-91 6126 <--> 6198
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
It means adding one string to another. E.g. if string1 is "Hi, Pete"
and string2 is " How are you", the concatenated string3 would be
"Hi, Pete How are you".
.
In the case of files it means adding one file to the end of another o
ne. Function 5 will add the input file to the end of the output file,
with the new output file being extended by the size of the input file
.
I force myself to only come on once a day and spend several hours
going through all the msgs, jeez you guys have really been loading up
the board. I wonder if David has any disk space left ?
Msg #6198 Dated 2:43:10 06-14-91 6127 <--> 6199
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Darn, here is a case I would like to go back to 6047 and see what
? you are illiterate about, but since I'm in the mode of only reviewi
ng the current msgs I just downloaded I can't. Oh well, maybe I'll
go back later - sorry.
Msg #6199 Dated 2:43:18 06-14-91 6132 <--> 6200
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Is that for a magic book ?
Msg #6200 Dated 2:43:22 06-14-91 6188 <--> 6206
From: JERRY BURTON
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Aha - it went from me to Pete as it should have. Sorry David to have
thought the BBS had a bug. If the last msg in a thread is addressed
to you and you use A for append, you will end up with a msg to yourse
lf. Oh well that's the way the BBS crumbles.
Msg #6201 Dated 2:43:29 06-14-91 6143 <--> 6207
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Now wait just a minute bud, you are getting too close to home now,
watch it ! You've never seen my version of hippity-hop sponge rabbits
using a thumb tip. I do it every year for the 'Home for Visually
Impaired' they love it.
Msg #6202 Dated 2:43:35 06-14-91 6069 <--> 6203
From: JERRY BURTON
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Yo I'm here - have been busy pushing systems out the door, so I can
come play for a week. Did you get the Procomm care package I sent ?
.
Put the Pyramid on top of the barn Monday night and let it soak up
the mass of planetary energy that will be drifting in.
Msg #6203 Dated 2:43:42 06-14-91 6163 <--> 6204
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: YOIKS....
I have a plain old 2-bit internal 2400 baud modem card with none
of the fancy MNP stuff. It was really weird. I tried changing the
baud rate on-line to see if I could make sense out of the stuff that
was coming in - no luck. It finally went away. No problem today at al
l.
Msg #6204 Dated 2:43:49 06-14-91 6170 <--> 6229
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Must have been a gremlin mating with my IMP ??
Msg #6205 Dated 2:43:53 06-14-91 6109 <--> 6273
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGES
Gee that would hurt, a flattened zombie ball has sharp edges.
Msg #6206 Dated 6:55:23 06-14-91 6072 <--> 6208
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Well, weren't Mahatma and Conjuror's Monthly around before S.A.M.
started, or do I have my dates wrong. I just checked out a pretty
reliable source - your Encyclopedia of M&M - and Mahatma predates
the S.A.M. by about 4 - 5 years. I was wrong on Conjurors though.
Seems like most major cities had a magic shop. Roterberg in Chicago
was one I wish I could of visited. Maybe the catalog illustrations
make them look bigger than life. I have some of Roterberg's palming
coins and tokens in my magical oddity collection. I love the "sprite"
on their coins and cover of the catalogs. How's the Castle library
coming along? Guess you're ready to get it going again.
Msg #6207 Dated 6:55:36 06-14-91 6085 <--> 6210
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
That's funny and I like a good laugh early in the am. The appearing
boat. Thats good!
Msg #6208 Dated 6:55:44 06-14-91 6088 <--> 6214
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Didn't Dai Vernon do some special seminars in the 1930s. Seems like I
read this somewheres.
Msg #6209 Dated 6:55:54 06-14-91 6090 <--> 6217
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
I contend that 1938 was a better year since, if as you say 1939 might
perhaps be the last good one, in 38 at least I get to look 4ward to
1939.
Msg #6210 Dated 6:56:00 06-14-91 6105 <--> 6212
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I got a metal die box from Homer Hulse when I was round 9 or 10. A
neat little red and black affair. No sliding gimmiks or other stuff,
just pure bluff. I really miss Homer. He died when I was 11 or so
and was the proprietor of Atlanta Magic. Having this fine old gent
take an interest in a kid meant all the diff.......
Msg #6211 Dated 6:56:10 06-14-91 6121 <--> 6277
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: P. GOLDSTEIN BIBLIOGRAPHY
3 hours out of 90 dollar batteries. BLekt! I have a Tandy 100 you can
HAVE if you want to take a disposable computer along.
Msg #6212 Dated 6:56:15 06-14-91 6130 <--> 6219
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Now that you mention it, a ship probably wouldn't be a bad idea. I
like T.A. Waters Appearing Boat Trick!!
Msg #6213 Dated 6:56:24 06-14-91 6133 <--> 6253
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
I can see Jay Marshall's face now when Wally Davenport brings out the
small package. That's tooo good. I hope I see Jay again and get to
ask him about it. Fuunny stuff, Biro-san.
Msg #6214 Dated 6:56:30 06-14-91 6074 <--> 6215
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I definately don't recommend that anyone enter show business. It
takes too big a toll and success is very hard to come by. Talent
alone isn't enuff. Plus if they don't "make it" I don't want to be
blamed for leading someone down the primrose path. It's hard enuff
without all that.
Msg #6215 Dated 6:56:46 06-14-91 6077 <--> 6216
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
What is the Newmann book? Is this Geo. Newmann?
Msg #6216 Dated 6:56:59 06-14-91 6079 <--> 6222
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
In any artistic endeavor there are "hangers on". Why not call them
HANGERS.
Msg #6217 Dated 6:57:15 06-14-91 6090 <--> 6305
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
I for one would like the number of "1939". I've got "tons" of memorab
ilia around from those years. Maybe my "ship" has finally come in.
Msg #6219 Dated 6:57:29 06-14-91 6106 <--> 6231
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Is Dolly Harbin still living? What would an appropriate royalty be
for a convoluted use of a mineature Zig Zag?
Msg #6220 Dated 6:57:38 06-14-91 6120 <--> 6291
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
BMI royalties come in 9 months after the fact. I just found out I've
been broke for almost a year and didn't know it.
Msg #6221 Dated 6:57:44 06-14-91 6124 <--> 6233
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Last year I watched Ray Mertz work a table in Buffalo, NY for a bunch
of lay people (girls). Ray was working on a glass topped table and
when he loaded his giant brass nut the table top shattered. Was a
riot actually, though not for Ray at that moment. Was a Chinese
restaurant gig and he really drew a crowd about then.
Msg #6222 Dated 6:57:52 06-14-91 6129 <--> 6223
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
This causes me to wonder if Flosso ever found out if they were using
old rolls ???
Msg #6223 Dated 6:58:03 06-14-91 6142 <--> 6224
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Is Leo on Private Music now? They've really been coming on the past
coupla years.
Msg #6224 Dated 6:58:14 06-14-91 6145 <--> 6226
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I, for one, would like to see the magic lecture elevated into an art
form. I think it could be.
Msg #6225 Dated 6:58:20 06-14-91 6151 <--> 6232
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
How could one's esteem for Pete Biro get any higher. Ah Hah!
Msg #6226 Dated 6:58:24 06-14-91 6152 <--> 6227
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
If hell is full of magicians, then the devil will be in for a major
shock.
Msg #6227 Dated 6:58:32 06-14-91 6162 <--> 6238
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
You're not gonna believe me, but the dictionary I use is (c) 1938.
Msg #6228 Dated 6:58:37 06-14-91 6168 <--> 6241
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
The last time I stopped to smell the roses, I got stung on the nose
by a bee.
Msg #6229 Dated 6:58:42 06-14-91 6202 <--> 6272
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Yes, package arrived and tried. I'm still using "old" procomm 2.3.
It's not quite 1938, but close. Pyramid been causing all kinds of
problems in shop. Old Xacto blades getting sharp, table saw crashed,
router bit through my finger, stuff like that. Will be glad to get it
out of here.
Msg #6231 Dated 7:41:45 06-14-91 6105 <--> 6234
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I agree, Pete...I admitted to having my old set of Hippity Hop
Rabbits...now, I'll also admit to having a jumbo sucker die box that is
lotsa fun to use....'cause it never fails to nail 'em!
'W.
Msg #6232 Dated 7:49:18 06-14-91 6110 <--> 6242
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
Charge it to my account. If you get away with it, let me know...I've
got a lot of other things I'd like to pay for like that....after all,
I didn't even know I HAD an account!
'W.
Msg #6233 Dated 7:51:31 06-14-91 6111 <--> 6267
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
I'll just call Tamborine Man...(he delivers!)
'W.
Msg #6234 Dated 7:55:18 06-14-91 6140 <--> 6235
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
There is no front row.
Msg #6235 Dated 7:55:22 06-14-91 6141 <--> 6236
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Jamie Lee Curtis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Msg #6236 Dated 7:55:27 06-14-91 6143 <--> 6237
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Never use a thumb tip. Always looks like you are hitchiking.
Try sixth finger.
Msg #6237 Dated 7:55:33 06-14-91 6144 <--> 6255
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I already have 34,593 that have been returned.
Msg #6238 Dated 7:55:37 06-14-91 6145 <--> 6243
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Well sed, Maven. Hate to tell you how many Crappy lectures we see.
Msg #6239 Dated 7:55:44 06-14-91 6148 <--> 6286
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MENTALISM SHOWS
I agree. A great example was Sheckie Greene, the Vegas comic.
He would do a spot on TV and nobody ever figured out what he was
doing or thought he was funny. But in a Vegas showroom, after he
got "going" he was as funny as anyone in history! Ask Jay Marshall
about the time he tipped the waiter $2 after giving us a great
seat... then saying, "Oh, I'm sorry gentlemen, this seat was
reserved!" and moved us to back row! har
Msg #6240 Dated 7:55:29 06-14-91 6195 <--> 6268
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
I'm busy Saturday night...guess I'll just catch it next time!
'W.
Msg #6241 Dated 7:55:53 06-14-91 6150 <--> 6287
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
When I tell a close up worker tht he has to do four shows a day
for three days the amateur says "Aw gee, that much work, boo hoo.!
The pro says, "How much time do you want?" I say 9.6 minutes and
they do 9.5 minutes. Oh, and the amateur says, "I have enough stuff
to do forty minutes!" ARgh?
Msg #6242 Dated 7:56:01 06-14-91 6151 <--> 6326
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
Eh Steam ALWAYS goes up.
Msg #6243 Dated 7:56:06 06-14-91 6152 <--> 6244
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Forget magic, how many people have you influenced to wear black?
Msg #6244 Dated 7:56:12 06-14-91 6154 <--> 6245
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Someone will re-write a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Msg #6245 Dated 7:56:17 06-14-91 6156 <--> 6247
From: PETE BIRO
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Darn, what was the question? I still can't figger out how to go
back even tho you told me seventeen times... argh.
Msg #6246 Dated 7:56:24 06-14-91 6157 <--> 6288
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I didn't know that bout the Circle and Salisse. I thought he was
mo liberal than that.
Msg #6247 Dated 7:56:29 06-14-91 6158 <--> 6248
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
So, they didn't like your Speel, eh. Punny, no? No.
Msg #6248 Dated 7:56:34 06-14-91 6159 <--> 6249
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I guess I am underpricing my labors. Only get $1500 a day.
Msg #6249 Dated 7:56:39 06-14-91 6160 <--> 6250
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I get it now. You are not talking about magic.
Msg #6250 Dated 7:56:45 06-14-91 6161 <--> 6251
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Which five magi?
Msg #6251 Dated 7:56:23 06-14-91 6123 <--> 6256
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
made ME laff....hehehe...
'W.
Msg #6252 Dated 7:56:51 06-14-91 6165 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: FRUSTRATION
Will turn blank lines off. Oh, to get back to my Tandy 100 and
300 baud. I could read at 300 baud.
Msg #6253 Dated 7:56:58 06-14-91 6167 <--> 6278
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
OK, how do I get the newer version? Word WARP that's for me.
Msg #6254 Dated 7:57:03 06-14-91 6171 <--> 6329
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TECHNICAL MAGIC
You won't believe this, but there is a switch on my desk. It is
plastic, has a fake keyhole in it. And I also have a "facia" from
a combination lock on a wallet. You bring it out, turn the combo
a few times then open your wallet.
This lets people know you are a person that has a Zombie Ball at home
Msg #6255 Dated 7:57:10 06-14-91 6175 <--> 6271
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I find (from several sources) that the version of IMP! I IS USING,
NEED A CARRIAGE RETURN AT TH END OF EACH LINE. Oh, well, all the
messages are memorized now by the masses anyway. Its on to bigger
and better things.
Msg #6256 Dated 7:57:18 06-14-91 6178 <--> 6257
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Wonder if you would get the same "celeb" adulation if you told
people you were a Juggler?
Msg #6257 Dated 7:57:25 06-14-91 6179 <--> 6258
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Thanks Jer, Duffy's it is for lunch, right?
Msg #6258 Dated 7:57:30 06-14-91 6180 <--> 6259
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Insert it is.
Msg #6259 Dated 7:57:35 06-14-91 6181 <--> 6260
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
To be honest with you, I get L.R. and missed reading it.
Didn't someone equally as famed as we, recently say, "If you want
to keep it a secret, put it in print"?
Msg #6260 Dated 7:57:44 06-14-91 6183 <--> 6261
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
No a wallet full of money!
Msg #6261 Dated 7:57:49 06-14-91 6184 <--> 6262
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Archie won't like you.
Msg #6262 Dated 7:57:54 06-14-91 6186 <--> 6263
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yeah, my bit bucket runeth over.
Msg #6263 Dated 7:57:59 06-14-91 6187 <--> 6264
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Seabrooke (in Enlgand, where he does many stag shows) opens his act
with the F joke. Anybody that evet goes to England MUST get in
touch with Terri Rogers (female vent) or Pat Page and ACCOMPANY them
to a Stag show. It is a genre only in England and the laffs are
beyond counting! I once had Seabrooke do his stag show late at
night at the Little Rock IBM convention. It was incredible.
Msg #6264 Dated 7:58:11 06-14-91 6188 <--> 6269
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I got your append. What if is so generic, I guess the generic
magicians will never see it.
Msg #6265 Dated 7:58:17 06-14-91 6189 <--> 6577
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WEEKEND
Are they amateur drunks on bikes with squirt guns or pros?
Msg #6266 Dated 7:58:23 06-14-91 6192 <--> 6322
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HELP
Rather than change params, I have two different partitions to my
120 meg drive and have the old procomm in another directory and
going to it makes it easy. Gracias anyway.
Msg #6267 Dated 7:58:29 06-14-91 6193 <--> 6283
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: LAST TRY
I have the teapot hanging on the wall as a reminder. But for now
am nuking the water.
Msg #6268 Dated 7:58:34 06-14-91 6195 <--> 6323
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Friend of mine is somewhere in Mexico photographing such for
National Geogaphic!
Msg #6269 Dated 7:58:39 06-14-91 6197 <--> 6270
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
No, but his byte bucket runeth over.
Msg #6270 Dated 7:58:46 06-14-91 6199 <--> 6274
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
6199 "Is that for a magic book ?" is a perfect example. You ask
that and I probably wrote it at 3 ayem and forget what the point is.
So now I don't know how (with IMP!) to go back and see what the
question was. When online I would enter and find out.
I think I know what you mean about appending all, but that has to
be a file soooooooo bigggggggg..... Maybe we need to make a rule
that you start the message with a very brief repeat of the question?
Msg #6271 Dated 7:58:56 06-14-91 6201 <--> 6282
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I once saw a guy do Hippity Hop thumb tips. He didn't know we
saw it tho.
Msg #6272 Dated 7:59:01 06-14-91 6202 <--> 6324
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: YOIKS....
I hope that's not what the golfers did up in Minnesota. I thought
people KNOW you don't go under a tree in lightning storms.
Boy, that was baaaaaad.
Msg #6273 Dated 7:59:07 06-14-91 6205 <--> 6579
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MESSAGES
Mutant Ninja Magicians love flattened Zombie balls.
Msg #6274 Dated 7:59:11 06-14-91 6206 <--> 6275
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
In the early days most Magic shops were Magic shops. Not jokes
stores and halloween costume, greeting card shops with some magic.
I still believe the magic store dealers don't belong at the big
conventions with booths... only Mfgr/Distr types. Let the magic
store guys come see what the Mfgr/Distr guys have to sell.
Msg #6275 Dated 7:58:44 06-14-91 6126 <--> 6276
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
It means linked together in a series.
'W.
Msg #6276 Dated 7:59:21 06-14-91 6208 <--> 6279
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I think they were what are called lectures, its just that they were
smaller crowds then, and Vernon kept going as long as they were
interested and awake. Which, at Vernon sessions THEY WERE.
Msg #6277 Dated 7:59:28 06-14-91 6211 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: P. GOLDSTEIN BIBLIOGRAPHY
I have a Tandy 100 and a 200 and the weight (I just put on scale)
of the 200 is exactly the same as the NEC and the AC adapter.
I can then transfer the files from the 200 to the big mamma here
with my Null modem adapter. If I can remember how! (I got the book)
Msg #6278 Dated 7:59:35 06-14-91 6213 <--> 6311
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
Jay will be at IBM, and he and I share a room at FISM. We will be
laffin' all the way.
Msg #6279 Dated 7:59:41 06-14-91 6214 <--> 6280
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
You got it. I started to... was doing a lot of comedy club work
in L.A. but didn't want to go thru all the butt kissin' stuff and
hanging out at the Comedy Store or Improv to "be discovered".
Funny thing, I "was" discovered at the Magic Castle and booked for
the Tonight Show with J. Carson -- but a screw up in MY schedule
(a high-paying photo job with a long-time client) caused me not to
be able to do Carson. At that time I figured I had made my choice
to stick with the photo biz and NOT PURSUE showbiz. So then I just
did Comedy Magic Club in Hermosa as the owner is such a cool guy,
and I got to work with Leno a lot.
Msg #6280 Dated 7:59:54 06-14-91 6215 <--> 6281
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Not Alfred E. Neuman?
Msg #6281 Dated 8:00:00 06-14-91 6216 <--> 6284
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
At least don't call them "ON".
Msg #6282 Dated 8:00:05 06-14-91 6219 <--> 6308
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Don't know if Mrs. Harbin is about. Maybe someone else might know.
Msg #6283 Dated 8:00:10 06-14-91 6221 <--> 6315
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAST TRY
A few years back I went to a restaurant owned by TV Magic Card boss
Marshall Brodien with Don Alan. A young Chitown magician was doing
tables and he must have thought Don would be impressed if he did
our table. The poor guy was doing Don's trick "the giant nut under
the hat" and the dummy did it for Don. Don went BERSERK nearly
killed the guy for STEALING his material. Of course Don was right,
but went a hair overboard. Although I think he made his point.
Msg #6284 Dated 8:00:20 06-14-91 6222 <--> 6285
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
It tasted like they were. Regarding the glass table you mentioned
that Mertz busted.
Jay Marshall and I were in Indianapolis at the home of the great
card man Harry Riser and his charming wife Margy (she sewed the
first Malini egg bags for Charlie Miller).
Anyway we were going to do some coin tricks for Harry. Margy was
out of the room making coffee, and Harry said, "Be careful with
this antique marble-top table. It's half a pair, the other one was
cracked badly one time when Goshman did a coin trick on it.
OK, you got it. Jay and I went into another room, got the cracked
table and switched them. When Margy came in I slammed some coins
down and Jay said, "OH SHIT, YOU JUST CRACKED THE TABLE..."
I'm sure you know THE REST OF THE STORY!
Msg #6285 Dated 8:04:47 06-14-91 6184 <--> 6292
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yeah, but I've got a portrait of me in the closet that looks like Hell!
'W.
Msg #6286 Dated 8:16:42 06-14-91 6239 <--> 6335
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENTALISM SHOWS
I'll tell you some great Shecky Greene stories...WHEN YOU COME DOWN
HERE!
'W.
Msg #6287 Dated 8:17:50 06-14-91 6149 <--> 6319
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Well, David...that wasn't a simile...but it was simile-like.
'Wayne.
Msg #6288 Dated 8:20:48 06-14-91 6157 <--> 6289
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Interesting. It might be worthwhile to enlist a number of U.S. magi to
join the Circle with the full intention of voting down its
gender-discriminatory membership policy.
'W.
Msg #6289 Dated 8:23:24 06-14-91 6246 <--> 6316
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I understand that John is very ill. Anyone know his condition?
'W.
Msg #6291 Dated 8:29:23 06-14-91 6220 <--> 6318
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
I just got a nice envelope from ASCAP...opened it...and found out it
was a bill for my membership dues!
'W.
Msg #6292 Dated 10:01:59 06-14-91 6173 <--> 6293
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
You think we need a referee? OK - how about someone from Outside Magic
(Gee, what a great name for a publication!) - maybe an artist? How
about "Michael?"
Msg #6293 Dated 10:06:59 06-14-91 6177 <--> 6294
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
You've got 2 more years of computing experience than I do, Jerry! And,
just like in magic - where there are people who only know store bought
tricks - there are people in computing who only the superficial aspects
of personal computers. Which is FINE. But someone has to know what to
do with MVS, IMS, and CICS.
Msg #6294 Dated 10:12:04 06-14-91 6188 <--> 6295
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT IF
That this thread is so long is a "tribute" to IMP! Jerry, you have GOT
to get that ENTER MESSAGE function working! Also, take a look at the
ER and EA subcommand UNTHREAD. That would also be useful. It starts
a new thread. It is on the same submenu with Save.
Msg #6295 Dated 10:15:45 06-14-91 6208 <--> 6296
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Dai probably did. I don't recall reading it.
Msg #6296 Dated 10:17:53 06-14-91 6226 <--> 6297
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yeah, but there is a SEPERATE Hell for the Hangers. Part of their
punishment is that they don't get to associate with the Serei. Of
course, the lack of Hangers could make the Serei's Hell look like
Heaven...
Msg #6297 Dated 10:19:38 06-14-91 6227 <--> 6298
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I believe you. It was only recently that I finally got around to
sending in my upgrade coupon for the 1976 one.
Msg #6298 Dated 10:21:29 06-14-91 6245 <--> 6299
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
There was no question, but the answer was Al Flosso.
Msg #6299 Dated 10:22:03 06-14-91 6247 <--> 6301
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
The whole "speeling" thing was very embarrasing. It really was the
only typo in the entire document and it was not placed there
intentionally. We did get the grant, but for three years we had to
listen to jibes about that typo.
Msg #6301 Dated 10:24:03 06-14-91 6248 <--> 6302
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
The majority of custom seminar leaders seldom walk out with much more
than that, if they even average that. There are more costs to the biz
than most people suspect.
Msg #6302 Dated 10:26:03 06-14-91 6249 <--> 6304
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Pretty much right - at least we were not talking about parts of magic.
Don't worry - you are cool and haven't missed anything.
Msg #6304 Dated 10:27:04 06-14-91 6250 <--> 6312
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
It is not in my job description to answer "Which five magi!" But, if
you must know, they were hypothetical magi living in a metaphorical
universe.
Msg #6305 Dated 10:33:55 06-14-91 6174 <--> 6306
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
OK. "1939" is in area code 818. The phone number is 368-4248. It is
mostly an Amiga board. LOTS of Amiga programs - on a 320 Meg. Hard
Drive. There are several conversation sections running from technical
to very strange.
Msg #6306 Dated 10:37:12 06-14-91 6209 <--> 6307
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
My personal favorites were around 1867 to 1899. If time travel magic
were available, I'd probably be there now.
Msg #6307 Dated 10:38:07 06-14-91 6217 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TOO PERFECT"
OK, I posted it in a message to T A. 818-368-4248.
Msg #6308 Dated 10:39:09 06-14-91 6196 <--> 6309
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Guess I would not be OPPOSED to the idea of an extra thumb. Has anyone
ever done any work with a toe tip? Or is that only for folks who
smuggle microfilm thru body searches?
Msg #6309 Dated 10:41:53 06-14-91 6201 <--> 6310
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Actually, Jerry, I LIKE thumb tips. I just wish there was a law that
said they could not be sold to minors or to Penn & Teller.
Msg #6310 Dated 10:44:03 06-14-91 6236 <--> 6314
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Actually, I do like a finger tip better than a thumb tip. But finger
tips are something I don't want to tip on here - their being known
outside of a small group could cut into my sixth finger income.
Msg #6311 Dated 10:45:23 06-14-91 6278 <--> 6328
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
Jay has such a grand attitude. That gag with the marble topped table
must of sent her up a wall. I used to have fun with the gag using a
piece of torn newspaper to simulate torn wallpaper, but I don't have
the guts to do it anymore.
Msg #6312 Dated 10:45:29 06-14-91 6279 <--> 6313
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
No doubt you'd of been successful at comedy if thatz what you'd
of chosen to do. However, 1500 a day beats 750 a week on the
starvation comedy club circuit.
Msg #6313 Dated 10:45:37 06-14-91 6280 <--> 6339
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
What?, him worry?
Msg #6314 Dated 10:45:42 06-14-91 6282 <--> 6345
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Seems like I asked you about Mrs. Harbin before. If you see any of
the guys from England at FISM and you think of it, maybe you could
inquire about what what would be proper.
Msg #6315 Dated 10:45:47 06-14-91 6283 <--> 6400
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
I had a guy steal some of my songs once. Fortunately (???) they
never became hits and he's now on the skids. What? Me worry?
Msg #6316 Dated 10:45:51 06-14-91 6288 <--> 6336
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Actually, not a bad idea re: the US ploy to change the Magic Circle,
don't think it would do much for US/Brit relations though.
Msg #6318 Dated 10:46:03 06-14-91 6291 <--> 6338
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
My last BMI check was for 26 cents. I started to keep it and frame
it, but decided to deposit it. Got some good news on songs yesterday
but the stuff won't pay for at least 15 months. I could be skinny
by then.
Msg #6319 Dated 10:47:09 06-14-91 6191 <--> 6320
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Would love to, but I have a show to do for the MS Society this weekend.
Thanks for the invite.
Msg #6320 Dated 10:48:09 06-14-91 6228 <--> 6321
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Life can be like that! I've concluded that getting stung once in a
while is just a part of the experience we call life. Don't let it keep
you from smelling the next rose.
Msg #6321 Dated 10:51:09 06-14-91 6287 <--> 6364
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Are you saying it was a reasonable facsimile?
Msg #6322 Dated 10:51:51 06-14-91 6192 <--> 6578
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HELP
Jerry - It may be a matter of choice, but if I were uploading a file to
the files area I would still use anything BUT an ASCII transfer. Since
the pacing character only effects ASCII transfers, there would be no
change required.
Msg #6323 Dated 10:55:28 06-14-91 6195 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: A LOVELY DAY...
Thank you, Jerry! I had a feeling you would be able to supply info
like that!
Msg #6324 Dated 10:58:02 06-14-91 6204 <--> 6351
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: YOIKS....
Must have been! Seriously - I was in a chat with another user at the
time and just froze and watched the screen. It was WEIRD. It did not
look like MNP codes (which we weren't sending at the time anyway), it
certainly didn't look like line noise, and it didn't look like speed
difference (which would have resembled line noise with a slightly
different "signature." It was a consistent set of four characters - I
remember the first two were *E - in one long stream and it was
definitely being received by MAGIC!, not sent by it.
Msg #6325 Dated 11:06:28 06-14-91 6024 <--> 6330
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TABLES
What was the best part? CAREFUL.
Msg #6326 Dated 11:16:04 06-14-91 6225 <--> 6327
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ?
I donno. I figured after he melted the teapot he must have esteemed
heat.
Msg #6327 Dated 11:18:06 06-14-91 6242 <--> 6332
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
Brace yourself, folks - it looks like we are in for a run of esteemed
puns.
Msg #6328 Dated 11:18:44 06-14-91 6253 <--> 6334
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
Wait 'til Jerry posts the one he's working on - it should have wordwarp
and the ability to start a new thread.
Msg #6329 Dated 11:19:45 06-14-91 6254 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TECHNICAL MAGIC
I have a portable key - it looks like one of the regular keys on a
keybaord, only it is red and has the word "PANIC" neatly printed on it.
You can stick it to the keyboard, the monitor, or the computer. Alas,
it is not installed on MAGIC!
Msg #6330 Dated 11:21:35 06-14-91 6325 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: TABLES
Actually, it was getting Nathan's new T-Shirt from your wife! Sure
wish you'd attached a rabbit button to it though - I'd like to have one
of those.
Msg #6332 Dated 11:35:59 06-14-91 6326 <--> 6333
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
YOU ARE CRUEL. *EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Msg #6333 Dated 11:36:24 06-14-91 6327 <--> 6353
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
LAST NIGHT I COOKED ESTEEMED VEGGIES.
Msg #6334 Dated 11:36:48 06-14-91 6328 <--> 6348
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
I CAN WAIT
Msg #6335 Dated 11:37:14 06-14-91 6286 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MENTALISM SHOWS
At least you know how to spell his name better than I!
Msg #6336 Dated 11:37:18 06-14-91 6288 <--> 6337
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I have a feeling that the largest membership comes from the USA.
Nearly every Magi-tourist that hits England goes there and they all
join up.
Msg #6337 Dated 11:37:24 06-14-91 6289 <--> 6380
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Do you mean Salisse? No, had not heard. Saw him last year at the
IBM and he was fine. Seabrooke is on a cruise started 7 June for
two weeks, then at the Magic Hotel starting 21 June 851-0800 until Ju
July 2. He says call at noon on 21st (everybody call him and drive
him nuts!)
Msg #6338 Dated 11:37:33 06-14-91 6291 <--> 6350
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
At least they use nice envelopes!
Msg #6339 Dated 11:37:37 06-14-91 6292 <--> 6340
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Is he the creator of the Castle Pig?
Msg #6340 Dated 11:37:42 06-14-91 6293 <--> 6341
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Being a computer expert (in some people's opinion) I can not speak
of what you say.
Msg #6341 Dated 11:37:48 06-14-91 6294 <--> 6342
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yeah, I think changing the thread title would be good.
Msg #6342 Dated 11:37:52 06-14-91 6297 <--> 6343
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Two magician pals, lets call them Wayne and Evan. Talk about the
afterlife. "Wonder if there is any magic in heaven?" "Boy, I hope
so, it would be boring without it..."
One day, later, Wayne suddenly dies, heart attack. His pal Evan is
so despondant he shrivels away and not a week later he too dies.
They meet in heavan. And it is HEAVEN. Boy, there are magic shows
every night... Close up sessions -- Great Lectures -- and even a
MAGIC!! So they sit there enjoying a sold out show. They just both
finished working to standing ovations.
"Isn't this great..." says one. "I guess so... but y'know, if it
wasn't for that damn OAT BRAN of yours we could have been here
years sooner!"
Msg #6343 Dated 11:38:06 06-14-91 6299 <--> 6344
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Jibes are better than nothing.
Msg #6344 Dated 11:38:11 06-14-91 6304 <--> 6349
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I've been there!
Msg #6345 Dated 11:38:15 06-14-91 6308 <--> 6346
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
The first use of a toe tip, was OKITO, his was not only wooden, but
it was finished both sides. He used to "dirty" the nail of his
fingertips. He created a great effect with a stooge in the audience.
He vanished a silk, had them "left" a fingertip in hand with a
small piece of matching silk sticking out. He would go to the aud
and ask someone to POKE in the last little bit. The spectator would
poke and steal out the finger tip.
If Copperfield reads this, give it a try!
If you beleive the first line, I am a real key bender.
Msg #6346 Dated 11:38:27 06-14-91 6309 <--> 6347
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
The best magi take a trick that has just been exposed and fool
people with it.
There is (not kidding) a great bit with a NOSE tip. I won't tell
you about it or who invented it, but it is hilarious. And even done
for laymen (with a subtle attitude change) does not give anything
away.
Msg #6347 Dated 11:38:36 06-14-91 6310 <--> 6359
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
In 1949, (not a bad year tab) I was walking down the street, wearing
my sixth finger. I used to wear gaffs and keep things palmed on trips
and riding the bus, to practice under all conditions.
Anyway, a kid on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET yelled out, "Hey, Pete
what's wrong with your hand?"
Msg #6348 Dated 11:38:44 06-14-91 6311 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC IN MEXICO OR U.K.?
That is a great gag. It don't take guts. Just the thinking of doing
it requires a memory! Which I don't got. Maybe a 3x5 cue card in
a pocket for all practical and impromptu bits would be good to carry
around.
Msg #6349 Dated 11:38:51 06-14-91 6312 <--> 6355
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Now if only I could get more than one day's work a month!
Msg #6350 Dated 11:38:56 06-14-91 6318 <--> 6441
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
You shudda wrote a bigger song. Just think, Bill Sherman (magic
castle mem) gets paid every time they play "It's a Small World" at
Disneyland/World! Arrgghhhh.
Hah... only moments ago the Producer called and they LOVE MY SCRIPT
for the TV special and are going to NY to meet with the execs to
set a budget and taping sked! Voila, as they say!!!! Whooopeee,
(as I say)... woof
Msg #6351 Dated 11:39:06 06-14-91 6324 <--> 6576
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: YOIKS....
It might have been me, either screaming, or having fainted and
fallen onto my keyboard *EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!
Msg #6353 Dated 12:39:14 06-14-91 6332 <--> 6354
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
You have no idea how cruel, Pete. But my wife is even crueler! She
once turned down a guy's request for vacation time to go on his
honeymoon! And the guy had cruise tickets! NO JOKE.
Msg #6354 Dated 12:40:55 06-14-91 6333 <--> 6372
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
Esparagus, no doubt!
Msg #6355 Dated 12:42:58 06-14-91 6339 <--> 6356
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yes, he is the "creator" of the Castle Pig. Really wish I could get
the "real story" on the Pig, but I get stoney, cold responses when I
call. There is some sort of political problem involved.
Msg #6356 Dated 12:44:52 06-14-91 6340 <--> 6357
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I think Jerry can speak of what I say. Or at least he can relate to
it.
Msg #6357 Dated 12:50:12 06-14-91 6342 <--> 6358
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Terrific! I love it! I've also always liked the one about the
CONSULTANT who dies at the age of 38. Get's to the gate and complains
that he died too young. Gatekeeper (your choice of gatekeepers) looks
at printout and says, "Odd, this says you aren't due 'til you're 88.
Let me check with accounting." Calls accounting, tell's 'em printout
says 88, guy is only 38, then says "Uh huh, Uh huh" a couple of times
and hangs up. Turns to guy and says, "They found the problem. You're
a consultant, right?"
"Right," sez guy.
"Well," sex Gatekeeper, "They mistakenly used your billing records."
Msg #6358 Dated 12:54:00 06-14-91 6343 <--> 6369
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Yep! We ate real well on that contract for a couple of years. Do you
remember the closing scene to "Raiders of the Lost Ark"? The part
where they put the crate with the Ark in it in a government warehouse
and the camera pans back and back and back and you know it is as lost
as it was originally? Well, the project is in the crate just to the
left of the Ark! Look for it next time!
Msg #6359 Dated 12:58:32 06-14-91 6345 <--> 6360
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Gee! I'd thought the first person to use a toe tip was, oh,
what's-his-name (Ach, but fame is fleeting!) with the little guitar -
Oh, Yeah! Tiny Tim!
Msg #6360 Dated 13:00:07 06-14-91 6346 <--> 6361
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
I've got one of those fancy hot-shot custom moulded thumb tips that the
guy from Paris was making at DM '90. Even has my THUMBPRINT on it! It
is perfect, except that he was doing the coloring under flourescent
lights and it is a shade too dark. I keep thinking of ways to re-color
it, but I'm afraid I'd only mess it up worse. Took about an HOUR to
make and was a very uncomfortable procedure as the casting material got
quite warm/hot.
Msg #6361 Dated 13:03:38 06-14-91 6347 <--> 6375
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Guess you weren't handling it quite perfectly! I've got to get a small
(Very Small) tip for Nathan. Would be a real mindblower for the
pre-school set he hangs around with.
Msg #6363 Dated 13:49:54 06-14-91 -> 6365
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: MENU
Just got back from lunch at the Castle and see that you made the menu.
But they called you ...."the impressario of MAGIC"....
Is that good or is that bad?
Msg #6364 Dated 13:52:13 06-14-91 6063 <--> 6366
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
That's what my wife told me, when in the middle of the night I tapped
her on the shoulder and said "Honey, how about ......." and she said
exactually what you said ..Go fly a kite.
Msg #6365 Dated 14:02:09 06-14-91 6363 <--> 6367
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MENU
I made the menu? I wasn't there! Please tell me what you are
referring to! Also, if you have a copy, let me know!
Msg #6366 Dated 14:02:53 06-14-91 6364 <--> 6382
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
I keep a kite in the trunk of my car for those occasions when a client
or prospect tells me the same thing. I also have a small one in a case
that looks like an oversized pocket knife that I carry in my attache
case.
Msg #6367 Dated 14:36:19 06-14-91 6365 <--> 6371
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MENU
It's in the mail. Milt goofed and last week left out the luncheon in
honor of Randall.
Msg #6369 Dated 15:26:51 06-14-91 6355 <--> 6370
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I'm starting to like it.
Msg #6370 Dated 15:26:55 06-14-91 6358 <--> 6378
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Crate number 678,895,223 I believe.
Msg #6371 Dated 15:26:59 06-14-91 6363 <--> 6374
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MENU
The forgot the !, which exemplifies his impressarioness.
Msg #6372 Dated 15:27:04 06-14-91 6353 <--> 6394
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
Just finished working about five hours in the garage unpacking some
of the old magic stuff boxes. Found my set of vanishing birdcages,
a few linking rings (dozens) but not the set I am looking for. I
still have about 12 more crates to open. I discovered ONE BAD THING.
Don't ever store balloons in the same place with silks. I have a
beutiful Dragon Blendo that I have to slowly peel off a bunch of
pink balloon. Also found my set of Die Boxes (four different styles)
and my original Electronic reed switch, tube of motor oil activated
Jumbo Rising cards and the Ken Brooke Nemo cars. Also three differ-
ent size DOVE PANS (UNUSED) -- one Flat Zombie and one Good Finn Jon
version. A great old Rat Bottle (great gag in the old days) and a
rat infested (makes it look better) gaffed straight jacket. I hung
it on a nail in the garage so if anybody comes in they will see it.
Found the Prototype set of Linking Coat hangers! Har.
Found a crate full of Vent Dummies I forgot I had. Geeeez. Also the
juggling club sets a circus guy left me. And a Berg Nest of Boxes,
Owen Silk Cabby, Owen silk box - I forget name, but ... ah JAP Box.
Some ruined feather flowers. Yes, I used them as a gag to "dust" a
prop off. Hundreds of gaffed decks. A huge bag of solid silver old
quarters and half dollars... got to check the value. Must be a
pound or two... har... A great Pint Jug, like the English Pubs use,
made of all glass, one piece THAT YOU CAN DRINK IT ALL DOWN IN ONE
GULP. Great item. Also a Davenport Vent glass. You appear to dring
er, drink, while the dummy talks. It is all glass and really is
invisible. Two, count' em two sets of Hippity Hop rabbitts. The k
Stock Abbott set and a Giant Set I made and used a jillion times.
Two Matell magic set tables. Collapsing stool. Different. It is a
wooden stool the spectator sits on, you ask him to get up and bring
it over here and he lifts it and all the legs fall off.
A beautiful set of large multiplying candles (right and left) made
by top metalworker in London for Unique. Run Rabbit Run. And at last
my 12-foot Silk American Flag on a production Flagstaff. Still look-
ing for the two smaller flagstaffs and the Harbin Nest of Boxes. I
found the Harbin Chair suspension gaff. For sale $2500.00.
Zig Zag is in here somewhere. Actually I have a guy that wants to
buy the Chair Suspension. Actual Harbin chairs from Hyde Park in
England. Rare even without the trick.
Still looking for the Orb Eternal Linking Ring set made in the
shape of stars by Merv Taylor. Want to get that routing going.
Found the motor for an old Abbott Snake Basket in one box, the
basket in another. A Grant Talking Skulll. Was in box, dead for 3
years and STILL TALKING! A Jack LeDair rising card box. Arghhh,
and I am only briefly mentioning the few things I can recall, and
you know how bad my recall is. Well, break is over, back to opening
some more cartons. Also found (in the yard a nice Apricot Tree and
they taste great). Got to go... bye for now...
Msg #6373 Dated 15:33:52 06-14-91 -> 6392
From: MARVIN STERN
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: SAT.
Fri afternoon---called the library, but you had already left.
Are you around now? Call me re Dodgers Sat PM.
Msg #6374 Dated 15:37:16 06-14-91 6371 <--> 6377
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENU
Isn't David entitled to more than one ! ?
Msg #6375 Dated 15:54:29 06-14-91 6064 <--> 6383
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Does Max qualify as a "magical item"? If so, I'll choose Melinda!
Msg #6376 Dated 15:58:58 06-14-91 6108 <--> 6405
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TOPPIT
If it were possible to have a topit put in that inexpensively I'd have
'em in everything- jogging suits, bathrobes...
Msg #6377 Dated 16:22:50 06-14-91 6367 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MENU
THANKS! I was dissapointed when the luncheon wasn't mentioned last
week. Really appreciate you finding it and sending it.
Msg #6378 Dated 16:24:15 06-14-91 6369 <--> 6379
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Fine. But it does indicate that there is a certain element of bad
taste in your aesthetic soul. Why don't you buy it?
Msg #6379 Dated 16:25:29 06-14-91 6370 <--> 6389
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Not sure it had that low a number! It really was a great product for
a while - it almost got used.
Msg #6380 Dated 16:32:11 06-14-91 6316 <--> 6385
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
We'll repair US/Brit relations by installing Maggie Thatcher as the
first female member of the Magic Circle!
(Actually, I DO think it's a good idea...anyone else want to give it a
go?)
'W.
Msg #6382 Dated 16:36:16 06-14-91 6287 <--> 6384
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Well...if you'd like, I'll send you a reasonable Fax-Simile and you can
see for yourself!
'W.
Msg #6383 Dated 16:37:06 06-14-91 6375 <--> 6393
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Now THAT is brilliant! Truly magical company! But remember - you have
to take her horse too.
Msg #6384 Dated 16:38:50 06-14-91 6382 <--> 6387
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
You just replied to yourself, Wayne!
Msg #6385 Dated 16:39:37 06-14-91 6380 <--> 6388
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Hey! If you can really get us in, without the rule about having to
travel to the club within two years to do the audition, I'll take you
up on it. A killer idea - this remote voting bit.
Msg #6387 Dated 16:49:38 06-14-91 6384 <--> 6396
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
The reply was meant for you, David....but....
well, I'm talkin' to myself again...
...whad'ya expect from a Double Gemini???!!!
'Wayne.
&
'Wayne.
Msg #6388 Dated 16:52:00 06-14-91 6385 <--> 6397
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
How am I supposed to get around that rule???
'W.
Msg #6389 Dated 16:55:40 06-14-91 6342 <--> 6401
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
That's why my healthy breakfast consists of Sugar Pops and Irish
Coffee!
'W.
Msg #6392 Dated 17:33:17 06-14-91 6373 <--> 6439
From: MIKE KING
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: SAT.
Just got home and to a phone. It's after 5p.m. Will try the store,
hope I get you if not. When you check this give me a shout.
Msg #6393 Dated 17:51:25 06-14-91 6176 <--> 6402
From: EVAN KATZ
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
!
Msg #6394 Dated 17:56:19 06-14-91 6354 <--> 6398
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
Section suggestion: one for puns.
Msg #6396 Dated 17:59:36 06-14-91 6387 <--> 6411
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
It's a great way to leave notes to yourself. Any day now I expect to
see a Biro to Biro that reads "Take out the garbage." And we'll all
think he is saying something profound.
Msg #6397 Dated 18:00:52 06-14-91 6388 <--> 6399
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Same as the rest of us - Say Pete Biro sent you!
Msg #6398 Dated 18:02:05 06-14-91 6394 <--> 6410
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ?
We don't have the diskspace for a pun section - not with this group!
Msg #6399 Dated 18:02:24 06-14-91 6157 <--> 6412
From: EVAN KATZ
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Interesting. I'll bet she would've won in this country. Or at least
I hope.
Msg #6400 Dated 18:02:49 06-14-91 6283 <--> 6413
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
An interesting detail would be whether or not Don Alan had published
the routine at that point.
Msg #6401 Dated 18:03:22 06-14-91 6274 <--> 6404
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
You're right!
Msg #6402 Dated 18:03:58 06-14-91 6235 <--> 6403
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Make you a deal. I bring Kim, you bring Jamie Lee, and we let them
fight it out.
s
Msg #6403 Dated 18:04:35 06-14-91 6402 <--> 6414
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
Winner gets to leave the island!
Msg #6404 Dated 18:05:35 06-14-91 6243 <--> 6406
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Not as many as Richard Hell
sg #6405 Dated 18:45:57 06-14-91 6376 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TOPPIT
Skin topits have been in use since the advent of fat rolls.
Msg #6406 Dated 18:46:02 06-14-91 6378 <--> 6408
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I'll buy it if the price is right. What was the question?
Msg #6408 Dated 18:46:13 06-14-91 6389 <--> 6420
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I know you use sweet and low in your Irish Coffee. I like Venetian
coffee myself.
Msg #6410 Dated 18:46:33 06-14-91 6394 <--> 6471
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ?
Worst one I ever heard. "I get ten cents a pun. Or, Once a Pun a
Dime!" ARRRRRRRRRRRgggggggggggggHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Msg #6411 Dated 18:46:39 06-14-91 6396 <--> 6419
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
I just brought in the garbage. Neighbors have a better class of
garbage than I do.
Heh, I just tried on the Straigh Jacket I unpacked (that is one
garment you close the blinds when you put it on) and found there ws
something in one of the sleeves. Shook it out. Yep, you guessed it.
A dead RAT. I also bit into an Apricot I just harvested and found
HALF a worm. AAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhspit, spit spit.
True stuff. Double spit double argh...
Msg #6412 Dated 18:46:51 06-14-91 6397 <--> 6443
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
How do you do that?
Msg #6413 Dated 18:46:56 06-14-91 6400 <--> 6425
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Don NEVER PUBLISHED THAT ONE!
Msg #6414 Dated 18:47:00 06-14-91 6402 <--> 6427
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
And the loser gets me (still a good deal)!
Msg #6415 Dated 18:49:26 06-14-91 -> 6445
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: I'M BACK
Tabster, Sorry about being so quiet lately but as David has mentioned
I've moved into a new house. The address on the Booklist still works as
that is a business address. I've been reminded of two magical
principles that apply when moving your household 10 Your stuff
magically expands and multiplies as you pack it. 2)After being packed
the important stuff vanishes. It will take me at least all weekend to
get caught up on the messages here. I've downloaded almost 500,000
bytes of messages! Boy you guys sure can talk/type. As I read through
all this I sure sure hope somebody said something important. 'Course
they always do. I look forward to catching up with y'all.
Msg #6419 Dated 19:19:32 06-14-91 6396 <--> 6430
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
No mystery to me...I've seen how he puts in the large load.
'W.
Msg #6420 Dated 19:21:42 06-14-91 6408 <--> 6431
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I usually put so much "Irish" in my coffee, I barely have room for the
coffee...certainly no room for Sweet'n'Low!
'W.
Msg #6425 Dated 19:37:52 06-14-91 6413 <--> 6440
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Got it.
Msg #6427 Dated 19:38:10 06-14-91 6414 <--> 6459
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
We must make sure we give them identical weapons.
Msg #6430 Dated 20:00:14 06-14-91 6419 <--> 6464
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Knock it off.
Msg #6431 Dated 20:00:26 06-14-91 6420 <--> 6442
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Irish is good stuff. As is PIMMS. Ever try a Pimms Cup? Found out about
it at the upstairs Castle Bar. Burp.
Msg #6439 Dated 20:29:04 06-14-91 6392 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: SAT.
Hi Mike, sorry to jump in on your and marvin's thread, but I'm on IMP
and don't have a way (currently) to start a new one. Just wanted to
check on how the illusion building is going and to see if you needed
any help? Hope ya'll are doing ok (actually bettern OK) and to say
Hey!!
Msg #6440 Dated 20:29:11 06-14-91 6400 <--> 6477
From: TABBY CRABB
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: LAST TRY
That's a good point, Evan. I get the idea, though, that Alan hadn't
published it at that time.
Msg #6441 Dated 20:29:17 06-14-91 6350 <--> 6478
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
That's great news about the tv special. Congratulations are getting
close to being in order. I know they'll continue to love it. We just
signed a song from our catalog to a co. who puts out midnight tv
records. Their last compilation sold over a mil. Letz see in about
two years I'll get paid about a penny or so an album. I'm due a run
of good luck, so there!!
Msg #6442 Dated 20:29:25 06-14-91 6357 <--> 6447
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Bass player dies and goes to heaven and finds out it's all he dreamed
of. A great gig in the house band near the pearly gates, free drinks
every night. Only two sets with long breaks. Only problem is that
God's girlfriend is the singer with the band and she's tone deaf.
Msg #6443 Dated 20:29:32 06-14-91 6380 <--> 6457
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Don't we have to go over to Jolly Ole to join up with the Magic
Circle guys or can it be done long distance?
Msg #6445 Dated 20:39:42 06-14-91 6415 <--> 6465
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: I'M BACK
Hey Bertmaster, good to have you back. I moved six years ago and
still haven't unpacked yet. In fact, I'm still living out of the
suitcase I took out to Calif last time I saw you guys. In fact, it's
still sitting downstairs in the hall on my great grandma's honeymoon
trunk. In fact, oh forget it......
Msg #6447 Dated 20:39:56 06-14-91 6420 <--> 6448
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Try Meyer's Rum, Cream and sugar and get fat like the tabman. On
second thought....better not!!
Msg #6448 Dated 21:03:34 06-14-91 6206 <--> 6449
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
As I said -- there were a few magazines only, not of very large
circulation, and the magic shops did not encourage laymen to enter
them; they were suppliers to professionals for the most part.
Construction and painting and such continues; next up -- knocking a
hole in the wall of the Palace area.
Msg #6449 Dated 21:06:38 06-14-91 6431 <--> 6450
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Ever have Powers Irish? (The number one selling Irish Whiskey in all
of Ireland!)
'W.
Msg #6450 Dated 21:06:20 06-14-91 6215 <--> 6451
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
C. A. George Newmann if you wanta be picky. It is stuff from his
collection of mental manuscripts during the first half of this century
-- a lot of stuff, and much of it very good indeed.
Msg #6451 Dated 21:07:35 06-14-91 6447 <--> 6452
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
too late, Tab.
'W.
Msg #6452 Dated 21:07:48 06-14-91 6216 <--> 6462
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Or we could use the currently popular "wannabee"...
Msg #6457 Dated 21:15:53 06-14-91 6443 <--> 6460
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Gotta cck this out....Max probably knows.
'W.
Msg #6459 Dated 21:18:40 06-14-91 6212 <--> 6509
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ISLAND MAGIC
But the more I think about it the more I prefer the Appearing Sheena
Easton...
Msg #6460 Dated 23:58:10 06-14-91 6412 <--> 6461
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Er, How do I do what? Say that Pete Biro sent us to join Magic Circle?
Easy! I just phone 'em up on the tele and say, "Pete Biro said it was
OK." Or were you asking how I did something else?
Msg #6461 Dated 23:59:18 06-14-91 6443 <--> 6479
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
It can be done "long distance," but supposedly "outsiders" are
probationary members who must show up for their exam within two years.
And I don't think they get to vote. At least that is the published
info.
Msg #6462 Dated 0:01:25 06-15-91 6406 <--> 6463
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT IF
The question was, why don't YOU buy the "Super Pig" if you like it so
much. Supposedly, it was only loaned to the Castle by the artist, even
before the Board voted unanimously to dump it. Therefore, one presumes
that Michael would be willing to part with it if the price were right.
Msg #6463 Dated 0:03:40 06-15-91 6442 <--> 6485
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
That's cute, Tabman! OK - my killer that I do at seminars... Nah, I'll
tell it to you when I see you.
Msg #6464 Dated 0:09:15 06-15-91 6411 <--> 6495
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
Eeeerrrrgggghhhh! Yuch, yuch, double yuch. Once had the worm bit
happen with a candy bar. Never ate that brand again. Hmmmm..... Seems
to me you have a new bit with the rat though - a straight jacket even
a rat couldn't escape from.
Msg #6465 Dated 0:12:02 06-15-91 6415 <--> 6487
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: I'M BACK
Glad to have you back among the living, Burt! And glad you found the
computer! BUT your message ends in an EOF (End of File) character.
Those are messy when people try to read mass downloads (RC's) and when
I go to file the messages away. Could you maybe try to figure out
where they are coming from and KILL THEM? Thanks.
Msg #6466 Dated 0:08:23 06-15-91 -> 6496
From: DOUGLAS LARSON
To: ALL
Re: TAHOE
Vacation time is coming. Plan to spend a week in Texas, home of the
Armadillo BBq and then a week in Tahoe. As Texas will probably be a
magic void I hope to catch a good fix when we get to Tahoe.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what to see during the week of June
24 to 29? I know Max put up some things quite a while back but I
didn't keep the list. Leave us a few ideas so we don't miss the best
show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks
PS. My wife has threatened to spend the entire time at the tables if I
don't come up with some good shows to take her to. (She really likes
to watch Magic!)
Msg #6471 Dated 0:41:43 06-15-91 6372 <--> 6480
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ?
Serious about this: Try throwing the Dragon Blendo silk in the FREEZER
for a while and the balloons should come off easier.
The rest of the list... well, what can I say... the stuff you found
makes me curl up in a foetal position and drool.
Msg #6477 Dated 1:02:35 06-15-91 6440 <-
From: EVAN KATZ
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAST TRY
Biro hipped me to this.
T'anks!
Msg #6478 Dated 1:03:21 06-15-91 6441 <--> 6499
From: EVAN KATZ
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
I for one would love to hear details about Pete's special. Wouldn'y
you?
Msg #6479 Dated 1:05:37 06-15-91 6461 <--> 6481
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
From the sounds of it, I'm surprised an exam is involved at all. What
kind, I'm curious...
Msg #6480 Dated 1:06:45 06-15-91 6398 <--> 6482
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
Think I figuered out the circumstance by which I occasionally miss a
mdssg addressed to me, as this just happened with #6398. Okay, ready?
That message was sent, I think, when I was on-line Fri. afternoon, bu
I DID NOT check messages before I logged off, so I missed it. My next
"r;*" did not play the message to me... It's only when I, at the end of
this session, rescanned for messages, it showed me #6398 remaining, and
I read it with an individual "r" command.
I have a suspicion you know it works this way. Just checking... Oops,
a very large (read: fat) cat wants attention...
By the way -- because of a glorious accident of birth, I get to name my
cat "Fred Katz."
Msg #6481 Dated 1:23:05 06-15-91 6479 <--> 6486
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
The stuff they sent me doesn't come to hand at the moment. Will have
to wait for one of the archeologists who is excavating my midden to
find it. Meanwhile, you can write to them at: Mr. Christopher Pratt,
Hon. Secy., Magic Circle, 19 the Grove, Brookmans Park, Herts, England
(sorry, don't have the zip code).
Hopefully, Max or someone else familiar with the procedure will clue us
in. Apparently, the BEST way is to become very famous and to get
invited.
Msg #6482 Dated 1:27:58 06-15-91 6480 <--> 6497
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ?
Yes, what you describe CAN happen. And there is another way too - if
you are reading a thread and you log off without reading all the
available messages, your personal pointer will be set to the highest
one you've read - passing some messages.
Fortunately, there are some GOOD points to how the system works too.
For example, an R;* issued at the end of everything else you've done in
the same session will still take you back to the point at which you
logged on (although the message counter you see is updated in "real
time," your personal pointer is only updated at logoff).
Also - in addition to the generic message counter that you can review
by typing the pound sign (#) and pressing the ENTER key, there is a
"mail addressed to you that you haven't read" list that you can get at
when you are at the Main Menu - to see that list you type an
exclaimation point (!) and press the ENTER key.
There are also two more obscure, undocumented and perhaps less useful
functions:
!! - This command is similar to the ! command, but checks only for
mail addressed to the user and ignores the `message has been
read' flag.
!!! - This command is similar to the ! command, but checks only for
mail addressed to `ALL' and ignores the `high message read'
pointer.
Sure wish I knew why so few people make use of these last two
functions.
Msg #6484 Dated 7:18:30 06-15-91 6439 <--> 6515
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SAT.
YO BRO.... i am trying to compile a list of the 10 most hilarious
stage acts (worldwide). So far I have:
Otto Wesseley
Topper Martyn
George Carl
Ballantine
Jorgen Samson
xx
ALL are eligible to add to the list. Tanks
Msg #6485 Dated 7:18:43 06-15-91 6442 <--> 6488
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Race driver dies, goes to heave. Finds great auto race organization
up there. Finally gets a ride with top team. Doing great. One day
he is finally running near the front. Keeps gaining, runnin' 2nd.
Pulls up alongside the leader... looks over and sees it is AJ FOYT.
Pulls into the pits in tears. Crew says, "What's wrong, you were
doing good?" "I caught the leader, looked over and it was AJ. Sob,
Sob, tears, etc... I didn't know AJ was dead!"
Crewman says, "that wasn't AJ, it was GOD... he just thinks he's
AJ!"
Msg #6486 Dated 7:18:57 06-15-91 6443 <--> 6493
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I will look see in the Magic Circular (If I can find one) there
might be a "Join" coupon.
Msg #6487 Dated 7:19:03 06-15-91 6445 <--> 6512
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: I'M BACK
Shoot, I still have'nt packed and I moved twice...Yargghhh
Msg #6488 Dated 7:19:08 06-15-91 6448 <--> 6489
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
To pass drinks thru?
Msg #6489 Dated 7:19:14 06-15-91 6449 <--> 6490
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
So that's where you get your money! (I also just found out John
Calvert -- who is working for me at IBM Baltimore) is part of the
Whisky Co. of the same name... related to Lord Calvert to.
No wonder, eh?
Msg #6490 Dated 7:19:22 06-15-91 6452 <--> 6494
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHAT IF
Nah "WON'TABEE" might fit better....
Msg #6493 Dated 7:19:42 06-15-91 6460 <--> 6500
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
What better reccomendation than from a member of the "Inner Circle,
WITH gold star!" Har.
Msg #6494 Dated 7:19:48 06-15-91 6462 <--> 6504
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHAT IF
I guess its like some restaurants with paintings on the wall. They
usually are for sale. Lets make an offer. I can trade a slightly
used Teapot! Looks fine just sitting there!
Msg #6495 Dated 7:19:56 06-15-91 6464 <--> 6522
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOPEFULLY...
I didn't realize the magical implications of my trained rats. Drat.
Msg #6496 Dated 7:20:01 06-15-91 6466 <--> 6513
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUGLAS LARSON (X)
Re: TAHOE
Tahoe is so small (casinos all walking distance) you can find out
who's there in a minute looking in the local guides. There are
some Texans on board here, and you can alwasy look in the phone
book and call Zaney Blaney (after all he says he is a goodwill
amasador!) He is in Houston.
Msg #6497 Dated 7:20:10 06-15-91 6471 <--> 6501
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ?
I got the balloon stuff off by rolling it, like rubber cement.
No harm to the blendo...nice big dragon one. Anybody wanna make
an offer. I'll pay the postage!
Msg #6499 Dated 7:20:24 06-15-91 6478 <--> 6517
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: TEAPOT MELTDOWN
I have sworn to secrecy to the Network as there is talk HBO has a
similar idea. Promise to let MAGIC! in onit foist.
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