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Msg #20000 Dated 11:36:14 09-21-91 19965 <--> 20001
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHRIS STARR
Re: LENO
I used to work regularly at the Comedy and Magic Club in Hermosa
Beach... which IS Leno's favorite place to work and try out new
stuff. I opened for him dozens of times and being a car guy, as he
is... we had much in common and used to hang out in the dressing
room and talk cars NOT SHOW BIZ.
When I was working at the Grand Prix in Long Beach I used to tell
the bosses "You got to get Jay Leno in the Celebrity race" they did
not know who he was!!!!!!!! Finally they said, OK. And he did a
great bit on the Tonight Show about it and then during the event
the press went crazy over him and he got more publicity for the
event than any movie star, etc. had ever done before. They invited
him back a second time (which almost never happens).
He had a great time doing it. He has a great car and motorcycle
collection and has moved it into a new building in Burbank.
Additionally, same method, I got to Know Letterman. He goes to
a lot of the Indy Car races now. I got him a ride with Phil Hill
around the track once and David went bananas. But he did not want
to drive in the Celbrity race (I think his eyesight is not so good).
The main thing about Leno is that HE IS STILL THE SAME AS HE
WAS BEFORE HITTING THE BIG TIME.
Leno still tests his Tonight show stuff at Hermosa, usually on
Sunday or Monday nights. Go see the show if you live in So. Calif.
Msg #20001 Dated 11:36:38 09-21-91 19971 <--> 20018
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LENO
You are already rich, but never a clown. A clown Prince maybe?
Msg #20002 Dated 11:36:42 09-21-91 19973 <--> 20009
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
Sheets told me of the improved handling at Balto during comedy klub.
Mebbe Rudy has it? Altho it may not have been sold, just being done
by Bob himself. Becky Blaney does a version.
.
I love the item and want to learn it.
.
Also the Pavel Travelling Knot is killer... however the original
Paul Curry version (first seen by Doug Henning) blew me away.
.
But you need two assistants holding the rope with giant reels up
their sleeves!
.
Siegfried is doing a version you will see on Oct. 10 -- that I got
to see again. It fooled the crap outa me... I have been told it
was developed by Harary.
.
However... the Pavel one is the most practical yet, ONE MAN.
.
However... the Biro method is cool too. Will put in print in book.
I did it 5 feet away from Johnny Thompson and fooled the wee wee
out of him.
.
It is done with a rope about six feet long and you don't need to
tie any end to a chair or nothing. And using my BLUFF idea you
toss it into audience.
.
They way I nailed Tomsoni was I finished and threw the rope to him
--but threw it so HE WOULD MISS IT.... it fell the the floor, he
did not bother to pick it up.... just stood there stunned... thinkin
that I COULD toss it for examination.
.
HAH... THAT IS THE REAL FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Msg #20003 Dated 11:37:15 09-21-91 19974 <--> 20013
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PENETRATION
GARBO was the name of the DeCourcy version. It might have been the
name of the canary he used. Not sure.
.
John Gaughan would also know. I don't know who got the prop. Ken
Brooke had it (I shoud have bought it and the MARTIN BUTTERFLY
PRODUCTION that Ken had for sale but was too dumb to realize the
future potential) and showed it to me but I didn't recall the
modus.
.
It -- and the vanishing Birdcage -- were the highlights of DeCourcy
act. Do you have a pen pal in the U.K. that would know?
.
If you want let me know and maybe cn get the information from Pat
page (I owe him a letter anyway).
Msg #20004 Dated 11:37:31 09-21-91 19982 <--> 20021
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TAOM CONVENTION
It wasn't Korem, but Bill Nagler (he was very active in magic for
awhile and published a couple of books) was on DONAHUE the other
day... and is now a PSYCHIATRIST.
Was funny seeing him on the hot seat in a heated argument on TV.
Msg #20006 Dated 11:53:48 09-21-91 19963 <--> 20042
From: T A WATERS
To: CHRIS STARR
Re: BAD VIBES
All very interesting, but why did you send it to ME?
Msg #20007 Dated 11:57:09 09-21-91 19994 <--> 20008
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
I have formulated what I call "Mentalism for the '90's" -- dialog like
so: "OK, now -- think of Sun -- GOOD Sun -- or Moon -- BAD Moon..."
Msg #20008 Dated 11:58:44 09-21-91 19997 <--> 20032
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Actually, I'd have to disagree a bit. Think of all the illusions
involving mutilation, almost always of women -- though it is worth
noting that when Selbit originally did the sawing it was with a man.
The slate thing is Peter Warlock's and is called BOOK OF THE MIND.
Msg #20009 Dated 12:00:09 09-21-91 19977 <--> 20010
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
In the immortal words of Fred Keating, "Magic goes Kiwanis."
Msg #20010 Dated 12:01:14 09-21-91 20002 <--> 20019
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
The double-knot thing was indeed developed by Harary, who is at the
moment extremely unhappy about it.
Msg #20013 Dated 12:04:36 09-21-91 19896 <--> 20020
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PENETRATION
Don't know if this has been said and I missed it -- but Garbo in turn
was based on the classic VANITY FAIR illusion where a woman in front of
a screened mirror vanished; same general principle.
Msg #20015 Dated 13:02:11 09-21-91 19986 <--> 20046
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Go to a Bone Pone show and see what the teens are doing first hand.
Will fly you to one just as soon as the big deal goes down. They left
yesterday on the "Bone America Tour." New pub co is called "American
Bone Music".
Msg #20016 Dated 13:02:17 09-21-91 19988 <--> 20029
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Two cars in every pot and a chicken in every garage.
Msg #20017 Dated 13:02:21 09-21-91 19990 <--> 20048
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
That's good about the grater. The Amazing Birontine...
Msg #20018 Dated 13:02:25 09-21-91 20001 <--> 20049
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LENO
I like being a Clown Prince. If rich is friends, fun, and family then
I am a zillionairre.
Msg #20019 Dated 13:02:30 09-21-91 20002 <--> 20022
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
What a great BLUFF tossing the rope where he missed it. Good idea
throwing it to somebody who can't bend over. Yeah, the sliding knot
that DH did on TV just left me with my mouth hanging open. That and
his version of Go Bump in the Nicht made me a fan forever. Don't know
if Rudy has new, improved version as he bought it from Al's Magic
Shop a while back. Would like to see the new ver as the old one is
a killer. I thought Becky did it a little too fast for the penetratio
n to sink in. Rudy did it nice and slow and I swear you can see the
rope actually coming through the midsection. I was floored and when
I found out the method I took off my cap and stood there silent for
a moment in reverence to the SHEETMAN. I thought of an "improvement"
and wonder if this is what Bob came up with using gimmiks on both
pieces instead of just the main one.
Msg #20020 Dated 13:02:43 09-21-91 20003 <--> 20024
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PENETRATION
Yes, please when you write Pat Page ask him about the GARBO version
as I really want to know the origins of this effect. I'm working on
a couple of ideas using it and simply don't know enuff about the
history and propriety of the effect.
Msg #20021 Dated 13:02:49 09-21-91 20004 <--> 20051
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TAOM CONVENTION
Bill Nagler is a PSYCHIATRIST. That reminds me, my sister called.
She's a PSYCHOLOGIST and was looking for some magic to do to warm
up the kiddies as she works with troubled youth. One of her associate
s uses the LINKING RINGS. I asked her if her associate did them well.
She said, "they link and unlink and I still don't know how she does
it." I wonder if she says,"see they ring like a BELL?"
Msg #20022 Dated 13:02:58 09-21-91 20009 <--> 20044
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
I was gonna say KIWANIS instead of Moose Lodge, but I didn't know how
to spell it (kiwanis).
Msg #20024 Dated 13:03:10 09-21-91 20013 <--> 20053
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PENETRATION
VANITY FAIR. Thanks will check it out. Must be in one of these books
around here, if not maybe at the Castle Library.
Msg #20027 Dated 13:39:45 09-21-91 19704 <--> 20655
From: EVAN KATZ
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: LIMBAUGH
Groooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooan.
Msg #20029 Dated 14:32:47 09-21-91 19969 <--> 20030
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Yep - it is a prototype - rather large and clumsy looking, but it has
a meg. or two of RAM and will record at voice quality. It will play
back at the push of a button. Remind me when you are here and I'll
show it to you.
Msg #20030 Dated 14:35:14 09-21-91 19988 <--> 20031
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Or maybe you could update it and have a potted quale? Heard a good
line recently - G-d is upset with Bush's policy toward Israel and his
advisors sugguest he talk to Bush. G-d balks and the advisor says, "It
wouldn't be the first time you talked to a bush!" Or something like
that.
Msg #20031 Dated 14:37:23 09-21-91 19989 <--> 20037
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VIDEOS
You don't have time? Yetch! ///\\\.
Msg #20032 Dated 14:38:41 09-21-91 19954 <--> 20033
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Yep - not a big surprise in a country where less that half the adults
have ever read a complete book. We did a program for a large
corporation once and the intended audience were supposedly all high
school and college graduates. In the program we used the phrase
"Notice the indented line." In pilot testing we found that few knew
what "indented" was (in all fairness, it turned out that many of the
group had graduated, but not from U.S. schools - lots of folks from
countries where English was not the primary language) and we had to
change the term to "set in."
I guess that the key is to know the audience and to realize what
abilities (or lack thereof) one is likely to encounter (er, "to come
upon").
Msg #20033 Dated 14:43:12 09-21-91 19955 <--> 20034
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Now that you have so clearly (and correctly) defined demigogue, I hope
that you won't make an attempt at synagogue.
Msg #20034 Dated 14:44:18 09-21-91 19956 <--> 20038
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
If the issue of the educational system is discussed in relation to
magic, such as concerns over doing book tests, I have no problem with
it. Just don't want to stray too far from that.
Have you considered doing book tests with Dr. Seuss?
Msg #20036 Dated 14:49:49 09-21-91 -> 20068
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: WHIMSEY
Ee;20029
I trod the boards heavily, the first time.
And then as I got used to the pain my feet grew lighter
And lighter still grew my heart until at last I looked
Across the footlights and saw myself in the cold glare
Smiling with wonder.
Msg #20037 Dated 14:49:57 09-21-91 20029 <--> 20047
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
I'll remind you to show me the talking watch.
Msg #20038 Dated 14:46:35 09-21-91 19957 <--> 20039
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
I frankly have difficulty in accepting the notion that magic is sexist.
I think that there have been some corruptions that are sexist - I am
frequently dismayed, to some extent, by the focus on sexual
sadomasochism for example, but those are individual acts, not magic in
general.
And, of course, some groups have been sexist.
But I do not conceive of magic itself as being inherently sexist.
Certainly, historically, it has been a shared craft. And there are a
growing number of brilliant women performers out there.
Msg #20039 Dated 14:51:43 09-21-91 19958 <--> 20040
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Sheesh! I hate getting into stuff like this with people who rely on
British dictionaries! I imagine that yours also lists COLOUR as the
primary spelling. My 1976 Webster's New Collegiate shows DEMAGOG as an
acceptable alternative.
Msg #20040 Dated 14:56:25 09-21-91 19970 <--> 20043
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
I didn't think there were any more rifle shooting veterinary
technicians, I thought that they had become rifle shooting table
makers.
Msg #20042 Dated 15:03:23 09-21-91 19963 <--> 20058
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CHRIS STARR
Re: BAD VIBES
Actually, we are in the process of setting up conference sections and
I think you will find that our approach to it is better than most,
since you will not have to switch from conf. to conf. once you have
selected the ones you want.
The system has always had the capability but since MAGIC! is private,
it relied on the sysop to enroll folks in conferences. The new system
will let you turn conferences (sections) on and off whenever you wish.
It is in Beta test right now and should be up very soon.
I really appreciate your suggestions. We will probably start with 3 or
4 areas and see how well people like it.
Msg #20043 Dated 15:06:43 09-21-91 20008 <--> 20056
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Thanks for the Peter Fetlock info... har ;-) Oh, almost got 300
books into my DB since yesterday. Quit working as back is tired!
Going to a local Spaghetti Feed Magic Inter Club Competition soon
will review Tomorrow... Unless the Raider Game takes 12 hours!
Msg #20044 Dated 15:06:50 09-21-91 20010 <--> 20050
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
You mean Siegfried didn't buy it from Franz? Hmmmm
Msg #20046 Dated 15:06:59 09-21-91 20015 <--> 20065
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I guess I'll have to "bone" up on my rock n roll... ;-]
Msg #20047 Dated 15:07:02 09-21-91 20016 <--> 20054
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Yeh, the four legged chickens... remember the gag?
Msg #20048 Dated 15:07:06 09-21-91 20017 <--> 20059
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
You will not believe it... I just was cataloging almost the 300th
book, by John Fisher and it flipped open to THE MAN WHO MADE ICE
FAMOUS. And and had a huge description of the magic that Van Hoven
did... something I had been trying to find for 30 years! Treat time.
Msg #20049 Dated 15:07:12 09-21-91 20018 <--> 20077
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LENO
Yo got it mon...
Msg #20050 Dated 15:07:16 09-21-91 20019 <--> 20052
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
I dunno what el Sheet is doing, he just tole me he had made it
gooder... I want one... how much do it cost?
Msg #20051 Dated 15:07:21 09-21-91 20021 <--> 20079
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TAOM CONVENTION
If he said "they ring like a bell" I am sure he would be analyzed?
Msg #20052 Dated 15:07:24 09-21-91 20022 <--> 20061
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
Bill Wells always says magic has gone ROTARIAN. Hmmmm
Msg #20053 Dated 15:07:28 09-21-91 20024 <--> 20081
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PENETRATION
My Guess it is in a Big olde Goldston locker... I will look.
Msg #20054 Dated 15:07:31 09-21-91 20029 <--> 20055
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
He would rather hear it? Than see it?
Msg #20055 Dated 15:07:35 09-21-91 20030 <--> 20069
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
OK, pull out the chicken and say, "Hah, they sent VP Quail to
check out the grain". Nah, doesn't have the same ring to it.
.
Remember Jack Kirkwood's Madhouse Little Theater? On the radio?
.
His catch phrase was "Put somethin' in the Pot Boy!"
Msg #20056 Dated 15:07:44 09-21-91 20033 <--> 20057
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Is that where you sin? ;=}
Msg #20057 Dated 15:07:47 09-21-91 20034 <--> 20071
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
I thought he was dead?
Msg #20058 Dated 15:08:55 09-21-91 19981 <--> 20082
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
I think that when the new sectioning system arrives, Tab, that you will
be pleased with the way that it works. I think that it will prove
superior to the approach taken by other systems. Both power users and
those with less skill should be equally well served. A LOT will depend
on how well the MAGIC! members use the new capability - if people
insist on messing up the sections then it will be significantly less
desirable than if they help. Only time will tell if the planning and
effort that has gone into this will be successful.
Msg #20059 Dated 15:15:37 09-21-91 19968 <--> 20060
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
At one time, the Holiday Inn at the Calloway's was the largest in the
World, am pretty certain it ain't no mo'.
Once flew from Auburn, Al. to Atlanta on Cherokee Airlines. Plane was
a Cessna 150. We dropped over Pine Mt. and circled real low. I asked
the pilot what we were doing and he said, "Well, they don't have a
radio, so if there are passengers to pick up, they spread a sheet out
on the runway. But I don't see any sheet, so I guess we go on to
Atlanta." When we got to ATL, the entire set of landing directions
were something like "Cherokee 172, do you see United flight 42 at 2
o'clock?" Answer: "Yes." Reply: "Follow him." They then did the
same bit on an American flight behind us - "follow Cherokee 172." You
got any idea how big a 747 REALLY is when it is comin' up your tail at
a couple hundred miles an hour and you are in a Cessna? Big.
Msg #20060 Dated 15:21:48 09-21-91 19990 <--> 20076
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Except a lot of magi would muff the line - probably come out "If you
think that was great, do you want to see something even cheesier?"
Msg #20061 Dated 15:23:54 09-21-91 19977 <--> 20062
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
Folks have good times in different ways, Pete. If it's workin', let's
not mess it up. But if it can be fixed, why not do it. I do know that
I would probably be involved in one or more local Rings if I'd been
invited.
Msg #20062 Dated 15:28:20 09-21-91 19991 <--> 20078
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
I'm usually a member of as little as possible. At one time, I was a
member of CEPTIA - The Committee to End Pay Toilets in America, but I
haven't gotten a newsletter in a long time, so I guess my membership
went down the drain.
Msg #20063 Dated 15:33:47 09-21-91 19975 <--> 20648
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WINTERS AND BEER
I hadn't heard about the preacher bit, but it wouldn't surprise me.
I've got one audio tape of him. We'll have to listen to it sometime.
Msg #20065 Dated 15:40:22 09-21-91 19986 <--> 20086
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Teens have been doing that since time began, Pete. In Victorian times
it was called "bundling." The Victorians, however, were more discrete
in that they didn't show it on television.
Msg #20066 Dated 15:42:28 09-21-91 19987 <--> 20090
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OCTOBER MAGIC!FEST!
The real question is - What do you think Seigfried and Roy have to do
with the tape that Gary asked me for? Considering that he was
suggestion a tape of the two MAGIC! events - Oct. 9th with Lance and
Oct. 6th with MAX, I think it would be more appropriate to get
permission from Max than it would be to try to explain to Max that
"Seigfried and Roy said it was OK."
I was not planning on dragging video equipment to Vegas, but if you
found out in advance that Lance wanted a tape, I'd be more than happy
to do it for him. On a casual basis like this, it would have to be a
one camera documentary shoot, but would be VERY high quality for its
type. Lemme know if he wants. Also, would we be hit by the room's
union? Or is OK?
Msg #20068 Dated 15:51:22 09-21-91 20036 <--> 20087
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHIMSEY
Solid stuff there, Tab. I like it.
Msg #20069 Dated 15:51:50 09-21-91 20037 <--> 20070
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEOS
No problem. I'll be glad to show it to you. Did I mention that it has
an accessory data port on the side for planned (but probably never
manufactured) accessories such as more RAM, an FM radio, etc.?
Msg #20070 Dated 15:53:27 09-21-91 20055 <--> 20075
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VIDEOS
How about "Ooops! A Quail! Goes against the grain."
Msg #20071 Dated 15:54:31 09-21-91 20057 <--> 20073
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
For a mentalist, it shouldn't make any difference if the guy is dead.
As a matter of fact, it is probably an advantage.
Msg #20072 Dated 15:56:42 09-21-91 -> 20161
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: THE MAN WHO WAS...
Just got Jeff Busby's Thaumaturgist #19 in today's mail. It would
appear that he was not overly pleased with your Genii review of The Man
Who Was Erdnase.
Msg #20073 Dated 16:18:40 09-21-91 20040 <--> 20074
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Tis true, tis true. Rifle shooting tabman table making veterinary
technicianing gourmet cooks. Howzat?
Msg #20074 Dated 16:18:46 09-21-91 20043 <--> 20089
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Spaghetti Feed Magic Competition zounds good. Hope you have fumn.
Msg #20075 Dated 16:18:52 09-21-91 20047 <--> 20088
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VIDEOS
The one about the four legged chickens? Yeah, I remember but I could
never catch one.
Msg #20076 Dated 16:18:57 09-21-91 20048 <--> 20083
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Man, you been really cooking on the book catalogueing. I will have
to do same when I hit the next plateau. We been making tabman tables
all day and will be for half the night. I keep taking breaks and
coming up to magic room office to check in wid the boys of summer
and jawing some. What is the John Fisher book?
Msg #20077 Dated 16:19:05 09-21-91 20049 <--> 20105
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LENO
Good deal!
Msg #20078 Dated 16:19:08 09-21-91 20050 <--> 20080
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
The version Rudy had costes 20 bucks and is good. Could make one up
easy, but somehow don't seem fair. I wanna see the improved version
to see if my demented mind is in the same gutter as El Sheeto.
Msg #20079 Dated 16:19:15 09-21-91 20051 <--> 20184
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TAOM CONVENTION
Thatz good. My seester analyzes me every time we get ona phone which
is why I only caller once or twice a year.
Msg #20080 Dated 16:19:20 09-21-91 20052 <--> 20084
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
What I wanna know is, is there a Sgt. At Arms in the Magic Clubs or
do they just use a Magic Club?
Msg #20081 Dated 16:19:27 09-21-91 20053 <--> 20107
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PENETRATION
Yeah, thanks. Check the Locked Books 4 me if you got some time
some time.
Msg #20082 Dated 16:19:32 09-21-91 20058 <--> 20101
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Well, I know you spend lotza hours every day messing around wid the
MAGIC! system. You is one dedicated DUDE. I know, I know.
Msg #20083 Dated 16:19:38 09-21-91 20059 <--> 20099
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Now wait a minute. You're talking to an old Cessena boy here who
grew up in light planes and I happen to know there ain't no room
in a Cessena 150 for more than a pilot and ONE rider. Musta been
something else, but I don't doubt the circle story at all. My dad
and I once flew from Hugo, OK to Americus, GA at 500 feet and
followed the highways alla way back. Didn't have an air chart just
a road map. Was in a Cessena 140.
Msg #20084 Dated 16:19:48 09-21-91 20062 <--> 20100
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
I haven't seen a pay toiley in years so ya'll musta done some good.
Thanks.
Msg #20086 Dated 16:20:02 09-21-91 20065 <--> 20103
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I always thought bundling would be a great thing to do. Spend the nig
ht with an other with only a "bundling board" between you. Kids then
stayed on their own side. Right!!!!
Msg #20087 Dated 16:20:08 09-21-91 20068 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHIMSEY
Tanks.
Msg #20088 Dated 16:20:13 09-21-91 20069 <--> 20098
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
I thought we were talking about a watch with a memory. This must
be ONE big watch.
Msg #20089 Dated 16:31:24 09-21-91 20074 <--> 20092
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
That is a great idea for a convention.....Pomodoro al' dente
Msg #20090 Dated 16:33:10 09-21-91 20066 <--> 20104
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OCTOBER MAGIC!FEST!
I have a Beteacam and all equipment if you need video in Vegas. I am
equiped to do all...let me know...
Msg #20092 Dated 16:35:08 09-21-91 20039 <--> 20093
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
David:
Throw that Webster's New Collegiate away!
It may show "demagog" as an acceptable alternative. The problem is
that Webster's New Collegiate is NOT an acceptable alternative to the
Oxford.
'W.
Msg #20093 Dated 20:33:59 09-21-91 20073 <--> 20094
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
It's gettin' better, but you forgot to add gorgeous, friendly, brave,
cheerful, reverent and a few other adjectives. In short, a great lady!
Msg #20094 Dated 20:35:20 09-21-91 20089 <--> 20095
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
I overcook my pasta by 2 minutes to make it al dente 'cause I got bad
teeth.
Msg #20095 Dated 20:36:10 09-21-91 20092 <--> 20096
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Regarding the Oxford, a Welsh friend of mine offers the following
comment on Britain and the U.S. - "Two nations divided by a common
language."
Ol' Daniel was a good man, even if he was a northerner, and I'll stick
with him. I'd switch to Random House but I don't like the word Random
used in conjunction with dictionaries - makes me worry.
Msg #20096 Dated 20:37:47 09-21-91 20094 <--> 20118
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
What is all this al dente stuff about? My dentist is named Sam Yip
Young.
Msg #20098 Dated 20:38:35 09-21-91 20088 <--> 20117
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Actually, the biggest part of the watch is the AA battery that powers
it. It is overly obvious for any "special effects" use - I wore it to
the Castle one day and someone asked me about my medical condition;
assuming that it was some kind of monitoring device.
Msg #20099 Dated 20:40:30 09-21-91 20083 <--> 20113
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
I thought that the 150 seated four. Anyway, this was a single engine
job that sorta seated four, but it was a "scheduled airline." They had
a little sign in the Auburn airport that read "To date we have safely
flown 10,374 passengers." On my flight I was the only passenger, so I
got to sit in the co-pilots seat.
Msg #20100 Dated 20:42:47 09-21-91 20084 <--> 20112
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
Actually, yes, we did do pretty good. Got pay toilets outlawed in a
couple of cities and taken out of a couple of airports. There are
still a few around, but not many.
Msg #20101 Dated 20:44:11 09-21-91 20082 <--> 20110
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Thanks. Yes, it actually does take a lot of time to keep MAGIC!
hummin', but most of the time I'm glad it got started. Big hurdle is
going to be to replace some of this hardware with the subscription
money and the donations. Right now I'm holdin' some of MAGIC! together
with bailin' wire and magic.
Msg #20103 Dated 20:49:16 09-21-91 20086 <--> 20115
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
We used to do the modern version when I was a teen. We bundled in the
back seat of a car and left the board home. Somewhere, I think I have
a book "On Bundling." One of those artsy type fancy books about it.
Also got some limited edition thing on chastity bealts - which was the
Victorian father's answer to the concept.
Msg #20104 Dated 20:52:00 09-21-91 20090 <--> 20116
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: OCTOBER MAGIC!FEST!
Sure would be nice to use a Betacam! They are so great. We use Canon
A1 Digitals - Hi-8 with AFM stereo and the ability, if pushed, to
capture images in .5 lux - yep, point five. You'd be surprised what we
can do with 'em - just no external synch.
Msg #20105 Dated 20:55:53 09-21-91 20000 <--> 20109
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: LENO
By the way, the THIRTY THOUSANDTH MAGIC! message - # 20000 in the
current numbering system - was sent by - drum roll - Pete Biro! In
concerned how he got to meet Jay Leno.
Msg #20106 Dated 22:56:45 09-21-91 -> 20130
From: BARRY GITELSON
To: ALL
Re: COMPUSERVE
Does anyone know how to find the MicroMagicon conferance in compuserve?
For that matter ....does anyone know if its any good???? I read about
it in an old (8/89) issue of the linking ring that I was parusing and
can't get into it....the conferance ...not the magazine!
Also....can anyone verify the rumor I heard that the 1993 PCAM is to be
held in Honolulu.
Aloha
Msg #20107 Dated 23:52:29 09-21-91 20003 <--> 20123
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PENETRATION
What's the Martin Butterfly Production? - aside
from the obvious.
Msg #20108 Dated 23:56:12 09-21-91 -> 20139
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NEW GENII
In speaking with the local post office they
said they used to get quite a few from Hawaii
before postage went up and yes, it's still
allowed.
Msg #20109 Dated 23:59:15 09-21-91 19936 <--> 20133
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LENO
I gotta look up syphaletic. The best part of
Circus Vargas is watching them set up the tent.
It's also the best value they have - It's free!
Msg #20110 Dated 0:39:13 09-22-91 20082 <--> 20111
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Appoint a "section monitor." Save yourself from the ignomious task of
having to admonish people every time they stray from the section fold.
Better yet, form a TEAM of monitors, who switch off days. Even better,
slowly expand the size of the pool so EVERYONE's a monitor. Yes, I
know even the best of us make mistakes, so develop a disciplinary
system. Punishment could be minutes, hours, or even days of being
locked off the sysyem. Or, even better, minutes, hours, or days of
ONLY being able to read Biro's messages. I guarantee you'll have no
section encroachers if you carefully enforce the rules, and use this
punishment.
Msg #20111 Dated 0:43:02 09-22-91 20110 <--> 20136
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
screw you guys!
Msg #20112 Dated 0:42:58 09-22-91 20062 <--> 20114
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
In Russia they send people to Siberia for telling jokes that bad.
Msg #20113 Dated 0:43:23 09-22-91 20060 <--> 20120
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
You missed the fact the I blew the line! Now I forget the actual
wording. Darn.
Msg #20114 Dated 0:43:28 09-22-91 20062 <--> 20121
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
The pay toilet was invented in England by a magician. Do you know
which mage? That also is where the saying "spend a penny" comes
from. (Cost originally was an English Penny).
Msg #20115 Dated 0:43:34 09-22-91 20065 <--> 20125
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I just think it is a SHAME that Subtle has vanished from the
current scene!!!!!!!!!
Msg #20116 Dated 0:43:39 09-22-91 20066 <--> 20149
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OCTOBER MAGIC!FEST!
NO NO No video in Vegas. I missed the point when Two Events wuz
mentioned, thinking it was TWO EVENTS IN VEGAS and I just assumed
the second was S&R. Dunno why.
Msg #20117 Dated 0:43:45 09-22-91 20070 <--> 20119
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
STick to the tech stuff!
Msg #20118 Dated 0:43:49 09-22-91 20074 <--> 20137
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
The Spaghetti was great. The acts? On a local level, pretty good.
The venue was terrible. No curtain on the stage. Sold out, packed
crowd... lotsa fun. Family type crowd, kids etc. all liked it.
Details tomorrow.
Msg #20119 Dated 0:43:55 09-22-91 20075 <--> 20126
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Thass why nobody knows how they taste!
Msg #20120 Dated 0:43:59 09-22-91 20076 <--> 20124
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
John Fisher penned a book of history wrapped around Paul Daniels.
Bery good book, bery good!!!
Msg #20121 Dated 0:44:04 09-22-91 20078 <--> 20122
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
If you think I should have one let me know, I will pay the 20 hides
altho I don't have it... just got the property tax bill. Might
have to sell my blood!
Msg #20122 Dated 0:44:11 09-22-91 20080 <--> 20141
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
I think the correct spelling is Klub.
Msg #20123 Dated 0:44:15 09-22-91 20081 <--> 20132
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PENETRATION
Will look tonite later or manana.
Msg #20124 Dated 0:44:19 09-22-91 20083 <--> 20128
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
The airline Frog mentioned utilized saddles, as I recall.
I once flew Piedmont somewhere and they landed on a small strip,
there was single little building aboaut the size of a tool shed.
Plane rolled up, guy in suit came out of shed, got on.
Later STew told me the guy was very Rich and commuted to work
from his own private airstrip and the airline stopped every day
to pick him up.
Msg #20125 Dated 0:44:29 09-22-91 20086 <--> 20129
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Comic on TV just said, "My parents are over 50 and still have sex.
They want Grandchildren"
Msg #20126 Dated 0:44:34 09-22-91 20088 <--> 20127
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VIDEOS
So big it has an echo!
Msg #20127 Dated 0:44:38 09-22-91 20098 <--> 20150
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Bring a small pair of wires with Aligator clips onem. Ask someone
if they would mind helping you out. Ask if they have an electric
watch. Then say, showing clips and wires, "Would you mind jump
starting mine?"
Msg #20128 Dated 0:44:45 09-22-91 20099 <--> 20131
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
How did you get the safety belt around the two of you?
I wuz once on a plane so small the prop stayed still and the plane
spun through the air.
Msg #20129 Dated 0:44:50 09-22-91 20103 <--> 20147
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I have a real chastity belt. Ken Brooke gave it to me. We had worked
up a 7-Keys (Key-R-Rect) routine. At the table, you pass the keys
around to the guys... give the Chastity Belt to a fun loving girl
and say, "Whoever has the key that unlocks the belt gets to go
home with...."
.
Needless to say the Mojo Man wins!
.
Msg #20130 Dated 0:45:01 09-22-91 20106 <--> 20135
From: PETE BIRO
To: BARRY GITELSON (X)
Re: COMPUSERVE
In Compuserve you GO SCIENCE and into Subsection 14. There are about
4 messages a week there. Not much action. Nuttin' Honey, as they
say in my country.
Msg #20131 Dated 0:45:01 09-22-91 20059 <--> 20143
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
How long ago was this airport incident?
Msg #20132 Dated 0:45:07 09-22-91 20107 <--> 20138
From: PETE BIRO
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: PENETRATION
It is illustrated in one of the Karl Germain books. Bascially it
is a production of a life size butterfly silk. Very ingenious
mechanical device. Costs a couple of thousand bucks minimum if you
could find one. Maybe 5K. Works on the principle of a load being
rocketed around your body on a track and the load expands via a
lazy tong arrangement.
Msg #20133 Dated 0:45:18 09-22-91 20109 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: LENO
Syphaletic.... like in Social Disease! (Mebbe my dictionary is
olde fashooned.... Later.
Msg #20135 Dated 0:49:07 09-22-91 20130 <--> 20171
From: EVAN KATZ
To: BARRY GITELSON (X)
Re: COMPUSERVE
I second Pete Biro's assessment. They used to hold forums every
Tuesday night, but the last couple of times I checked, no one was
there. I did, however, here about MAGIC! from the CServe forum, so it
wasn't a total wash!
Msg #20136 Dated 0:50:47 09-22-91 20111 <--> 20140
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Just kidding, Pete!
Msg #20137 Dated 0:51:58 09-22-91 20039 <--> 20152
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
David--
Just checked by 1982 edition of Webster's NewWorld Dictionary. As of
that date, "demagog" was still listed as an alternate spelling.
As far as I understand it, the Oxford English Dictionary is a
dictionary of just that -- English. And that the American version of
the language, with syntax and spellings all its own, it better
represented by our own tomes. Question -- does the Oxford make an
attempt to deal with American English? And if so, is there a notable
snobbery that biases them?
Msg #20138 Dated 0:55:44 09-22-91 20132 <--> 20177
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PENETRATION
A "life size butterfly silk?" I assume you mean a much larger than
life-sized silk, as if anyone needs 5K worth of apparatus to produce a
silk the size of a butterfly, they'd better... Practice?
Msg #20139 Dated 0:59:13 09-22-91 20108 <--> 20405
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: NEW GENII
Thanks for the info on mailing coconuts, Dante! I was once almost
killed by a falling coconut when I lived in Florida. I was riding a
bike and had stopped for a traffic light when one fell out of a 40 foot
tall tree! Missed me by inches!
Msg #20140 Dated 1:01:38 09-22-91 20110 <--> 20172
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Thanks for your suggestion. I'll think on it. My first thought will
be to try to move messages to the proper sections. But that may just
make me a slave to the system. But you do have an idea there - punish
the offenders by making them perform one of the menial systems tasks
for a couple of days - like moving messages to the proper sections.
Msg #20141 Dated 1:04:29 09-22-91 20112 <--> 20142
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
No, in Russia the USED to send people to Siberia for telling jokes that
bad. Now they put them on the staff of Pravda.
Msg #20142 Dated 1:05:25 09-22-91 20114 <--> 20175
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
Gee, I always thought that the pay toilet was invented by a guy who
held the record for doing the limbo. But you say it was a mage -- OK,
was it John Change?
Msg #20143 Dated 1:07:11 09-22-91 20113 <--> 20144
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Actually, in the case of the "do you want to see a grater trick?" it is
probably fortunate that you have forgotten the actual wording!
By the way, are you familiar with the story of the weary traveler who
took refuge in a remote monestary during a storm? They served him fish
and chips and the meal was incredibly good. So afterwards he went into
the kitchen to compliment the cooks. He walked up to the first brother
that he saw and said, "Are you the fish friar?" And the fellow said,
"No, I'm the chip monk."
Now you know why I started a MAGIC system, NOT a comedy one, and why
I'd like to see this one remain a MAGIC one.
Msg #20144 Dated 1:11:31 09-22-91 20120 <--> 20145
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
"John Fisher penned a book of history wrapped around Paul Daniels..."
Man, does that give rise to some weird visual imagery!
Msg #20145 Dated 1:12:49 09-22-91 20128 <--> 20146
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Thanks, Pete. There was NO co-pilot - guess they didn't send one if
there was only one passenger, so I got the seat. Didn't mean to imply
that I might have sat in her lap. I did ask the pilot about in-flight
meal service and he said, "Well, I have a half of a sandwich left
over."
Msg #20146 Dated 1:15:04 09-22-91 20131 <--> 20168
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Hmmm... Let's see... The Cherokee Airlines flight was about 1968. I
don't think the FAA called it an "incident," I think they called it
"routine."
Msg #20147 Dated 1:17:13 09-22-91 20115 <--> 20148
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I agree - Subtle seems to be a lost art along with "we leave it to your
imagination" along with imagination. Maybe that's the problem with a
lot of magic - it relies on imagination as well as the notion that you
can remember the premise by the time the conclusion occurs.
Msg #20148 Dated 1:20:41 09-22-91 20129 <--> 20170
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Re: The chastity belt/7-key routine. This clears up a big mystery for
me! I'd always wondered why magi weren't successful with women!
Msg #20149 Dated 1:22:10 09-22-91 20116 <--> 20830
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OCTOBER MAGIC!FEST!
OK, you wrote "Actually, Lance might like a tape." That's why I
suggested video. Otherwise, I have no intentions of lugging the gear.
Far as I know, there is only one event in Vegas - The MAGIC! excursion
to Lance's late show on October 9th.
But there is also a MAGIC! field trip to see a rare American appearance
of Max Maven at the Ice House in Pasadena on October 6th.
And, if anyone is planning to attend either of these events and hasn't
left me a message about it yet - they should DO IT so that we will know
how many people to expect at each event. Both of these should be
terrific!
Msg #20150 Dated 1:25:18 09-22-91 20117 <--> 20151
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VIDEOS
"Stick to the tech stuff." Er... mumble... mumble... fizz... fizz.
Msg #20151 Dated 1:26:46 09-22-91 20127 <--> 20624
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Re: The aligator clips to jump start the watch. Now THAT is funny!
I've always wanted to walk up to someone's desk and say "Mind if I
borrow your phone?" When they say "No" I would pull out a pair of
cutting pliers and...
Msg #20152 Dated 1:28:37 09-22-91 20137 <--> 20154
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
I'm not an Oxford fan, so you may want to direct your questions about
its bias to T A.
Msg #20154 Dated 1:31:47 09-22-91 20096 <--> 20155
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Yeah...I know and he always schedules his patients at 2:30!!!!
Msg #20155 Dated 1:37:53 09-22-91 20032 <--> 20156
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Ogilvy (the ad guy) once researched some copy and found out that 50% of
the people who read a particular mag did not know what the word
"obsolete" meant.
Msg #20156 Dated 1:38:53 09-22-91 20033 <--> 20157
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Sure. Synagogue means "just like a gogue."
Msg #20157 Dated 1:39:48 09-22-91 20038 <--> 20158
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Still a lotta guys who do the bra trick -- and I think by now I have
heard every lame rationalization for doing it that could be
imagined.nx
Msg #20158 Dated 1:40:44 09-22-91 20039 <--> 20159
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Tsk. Dictionaries like that are one of the early signs of the
Apocalypse (and I don't mean HL's mag...).
Msg #20159 Dated 1:42:28 09-22-91 20095 <--> 20162
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
When I wrote PSYCHOLOGISTICS for Random House I used the word
"paralogia" in it. Since I had a few neologisms in the tome, they
called up to ask if that was one. "No," I said. "You'll find it on
page (whatever) of the RANDOM HOUSE DICTIONARY."
Msg #20161 Dated 1:47:49 09-22-91 20072 <-
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: THE MAN WHO WAS...
In the general magic community today, being disliked by Busby does not
exactly put me in a minority group.
Msg #20162 Dated 1:53:01 09-22-91 20155 <--> 20163
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Hmmm... Let me guess - Ogilvy's reasearch (that 50% of the readers did
not know what "obsolete" meant) was done on Scientific American.
The head of marketing for one of the "schools" that markets heavily on
daytime television once told me that they lose over 50% of the calls to
the 800 number because the folks either dial just the last seven
digits, as if it was a local number, or they never can get the idea of
dialing the "1" at the beginning. That is one reason that most
television commercials with 800 numbers use "DIAL ONE-800." etc.
I think that one of the things that magi (and many entertainers in
general) fail to realize is the actual location of the median person in
our society. They assume that most folks are pretty much like
themselves. Pete has the right idea when he says that if you really
want to hit the average you should watch a lot of MTV. Of course,
there is no necessity to entertain the masses - one can make a pretty
nice living doing private parties in Beverly Hills.
Msg #20163 Dated 2:03:03 09-22-91 20156 <--> 20164
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
ARGH! (tm - Biro) - You did it again, T A. You know, I don't know how
many times I can fall off of this chair before I suffer irreparable
damage.
Msg #20164 Dated 2:05:27 09-22-91 20157 <--> 20165
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Well, the Comedy Club show at IBM '91 was well balanced - Sheets did
the bra trick and Williamson did a jockey shorts swap.
Just for the record, Becky Blaney did the shirt steal on me. (And I
didn't accuse her of being a sexist).
Msg #20165 Dated 2:10:26 09-22-91 20158 <--> 20166
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Hmmmm... I don't recall "weak dictionaries" as being one of the
published apocalyptic indicators. Usually, weak dictionaries are
considered a sign of apocope.
Msg #20166 Dated 2:16:02 09-22-91 20159 <--> 20173
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
I'll be they had to go find a copy of the RHD.
In something I wrote recently we had to search for several example
records by last names. For the most difficult search, I chose the name
Stanley. The editor forced me to change it because "Stanley isn't a
last name."
Msg #20168 Dated 7:26:47 09-22-91 20099 <--> 20174
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Sounds like it mighta been a Cessena 172. High wing or low wing?
Msg #20170 Dated 7:26:58 09-22-91 20103 <--> 20179
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I couldn't get any girls to "bundle" with me til I got in a band.
Msg #20171 Dated 7:27:02 09-22-91 20106 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BARRY GITELSON (X)
Re: COMPUSERVE
Pete Biro prob already answered this but GO SCIENCE and join there.
Msg #20172 Dated 7:27:06 09-22-91 20110 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Section monitors?
Msg #20173 Dated 7:27:09 09-22-91 20118 <--> 20182
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
You should see the wire spaghetti in the studio!
Msg #20174 Dated 7:27:14 09-22-91 20120 <--> 20178
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Will keep my eyes open for the Fisher book. Thanks.
Msg #20175 Dated 7:27:18 09-22-91 20121 <--> 20176
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
Well talk about it week after next.
Msg #20176 Dated 7:27:21 09-22-91 20122 <--> 20646
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MY FIRST INVENTION
The underwater blub klub!
Msg #20177 Dated 7:27:25 09-22-91 20123 <--> 20404
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PENETRATION
I looked in locked book #1 which is what I have and no Vanityf Fair
thar.
Msg #20178 Dated 7:27:30 09-22-91 20124 <--> 20180
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Flying Piedmont AL from Altana to Greenvul, SC one day I had two
pistolas in my suitcase with ammo, etc. After I got on the plane
they threw the bags into the back seats. Good thing I ain't no
hijacker.
Msg #20179 Dated 7:27:36 09-22-91 20125 <--> 20202
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
That's good. I was wondering where grandchildren come from.
Msg #20180 Dated 7:27:40 09-22-91 20143 <--> 20181
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!! That's really funny. Thanks for the great
joke. Do you mind if I tell it to somebody?
Msg #20181 Dated 7:27:44 09-22-91 20145 <--> 20198
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Nothings changed. Was flying back from Atl City the other day on
Paw Paw AL or some such and the copilot climbed in the window up
near where I was sitting. She started to fall and I grabbed her by
the arm and hauled her in. You don't see that on Delta or NW.
Msg #20182 Dated 7:27:50 09-22-91 20154 <--> 20183
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Yeah......2:30 am since it's the only time he can get in the clinic
undetected.
Msg #20183 Dated 7:27:55 09-22-91 20166 <--> 20203
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Stewart James had the same problem early on in his career.
Msg #20184 Dated 7:22:45 09-22-91 20021 <--> 20185
From: DOUG SMITH
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TAOM CONVENTION
Tabby...I suspect you have a lot of advice for your sister. My
suggestion would be to have a few puzzles that your sister could either
give or show how they work. I have had a lot ossuccess in breaking
down barriers with them in my classroom. A couple might be;
a) the horseshoe puzzle where two pony shoes are joined on ends with
chains and then have a ring over the joining chains. The idea is
get the ring off. It is also impossible to break.
b) There is the $1.50 trick sold in magic shops where three colored
cardboard cards are shown and the performercan determine which
has been turned over by the participant while the operators head
was turned.
c) or even the stick with a loop of string that is put through a
persons button hole and the idea is to remove the string and stick
without breaking either. The loop of string will not slide over theend
of the stick.
d) maybe the penny safe where a penny is put into a wooden box and
the trick is to get the penny out.
If my desptions are weak I will expand. My thought is that your
sister could show each how it is done at the end of a session. It
seems as if the last few years have brought my attention to kids who
are having severe problems. In the last two years i know of five kids
that were getting help and two teachers who didn't finish the year.
Msg #20185 Dated 7:34:21 09-22-91 20184 <--> 20187
From: DOUG SMITH
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: TAOM CONVENTION
desptions...should be descriptions.
Msg #20187 Dated 8:11:37 09-22-91 20184 <--> 20654
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: TAOM CONVENTION
Actually, I didn't have a lot of advice for her and appreciate yours.
This is another reason that MAGIC! is so fine as to the varied
interests and experiences here online. If the kids depended on me
to show them magic they'd all turn into card sharks. Your suggestions
are much appreciated and I'll pass the info along. Many thanks. Any
other suggestions will be appreciated as well.
Msg #20198 Dated 9:33:44 09-22-91 20168 <--> 20199
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Both - I think it was a bi-plane. Actually, I think it was a high
wing. I only flew on Cherokee once, mostly because they didn't have a
frequent flyer program.
Msg #20199 Dated 9:37:01 09-22-91 20180 <--> 20200
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
The joke was not an original. I think the pilot on Cherokee told it to
me - they didn't have in-flight movies.
Msg #20200 Dated 9:38:41 09-22-91 20181 <--> 20623
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
I'm glad to hear that there is still some adventure left in the air.
I was once on a big jet flight and some dude was tryin' to open the
window by cutting it out with a pocketknife! I mentioned it to a
stewardess and she seemed pretty upset. Went right back there and
yelled at him to stop.
Msg #20202 Dated 9:44:30 09-22-91 20170 <--> 20261
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I couldn't get any girls to bundle with me until I took off my slide
rule.
Msg #20203 Dated 9:46:52 09-22-91 20183 <--> 20211
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Yeah, I'll bet Stewart James did! I told the editor all about Henry
Morton Stanley and his search for Livingston, but she failed to see the
humor in the idea.
Msg #20210 Dated 10:27:52 09-22-91 -> 20241
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I have a question about a couple of ads I've seen and wondered whether
or not anyone has had any experience with them.
Magicruise '92 which is going to the Carribean next year. Has anybody
been on one? Do they have events and things scheduled for spouses?
Does it seem to be a good value as compared to other cruises?
I've been considering getting a tuxedo for some time. Not just for
magic (I know how some of you disdain performers in tuxedos) but for
occasional formal affairs and I'm tired of renting them and I would
like to have my own. I have seen the ads in the Linking Ring for
Chilber and Co. which prices them from $189 to $295. Has anyone had
any experience with them or know of anyone who has? Thanks...
Msg #20211 Dated 10:45:30 09-22-91 20182 <--> 20222
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
No because "tooth hurty" (2:30).....uhh.....barum bump
Msg #20214 Dated 13:42:38 09-22-91 -> 20224
From: DOUG SMITH
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: N
If you provide me an address I will:
a) send copies of the writeups and instructions
b) send copy of notes provided to chem teachers that include the
flashing fingertips and stage fog.
Msg #20215 Dated 13:45:47 09-22-91 -> 20235
From: DOUG SMITH
To: ALL
Re: NO TEAR PAPER
Can anyone give information on no tear paper? Original use?
creator?manufactorer? I bought mine from Paul diamond at an
IBMconvention but unable to find more.
Msg #20218 Dated 14:25:50 09-22-91
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: ALL
Re: RUBBERBANDS
MAGIC!-NL Sun 22 Sep 91 17:26
Arnaud Van.Rietschoten posted the following msg:
At FISM I bought Michael Weber's book Lifesavers. I was very
pleased with his rubberband penetration, which he also
demonstrates perfect.
I have been working with the effect, but what ever kind of
rubberband I use, they all have the same problem that you see
you have double-looped a rubberband with the intention to
show it as one loop. I discussed the problem with some of my
friends and they all have the same problem.
I remember Michael told us he now uses rubberbands he got from
Japan, and I must admit the illusion is great!!
I wonder if any of the other MAGIC! readers have played with the
effect and were able to obtain the perfect rubberband.
Please let us know.......
---
* Origin: MAGIC!-NL, Home of the wizards, +31-23-388725 (2:0/0)
---
Msg #20221 Dated 14:50:20 09-22-91 -> 20243
From: MIKE KING
To: ALL
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
Hi BBSers-
I am in the market for a ride to the big Biro/Crabb Wingding next
month in Las Vegas. It was been on the board. Thanks to Mr. SYSOP and
I am sure most of you know that it's Oct. 9. I am not the biggest fan
of flying and would like to see if anyone out there is going and
wouldn't mind a passenger (who will help with gas, of course) tagging
along for the ride. If anyone, please give me a shout here or by the
phone at (213) 856-5652. Thanks and hope to talk with someone soon.
MIKE.
Msg #20222 Dated 14:55:08 09-22-91 20211 <--> 20223
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
2:30; that'sgood Geno. I'm glad to see you've retained your sense of
humor.
Msg #20223 Dated 15:17:32 09-22-91 20222 <--> 20225
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Did you hear about the Siamese Twin Magician? He went to England so he
could perform the BLINFOLD DRIVE! .....
Msg #20224 Dated 15:37:22 09-22-91 20214 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: N
Thanks Doug.....
Tabman, P.O. Box 590, Charlotte Hall, MD 20622
I'll tell my seester.
Msg #20225 Dated 15:38:48 09-22-91 20223 <--> 20226
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Wait a minute Geno. The one on the left or the one on the right.
Msg #20226 Dated 17:43:39 09-22-91 20225 <--> 20227
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
They were both paranoid, so they said, "No you drive",,,"No you bettter
drive", and so on.
Msg #20227 Dated 18:54:23 09-22-91 20226 <--> 20228
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Looking 4ward to seeing you in a couple weeks. Will have a couple of
laughs and do some rapping, eh what?
Msg #20228 Dated 19:41:15 09-22-91 20159 <--> 20252
From: EVAN KATZ
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
T A:
What was PSYCHOLOGISTICS? Sounds interesting.
Msg #20235 Dated 21:50:43 09-22-91 20215 <--> 20242
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: NO TEAR PAPER
I'm not familiar with Paul's "no tear paper." There is a commercial
product of this sort - made by Avery, but it is plastic. There is also
Tyvek, used mostly for envelopes, that can't be readily torn. Don't
know exactly what you are looking for.
Msg #20241 Dated 21:59:11 09-22-91 20210 <--> 20257
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
No experience with advertised Tuxes.... I would go to a good
reliable LOCAL high-quality mens wear store. Have a tux fitted to
your body... mail order won't cut it. I will go look at the label
on mine (be right back). It is CHAPS by Ralph Lauren, 100-percent
wool, I think (it has the Woolmark label).
You got to be in style and magic supply house likely has old
stock. Look in the current men's magazines for accessories. Be
subtle. The red tie and cumberbund is obsolete. A vest is much
classier than a cumberbund.
It is better (for social events) to be conservative. On stage
you got to think about what you want to say with your look.
.
Last night an act asked me for advice (after a competition) The
Act had a trash can and worked with Kites on stage. Wearing a Tux.
I told him right off. YOU NEED A PERIOD COSTUME, LIKE A KID WITH
A CAP ON AND KNICKERS.... you are PLAYING WITH KITES. Nobody does
that in a Tux. His wife and pal were listening and they flipped out
over the advice and said they would help to pick the clothing..
what a great idea, etc. It never dawned on him to DRESS for the
act... he thought you should always wear a tux. When he thought
about it for a minute he really understood.
Msg #20242 Dated 21:59:34 09-22-91 20215 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: NO TEAR PAPER
Just cut up some Federal Express envelopes. It is readily available
and cheeap in most commercial print shops. (Not PIP type).
Msg #20243 Dated 21:59:38 09-22-91 20221 <--> 20265
From: PETE BIRO
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
If all else fails, take a bus tour. They have all kinds of bus
deals to the casinos. Or the choo choo train.
Msg #20245 Dated 21:59:46 09-22-91 -> 20249
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Ee;20229
Annual Spaghetti Feed AND Inter-Club Competition.
24 or 25 years ago, when I was here before, we started an annual
show for the local area clubs to each send a rep, have a contest
show and social, featuring spaghetti. Well, the club has been
going strong, the Oakland Magic Circle, is independant and used
to be honored with many professional members.
This year's affair was held in a City building within the
Oakland Zoo grounds. Nice place, but no curtain for the stage !
The Salvation Army provided (for a sizeable donation) the chow.
I went back for big seconds!
Magic Dealer Steve Dawson, MAGIC TOUCH, Milpitas, Calif., was
MC and he donated $100 cash for the winner, Phil Temple added a
"hot off the presses" copy of his new DANTE book and the winner
also got a trophy, plus name engraved on the permanent one at the
OMC HQ in Oakland.
First up was a young lad (and probably his two sisters) doing
more illusions than would fit in MY garage... and would fit on
the stage... He somehow was able to dance around 'em, producing one
little girl (they were all in Blue Sequined matching outfits!!!!)
from a Doll House and the other from a Stack of Boxes. Oh, his
name is Chris Minchillo and is from SAM 112, Concord, Calif.
He had pretty good music and closed with the Hindu Basket.
.
A FIRST HERE ON MAGIC! I WILL GIVE MY SCORES: He got 64 points.
.
Note: You have to give the FIRST act a medium score. If you go
too high you have trouble going higher, etc. OK? 60-is what I
usually start at (out of 100) so I thought he was better than just
OK but not a winner (unless all the rest were terrible)
.
Next we saw James George from IBM 192, Sacramento, Calif. A young
act with large table and candelabra (he was hard to see behind
the candelabra a few times). Mod dress, opened with a floating
bottle (hard to see he was behind the stuff on his table) but the
audience thought it fairly good. Did liquid into paper "Absorbing
News" they call it... Tore and restoed the paper (Tabloid size)(
ala Gene Anderson. First time I ever saw Anderson method done this
size. Hmmmm. Did floating lit candle, but why turn all the lights
out? Could hardly see anything. ARgh... He closed with a near
killer effect! The shadow box. We all know it... but his handling
was great. The figure appeared inside and pushed out on the
elasticised sides, etc. and WHEN HE OPENED THE FRONT THERE WAS NO
ONE THERE. A KILLER FOR SPEED AND SURPRISE. The audience really
got nailed and big applause. He should have quit. He fooled 'em.
Then he goes back and produces the guy out of the box. He should
have closed with the vanish. Anyway, I gave him 77 points.
.
Following was Jimmy Kwong in great Chinese wardrobe. Did the usual
feather flower productions (which I normally hate) but his style
and PERFORMING ABILITY made it FUN! And he had a ton of them! (OK,
he makes 'em himself). He then did the paper in mouth with FIRE.
He blew tons of smoke and SPARKS out of his mouth. The best I have
ever seen. Then the continuous paper from mouth with a kid in front
row joining in the pulling out... it never stopped. I have never
seen this done better. He was having a ball, and the way he and
the kid interacted won the audience for the rest of his act.
He did a strange Chinese effect where he put rice in a saucepan
and it "cooked" itself. Heat from the pan provided funny bits with
a spectator trying to hold it. Never seen this effect before.
He closed with blooming bush and giant flagstaff silks produc-
tions. He was very strong with the audience reaction. They loved
what he did. I scored Jimmy at 86 (he's from SAM 10, Hayward, Calif.
.
Devon Simonovich, a very young lad from IBM 216, San Jose, Calif.,
followed. He did small manipulative work with golf balls, etc.,
and included a very well done Zombie (I liked his style) in which
he passed a hoop over it... a clever handling. He was very smooth,
had great hands and a terrific style. In his early teens, I told
him later to keep at it he had incredible stage presence and a lot
of potential. He got a 77 from me.
.
Phil Ackerly, SAM 94, Palo Alto, Calif., was next. Ackerly won the
close up earlier this year at the PCAM in Concord. He had a nice
theme, using American Express cards of varying sizes. Did a funny
6 card repeat using Travellers Cheques, which turned to Dollars
ala the Pat Page (Kaps used same idea) effect. Had bill grow to
giant size and took out giant wallet (he said it took a whole cow
to make the wallet) to put the money in. I thought he would go
farther with that, but switched to a boring mental number trick
that didn't relate... and I think he dropped with the audience
because of it. He got an 82 on my score sheet.
.
The last act was Tim Hart, from the Oakland Magic Circle. I had
seen the act before and it was essentially the same. He opens with
Kite Productions, doing nice stuff with his assistant involved more
as a co-performer than a slave -- he also had some streamer type
kites, then did a Linking Kite Frame routine (a hair too long),
and then pattered about Ben Franklin, produced a Key, but didn't
do anything with it... His closer was the floating kite. A box
kite... but his failure to really check and understand the lights
killed it. The thread showed like a neon tube. They had side
lights and killed the fronts -- which is 180-degrees wrong. So
his act died right then and there. He was pretty upset later,
saying the crew missed his instructions. Too bad. Tough kind of
an act to do in that type of venue. I still gave him 80 points.
.
So the winner: Jimmy Kwong, Phil Ackerly and Tim Hart. (Same order
I had them in, and interestingly, one of the judges was not into
magic at all. A casting director from the TV industry. She was
the one "non mage" in the jury... and her scores and mine were
almost identical right down the line!)
The evening was quite fun, the place was packed, the Salvation
Army volunteers did a great job with the food and took 236 tickets
in.
Msg #20249 Dated 22:13:49 09-22-91 20245 <--> 20258
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Thanks for the great report, Pete. Sounds like an enjoyable evening.
And thanks for the idea of posting your scores! That was GREAT.
Msg #20250 Dated 23:12:08 09-22-91 -> 20259
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
Tabby, got your call. Regarding Vanity Fair illusion, I don't know
much about it other than what T.A. has in his Encyclopedia. It
mentions that the illusion is explained in Hopkins book, which I think
we sold you a copy. I did recently see Blackstone do a version with
appropriate patter - through the looking glass. Will ask Richard if he
knows anything about it.
Charlie
Msg #20252 Dated 23:20:39 09-22-91 20228 <--> 20278
From: T A WATERS
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
It was a self-help book I did back in '71; spped reading, problem
solving, memory, that sort of thing.
Msg #20257 Dated 6:23:55 09-23-91 20241 <--> 20271
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Get a nice tux, Stan. You won't be sorry. Mine is a Pierre Cardan
or however you spell it and makes even me look like a million bux.
Msg #20258 Dated 6:24:01 09-23-91 20245 <--> 20272
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Glad to hear they had such a big turn out. Thanks for letting us know
what was going on. I like the idea of the act with kites.
Msg #20259 Dated 6:24:06 09-23-91 20250 <--> 20269
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
Thanks Charlie. I knew I had seen somthing here on the illusion. My
TA book is packed up so didn't get to look there, but think I know
where to find the Hopkins book. I love all you guys for all the help,
books, videos, inspiration, suggestions, etc. So does Ma Bell's
daughter, C&P. Pete, TA, and You were able to point me in the right
direction. And yes, you KNOW you sold me a copy of the HOPKINS. After
hearing what Jim Steinmeyer had to say about the book I felt lucky
that H&R had one for me. Have a good one.......
Msg #20261 Dated 7:17:33 09-23-91 20129 <--> 20273
From: MICHAEL AMMAR
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
I'm sure it would depend on the routine and the performer, but I think
the idea is absolutely hilarious!
Msg #20265 Dated 9:39:33 09-23-91 20243 <--> 20266
From: MIKE KING
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
Oh..the train sounds real nice. Never even thought about it. Believe
it or not haven't riden a train in the U.S. . Had a Eurail Pass while
working in Europe and that was the only way I used to get around. Will
give it a look. Thanks. How ya doin', Pete? Hope well. Talk to ya
later. MIKE.
Msg #20266 Dated 11:01:02 09-23-91 20265 <--> 20279
From: PETE BIRO
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
Train goes from LA right to Union Station in Vegas. Cab to Hacienda.
Msg #20269 Dated 11:01:50 09-23-91 20250 <--> 20280
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
Blackstone did the version (very large one) on the stage at the
IBM in St. Louis.
.
Tab... the trick, at the table you mention has another effect,
Thayer's Handkerchief frame. Do you know it?
.
You borrow a white handkerchief, tack it to an EMPTY PICTURE FRAME.
You put the frame into a paper bag, that it JUST fits into.
You then stab knives, etc. thru it... you could reach your arm
thru and back, etc.
.
Ask and ye shall receive the modus oparandi, if you don't know it.
Msg #20271 Dated 11:02:09 09-23-91 20257 <--> 20277
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
You even out did me with a PC tux.... yep, as Al Koran said at
the beginning of his lectures...
.
"You already know enough tricks. Don't buy anymore tricks. Go out
and buy the most expensive suit you can afford."
.
Perception is everything. <----maybe the most important line I have
ever written down.
Msg #20272 Dated 11:02:21 09-23-91 20258 <--> 20275
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Yay, close but no cigar. Great concept. I told him to throw away
the tux. A guy on stage playing with kites in a tux sux. He said,
what a wonderful idea (oh, I told him to wear knickers, a cap on
his head sideways... dress in COSTUME, like a turn of the century
KID playing with kites would look). His pal and wife said they
agreed and will start the search for the clothes.
.
The closing effect made no sense. A box kite flying around like the
Okito Floating Ball.... but then I came up with this....
.
I told him that it was missing something... what he needed to do
was to have the kite ON A STRING. Kite is on floor. He has a thick
white (so it can be seen good) string on the kite. He tugs on the
string -- it is indoors and there is NO WIND -- and suddenly the
kite rises up.... NO WIND.... and it flies.... HE MUST HOLD ONTO
A STRING, COMING DOWN TO HIM.... this makes it LOGICAL.... he
was blown away and couldn't believe he did not think of it....
.
Also the string will distract the eye and the mind. IT will no
longer look like the floating ball.
.
He also needs to find better thread. He did not know the real work,
and also did not know about dying it in spurts to break up the
line look.
Msg #20273 Dated 11:02:47 09-23-91 20261 <--> 20333
From: PETE BIRO
To: MICHAEL AMMAR (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Doesn't it ALWAYS depend on the routine and more... the PERFORMER.
How many times have we seen some dumb trick that we didn't think
was worth a hoot KILL US when done by the RIGHT PERFORMER!
.
The Homing Card in Fred Kaps' hands. The Bra Trick by Sheets.
The Six Card Repeat by Mike Finney and/or Tim Ellis (at FISM).
Msg #20274 Dated 11:02:55 09-23-91 -> 20283
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: GARBO?
Ee;20261
On page 199, of Goldston's Locked "More Exclusive Magical Secrets"
is the details and description of a small rabbit through a mirror.
It sounds exactly like Garbo, the Howard De Courcy effect.
The mirror is round, and stands in a frame, so your hands are free.
There is a small shelf on each side. The Rabbit (in the Garbo
version it was a small bird, a canary) is in a little box. You
put it on the shelf on one side, revolve the mirror around to
show the other side and there is another little shelf. You place
an empty (it is) box on that shelf. Say the Magic Words "Nesral
Eneri" (Irene Larsen backwards) and the bunny, or bird, or Gherbil?
is on the other side in the box. The mojo operator also sticks his
can in one box and it comes out the other side....
The affus gaffus is the mirror is round and it rotates so the
hole is hidden by the little shelf.
The secret is that the mirror reflection will stay still as
the mirror is rotated.
.
Also, I did not find any glass penetration in Hopkins' 20th
Century Magic. Is there another Hopkins? I have the 1st ed, the one
with the great vanishing elephant -- where it melts to vanish.
Let me know what Hopkins you is talking on.
Msg #20275 Dated 11:03:20 09-23-91 20258 <--> 20282
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
EL TAB...
Just went back and looked at my Hopkins. It is dated 1898 and I also
found a new reprint of another Hopkins that is about 12 times bigger
and has all kinds of stuff different. Is the ARNO Edition. But I
did not see a glass penetration in there either. Is there a 3rd
Hopkins? Or am I blind?
.
Here is a thought. You show a picture frame with glass in it and
the picture is of yourself (whoever is doing the trick). Tell 'em
that not only can I do magic, but my picture can too.
.
So you stick the frame and picture into an envelope. Reach your
hand through the paper and do whatever (you could have one of the
chips that makes sound of glass breaking -- remember the hammer
Sylvester used in Balto? -- timed to the action.) Then when you
bring out the pic, it and glass in one piece?
.
Don't know how to do it... but someone will figger it out...
.
Might ditch the glass and pic ala slate flap? Switch stuff? Mhhh.
.
Much to ponder.
.
I also noted a few Crossbow tricks in the Locked Books. I have the
Msg #20276 Dated 11:03:57 09-23-91 -> 20284
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Last message was not all thre.
End should be "I have the full set of three locked books but only two
keys" so have never opened one of them... one of these days!" Bye
Msg #20277 Dated 11:19:45 09-23-91 20241 <--> 20281
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
As a soon-to-be tuxedo buyer (for my wedding), I'd like to log my
disagreement with your outrageous statement that the red tie and
cumberbund is obsolete, and that the vest is classier. The red tie may
be out, but the cumberbumd is infinitely superiior to the vest. In
fact, the thought of a vest with a tuxedo makes all within a mile
radius cringe. So there!
Msg #20278 Dated 11:23:40 09-23-91 20252 <-
From: EVAN KATZ
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: IS MAGIC NEXT?
Sounds neat. My only excuse for not reading it that I was ten years
old at the time.
Msg #20279 Dated 11:42:31 09-23-91 20266 <--> 20295
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
Actually the train ride sounds great. Does it leave early? How long
does it take?
Msg #20280 Dated 11:42:36 09-23-91 20269 <--> 20296
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
I've got Gravett's Thayer Instruction Sheets but they are a little
unclear on the modus oper. One of those "with apparatus in hand" sort
of discourses. If you have one, I'd like to take a look at it when I
visit your fair land in three weeks. That's the effect that got me
going on this building magic stuff when Howie seeing one of my
picture frames that I'd made to frame a Selbit poster remarked that i
t looked just like a large Thayer hankie frame. Those were thrilling
words, I must tell you since I had never seen the apparatus "not in
hand."
Msg #20281 Dated 11:42:47 09-23-91 20271 <--> 20285
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
It's true. I can look like a New York banker when I have to. Well,
maybe before I grew the hair out half way down my back. I guess I
look like a South American lawyer now.
Msg #20282 Dated 11:42:53 09-23-91 20272 <--> 20297
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
That's good. Maybe if he took a short run across the stage to get
the kite to "catch the wind" it would be even more convincing and the
n fly it out OVER THE AUDIENCE dressed in the costume you describe.
I would like to see that. I wonder if this fine steel wire might not
work.
Msg #20283 Dated 11:43:00 09-23-91 20274 <--> 20298
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GARBO?
The Hopkins is the other one, MAGIC and subtitled Stage Illusions and
Scientific Diversions. It is in there on page 20 something. Vanity
Fair. I am ashamed to say that it was right under my nose the entire
time. Don't have the Goldston book in question but will look 4ward to
seeing it when I come out.
Msg #20284 Dated 11:43:07 09-23-91 20276 <--> 20299
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Maybe Houdini can come by and pick the lock on the other locked book.
Saw some Collector's Workshop reprints for sale the other day at 225
for the set but when I called I was too late. Damn mail down here is
really bad. My Genii still hasn't come and Rudy has his five miles
down the road.
Msg #20285 Dated 11:43:14 09-23-91 20277 <--> 20291
From: TABBY CRABB
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
They try to sell you the red tie and cumberbund because they're over
stocked with them, Evan.
Msg #20291 Dated 13:15:46 09-23-91 20271 <--> 20292
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Apropo to the Koran comment -
I finally tracked down one of the last copies of T A's Encyclopedia
today. (Yeah, I'm ashamed to admit I didn't have a copy). As the
clerk was writing it up he said, "You sure this is the book you were
looking for? There are no tricks in it."
Msg #20292 Dated 13:18:28 09-23-91 20291 <--> 20293
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Whaddya spect? No tricks. Who needs trix? I need money. Bye... oh,
possible gooooood news. A guy just phones and told me a new car
magizine is starting up and tahey want me involved... i sure hpe so.
Having lunch Thursday. Funny, the guy that recommended me was a phtog
I had not seen in 15 years AND WAS THE GUT I DID THE JONATHAN WINTERS
ALBUM COVER FOR!!!!!!!!!!!
Msg #20293 Dated 13:18:32 09-23-91 20285 <--> 20294
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I prefer a black tie and cumberbund, no vest. Best jackets are ones
Karrel Fox has, but you gotta cut 'em down.
Msg #20294 Dated 13:19:54 09-23-91 20277 <--> 20301
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Depends on the size body the vest is trying to withold! Ruffled
shirts are definitely out too.
Msg #20295 Dated 13:20:03 09-23-91 20279 <--> 20313
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
It should be in any travel agent's AMTRAK sked book.
Msg #20296 Dated 13:20:07 09-23-91 20280 <--> 20314
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
It is simple as all get out. Just a sliding piece.
Msg #20297 Dated 13:20:11 09-23-91 20282 <--> 20315
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Have thought about the fine stuff for the Nemo Rising cards, but
not the wire... will look at it. Have you tried the camo dyeing
of wire? I know the old Thurston Keller days found them using blue
like to blue guns.
Msg #20298 Dated 13:20:17 09-23-91 20283 <--> 20316
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: GARBO?
Now will go re-look at page 20 something. Sounds like a good song
title.
Msg #20299 Dated 13:20:22 09-23-91 20284 <--> 20317
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
You just reminded me... Joe Stevens has the locked reprints, I bet
ter phone him now and reserve a set... wheeesh... maybe 2 sets?
Msg #20301 Dated 13:26:17 09-23-91 20292 <--> 20309
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Good luck on magazine deal. Just make sure they got money! Serious!
I've gotten offers from guys who have enough to do the first issue -
they figure it will be a big hit and...
Msg #20303 Dated 14:16:12 09-23-91 -> 20325
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KAPS IN US
MAGIC!-NL Mon 23 Sep 91 20:20
Arnaud Van.Rietschoten posted the following msg:
Pete...or David L....
Since the Kaps appearance in de Sullivan show was mentioned here
lately I wonder if the Kaps letters do contain any information
from that period. Does he mention how HE liked the shows, does he
mention any other experiences during those visits. I remember
from the dutch magazins from that period that his performance
were very successful but that can be an non-objective report.
---
* Origin: MAGIC!-NL, Home of the wizards, +31-23-388725 (2:0/0)
---
Msg #20309 Dated 15:45:45 09-23-91 20292 <--> 20311
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Wow, talk about a magic coincidence. Just as we were talking about
the Winter's album cover project. Holy smoke! That's the kind of news
I like hearing.
Msg #20310 Dated 15:45:50 09-23-91 -> 20327
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISING FOR TUXEDOS
Ee;20292
Sitting here playing with some stuff from the Berg Book while waiting
for Julian, our atty to call. I'm getting pretty busy now and
realized what a blessing the past two years of having lots of time
on my hands have been. Feels good, though.
Msg #20311 Dated 15:46:00 09-23-91 20293 <--> 20312
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I don't have a vest and just burned my red tie and cumberbund though
have the black stuff too. have antique gold studs, etc which were
my grandad Bulldog Crowson's and have a "C" engraved inem (convenient
huh?). Have gotten tooooooo fat to wear comfortably but have been opn
a diet (no money or time to eat) so maybe will get in shape one more
time. Shall we wear tuxedos to the Castle for dinner on the 8th?
I sure hope NOT. I had a Korean tailor line the jacket in red silk
and stitch my initials on an inside pocket. There is an area in Souel
where they can make any thing of cloth and thread that you can imagin
Called (and I have no idea how to spell, only say) "Ee Tay Won"
district. Worth stopping by if you are cruising the far east. Patsy
Lynn just called, she is singer I write with, and is leaving on DOD
tour of far east. Korea is a week so she'd have time to get some
stuff made up. Costumes, etc. Oh well. I have no plans of going to
Korea any time soon unless the Biro FISM Tour 1994 stops by Souel
for a McDonalds Fajita.
Msg #20312 Dated 15:46:16 09-23-91 20294 <--> 20318
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Is a Polo shirt in with a tuxedo yet?
Msg #20313 Dated 15:46:20 09-23-91 20295 <--> 20408
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
Yeah, you're right. I'm pretty stupid these days but am pretty one
track minded trying to tie up all loose ends before trip west.
Msg #20314 Dated 15:46:27 09-23-91 20296 <--> 20416
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
Sounds like you've got just what I'm looking for. Mark it so I can
take a look when I get there on the 13th. Thanks]
Msg #20315 Dated 15:46:32 09-23-91 20297 <--> 20329
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
I've got the spool of it on the work bench, but besides that small
spindle I sent you I haven't had time to mess with it. I figure if
you could wash it in a bath of gun blueing or maybe better "browning"
and then stretch it out and hitting it with a fine mist alternately
of flat black out of an airbrush you might get it close for
a theater hookup. Idealy you could spray the wire to fit the ceiling
of each venue. This is certainly something Fu Manchu and Edmond
Spreer would of done. They didn't mind working all day to get the
night's show ready. They were really into being magicians. Have you
read _Illusion Show_? Lighting gotta be just right on above wire
work though. I really like that kite flying idea. That's pretty
neat, and so logical. It makes perfect sense. Man, he oughta do
Franklin's key bit and have lightnihg strike the kite with the
resultant glow first lighting the key and then the performer just
before he takes his bows. That would be a lot of fun. I just got one
of the metal Funkenrings from JS. How do you get the batteries in the
darn thing? (k) or (S) depending on who is reading over your shoulder
I think I'll wind it up and go down to the shop and pick up a
piece of wood and have some fun. Bye.
Msg #20316 Dated 15:46:52 09-23-91 20298 <--> 20330
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GARBO?
Look in the indx under Vanity Fair. It's on page 26 I think. Has a
great explanation. No wonder Steinmeyer says it is one of the top
five references for him along with Harbin, Jarrett, Devant. I guess
it was top FOUR books. Yeah, that's it. Top 4. Devant's Secrets of..
Msg #20317 Dated 15:46:58 09-23-91 20299 <--> 20331
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I think the set of reprints is around 400 bucks. The set for 225
used looked mighty good to me. 400 is too steep right now. Have
200 in books coming in from Charlie next week. Will have to wait.
Am sure another set will turn up on a used list. Would prob make a
good investment to hold five sets for ten years or so though. Wish I
had the loose cash to buy some up, the Thurston book too will be wort
h a couple hundred or more in five years. maybe more in mint conditio
n. Like you said, I rich in friends right? Who needs all the books
in the world, but the ready reference is nice and will get them all s
ooner or later. Gloria brings my dinner on a tray in here now, but at
least she knows where I am these days. I used the damn funkenring
twice and it broke already. How do you move the flint down. Is it
that little screw?
Msg #20318 Dated 15:47:11 09-23-91 20301 <--> 20321
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Just adopt Doc Eason's first law which he teaches at his SUPER magic
lectures. Doc will be at IBM in SCL so watch out!!! Doc's first law
is, and I quote, "GET THE F'ING MONEY!" Doc is famous for his through
a ceiling $100 bill fan card toss. Anyway, the card and the hundred
stick to the ceiling after throwing deck through fan blades. Cheeees,
it's harder to say than it is to do. "GTFM" Remember that always. Doc
is a super hip guy and I'm glad to see that he's on the bill for IBM
next big show.
Msg #20321 Dated 15:55:14 09-23-91 20311 <--> 20322
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Heard a funny story about the Ee Tay Won once. A guy brought his
favorite shirt over and had them duplicate a dozen of 'em for him.
Only he forgot to tell 'em not to duplicate the cigarette burn hole on
the front...
When I was in radio, my nom de air was David Mann. One of my listeners
once sent me a gift of a beautiful set of monogrammed handkerchiefs.
Wonder if Max would like 'em?
Msg #20322 Dated 15:59:36 09-23-91 20318 <--> 20323
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Doc's got his head on straight. When it comes to business, I've always
had the same rule. I'm looking forward to his SLC show too.
Msg #20323 Dated 17:31:01 09-23-91 20293 <--> 20324
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Karrell Fox jackets? Whoosh... where is your taste?
Msg #20324 Dated 17:31:06 09-23-91 20301 <--> 20328
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
They currently publish a computer magazine... MICRO TIMES. Ever
heard of it?
Msg #20325 Dated 17:31:13 09-23-91 20303 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: KAPS IN US
I do not recall any mention of the Sullivan shows in the Kaps
letters. Sorry.
Msg #20327 Dated 17:31:32 09-23-91 20310 <--> 20337
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISING FOR TUXEDOS
I can dig it... read my message about possible JOB to Frog... I hope
it comes thru and is part time... NEED IT... MON FRERE...
Msg #20328 Dated 17:31:37 09-23-91 20312 <--> 20332
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Tennis shoes are ONLY IF YOU ARE A LETTERMAN FAN. Polo shirts, NO,
but horizontally striped T-shirts (no words on 'em) are fine.
Msg #20329 Dated 17:31:43 09-23-91 20315 <--> 20339
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
There is a better way to do the Funkenring... 20 times the sparks.
Got it from Theater Effects. I had Funkenrings when they first came
out and musta wore out a dozen of them... But this new set up
is a killer. Have not tried it in my electric gaff (the one I set
fire to my arm with when it went off in side my sleeve) but the
hand held one is just fine. Flicks it with a little flint wheel.
Sparks fly like crazeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Msg #20330 Dated 17:31:52 09-23-91 20316 <--> 20340
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: GARBO?
URGENT FOR ALL THAT READ THIS... I AM LOOKING FOR A COPY OF THE
FIRST VOLUME OF THE RECENTLY RE-PRINTED LOCKED GOLDSTON BOOKS.
Have 2-3-4 but no got No. 1... help me if you can. (Another great
song title).
Msg #20331 Dated 17:32:00 09-23-91 20317 <--> 20341
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Who has teh books for 225 used? Where what quick... argh
Toss the funkengring away... get what I got... show you soon.
Msg #20332 Dated 17:32:06 09-23-91 20318 <--> 20335
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
o-I guess I better send him an iron clad contract so he will get the
blinking money.... har....
Msg #20333 Dated 17:34:02 09-23-91 20273 <--> 20364
From: MICHAEL AMMAR
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
And the Card Stab by Sheets, as well!
Msg #20335 Dated 18:07:46 09-23-91 20321 <--> 20338
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I was once manager of The Natl Boychoir of America and they asked me
to change my name since Tabby Crabb was too wierd for em so I called
myself NIGEL STEWART girl I had working for me at the time was
made up name too....Patricia Vandemere. Lobo, when he was promoting
records had ten - 12 names he used to call music directors with. He
was a genius and made millions with a guitar and some song magic.
Msg #20337 Dated 18:08:01 09-23-91 20327 <--> 20366
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISING FOR TUXEDOS
Yeah, it will profbably (the new mag) work out great and not overlap
with other stuff you do. I think it's great when things come out of
left field like that. I got a good call today too. Things are
progressing.
Msg #20338 Dated 18:08:08 09-23-91 20328 <--> 20342
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
On the horizontal strifped t-shirts, is there a limit to stripe
width or can the t-shirt be one wide stripe?
Msg #20339 Dated 18:08:13 09-23-91 20329 <--> 20354
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Heck, my stupid Funkenring didn't last a minute. That's about four
bucks a flash. Twenty times the sparks sounds good. Theater Effects
is just a few miles from here in hagesrstown.
Msg #20340 Dated 18:08:19 09-23-91 20330 <--> 20369
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GARBO?
Ron Allesi had vol 1 on his last list. You might give him a call.
His ## is on the stuff I sent you a while back. Probably gone
though, but you never know.
Msg #20341 Dated 18:08:24 09-23-91 20331 <--> 20349
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
See previous message re: who, where....Funkenring tossed in junk box
in shop where I'll cut it open someday and see what quit on it.
Msg #20342 Dated 18:08:29 09-23-91 20332 <--> 20346
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
blinking is a much better word. Thank you.
Msg #20343 Dated 19:03:30 09-23-91 19443 <--> 20345
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
That's good, there's always the November meeting, held a day earlier,
due to a shceduled convention at the hilton (12th instead of 13th). Of
ourse, instead of the meetings, you could always go any Wednesday for
the food & magic....
Msg #20344 Dated 19:05:40 09-23-91 19450 <-
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ERROR
I know what that's like. That's OK, though. The phone bills usually
wake me up.
Msg #20345 Dated 19:06:43 09-23-91 19493 <--> 20350
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
Good point (or, From another planet point). Hmmm, we (SAM #112) are
trying to "interclub" with #72 in Sacramento. Maybe we could get the
Sacramento Hilton (assuming there is one) interested...
Msg #20346 Dated 19:54:03 09-23-91 20323 <--> 20347
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I think that Karrell Fox has excellent sartorial judgement. Actually,
I used to wear jackets very much like those. But I gave 'em up when I
became a conservative.
Msg #20347 Dated 19:55:55 09-23-91 20324 <--> 20348
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Yeah - Have heard of and even seen Micro Times. Don't get it on a
regular basis though. Still would check 'em out at the local bank,
etc.
Msg #20348 Dated 19:58:04 09-23-91 20335 <--> 20351
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Ten or twelve names - Geez - I think I'm down to about five now. Since
my name is complex, I always use simple names when making resturant
reservations. But once made the mistake of using David Lee in a
Chinese resturant - they called "Lee, party of 6" and the entire
waiting room stood up.
Msg #20349 Dated 20:02:24 09-23-91 20341 <--> 20359
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I had same problem with Jay Scott Berry thumb flash - could never get
it to work right. And broke it on about 4th attempt.
Msg #20350 Dated 20:04:36 09-23-91 20345 <--> 20371
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
I'll be that there is some kind of Hilton internal news letter - a
"praise piece" for the magic at the Concord Hilton wouldn't hurt other
groups trying to do the same thing. Maybe ask the general manager once
you've got a few good Wednesday nights under the groups belt.
Msg #20351 Dated 20:03:21 09-23-91 20241 <--> 20352
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I am an easy fit for clothes but I'm sure you're right about a mail
order fit not being as good as a tailor fit. Spending several hundred
or more dollars on a tux shouldn't be squandered on a lousy fit. I'll
check out some local clothiers. Thanks for the advice.
Msg #20352 Dated 20:06:30 09-23-91 20351 <--> 20353
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
There is some kind of place here in L.A. that is supposed to be a great
discount tuxedo place. Ron Bieber, a MAGIC! member who doesn't sign on
often enough knows about it. You could try leaving him a message or
ask him next time he's at a Castle lecture - he was standing to my left
on Sunday when we were talking about your button.
Msg #20353 Dated 20:06:15 09-23-91 20257 <--> 20358
From: STAN LAKE
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I'll get as much as I can afford and then some. I like the idea of
buying a first rate tux or anything else for that matter. Generally
you DO get what you pay for and a well made and tailored tux will last
me many, many years.
The worst thing that could happen is to hear- "Well, his show wasn'
so hot but he sure looked good!"
Msg #20354 Dated 20:26:05 09-23-91 20329 <--> 20361
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Could you please give a little more info on Theater Effects? Address
or phone number? How much for the turbo charged funkenring?
Msg #20357 Dated 20:50:23 09-23-91 -> 20362
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: SHIGEO FUTAGAWA'S LECTURE
(I tried to upload this after the lecture yesterday but I
couldn't make it work. Thanks for the help Dr. Lichtman!)
.
Just got back from a lecture by Shigeo Futagwa at the Magic
Castle. Luminaries included John Carney, Daryl, our Sysop,
TA Waters, Ron Bieber and Jerry Burton but since our members
haven't posted a report yet I will put in my several cents
worth.
I've enjoyed his book "Introduction to Coin Magic" for some
years now. In fact I used some of the routines in it for my
Castle audition and it served me well. It's a good addition
to a coin library and he was selling it for less now than I
paid for it a few years back.
Mr. Futagawa's lecture was interesting and on a scale of one
to ten I would give it a 6 and a half. He was soft spoken in
his heavily accented English but his demonstrations were easy
and clear enough to understand without too much verbage
necessary. Actually there was too much verbage but not by
Mr. Futagawa. Mr. Arnold Furst was trying to help interpret
the explanations for everyone but he was more of an
interrupting annoyance.
He began with a rope routine making knots appear and
disappear. One nice part of the routine which fooled
everyone was when he had a straight rope held between his
hands in front of him, he threw it over his head still
holding on to the ends like a jump rope and when he brought
it back in view by stepping through it, it then had a knot
tied in it. So it was like a slow motion jump rope move.
Nice misdirection. He also did his version of professors
nightmare where the rope seems to end up in one long piece
with the knots sliding off. Nicely done. He explained each
of his tricks after he performed them.
He next turned to cards, faro shuffling them and without
squaring them all the way he flicked the aces out of the
deck. He didn't explain that move but either everyone knew
it or those that didn't know didn't care to. I think it is
a nice flourish for laymen. He took the four aces, mixed
them and then found them by spelling them out.
BORING!.
He showed us a nice move that he devised after reading
"Imagication". The effect is a chosen card is replaced in
the deck, the deck is dropped in the case but the chosen card
doesn't drop, it juts out at a 45 degree angle from the case.
He showed a couple of uses for a shiner he was selling to
mentally reveal a selction or to have a spectator tell you to
stop you any time as you deal and that card is the selection.
He showed a self working 24 card set up that allows you to
spell out a card mentally noted by the spectator as you fan
the deck. Something for everyone today.
He had a nice silver coin production from a dollar bill.
Just when I thought he was explaining how he made one coin
appear he made two. When he was explaining how he made two
appear he made four! I think he surprised most everyone with
that. Another coin trick was a simple coin transposition
when one is apparently securely wrapped up in paper. An old
principal with a new use.
A surprising "Ooh and Aah" came at the end of this next one.
He made a pyramid with ten coins laid flat on the table. 4
then 3 then 2 then 1 in the shape of a pyramid. He had Daryl
up to help and covered the rows from view one at a time with
a folder and had Daryl say how many he could see at each
stage. When he had them all covered he said he would try to
turn the pyramid around.
After some mental exertion he uncovered the coins and indeed,
the pyramid was pointed the other way! I liked that.
Mental spoon bending was next and the spoon was tossed out
into the audience for inspection. That was an $8 trick and I
think he sold more than a few of them.
Showed us a self working card trick prediction that was one
of if not THE most longwinded, drawn-out, boring card tricks
I have yet to suffer through. And I like card tricks!
Lastly he showed us a real cute and clever item. He says
people ask him how he does his sleight of hand. (He has his
hands cupped in front of him). He slowly opens his hand and
a miniature hand pops into view and moves a bit. He then
vanishes the miniature hand as suddenly as it appeared.
Jerry Burton showed me a great handling for it after the show
where the hand grabs a coin off of his hand and vanishes with
it like those old piggy banks that would grab a coin and
vanish with it. That was a $6 item and was very popular.
That's about it from my perspective. A good but not great
show. Bordering on a dealer demo but he did impart some
clever ideas. I made a new friend who will be signing on to
Magic! so all in all it was a very worthwhile afternoon.
Msg #20358 Dated 20:53:56 09-23-91 20348 <--> 20360
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I often use Colonel Avery Beaumont in restaurants. Used Bobby Holiday
as a telephone promoter, TC Roberts in the music business, and
even Kathy Kelly to screen my mail but it all boils down to the
tabman which the rock and roll boys all call me now. "Here comes the
tabman." Somehow, it's the only one I'm really comfortable with but
I sometimes get some starts when calling someone I don't know. I say,
"Tellem it's the tabman on the line."
Msg #20359 Dated 20:54:06 09-23-91 20349 <--> 20363
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I took the Funkenring apart and the flint wheel had come loose from
the spindle shaft. Piece of junk. Oh well, live and learn. I might
send it back but what would I get? Another Funkenring? Dunno. Will
wait to see Pete's Funkenblaster. I want to build a little box and
have sparks shoot out when the lid is opened. Seemed like a good idea
huh?
Msg #20360 Dated 20:54:14 09-23-91 20353 <--> 20367
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I think you know what you're doing, Stan. You have exhibited a lot
of sticktoitiveness with magic. Just make sure when you buy your tux
that you don't gain or loose a bunch of weight (if I remember right,
you couldn't stand to LOOSE much, but still) and don't wear a red
cumberbund. Now, a rich purple, I wonder what Pete would say about
that? Sounds right for the tabman, though it would clash with the
red lining in my jacket. Just do what makes YOU feel the best. I
think most of know on the gut level just what works. A reputable
clothier would be the best choice, I think. I did buy a blazer at
a place called Sam's Suits the last time I was in Vegas but the
cab driver didn't speak much English and it was the best we could do.
Got black so it would look good with my pink golf cap. Just ramblin,
4give me.
Msg #20361 Dated 20:54:28 09-23-91 20354 <--> 20368
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
You could probably get their number by calling (301) information
for Hagerstown. They've got a pretty good catalog and publish a
spiral bound called _Special Effects with Fire and Smoke_.
Msg #20362 Dated 21:29:23 09-23-91 20357 <--> 20397
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SHIGEO FUTAGAWA'S LECTURE
Thanks for the review. I know Arnold always TRIES, but isn't really any
help. Sounds like he has enough GOOD STUFF to warrant seeing. He was
my Interpreter for my last lecture in Japan. Nice guy.
Msg #20363 Dated 21:31:33 09-23-91 20359 <--> 20370
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Why didn't you tell me. You need to see what the Hot Book is built
like. One more to check out when you is here.... Theater Effects
stuff will do it. Just get an old Zippo and modify, or wait til here.
Msg #20364 Dated 21:32:41 09-23-91 20333 <--> 20645
From: PETE BIRO
To: MICHAEL AMMAR (X)
Re: MAGIC CIRCLE
Actually anything SheetMan does is great! The kid is gooooooood!
Msg #20366 Dated 21:32:52 09-23-91 20337 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISING FOR TUXEDOS
I cointanly hope sooooooooooooo!
Msg #20367 Dated 21:32:56 09-23-91 20338 <--> 20372
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Stripe(s) = Plural mon ami, plural... 4-inch dark blue on black
is very cool.
Msg #20368 Dated 21:33:02 09-23-91 20339 <--> 20378
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Actually you get a small fingertip flashpot. Put cotton wool into
it (not too much) and then a MINUTE, SUPER TINY AMOUNT of some
kind of S P A R K L E stuff... thasssall bro... and you got the
killerest Funkenring effect they is... If you do go there, would
you get me a supply of the wool and sparkle? You want official
names (I go look) -- OK, 'tis FLASH COTTON, and Sparkle Additive.
You don't need much. I just put in less than what stuck to my
fingertip - I mean just touch fingertip to it and what sticks is
MORE THAN ENUF. Put it on the wool. Set it off and scared the weeee
outa meeeee...
.
Looks like I only need a couple of packets of Flash Wool and the
smallest amount of Sparkle they got. If you don't go there, no big
deal, I have enough for six months... just always worry stuff goes
off the market!
.
Someone else on board asked about this stuff... so hope you all read
this. They advertise in Linking Ring. The stuff I just looked at
did not have an address on it.
.
But Tamban knoww... tam ban? hmmmmm typeman here... ahrk
Msg #20369 Dated 21:33:26 09-23-91 20340 <--> 20435
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: GARBO?
I have just come to my senses... I got the Originals what do I
want to waste dough on the fakes for???? Sheeesh....
Msg #20370 Dated 21:33:31 09-23-91 20341 <--> 20374
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I think its quality quit! Har.... I have some electric flash devices
here but no batteries right now to test... tsk
Msg #20371 Dated 21:33:37 09-23-91 20343 <--> 20384
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
Will try to be hungry.
Msg #20372 Dated 21:33:41 09-23-91 20346 <--> 20373
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I forgot... you wear bright green pants! Argh... ;-)
Msg #20373 Dated 21:33:46 09-23-91 20348 <--> 20375
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
That is a lie. Sports Illustrated always used the code name JACK
FOX, as it was almost impossible to mispronounce and spell wrong.
.
I have a pal that has "senator" on his biz cards, get seated at
restaurants real quick alla time. (Uses fake out of state address).
Msg #20374 Dated 21:33:55 09-23-91 20349 <--> 20387
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Much of his stuff ain't toooo quality.... tsk.... ask Dante L.
Msg #20375 Dated 21:34:00 09-23-91 20351 <--> 20376
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Billy McComb told me of a place in Hollywood that has all kinds of
great outfits that have been used once in movies or on TV that are
available very reasonably priced.
.
I bought a tux, a velvet suit and a sporty suit at a place like
that in London awhile back for $80 apiece. OK, it was 30 years ago.
Msg #20376 Dated 21:34:10 09-23-91 20352 <--> 20377
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I recall the place... now, I had to go there once to buy a better
hand tied bow tie... It is on Either Hollywood Blvd, or Sunset,
about a mile or so from the Castle toward Japan. On south side of
the street. Big store front.
Msg #20377 Dated 21:34:18 09-23-91 20353 <--> 20380
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Whoa.... I thoght you wanted the TUX for social events? Hey, if
you are performing you might just think KILLER DARK BLUE SUIT...
Then you won't look like a waiter. Depends on where you work.
Comedy Club? Then get EXPENSIVE LEVIs and tailored blue shirt
with killer sweater.
Msg #20378 Dated 21:34:27 09-23-91 20354 <--> 20434
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
Stan, it is not a Funkeknring... I use a fingertip flashpot (just
a small tube with a flint wheel) you put flash wool in it and a
tiny tiny tiny amount of sparkle additive.
.
Tabby knows where they are. They advertise in the Linking Ring.
ARe in Hagerstown, Maryland... thass as close as I can get you.
.
I just looked in my current L.R. and they don't have the ad, lemme
go see if I have another one in the Library.... argh.... Can't find
but ask Tabby...
Msg #20380 Dated 21:35:08 09-23-91 20335 <--> 20382
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
We had a guy drive a race car for us once who had a lousy first
name (for PR) and we named him NIGEL BATES. I promised him I could
get his picture in Sports Illustrated.
.
So, big race indoors at Houston Astrodome... the Sports Illustrated
guys show up... being pals, we all have dinner. Bates is stoked.
Too much... next morning in practice he is flying. He flies right
over the fence and into an EMTPY grandstand.
.
Hey, the picture made S.I.
Msg #20382 Dated 21:35:35 09-23-91 20338 <--> 20383
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Your finger on the f key seems busy or stuck tonight. ARgh...
Msg #20383 Dated 21:35:40 09-23-91 20342 <--> 20385
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I like the Brit term, "Bleeding"... undestand Red Foxx on his new
TV show (not seenit yet) says MOTHERFATHER a lot. Hmmmm subtle...
Msg #20384 Dated 21:35:47 09-23-91 20343 <--> 20570
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
Man, I got one calender sytem in one computer, another in the laptop
and one on the wall and I don't know which one to believe! ARgh.
Note: A true ARgh is not Argh (note the cap R).
Msg #20385 Dated 21:35:53 09-23-91 20346 <--> 20386
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
A conservative what?
Msg #20386 Dated 21:35:59 09-23-91 20348 <--> 20388
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
You really meant all the PEOPLE in the room stood up, right?
We used to call Lee Tai King, Lee Tai King. But later found out
we were wrong and it was Tai King Lee. Actually we called him
Charlie Chan.
.
He was a great guy, real chinese artist, did stuff we never had
seen, the famed Popcorn trick (secret went with him to his grave).
.
Jimmy Kwong (Sat. Night) did a killer with rice. Put a cup of Rice
in a saucepan. Added water (?) and put a lid on it. OK, it was
a gaffed lid, but the pan looked like a real kitchen sauce pan with
a handle andthe lid was not thick.
.
He had a kid hold in his hands, one hand on handle, the other hand
below, flat under the pan against bottom.
.
Suddenly the bottom got real hot. He tried another kid and the kid
pulled his hand away saying it was too hot.
.
When he lifted the lid, there was STEAMING COOKED RICE. He spooned
some out.
.
VERY EFFECTIVE. He says he will teach me the popcorn trick. I will
go to see him for that. It was my favorite trick years ago.
Msg #20387 Dated 21:36:26 09-23-91 20349 <--> 20398
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Send the Thumb Flash to me when you return the tapes. Have you seen
'em yet? Are you holding back your review? Huh???? Huh????
I am nervous.... argh er, ARgh? I will look at the thumb flash and
see what can be subbed or fixed.
Msg #20388 Dated 21:36:34 09-23-91 20351 <--> 20389
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
You also might try C&R. Sometimes they have good stuff IN STYLE.
IN STYLE IS MOST IMORTANT. LOOK IN THE MENS MAGAZINES FIRST.
Msg #20389 Dated 21:36:41 09-23-91 20353 <--> 20390
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
One more thought. Don't go for anything radical if you want it to
stay in style more than a year.
Msg #20390 Dated 22:10:37 09-23-91 20358 <--> 20391
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Colonel Avery Beaumont would go over well in the South - here it'd just
get a blank stare. Periodically I remind people that Nathan Daniel is
named after a famous Southern general. I use a couple for mail
screens. Also, for a couple of my friends I'm "seeded" onto their
mailing list and let 'em know if someone has used it when they
shouldn't. Problem is that lately they want to see a driver's license
to go with a credit card and it gets complex.
Msg #20391 Dated 22:14:29 09-23-91 20372 <--> 20392
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
My green pants are a particular, exclusive shade of green. They are
made for me by Mays of Michigan. I wear 'em 'cause they go so well
with my pink shirts. Haven't applied 'em to too many new shirts, but
I do have my own Frog logos instead of those alligators and stuff.
Msg #20392 Dated 22:16:59 09-23-91 20373 <--> 20393
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
The David Lee story is NO LIE. Immediately changed it to something
else (Hah, if I'm telling you!). Jack Fox ain't bad.
Msg #20393 Dated 22:19:09 09-23-91 20376 <--> 20394
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
The place I know of, but can't remember the name of, is in Beverly
Hills. It is on a second floor and you have to be introduced by
someone who shops there.
Msg #20394 Dated 22:21:46 09-23-91 20385 <--> 20395
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Conservative dresser. I don't wear loud plaids and stuff like that any
more.
Msg #20395 Dated 22:23:23 09-23-91 20386 <--> 20415
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Cooked rice trick sounds pretty neat. Would like to see that one
sometime.
Msg #20397 Dated 22:30:37 09-23-91 20357 <--> 20412
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SHIGEO FUTAGAWA'S LECTURE
Thanks for your report, Stan. I concur very closely with your comments
and you said it better than I could have. I think that the pyramid bit
was worth the trip - I like it because it can be done impromptu (after
practice, of course) with spectator's coins and with any handy piece of
paper. I tried it with dimes and an origami square and it worked very
nicely. It DOES need some kind of padding though - not advisable on an
uncovered table. One thought - place a couple of napkins down first
and you have a really weird effect when the pyramid turns and the
napkins haven't moved!
Msg #20398 Dated 22:35:31 09-23-91 20359 <--> 20399
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Personally, I've always wanted to have a small tube implanted
subcutaneously up my arm and thru one of my fingers. Would allow me to
light cigarettes from a flame on my fingertip.
Sorry to hear about the cheaply made Funkenring - sounds like you
didn't get the shaft on that one.
Msg #20399 Dated 22:39:02 09-23-91 20374 <--> 20400
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
You is right. The flash is a good idea, just not built right. Thought
about doing an improved version, but never got around to it.
Msg #20400 Dated 22:40:13 09-23-91 20387 <--> 20431
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
School has a holiday this Mon/Tues and next Mon/Tues - so I have had
small magician around the house and while I think he would enjoy the
tapes, we've been busy working on his act for Sept. 29th. We've
finalized on the rope trick you suggested and a production box. Now
he's trying to get his entrances and exits and patter down right. Like
a lot of magi, he's got the trick down pat, just hasn't done all his
homework on the stage presence.
Msg #20404 Dated 23:26:35 09-23-91 20132 <--> 20462
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PENETRATION
Thanks for the info on the Butterfly
Production. Sounds wild.
Msg #20405 Dated 23:29:01 09-23-91 20139 <--> 20407
From: DANTE LARSEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NEW GENII
I wonder if car insurance covers broken windows
by cocoanuts?
Msg #20407 Dated 23:30:50 09-23-91 20405 <--> 20463
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: NEW GENII
It would have broken the windshield, had I been in a car. I was riding
a bicycle at the time of the coconut's rapid descent!
Msg #20408 Dated 23:51:10 09-23-91 20266 <--> 20409
From: MIKE KING
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
Righto chap!
Msg #20409 Dated 23:51:38 09-23-91 20279 <--> 20445
From: MIKE KING
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
I'm checking into it. But no matter what, I'll see ya in Vegas!!!!!
Msg #20412 Dated 0:16:43 09-24-91 20357 <--> 20417
From: EVAN KATZ
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SHIGEO FUTAGAWA'S LECTURE
T'anks for the review, Stan. Posting reviews is good. Candor is
good. Good yob.
Msg #20415 Dated 0:38:07 09-24-91 20335 <--> 20433
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I was once a member of the Columbus Boy's Choir; I was a soprano so
that must've been...WEEKS ago.
Msg #20416 Dated 0:46:23 09-24-91 20269 <--> 20467
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
The original, with the glass in the frame, was called FLEXIBLE GLASS
and was invented by Oswald Rae. Henning featured it (using a piece of
mirror) as a lead in to his Walking Through A Mirror illusion,
Msg #20417 Dated 0:53:56 09-24-91 20357 <--> 20458
From: T A WATERS
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SHIGEO FUTAGAWA'S LECTURE
Coupla things: the STOP part of the stop trick Futagawa showed was Max
Katz's -- appeared in Hugard's decades ago. The only thing added is
the use of the glim. And the card thing -- the boring one -- one of
the boring ones -- was Lorayne's Card Pyramid (in Decksterity I think),
which was inspired by a number effect handling of...mine.
Msg #20424 Dated 3:40:04 09-24-91 -> 20566
From: DOUG SMITH
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: THEATER EFFECTS
Theatre Effects
6 Frederick Street
Hagerstown, MD 21740
phone (301) 791-7646
Fax (301) 791-7719
Msg #20426 Dated 5:57:58 09-24-91 -> 20449
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DR. JAKS
Oh, one other thing, Bluemle is scheduled to give his Dr. Jaks
lecture next month at the Inn Event. So if you have any questions,
I'll pass 'em on.
Charlie
Msg #20429 Dated 5:59:49 09-24-91
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: ALL
Re: BENSAIZ
All this talk of Benzais reminded of some of his coin work. He had
some really clever ideas in his book, that you don't see anyone doing.
Charlie
Msg #20430 Dated 6:01:15 09-24-91 -> 20469
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PAGE, ETC.
1*e, what's the story on Phil's Dante book? Did you actually see one?
Also you mentioned Pat Page's address. Any chance I could get that.
I've been wanting to get some thumb tip information from him. Thanks.
Charlie
Msg #20431 Dated 6:54:28 09-24-91 20363 <--> 20436
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I'll wait til I get there and check it out.
Msg #20433 Dated 6:54:39 09-24-91 20367 <--> 20437
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
That's the kind of t-shirts with stripes we usta wear when we wuz
kids. I always liked em.
Msg #20434 Dated 6:54:47 09-24-91 20368 <--> 20470
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
One of the Bone Pony guys lives over near Hagerstown and the way
things are going they'd do just about anything for me. I'll get
Shotgun Jack, their road manager, to stop by and get some flash
cotton and sparkle powder for you.
Msg #20435 Dated 6:54:54 09-24-91 20369 <--> 20471
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GARBO?
Seriously, you're right. I was trying to get #2 of the fakes and
missed them. Good deal at 75 bux though.
Msg #20436 Dated 6:54:59 09-24-91 20370 <--> 20444
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I was building hand flashers for the rock boys to use with the
battery and glow plugs, etc. They do a great job using flash paper.
They're sort of a pain to make though.
Msg #20437 Dated 6:55:06 09-24-91 20373 <--> 20440
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
And there's always Michael Close, M.D.!!
Msg #20440 Dated 6:55:25 09-24-91 20380 <--> 20442
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I became TC Roberts because Mickey Gilley got the creeps saying
tabby crabb. During the dance scenes when I was on the floor with the
dancers they marked everybodies starting spot with gaffer and put
your initials onit. Hence TC. Worked out pretty well, though in
England they like my real nama of Tabby Crabb, "Jolly good name!"
Msg #20442 Dated 6:55:40 09-24-91 20383 <--> 20443
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Saw the new Foxx show and it is typical RF. I enjoyed it. Sorry
about the F key and will try to snap out of it. Have been in a rush
lately and my fingers have been outrunning my brain.
Msg #20443 Dated 6:55:47 09-24-91 20390 <--> 20447
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Well, if you're kiting hot checks a fake ID, etc would be good, but
since Col. Beaumont is only good in restaurants it works. When Glo
was in the US Army (she a Capt) I would call the duty desk and ask
for her. When they'd ask who's calling, I'd say Col. Beaumont and the
desk guy would snap to and take care of it quik.
Msg #20444 Dated 6:55:57 09-24-91 20398 <--> 20451
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I'll have to look, but I think the funkingring was about 15 bucks.
Am sorry I fell for it, but after Sylvester the jester and his
sparks from ears I had to take another look.
Msg #20445 Dated 6:56:03 09-24-91 20409 <--> 20521
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: RIDE TO VEGAS
That's great Mike. Will see you there at lances second show!!!
Msg #20447 Dated 6:56:12 09-24-91 20415 <--> 20452
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
The Columbus Boys' Choir is a good unit and still going. The Nat'l
Boychoir of Amer disbanded after some hanky panky with the director
but I saw it coming and pulled out before the sheet hit the fan. I
produced their Christmas 1987 album which almost got a grammy nom.
Couldn't play it in the house though as the high voices got my dogs
to howling and I couldn't stand the laughter as I was rolling on the
floor.
Msg #20449 Dated 6:56:27 09-24-91 20426 <--> 20450
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: DR. JAKS
So he is still doing the Dr. Jaks lecture? Ask him when the book is
coming out. That's wha I wanna know since I can't be there for the
lecture. There's a great photo of jaks in the Berg Book.
Msg #20450 Dated 8:33:28 09-24-91 20426 <--> 20479
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: DR. JAKS
Any chance you can do MAGIC! reports on the Inn Event, Charlie?
Msg #20451 Dated 8:37:24 09-24-91 20444 <--> 20459
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Hope you got "didn't get the shaft" as a pun on the broken shaft in
your ring.
Once, when I was a faculty member, the building was being remodeled and
at a faculty meeting, several of the professors wanted to know why an
elevator for the handicapped wasn't in the plans. The head of
buildings explained that an old building like ours wouldn't accomodate
a new elevator (we had a very small one) without a new shaft and that
that was expensive and would take money from the other plans. Several
felt that the new elevator was more important than a new office for the
Dean, etc. and were quite vocal about it. Finally, the building's guy
walked off the stage in disgust. As he was walking through the
auditorium, the faculty Chairman, a normally very reserved fellow,
said, "Do I take it that it is the view of this faculty that if they
are to get the shaft, it be a new one?"
Msg #20452 Dated 8:50:30 09-24-91 20443 <--> 20455
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Yeah! I'll bet the Col. got the Army's attention. By the way, I don't
recommend Dr. or M.D. - in hotels you'll get 3 a.m. calls for help. My
bro. is an M.D. and he travels as an engineer. Maybe will suggest to
him that he travel as a mage. None of my stuff has Dr. on it except
one passport case I was given as a gift and I have gotten a call or two
while using it.
Msg #20455 Dated 9:02:59 09-24-91 20393 <--> 20456
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
You mean like, "Ahem, Mr. Lichtman, I'd like you to meet a Green
Coat"? Argh... Hey, have you ever thought of trying to win the
Masters?
Msg #20456 Dated 9:03:06 09-24-91 20394 <--> 20457
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Honestly, I can't see anyone walking around in bright green pants
with shoulder length hair, looking like a marketing maven for Jolly
Green Giant, could be called CONSERVATIVE anything!!!!G;+)
Msg #20457 Dated 9:03:14 09-24-91 20395 <--> 20466
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Uncle Ben taught it to him.
Msg #20458 Dated 9:03:19 09-24-91 20397 <--> 20468
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHIGEO FUTAGAWA'S LECTURE
Sounds great. Also sounds like a great effect to use on a TABMAN
TABLE! Then you don't need the napkins.
Msg #20459 Dated 9:03:25 09-24-91 20398 <--> 20460
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
John Kennedy SELLS the tube that goes up your sleeve to light stuff.
Has a great release set up to a butane bottle hidden away. I know
'cause I is got one...;+)
Msg #20460 Dated 9:03:32 09-24-91 20400 <--> 20472
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Just don't tell he he is going to enter wearing a cape, OK?
Msg #20462 Dated 9:03:45 09-24-91 20404 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: PENETRATION
Sorry if I missed when I said Life Size. I meant HUGE, the size of
a person. I think there is a version where, from the Butterfly
Silk (it is cut the shape, not a square with picture), a person is
produced... 'er materialized.
.
Just ran into a mention of the Sub Trunk PRE DATING HOUDINI. Does
anyone know who created the effect? And was it before HH?
Msg #20463 Dated 9:03:56 09-24-91 20405 <--> 20464
From: PETE BIRO
To: DANTE LARSEN (X)
Re: NEW GENII
broken CAR windows are generally covered by the "Comprehensive",
but the deductible, if you went for a high one to keep your rate
down might not be enuf! Tsk ;-)
Msg #20464 Dated 9:04:05 09-24-91 20407 <--> 20514
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NEW GENII
And it only broke your glasses?
.
I was nearly killed by a railroad crossing barrier that came down
on me and my bicycle. The bell didn't ring and I didn't see it
coming down (from above)! I spent 40 years in traction. That is why
I never had a childhood.
Msg #20466 Dated 9:04:23 09-24-91 20415 <--> 20474
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I thought you used to wear your pants too tight.
Msg #20467 Dated 9:04:32 09-24-91 20416 <--> 20484
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
I thought it was from the U.K. However "Vanity Fair" as Tabman is
talking about is a full sized stage version a lady walks through.
Of course we all know that Goldston only GUESSED at most of the
methods he illustrated in his famed works.
Msg #20468 Dated 9:04:41 09-24-91 20417 <--> 20506
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: SHIGEO FUTAGAWA'S LECTURE
Max Katz, Ricky Jay's Grandfather, right?
Msg #20469 Dated 9:04:45 09-24-91 20430 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: PAGE, ETC.
Yep, Byron Walker has a few cartons of the Dante book and Phil
Temple gave one as a prize at the OMC show the other night.
Pat Page... here is a phone number (including the dialing code)
011 441-703-2505
It has been awhile... hope it works.
.
I know he still peddles his videos through Joe Stevens, mebbe he
can trace a number for you. He was partnered with Vic Pinto, but
I don't have his number.
.
I know I have the address in my 'OLD PHONE BOOK' but don't know
where I hid it!
Msg #20470 Dated 9:04:59 09-24-91 20434 <--> 20485
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
You are a true Prince. Prince Tabman? No, sounds too much like King
Ralph (maybe one of the worst pictures made this century).
.
Picture was so bad I had to sit (on airplane) with my head turned
90-degrees and handkerchief stuffed into little hole where the
toy speaker plugs into the armrest. Echargh... and Goodman is a
highschool pal of Jim Nagels.... argh ;+)
Msg #20471 Dated 9:05:10 09-24-91 20435 <--> 20486
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: GARBO?
Good deal at $100 each if yoiu don't got the real thing, BABY, UHUH
Msg #20472 Dated 9:05:14 09-24-91 20436 <--> 20478
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Yeah, and a pain to use if they go off in you sleeve like mine did.
Msg #20474 Dated 9:05:22 09-24-91 20440 <--> 20476
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Jolly Good you ol "Rotter" -- I like the Brit language... used to
be fairly good at it. Need to go back and recharge my word file.
Msg #20476 Dated 9:05:54 09-24-91 20442 <--> 20482
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
When my fingers get heavy it is the J key that gets it.
Msg #20478 Dated 9:05:58 09-24-91 20444 <--> 20481
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
If you think the Jester used Funkenrings you might be wrong. I
think he had some kind of really industrial strength items, like
the spark makers they use to start welding torches... maybe even
more as his sparks seemed to LAST LONGER. Maybe little electric
motors that kept the flint wheels turnin'... you know, Keep the
Wheels Turnin'... sounds like a good song title.
Msg #20479 Dated 9:06:09 09-24-91 20449 <--> 20493
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: DR. JAKS
And an even Greater Photo of a young mage, known as the Great
Carsoni (AKA JOHNNY CARSON)... Leno was brilliant last night with
Mike Wallace, the first guest.
.
Joe used to have a check from Johnny Carson framed on the wall of
his shop. Orsen Welles was a big customer of Berg.
.
I think it was Joe's shop the famed "DORNY" (or was it Crandall?)
Flash paper incedent took place. You know it? Here is brief.
.
Joe was "making" some flash paper. You dip it in something, then
let it lay out to dry. He had about 100 sheets of the flash paper
laying out on the counter tops of his place. Dorny (or was it
Crandall?) came in. Joe was in the back room. Dorny's (or was it
Crandall's) cigar was in full fire... you guessed it... ash hit
the paper and WHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
In a FLASH (pun intended) A L L T H E F L A S H P A P E R
burned and vanished ....
.
Joe came in from the back room and said, "Where the hell is all
my flash paper?"
.
Dorny (or was it Crandall) wryly said, "What flash paper, I didnt'
see no flash paper?"
Msg #20481 Dated 10:15:15 09-24-91 20451 <--> 20487
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Yes, I got the pun about the shaft but since it was so obvious I dint
(dint is didn't in Ricky Ricardo Cuban English) want to comment.
I was afraid to comment and think there should be a section just for
puns. I guess I left myself open for that one though, though it is
really a gearalated jimmyshammy - the one with the confabrolated
brass gears, you know that one. I think it was assembled in E. Ger.
Msg #20482 Dated 10:15:24 09-24-91 20452 <--> 20483
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
You've left yourself open now for a doctor joke, but I think I will
check.
Msg #20483 Dated 10:15:29 09-24-91 20456 <--> 20489
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Yeah, but the Frog is "bad" on the ameche.
Msg #20484 Dated 10:15:35 09-24-91 20467 <--> 20585
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: VANITY FAIR
Looks like Hopkins hit it pretty good with the method for Vanity Fair
though.
Msg #20485 Dated 10:15:40 09-24-91 20470 <--> 20526
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OMC ANNUAL SPAGHETTI FEE
I haven't seen King Ralph but you can't blame Goodman for making
hay while the sun shines. I think it's great. A big bear of a guy
who is raking in all these millions just on his awesome looks and
tremendous talent. You gotta admit, he's been good in Roseanne though
and carried the show for a while. I've gotten burnt out on it though
and only watch probrams about the greenhouse effect on PBS.
Msg #20486 Dated 10:15:48 09-24-91 20471 <--> 20527
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GARBO?
Yeah, they are a must have if you don't have the orig which go for
three times the price, but are readily available right now. Everybody
has six or seven of them on their lists right. How many copies of
each were printed. have any idea???
Msg #20487 Dated 10:15:56 09-24-91 20472 <--> 20492
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
We were on the road opening for Conway Twitty and he had/has this guy
named "Pork Chop" playing drums for him. Well we got to doing stuff
to the other band as Gilley was starting to have hits so we put smoke
pots around his drums and set them off during "Hello Darlin" conway's
opening number. He never missed a lick. probably thought it was smoik
from a barbecue. Was pretty funny anyway. We wired Gilley's piano
seat once so it would shock him and that was a MAJOR RIOT and he neve
r got it. He would be starting in some love ballad and JOLT. We
finally couldna't stand it and fell out rolling around on the floor.
He's a great guy and had a super sense of humor, but he always got
even. One moring in Larado, I found my Charlie One Horse hat laying
smashed with the crown punched out of it laying in the hall outside
my motel room door. Then he gave me 200 bucks to get a new one (it co
st 150) and had a big laugh.
Msg #20489 Dated 10:16:22 09-24-91 20474 <--> 20491
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
My music was well received on the BBC, in fact I probably got more
airplay in the Pacific NW and England there anywhere else combined.
Oh, yeah. Radio Sudsped (Austria) played my records til the grooves
wore out and fme living in the SE USA. Everyplace was too far to go
to do gigs though I did go to Great Brit for a tour and had a wonder
ful time. I wanted to move there for the longest time but finally got
the singing thing out of my system. Actually, the climate is much too
cold for me. Was in Scotland for part of a winter and it is COLD.
Msg #20491 Dated 10:16:40 09-24-91 20476 <--> 20501
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I guess my left hand is heaviest. I think I was supposed to have
been left handed and they whipped me til I did it with my right.
My left hand can do all sorts of stuff that my right can't do but
I'm conditioned to hit golf and baseball with right hand. Writing,
etc. I sure don't know now.
Msg #20492 Dated 10:16:50 09-24-91 20478 <--> 20507
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I don't think it was a Funkenring either, never did, but wanted to
see some SPARKS to see if I could do it. Your car bomb idea got the
wheels turning and I wanted to do something similar for closeup with
a little rosewood box that pops open and spews sparks. I like the
Funkenring principal because there is less danger of flash powder,
etc buring the spectator.
Msg #20493 Dated 10:17:00 09-24-91 20479 <--> 20530
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DR. JAKS
That's a funny story. That musta been about ten dollars worth of
flash paper in that era. Was probably Sen Crandall as I never saw
a picture of him without a cigar.
(Note: Messages #20494 through # 20500 were personal and do not
appear here).
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