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Msg #21501 Dated 10:47:59 10-02-91 21447 <--> 21876
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BARRY GITELSON (X)
Re: DISKMAGIC
Yes, Barry, we have gone to a subscription system. I've been letting
a few folks keep going for a while, especially when calling in from
places like Hawaii, but will be sending you a message about it in the
next few days.
Msg #21502 Dated 10:51:48 10-02-91 21464 <--> 21523
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
RE: Hiring masons for the comedy club show. Once upon a time, Marjorie
Merryweather Post was having a party at her Palm Beach home -
Mar-A-Lago - and came by as the band was setting up. She asked 'em how
it was goin' and they said that the room was a little small (her
ballroom was only about 100' x 200'). So she showed 'em the room next
door and they said, "No bigger than the other one." She said, "No, I
meant both together." Called in a crew that tore the wall out for the
night and then had it rebuilt the next day.
Prior to her death, she gave house to Fed. G'vt with a couple of
provisos - that she could continue to live there until her death, and,
because she hated Dick Nixon - Pres. at the time - that it could NEVER
be used as a Presidential retreat. Fed. never could figure out what to
do with the place - Town of Palm Beach would not allow it to be turned
into a tourist spot - so they eventually sold it to The Donald. Don't
know how it fits into his complex financial picture these days.
Msg #21504 Dated 12:40:07 10-02-91 21445 <--> 21524
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
If you like, I can meet both of you there. My budget is limited, so I'd
rather eat than spend $25.00+ on
another show. (Thank you Geno for your kind offer)
I'll have my mini-van and can carry four of us to wherever we decide to
go.(more if we're VERY friendly!)
It looks like the popular vote is to eat (or whatever) and meet for
Lance's show. I'm sure we can find
SOMETHING to talk about until 11.
Any other takers?
Msg #21506 Dated 13:26:12 10-02-91 21422 <--> 21525
From: MANNY WELTMAN
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: HOUDINI BURIED
Mapelah cemetery. Cypress Hills, Queens, N.Y.
Msg #21507 Dated 15:18:31 10-02-91 21469 <--> 21511
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I always liked The Hippy Dippy Weatherman's weather reports..."Dark
tonight....."
Msg #21508 Dated 15:18:37 10-02-91 21470 <--> 21518
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
I like the photo Manny sent with his Genii story with HH sitting on
the memorial as it was being finished (before he died, har) and would
like to have my photo made sitting on the marble just like Harry.
Why? Dunno, just the tabman sense of humor, I guess.
Msg #21509 Dated 15:18:44 10-02-91 21471 <--> 21530
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: I MAY VANISH
We're to settle on the property in Nashville on Tuesday the day AFTER
I leave for west coast and realtor is trying to figure out how it is
we're doing that. Things are moving soooooo fast right now and here
I am taking a break from making magic tables. Some things are just
hard to figure out.
Msg #21510 Dated 15:18:52 10-02-91 21472 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS
HAVE FAITH!
Msg #21511 Dated 15:18:56 10-02-91 21473 <--> 21514
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I had a great old metal TT which was great for lit cig stuff but
I think I lost it. The last plastic one I had got so discoloured
that I threw it away and since everybody vanishes cigs I just quit
doing it. Maybe I'll wire the old P&L cig pull back up just in case.
Msg #21512 Dated 15:19:04 10-02-91 21474 <--> 21533
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
The Last Heirophant has some good stuff in it. If I recall one of the
last effects in the book is a gambling demo that I liked. I'm not
certain, but think it was TLH but will check if I can find it. BTW,
what is the best way to pack books. Spine Up? Spine down? or Laying
on side?
Msg #21513 Dated 15:19:11 10-02-91 21476 <--> 21534
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Did you have to go back to court? Or was it Courtright? Or is that
a Stewart James joke?
Msg #21514 Dated 15:19:17 10-02-91 21480 <--> 21516
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Wait a minute. They are going to ship you a tranny for the jeep?
What are you going to do then? I guess they probably have boxes of
that kind of stuff laying around sort of like saw blades in the shop.
Msg #21515 Dated 15:19:24 10-02-91 21482 <--> 21519
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Not really. Sounds like Kevin is doing just fine without me anyway.
It's a bitch of a business anyhou. Woooden wish it on a soul. Kind
of like that Frances marshall book, _You;d Have To Be Crazy_...
Msg #21516 Dated 15:19:30 10-02-91 21488 <--> 21517
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Perhaps should be termed feke issues.
Msg #21517 Dated 15:19:35 10-02-91 21493 <--> 21521
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Good grief. No hot showers here and NO showers at all there. This is
getting scarey.
Msg #21518 Dated 15:19:41 10-02-91 21497 <--> 21529
From: TABBY CRABB
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
Let me locate the map, Evan and see what I can do. I know it is in
an area where a lot of people are buried.
Msg #21519 Dated 15:34:10 10-02-91 21486 <--> 21541
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Bass was one of the "early" successful Graphic Designers. He used
to be one of our major competitors... but he was a league (or 3)
above us!
Msg #21520 Dated 15:34:16 10-02-91 21490 <--> 21542
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
Where I disagree is that the THUMB TIP type bill switches are so
contrived. A "P E R F O R M E R" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
like Jim Ryan, Johnnie Paul switched bills so convincingly I had
NO IDEA HOW OR WHEN... the TT types use the technique to TRY TO
OVERCOME... And the Jennings one in his big book is great too.
If you know how to MANAGE the audience and perform and misdirect,
you don't care if the bill is out of sight for a milisecond. Hey,
I used to just say, "Is this the bill you gave me?" and when they
say YES, I put it into my pocket and say (this is a variant) "Good,
I'll have it back next Tuesday!" Then bring out the switched bill.
.
And... if you tell me the TT version is done WITHOUT THE BILL GOING
OUT OF SIGHT... YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION. It has to go
out of sight! ARGO!
Msg #21521 Dated 15:34:33 10-02-91 21491 <--> 21528
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Bob French performed in Red Hot Pants with Tux coat...a real argh..
Oh, just got the audition tape from Nathan... the Fire Engine
impression was amazingly realistic! Wowzo.........
Msg #21522 Dated 15:34:40 10-02-91 21495 <--> 21543
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Write protect? Whassat?
Msg #21523 Dated 15:34:44 10-02-91 21502 <--> 21544
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Is tough being poor! AR! (can't afford a full ARgh) ;+)
Msg #21524 Dated 15:34:49 10-02-91 21504 <--> 21545
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
The buffet at the Hacienda looked good last time I checked!
Msg #21525 Dated 15:34:52 10-02-91 21506 <--> 21593
From: PETE BIRO
To: MANNY WELTMAN (X)
Re: HOUDINI BURIED
Is he still there? Or did he get out? ;+)
Msg #21528 Dated 15:46:18 10-02-91 21507 <--> 21531
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
That ranks right up there with "Chili today Hot Tamale!" Owwwwwww
Msg #21529 Dated 15:46:22 10-02-91 21508 <--> 21537
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
How about an open grave with one of those Number things, you know
the kind you take to get served in a deli?
Msg #21530 Dated 15:46:27 10-02-91 21509 <--> 21548
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: I MAY VANISH
FAX MAN FAX
Msg #21531 Dated 15:46:31 10-02-91 21511 <--> 21532
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
That and the Thayer wooden 50-cent piece pull.... Don Alan marketed
a wax in metal version thru Magic Inc. Vernon used the Thayer one
I got.
Msg #21532 Dated 15:46:37 10-02-91 21511 <--> 21535
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
You got to get a wood lathe and a metal mill right?
Msg #21533 Dated 15:46:41 10-02-91 21512 <--> 21551
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
Pack em flat is what I did. And only lost 60 percent. Just kiddin,
didn't hurt none of 'em. A friend antique dealer said DONT' WASTE
PAPER BETWEEN PLATES. YOU CAN PACK PLATES FLAT IN A PILE. JUST
UT STUFF AROUND THE SIDES.
Msg #21534 Dated 15:46:48 10-02-91 21513 <--> 21552
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
WAS A NON JURY HEARING... JUDGE ONLY... A MOTION BY OUR LEGAL TO
SAVE TIME AND MONEY OF COURTS....We didn't dispute any statements,
just cited a legal precedent. Which I figured was all needed any
way. now to get my esxpense money back from HIS LAWYER. GOOD LUK.
Msg #21535 Dated 15:46:54 10-02-91 21514 <--> 21536
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Yep, they got parts. I called a local Trans shop (recommended by a
friend of a friend) and the guy said, "Are you the Pete Biro that
shoots pix for car magazines?" Heheheheh, I got a friendly price
50 bucks lower est than others.... heipooo
Msg #21536 Dated 15:47:02 10-02-91 21517 <--> 21538
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Will hose you off when you get to God's Country... just bought
2 new Pillows for guest room
Msg #21537 Dated 15:47:06 10-02-91 21518 <--> 21547
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
I can't top that line!
Msg #21538 Dated 16:15:23 10-02-91 21516 <--> 21539
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
No, no, Tabman - They are not feke issues, they is real issues. The
whole issue isn't feke.
Msg #21539 Dated 16:16:27 10-02-91 21517 <--> 21540
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Yeah, but you can always go down and bathe in Ye Olde Coole Spring.
Don't worry, you will only be here one night and we will let you take
a shower. We'll just make Nathan toke up on water while he is at
school.
Msg #21540 Dated 16:18:35 10-02-91 21521 <--> 21546
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Wait a minute! You got Nathan's audition tape; you SAW Nathan's
audition tape; and all you can comment on is his impression of a fire
engine? I thought that he exhibited great stage presence, etc. I
thought you would be on the horn to Joe Stevens ASAP. Yeah, well, your
shows were cute too!
Msg #21541 Dated 16:23:56 10-02-91 21519 <--> 21590
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Likely to be the same Saul Bass. You gotta see the movie sometime.
Msg #21542 Dated 16:25:03 10-02-91 21520 <--> 21608
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
Pete - -
It doesn't matter if you use a TT or not if you ain't a performer.
Neither method is good or bad, only the audience's perception counts.
And, NO, with the TT method the bill is NOT "out of sight for a
nanosecond" - it is EXCHANGED right in front of the spectators, IN PLAIN
VIEW.
Certainly, there are even more ways to do the bill switch than the
Diamond (Palm) method and the Kozlowski (TT) method, and each does have
its place - the palm can be done impromptu for example, very handy if
you lost your tip. And yes, the Biro Bill Switch works - FOR YOU.
All I'm saying is that _I_ _personally_ think that the Kozlowski method,
done right (an excellent version, for example, is on Michael Ammar's
Classic Renditions Vol III) by the right performer, appears better than
the palm method.
Personally, I prefer to do the bill switch by swallowing the
spectator's bill and coughing up the exchange bill. Then later, after
eating a can of beans, I expell the spectator's bill in the form of
quarters.
Msg #21543 Dated 16:49:14 10-02-91 21522 <--> 21609
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Eeeerrrggghhh - I thought so. You is gotta practice safe videoing.
Take a look at the front of a VHS tape (opposite the door that swings
open) - the part where you put the long skinny label - and you will see
a leetle plastic tab. You remove the tab and the tape cannot be
recorded on. On Beta the tab is on the bottom of the case - where the
hubs are - and you break it out with a little nail file or screwdriver
or something like that. In each case, a piece of tape over the hole
will allow the tape to be recorded on.
Msg #21544 Dated 16:54:01 10-02-91 21523 <--> 21610
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
OK, it is tough being poor. But you get to explain how that relates to
the header on the thread...
Msg #21545 Dated 16:56:35 10-02-91 21524 <--> 21576
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
Buffet at the Trop is good if you avoid all meat products, etc and
stick to lettuce, carrots, stuff like that. Price is right tho.
Msg #21546 Dated 16:56:39 10-02-91 21528 <--> 21549
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I decided to make some chicken tabman with some red peppers I saw
on the kitchen counter which a farmer had paid his vet bill with I
guess. Well, I thought was sweet peppers turned out to be MUY GRANDE
EL HOTTO stuff and I loaded it with them. I sweated for two days but
felt GREAT.
Msg #21547 Dated 16:56:46 10-02-91 21529 <--> 21555
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
There is a cemetary in Hollywood where nobody who LIVES in H'wood
can be legally buried cuz you has to join the dead first.
Msg #21548 Dated 16:56:54 10-02-91 21530 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: I MAY VANISH
FAX. That's what I sed and she (realtor) sez.."you have a fax machine
in YOUR HOUSE?" Where else, I replies. Actually is what we're gonna
do next two days then I can get outa here while Glo packs up and
gets ready for the move when I get back on Oct 17. Yowsuh!!
Msg #21549 Dated 16:57:04 10-02-91 21531 <--> 21550
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
By the time I came along the Thayer stuff was history basically and
I just lucked into the P&L cig pull in a magic shop in Minneapolis
while on the road some years back. It is the one with the holes in
the sides sooz the cig don't go out. It is the smoke from the sleeve
trick.
Msg #21550 Dated 16:57:18 10-02-91 21532 <--> 21553
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Already got the wood lathe and will get the metal mill after the
Hotel DeCarlo sells. Plan on putting 10 - 12k in the Conj Woodworks
and make it more like a REAL company complete with assets, adverts,
deadlines, etc. Looking very much forward to it. Am hanging with
this LAST music project just cuz I have to (and want the payoff)
tho friend Greg sez when he takes over at MCA he wants me to find
talent for him, but that's a part time thing cuz there just ain't
that much talent out there. Might have to take a bus gig out of
Music City to make the farm payments til this place sells but, heck
I know what it's like to live inside a whale.
Msg #21551 Dated 16:57:36 10-02-91 21533 <--> 22007
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC NIGHT
OK, thanx. Will pack em flat. Ordered 50 14x14x14 boxes to pack the
books in and hope it will be enuff. I want to pack the books, etc
so I can look through each one of them again. Prob won't have time
to scratch when I get home and the exodus starts. Ah, winter in
Tennessee. Say, what are you doing for Thanksgiving? Guess you'll
be going up to see your mom.
Msg #21552 Dated 16:57:47 10-02-91 21534 <--> 21601
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
You've gotta get your expenses from HIS LAWYER. He's prob not in the
mood to give YOU anything right now.
Msg #21553 Dated 16:57:52 10-02-91 21535 <--> 21554
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Will you be having the tranny shipped to the trans shop? or to
your house?
Msg #21554 Dated 16:57:56 10-02-91 21536 <--> 21556
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Great. One fpillow for the head and the other pillow for the Stewart
James book. Poifect!
Msg #21555 Dated 16:58:01 10-02-91 21537 <--> 21613
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
I liked the line so much I went back and reread it myself.
Msg #21556 Dated 16:58:04 10-02-91 21538 <--> 21557
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
No, no, Frogman - I knows what THEY are. Do you know what a FEKE is?
Actually, TA sez it is obsolete spelling but I LIKE IT. It is an
unseen device used to pull off a magical effect. In this case, unseen
is all the work that went into pulling off the preproductive FEKING
of the REAL ISSUES. I saw a set of the magazines in question last
month on a list of used magic stuff from Ron Allessi I think and
I think Greget hasem from time to time. Would bet that Geo. Daily
hasem too. You want his number?
Msg #21557 Dated 16:58:13 10-02-91 21539 <--> 21559
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I can take a shower when we hit Las Vegas. We have a suite at the
Trop courtesy of, well thatz a secret.
Msg #21558 Dated 17:00:01 10-02-91 21424 <--> 21596
From: STAN LAKE
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: TOPIT
What number do I call? I am available this Friday afternoon.
Msg #21559 Dated 17:01:16 10-02-91 21556 <--> 21561
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Yeah, yeah, I know a feke when I see one. Unfortunately, I can't see
having the F&SF issues since it is a little hard to pull out a 60's
magazine and say, "Ah, here is a magazine I was reading the other day."
It looks too much like you had 30 years in which to memorize the whole
thing. Guess it would work in a medical doctor's office though.
Msg #21561 Dated 17:03:32 10-02-91 21557 <--> 21570
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Nah, you can have the shower. I ain't gettin' on no plane with no
dirty tabman. A suite, huh? Zounds good to me!
Msg #21563 Dated 17:06:10 10-02-91 -> 21572
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
Well, it looks like the comedy folks made it before the magic folks
did. Post office now has COMEDIANS stamps done by Al Hirschfeld. Five
stamps - Laurel & Hardy, Bergen & McCarthy, Abbott & Costello, Fanny
Brice, and Jack Benny. Also, they are ofering an 11 x 14 reproduction
of the signed Harschfield print for the Abbott & Costello one complete
with a first day of issue cancellation. It is $14.95, BUT you can save
two bucks if you have the discount order form from purchasing one of
nine comedy VIDEOTAPES from MCA/Universal Home Video!!! YES, this IS
for real! There is a brochure available at the post office.
Msg #21567 Dated 19:22:19 10-02-91 -> 21569
From: GARY PLANTS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: J.B.
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David,
I am very glad to read that you had better luck with the J.B.
order than I have been. I have tried to bite my tongue and not
say anything, but when someone OWES you a few items:
1. Fred Braue Notebooks $150.00 Last issue - Nov. 1985
2. Epoptica Subscription $37.50 Last issue - Sept. 1989
3. Arcane Subscription $30.00 Last issue - July 1985
I believe this comes to about $217.50 of mine that this jerk has
held on to for 6 YEARS. This is bad enough but now this a--hole
has the nerve to stop sending me his "occasional rag" BECAUSE I
GUESS I DON'T ORDER OFTEN ENOUGH FROM HIM. WOULD YOU????????
Mr. B will get no more of my money until he makes good on what he
now owes me.
I certainly hope that he doesn't owe the other 6,000 magicians
on his list $200 each.
Msg #21569 Dated 19:46:52 10-02-91 21567 <--> 21588
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: J.B.
Should I assume that sometime in the past 6 years you have dropped him
a note or two to remind him of this? Perhaps a small computer program
that sends him a monthy fax? I obviously was not taking any sides in
this, nor am I prepared to defend Mr. B. from any errors he has
possibly made. All I know is that my order for some small items
arrived within 4 days - very nicely packaged.
Msg #21570 Dated 20:18:13 10-02-91 21559 <--> 21571
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
You've got a pint there Frog.
Msg #21571 Dated 20:18:17 10-02-91 21561 <--> 21578
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Lessee....
A. A dirty tabman is better than no tabman at all.
B. Traveling sans shower helps me keep the seat all to myself.
C. I will shower twice on Thursday.
D. It keeps the skeeters at bay.
Msg #21572 Dated 20:18:24 10-02-91 21563 <--> 21579
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
I forgot those L&H stamps were coming out. Thanks for reminding me.
Wonder what happened to the magish stamp movement. I got myself hooke
d up to visit the citizens stamp committee and nuttin. Guess I
shoulda took a shower. Can I borrow yer soap on a rope?
Msg #21574 Dated 20:39:15 10-02-91 -> 21603
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
This subject heading should read "Fugitive Coins & Spirit Matchbox".
I have a couple of questions to anyone who does either of these
effects. I learned the Fugitive Coins from the David Roth lecture.
(It's even in the notes!) The effect is where you show a quarter and
a half dollar and supposedly giving them both to the spectator to hold
behind his back. What you really d o is give him the half and switch
the quarter for a 1955 or 1956 five peso piece. It's supposed to feel
like a small coin and large coin, obviously the quarter and half.
Anyhow, the spectator brings his hands still closed out in front of him
and you take what he thinks is the half but is really the 5 peso piece.
This you switc-h for the quarter you still have finger palmed and the
effect is you have transposed the quarter from his hand to yours and
the half from your hand to his. Roth calls this a psrfect tactile
illusion. He says he has never been caught at this and indeed the
magician in the audience he demonstrated this on was fooled. I have
been caught two out of seven times! They said "Hey these don't feel
like the coins you just showed me!" Does anyone else do this effect
and have they had better success than I have?
Eugene Burgers "The Animated Matchbox" as described in his book
"The Performance of Close-Up Magic", he says to tie a knot in the
invisible thread. I use the thicker "esoteric" thread from Stevens
that he suggests but have you ever tried to tie a knot in invisible
thread? It's tough! I tried anchoring it with wax but it pulled free.
Any suggestions??
Msg #21576 Dated 21:07:01 10-02-91 21400 <--> 21582
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
I too am tempted at seeing another show. WE could always follow
previous experiences and talk till dawn.
Msg #21578 Dated 21:31:29 10-02-91 21571 <--> 21594
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Item A counts real big around here - A Tabman in any condition beats no
Tabman at all. Definitely.
Msg #21579 Dated 21:34:09 10-02-91 21572 <--> 21620
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
The Comedians By Hirschfield set of stamps is available in a booklet of
20 stamps, four of each, for $5.80 Some of the printing is pretty
awful, but they is U.S. postage stamps.
Msg #21582 Dated 21:39:54 10-02-91 21576 <--> 21611
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
I think that the best idea will be dinner/talk and the Lance Burton
show and more talk (especially if the Biro can get Lance to appear in
the coffee shop!). I think that Jerry is suggesting the Hacienda as
the meeting point - if so, maybe we should do that - anyone can start
to gather there around 8 p.m. - how does that sound?
Msg #21588 Dated 22:31:27 10-02-91 21567 <--> 21622
From: EVAN KATZ
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: J.B.
Can't say I'm in as deep, but I have a small amount of money in what
appears to be Epoptica escrow. Have you had any communications with
him that informed you when, if ever, any of these publications will
start back up again?
Msg #21589 Dated 22:26:58 10-02-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: SKELTON/FIELDS
There has been some mention on here, of late, of folks like Red Skelton
and W. C. Fields. Wireless has the following offerings this month:
"Red Skelton: King of Laughter Video. Good night and Gawd bless,
it's Red at his best: a whole hour of hilarious clips and routines
from America's most lovable comedian. You'll see his famous
characters Clem Kadiddlehopper, Willie Lump Lump, Deadeye and
Cauliflower McPugg, a sketch with John Wayne and Tommy Smothers,
uncensored rehersal cips with Martha Raye, and more. About 1 hour;
color and b&w; VHS, #19370, $14.95."
Also,
"The Best of W. C. Fields, Volumes 1 & 2. W. C. Fields was
America's top comedian in the 1930s and 40s. Audiences across
the country roared at the skits, stories, and snappers on his
weekly radio show with Don Ameche, Edgar Bergen, and Charlie
McCarthy. These new cassettes, available only from Wireless(R),
present the best segments from those original radio broadcasts,
many drawn from Fields' private collection. You'll hear "The
Pharmacist," "The Temperance Lecture," and 10 more riotous
sketches. 1-3/4 hours on two [audio] cassettes. #18842, $10.95."
There are additional shipping charges. Wireless can be reached at
800-669-9999.
Msg #21590 Dated 23:09:00 10-02-91 21449 <--> 21591
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Depends on the mood you catch me in. Seriously, I have been a full-
time singer/musician. I am not very good at the managment side of it,
and consequently, I sometimes don't eat real regularly. So I have
augmented my playing with other skills. I write a lot of music, and
some of the local groups are recording some of my stuff.
Would you like a tape?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21591 Dated 23:11:37 10-02-91 21482 <--> 21592
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Pete,
This is cCalifornia. Use a pun, go to prison.
Enjoy
!
Kevin
Msg #21592 Dated 23:12:36 10-02-91 21486 <--> 21598
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
I know that the English departments at the local colleges still show
"Why man creates." Would you like me to try and run you down a copy?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21593 Dated 23:16:03 10-02-91 21525 <--> 21627
From: MANNY WELTMAN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOUDINI BURIED
Good question. With Houdini, who knows? 8-)
Msg #21594 Dated 23:18:10 10-02-91 21507 <--> 21595
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
"....followed by scattering light in the morning."
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21595 Dated 23:45:36 10-02-91 21556 <--> 21606
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
No, no -- if you're gonna reference me READ me. FAKE is something
people see but do not recognize, as for example a Thumb Tip; GIMMICK is
something they never see. Think about it -- something couldn't be a
fake unless it was an imitation of something real -- i.e., something
seen.
Msg #21596 Dated 23:52:28 10-02-91 21558 <--> 21800
From: T A WATERS
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TOPIT
Call the Castle -- 851-8946 -- ext. 136 for the Castle Library. I am in
the office 10-12AM, 1-4PM (approx.).
Msg #21598 Dated 23:54:33 10-02-91 21592 <--> 21645
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
If you know where to find a copy, yes, I'd appreciate knowing. It has
been a long time since I've seen it. Have you seen it? What do you
think of it?
Msg #21601 Dated 0:05:01 10-03-91 21458 <--> 21615
From: T A WATERS
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Fields did have one for the m/f word -- it was "Mother of pearl" -- but
pronounced sort of like "MUTHERVE--pearl..."
Msg #21603 Dated 1:17:49 10-03-91 21574 <--> 21605
From: MAX MAVEN
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
You may find it easier to tie a knot in fine thread by using a
cylindrical object such as a pen. This should have some heft to it; a
light-weight plastic ballpoint will not do. Lay the pen across the
thread, holding it in place as you make an overhand knot. Then, as you
pull the knot closed, you can allow the pen to slide out of the way.
Once the first knot is in, you'll find it easier to add subsequent
knots on top of it if you desire.
Msg #21605 Dated 1:24:53 10-03-91 21603 <--> 21625
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
Considering that I have sometimes been up to my knuckles in fine
"invisible" thread, I really appreciate your information. Thank you
very much, Max.
Msg #21606 Dated 1:31:26 10-03-91 21539 <--> 21607
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Who gets to walk on the water?
Msg #21607 Dated 1:31:31 10-03-91 21540 <--> 21612
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I wasn't sure who it was behind the make up! Tsk.... I didn't want
to tip that I had Federal Expressed the tape to Joe Stevens. But...
Msg #21608 Dated 1:31:37 10-03-91 21542 <--> 21632
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
I guess it is one's right to disagree with one, who's right it is
to disagree with one, whos write it is to digersseed arghaskjfadj
zzzzzzzzz....
Msg #21609 Dated 1:31:42 10-03-91 21543 <--> 21633
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
REMOVE A "TAB".... I don't think that would be advisable... at
least not til after the Walnut Creek leg o his twip!
Msg #21610 Dated 1:31:47 10-03-91 21544 <--> 21634
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
I use a needle threader to relate to thread.
Msg #21611 Dated 1:31:51 10-03-91 21545 <--> 21626
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
I take the meat. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Msg #21612 Dated 1:31:55 10-03-91 21546 <--> 21616
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I once had to pick up a container of Jalepeno Peppers from the
advertising manager of Del Monte Foods, in San Francisco for a
label photo. The guy jokingly said, "Be careful, don't get any of
the stuff in this can on your skin!" I didn't believe him. I did
after it hit the fingers.... owwwwwwwwwwww for a week.
Msg #21613 Dated 1:32:03 10-03-91 21547 <--> 21650
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
I like it... i like it... dead Poet's society...?
Msg #21614 Dated 1:32:07 10-03-91 -> 21651
From: PETE BIRO
To: ER
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
S
Er;21551
Don't look at the books until you unpack em... try, when you unpack
(LIKE I JUST DID) to put em up on the shelves in Alfabeticle order.
You will like yourself a whole lot after you do it that way...
Msg #21615 Dated 1:32:15 10-03-91 21552 <--> 21689
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Tell me more sweet lips!
Msg #21616 Dated 1:32:19 10-03-91 21553 <--> 21617
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Tranny to the Tranny shop. My man at Chrysler Corp., sed, "You don't
wanna have to lift it!"
Msg #21617 Dated 1:32:24 10-03-91 21554 <--> 21618
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
My Stewart James book snores at night. Mebbe the pillow is too
stiff?
Msg #21618 Dated 1:32:29 10-03-91 21556 <--> 21619
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I drove like a bat out of frogville and got to Paul Diamond's
lecture in Concord tonite ( had a press meeting in Oakland ) and
got there just as he was loading up and leaving... nobody (other
than his nifty wife Andy) was there. He dug out and found me the
Last Heirophant (now gotem all) (now what do I do with em?)... then
we all went out for a Nosh. Whatever that is, I guess it meant
breakfast at Denny's. (I had pie).
Msg #21619 Dated 1:32:39 10-03-91 21559 <--> 21630
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
That's the point you missed. Just like the bill switch. You tell
em you HAVE MEMORIZED THE WHOLE BOOK (or magazine).... yar....
Msg #21620 Dated 1:32:44 10-03-91 21563 <--> 21624
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
What, Bergren and McCarthy???? Where... (note the "correct" spell
of Edgar's last name... ahah)
Msg #21622 Dated 1:32:53 10-03-91 21567 <--> 21623
From: PETE BIRO
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: J.B.
What is the real quantity, etc. on the Braue Notebooks. I think I
have four or five???? Will check.
Msg #21623 Dated 1:32:58 10-03-91 21569 <--> 21644
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: J.B.
Jeff "can" do good. He has excellent tastes in magic and books,
writes well, but I just don't understand his modus operandi. I know
he told me he was WIPED out $-wise with the divorce... but, who
really knows... Mebbe he put all his cash into the Man who wuz...
and it is slo coming back. No idea. Too bad, he is a very bright
guy! Was almost finished with school to become a dentist and quit
to sell magic books....
Msg #21624 Dated 1:33:07 10-03-91 21572 <--> 21636
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
Soap on rope? To hang somone?
Msg #21625 Dated 1:33:11 10-03-91 21574 <--> 21743
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
Re the coins... I think "management" and off handed comentary, so
they don't suspect anything will solve it for you. How long you
been doing it? 5, 6 years? I bet Roth had people catch him for a
year or two... IT REALLY TAKES A LONG TIME TO LEARN THE SUBTLE
AND CONVINCING STUFF. How to keep people from grabbing props, etc.
etc. TAKES YEARS ...
.
Tie thread... There is an old trick my mom taught me to tie a knot
on the end of fine thread. It is tuff to describe, but what you do
is to Hold thread in left hand. Wrap it once around the right index
finger the loose end hanging down about half an inch on the side of
the finger toward you. Hold in place with right thumb. Wrap the
thread over the top, down and come out from below with the thread
toward your tip side of the finger. When the thread crosses, your
right thumb goes over the lap (it looks like an X) Keep light
pressure with the thumb which pushes the crossed thread to the
left and OFF THE END OF THE FINGER, the fingertip drags the thread
thru the loop formed and when the end is thru you grip it and
voila a knot. Do this a couple of times over the same spot to make
a thicker knot. Hope this is understandable....
Msg #21626 Dated 1:33:32 10-03-91 21582 <--> 21635
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
I dunno, all that travel and only seeing one show???? Dumb move.
Msg #21627 Dated 1:33:36 10-03-91 21593 <--> 21656
From: PETE BIRO
To: MANNY WELTMAN (X)
Re: HOUDINI BURIED
8-) is a good one I had not seen.... (8+)=
Msg #21628 Dated 1:33:39 10-03-91 -> 21637
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: PAT PAGE
Ee;21601
Had a nice loooooooooooong overseas phone call with Pat Page today.
Had heard he was not in great shape... turns out he is NOW in
great shape... had 10 month bout with a health problem that none
of the Doc's could figure out... then one day VOILA they got it,
and soon he was "10 years younger feeling... great..."
.
Sed, "Show biz in England is D E A D ..... had one agent that I did
2-3 shows a week with in 1989... Now haven't gotten 3 shows all
year!!!"
.
He has become very busy doing TV tech work for magic. Worked on the
Wayne Dobson series, and specials and also on the "Secret Cabaret",
of which Jim Steinmeyer is a Producer! Ricky Jay taped six episodes
recently.s
.
Jay Marshall was (and still is) over for the British Ring convention
and visited Pat. Page is also doing a series of video tapes with
his pal Vic Pinto, but not in the NTSC format, so we won't see any
of them for awhile. tsk....
Msg #21630 Dated 1:36:42 10-03-91 21607 <--> 21631
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Well, if you FedX'ed the tape to Stevens, then OK. Nathan says that he
will be available for Desert Magic if the price is right.
Msg #21631 Dated 1:39:02 10-03-91 21619 <--> 21643
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Yeah, but if you had 30 years in which to do it, it would be no big
deal. The "I have memorized the whole book" bit might work if you were
standing next to a magazine rack and could pick up this week's issue of
the Dog Breeder's Gazette and do it, but otherwise, nah. And anyway,
I don't think you want 'em jazzed by your prodigious memory - that
ain't mentalism, that's memory trick.
Msg #21632 Dated 1:42:39 10-03-91 21608 <--> 21664
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
Definitely alright to disagree. Several people have found my
swallowing the spectator's bill and coughing up the exchange one
disagreeable. Done right though, it is almost as nifty as a mouth
coil.
Msg #21633 Dated 1:45:30 10-03-91 21609 <--> 21657
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Oooops! Yeah, I didn't mean "remove a TAB," just "remove a tab."
Although I woudn't be in the least upset if he quit his trip here, got
Gloria to ship herself and the stuff out, and moved in next door. We
could all come visit Walnut Creek on weekends and Nathan would grow up
in some very fine company.
Msg #21634 Dated 1:48:35 10-03-91 21610 <--> 21665
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Was thinkin' back on some of Marjorie's other exploits - I do remember
that her Major Domo had a butler.
Msg #21635 Dated 1:50:03 10-03-91 21626 <--> 21648
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
May I remind you that YOU created this little expedition! I think the
one show will be worth it from all reviews to date.
Msg #21636 Dated 1:52:20 10-03-91 21620 <--> 21638
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
Well, if you is right, then the whole world is wrong - P. O. used
"Bergen," so did Wireless, although local phone book does have two
"Bergren" listings so family name could be correct. Anyway, you should
go to post office and get the set "while they last." Abbott & Costello
poster is pretty good lookin' too, and remember, MCA/Universal can save
you $2 on the poster. No telling where this could lead - "Buy a Big
Mac and send a letter for only 27 cents..."
Msg #21637 Dated 2:00:05 10-03-91 21628 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PAT PAGE
Thanks for the Pat Page update, Pete. You should tell him to get a
computer and to log on.
Msg #21638 Dated 2:02:51 10-03-91 21636 <--> 21655
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
Just found the list of Abbott & Costello tapes that are supposed to
have the $2.00 off at the Post Office discount order form in 'em:
In the Navy
Keep 'em Flying
Abbott & Costello Meet Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein
Buck Privates
Hit the Ice
Hold that Ghost
The Naughty Nineties
The Time of Their Lives
Who Done It?
The offer is supposed to be good until December 31, 1991.
Msg #21640 Dated 6:01:26 10-03-91 -> 21768
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Considering that they are not perfect force books, which of your two
books is the "better" force book, i.e., which has the higher percentage
of success?
Regarding your Encyclopedia and an earlier David Lichtman comment, is
it nearly out of print?
Charlie
Msg #21641 Dated 6:01:53 10-03-91 -> 21658
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ETC.
Pete, Bob Read has a video, two actually. There were some of the
early Videonics tapes. One of the tapes does include the bottle
production and goes into some detail in its explanation.
On another subject, which of the Goldston books are you missing a
key. I might be able to send you one.
Also, got the car and Topper - thanks. Regarding the latter, are
there any instructions (or hints) on its use? Will get a check in the
mail to you and a list of the vent books if you're interested in them.
Oh, and did you ever find the Takagi Cup? Thanks.
Charlie
p.s. sorry to say the Richard Almanacs are gone...
Msg #21643 Dated 9:00:00 10-03-91 21578 <--> 21646
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
OK, I'll take a shower.
Msg #21644 Dated 9:00:05 10-03-91 21588 <--> 21753
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: J.B.
Makes me glad I didn't order the Braue Notebooks. How many of them
did you get so far? I was glad to see that my file of Epoptica was
complete as I had wondered if any issues came out after 1989. I thoug
ht I saw something about Williamson getting another Braue Notebook
or was that something else, or a joke. After seeing that it is no
wonder Jeff gets nervous as I'm behind on table making but am almost
and (knock on wood) WILL BE caught us by Oct 7 so I can get on to
NEW projects.
Msg #21645 Dated 9:00:14 10-03-91 21590 <--> 21680
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
What I'm interested in is original music. I've gotten a few cuts
for folks over the years (12 in top 100) so I guess it's worth a
shot. Adress here is good for a while but if you wanna wait a month
or so I'll shoot you the new adr in Music City. Box 590, Charlotte
Hall, MD 20622. Make sure stuff is copyright B4 U send.
What are you trying to do with your music?
Msg #21646 Dated 9:00:21 10-03-91 21594 <--> 21647
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I was trying to remember the "scattered light" part but for the
life of me couldn't.
Msg #21647 Dated 9:00:27 10-03-91 21595 <--> 21649
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Yes, yes -- I knew I was pushing it with my FEKE line but you never
know unless you try. You're right about the GIMMICK vs FAKE re:
REAL GIMMICKED FORCE BOOKS but what is a FAKE BOOK? Actually, I just
like the antiquated FEKE word and try to use it at every opportunity.
Msg #21648 Dated 9:00:33 10-03-91 21611 <--> 21666
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
I like the meat too, but not at the Trop. Dangerous stuff. They
recycle grease I think. Scarey looking.
Msg #21649 Dated 9:00:38 10-03-91 21612 <--> 21652
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
You got it. Never eat a hot pepper and then rub your eyes with the
pepper stained hand. No, no, no. My dad used to make "pepper sauce"
and would have to put a new metal cap on the gallon jug every few
months as it would burn right through. Great on turnip greens!!
Msg #21650 Dated 9:00:44 10-03-91 21613 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MANHATTAN
I think we should start the 21st Century Magicale but maybe we should
wait til the last year of the 20th century to start it.
Msg #21651 Dated 9:00:49 10-03-91 21614 <--> 21676
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
The thing to do would be to computer catalog them at the same time I
put them on the shelves. Would take a while, but would be worth it
I know in the long run. Looking 4ward to some nice winter evenings
in the Nuevo DeCarlo library catalogueing. New office/library is
bigger than office here so will have more room for poker table etc
and lotz of shelves built in.
Msg #21652 Dated 9:00:57 10-03-91 21616 <--> 21653
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Thats good they are sending to tranny shop as I could see you with
this large crate sitting on front porch trying to figger out how
to move it inside.
Msg #21653 Dated 9:01:02 10-03-91 21617 <--> 21654
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
I will probably try to figger outa way to carry James book with me
since I just can't stop reading it and plane time would be good place
to get lost in book. Gotta get some film today and shoot pics of
table bases here so you can see.
Msg #21654 Dated 9:01:09 10-03-91 21618 <--> 21659
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Does Paul D fly out on these trips or is he motering. Good you got
Last Heirophant from him. It is only Heirophant I have and must
get early copies. Am wondering how to catalog all the paperback stuff
I has here. Tons of little booklets, etc. Maybe get them bound up in
sets or something like that as they are cumbersome on shelfs and
hardly ever get used in this fashion. Any suggestions?
Msg #21655 Dated 9:01:17 10-03-91 21624 <--> 21667
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
Sooz I don't drop the soap as Frog's guest shower is too small for
me to bend over to pick it up and it kept slipping out from between
my toes on last visit. Had clean feet though.
Msg #21656 Dated 9:01:22 10-03-91 21627 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOUDINI BURIED
<:+)=|+<
Msg #21657 Dated 9:01:26 10-03-91 21633 <--> 21661
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I wooden mind living out there with all you coool guys though in
TN we is buying farm with great old house and 38 acres, pond, barns,
workshop (milking house), solarium, etc for 138.5K. That probably
wooden buy tent space in your next door neighbors front yard in
Los Angeles. Zoning where Nuevo DeCarlo is allows me to build six
addl houses on the property. Magic community? Mebbe!!
Msg #21658 Dated 9:01:34 10-03-91 21641 <--> 21668
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: ETC.
Good talking 2 U the other night. Gotta get a check out 2 you today
also. Have a great time at Inn Event and hope things go well with
getting stuff from O'Dowd for our book.
Msg #21659 Dated 9:07:32 10-03-91 21649 <--> 21660
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
You feked me out on that one...
Msg #21660 Dated 9:08:12 10-03-91 21654 <--> 21662
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Joe Stevens has most of all the Heirophants on a shelf for sale in the
back room.
Msg #21661 Dated 9:10:17 10-03-91 21657 <--> 21678
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I could sell this joint move to Nash and still afford a cheap house in
the crappy areas out here in the left... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Msg #21662 Dated 9:11:02 10-03-91 21630 <--> 21663
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
It's a contest.... no win no dough....
Msg #21663 Dated 9:11:06 10-03-91 21631 <--> 21673
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
They will figger it is memory any way.... tsk.... If you seriously
wanna do a mental act I could outline the one I did.... very, very
easy and very commercial! I had people coming to me for private
readings!!! I turned 'em all down of course! Now I wish I had done
a few, might have discovered where some money is....
Msg #21664 Dated 9:11:14 10-03-91 21632 <--> 21679
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
I have never revealed the best switch. It is akin to the clip on
the end of a pencil, where you walk back and just swap ends.
.
You borrow a bill. Fold into packet, place on your ear (like a
pencil) and when you turn you use the bill from your OTHER ear.
.
Seriously, a good one is to put the cap of a pen on both ends of
a pen. Put the bill under the clip and switch ends... more natural
looking than the Faust Clip.
Msg #21665 Dated 9:11:25 10-03-91 21634 <--> 21804
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
I have a friend that is so poor, his maids are poor, his butler is
poor and even his chaeuffer is poot.
Msg #21666 Dated 9:11:31 10-03-91 21635 <--> 21675
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
Smart money is to go to both early and late shows and try to see
if you can tell the differences in the girls costumes. In one show
they got 'em, in the late show they somehow vanish?
Msg #21667 Dated 9:11:36 10-03-91 21638 <--> 21677
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
Is these vid or aud tapes of "Heeeeeaaayyyy Abbboooottt!?
Msg #21668 Dated 9:11:40 10-03-91 21641 <--> 21669
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: ETC.
I found I only have the ONE Takagi cup and would like to keep it.
The key (I have 3 books and 3 keys) seems to have gotten "fat",
maybe rust? If you have a spare of the smallerest (new word) and
can spare it, fine... if it don't work will return.
.
Read Video... hmmmmmmmmmmmm will look for 'em. One of the funniest
guys anywhere. Have you ever seen him do the Penultimate Cups and
Balls? I have one of his wristwatches (that falls apart) and can't
keep it from not falling apart... needs adjustment.
.
You should have seen him at Vegas doing a set and an EMERGENCY DOOR
ALARM WENT OFF..... Big laffs, then the yellow light came on (it
was a contest "time is almost up" warning light) and when he saw
the light come on... and due to delay when alarm went off, he new
the red light would be on in 30 seconds... and he had about 3
minutes of his act left to do... HE TOOK HIS COAT OFF AND TOSSED IT
OVER THE LIGHTS so the judges couldn't see them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.
Needless to say, nobody would have DQ'd him for time anyway, but
it was one of the funniest scenes in magic contest history.
.
Next to my win once... but that's another crazy story... 3 minute
laff caused by an outside situation I ad libbed a line on....
You will need to buy my 2nd book for that one... (First book will
be done before the year is up!) ARgh ;+)
Msg #21669 Dated 9:12:07 10-03-91 21641 <--> 21670
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: ETC.
Topper. No, never seen instructions OTHER THAN what is in the
book, "Magic of Richard Himber" (I think edited by Ed Levy) which
reprints all the instruction sheets of all the Himber stuff.
.
If you don't find let me know and I can make a scanned copy.
Msg #21670 Dated 9:12:15 10-03-91 21641 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: ETC.
TOPPER... basic trick. Fill the lid tray with chopped up pieces of
playing cards and put on top of a full card. This card will be a
dupe of one you will force.
.
BASIC (no emellishments): Card selected, lost in deck. A double edge
razor blade is put into the deck. Deck put in box. Shake well.
Open box and all cards are seen to be cut up 'EXCEPT THE SELECTED
CARD' (oh, yeh, put a razor in with the chopped pieces).
.
NOTE: dull the razor blades.
.
In my last lecture I have designed and made a different type of box
for the effect. It is thin black plastic and is like a himber wallet
in a way... in that you open a flap door one one side and a full
deck fits in it. You turn it over and open the flap door and the
cut pieces are in that side. Hard to describe on screen without
a sketch.
\| |\ <-------ruff idea, on end, |= box top and bottom, \=lids.
Proportions of above little sketch wrong, but you can figger it
I am sure...
Msg #21673 Dated 9:52:32 10-03-91 21662 <--> 21674
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
OK on contest, guess I'll have to go read the rules. But you do plan
to pay Nathan for his lecture, don't you?
Msg #21674 Dated 9:53:58 10-03-91 21663 <--> 21684
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
It would be great to see an outline of the mental act that you did.
I've seen and read a few responses to the requests for private
readings, for being asked for winning lottery numbers, etc., but am not
that crazy about most of 'em.
Msg #21675 Dated 9:59:55 10-03-91 21666 <--> 21750
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
Sure hope Gloria Allred doesn't hear about this change of costumes or
she'll make Lance appear in the buff at the late show and she sure as
heck ain't no mage.
Msg #21676 Dated 10:04:32 10-03-91 21651 <--> 21731
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
It would be most interesting if you used Pete's same database program
and layout - maybe someday we could all pool info that way.
Msg #21677 Dated 10:09:57 10-03-91 21667 <--> 21732
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
The MCA/Universal/Post Office list is videotapes. "In the Navy" and
"Keep 'em Flying" are supposed to be new releases.
Msg #21678 Dated 10:11:40 10-03-91 21657 <--> 21695
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I've already told you to save me a space at Nuevo DeCarlo compound.
Can't believe that price! And you are right - 138.5K here would buy
rights to front lawn. Can't remember who did it, but during the Carter
admin there was a comedian who did a bit about "Inflation is your
friend." His argument in it's favor was something like "Didn't you
always dream of living in a 100-thousand dollar house and driving a
30-thousand dollar car? Well, thanks to inflation, you can!" I'm told
that the price for my little 1950's tract bungalow is around a COUPLE
of hundred grand now. When we were lookin' we saw a CHICKEN COOP in
Hollywood for $150K (about 12 years ago) - it seriously still had the
railings for the chickens to roost on and a big pile of chicken guano
in the backyard. Guy was trying to convince us that it was a "charming
craftsman home." Also saw a place that was a perfect studio for porn
flicks - took us a while to figure it out - we were impressed with the
nice size of the master bedroom.
Msg #21679 Dated 10:22:42 10-03-91 21664 <--> 21705
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
Wow! Those really are cool switches, Pete! I don't think they'd work
in my personna, but I can visualize 'em with yours. SERIOUSLY - you
have GOT to book yourself into a show somewhere. It is time that the
magic community got to see you again.
Msg #21680 Dated 10:28:13 10-03-91 21340 <--> 21733
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
most folks finding themselves in a vacuum would tend to make
breathing a higher priority than invention....
Msg #21681 Dated 10:28:27 10-03-91 21341 <--> 21686
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
I betcha they don't eat Poi!....at least not on the fly.
Msg #21682 Dated 10:28:33 10-03-91 21342 <--> 21702
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOUDINI?
What does "sponsorship" of a FISM contestant signify? Is one making
a judgement on the quality of the contestant when they sponsor them?
Msg #21683 Dated 10:28:38 10-03-91 21343 <--> 21685
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IBM
Will send you a FAX on this JN/DC/APR/SLC situation later today.
Msg #21684 Dated 10:28:43 10-03-91 21344 <--> 21697
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
The breads are good enough to support Klosterman Bakeries in three
states and allow Ken to build what amounts to an underground museum
of magic.
You only force pumpernickle if you are on a roll.
Msg #21685 Dated 10:28:59 10-03-91 21345 <--> 21698
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IBM
I can see it now...When you tire of calling the 900 sex lines, call
Biro for his on line one liners!
Msg #21686 Dated 10:29:04 10-03-91 21347 <--> 21687
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
I didn't think that snakes were originally a part of the fauna of
Hawaii and had been introduced later. If the reptiles didn't make it
on the rafts then I thought the amphibians might not had made it
either. Did you introduce them during one of your visits?
Msg #21687 Dated 10:29:16 10-03-91 21348 <--> 21712
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
...and I thought you were a Levi....but now that I think of it, you
did say green pants and not jeans.
Msg #21688 Dated 10:29:23 10-03-91 21349 <--> 21715
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FOOD FOR THOUGHT
They probably do make apple candy around Winchester in the apple
growing part of the state. I remember making apple butter as a kid.
You had to stir the damn stuff all day long in huge copper kettles.
Msg #21689 Dated 10:29:33 10-03-91 21350 <--> 21716
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Not only do they have run-on sentences, they also get the verbal
horse in front of the subject cart!
Msg #21690 Dated 10:29:42 10-03-91 21351 <--> 21691
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Heh...heh...heh...
Wells - 1
Sysop - 0
Msg #21691 Dated 10:29:52 10-03-91 21352 <--> 21692
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
OK...ok....lets call it even.
Wells - 1
Sysop - 1
....I will just stop watch carefully.
Msg #21693 Dated 10:30:12 10-03-91 21354 <--> 21720
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PILTDOWN MAGIC
I am really not an anthropologist, more of a fan of Lorn Eisley than
anything else. Howsomever, I will be happy to talk fossils with you.
I seem to remember the Trop has a decent onion soup over which we
might explore the primeval brew.
Msg #21695 Dated 10:30:35 10-03-91 21356 <--> 21704
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
You would be better with tassles at the end of your rope instead of
frongs (sic). I thought he told me the multipling frogs were at the
end of the tape.
Msg #21696 Dated 10:30:46 10-03-91 21357 <--> 21724
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WINTERS AND BEER
Didn't get a chance to sit down and look anything up last evening.
will try to do so tonight. My volume is over a 1000 pages and I
think was published by the UNC press around '89 or '90. I have never
seen a paperback edition. Lots of photos, etc.
Msg #21698 Dated 10:31:27 10-03-91 21368 <--> 21699
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IBM
I suspect he will be doing Casey's this weekend if my memory serves
me correctly. Good luck on the state. I thought they were broke and
laying off state police to balance the budget.
Msg #21699 Dated 10:31:33 10-03-91 21369 <--> 21706
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IBM
Good lyric!
I will betcha they got books on your family in the Root Cellar. We
will hafta go look while we are there. Easy to look em up on the
computer. That way you can get references to use and come back in
June loaded for bear.
Msg #21701 Dated 10:32:15 10-03-91 21371 <--> 21703
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
If she puts the Brunswick Stew recipe in there, it won't be no force
at all!
Msg #21702 Dated 10:32:27 10-03-91 21388 <--> 21711
From: BILL WELLS
To: MANNY WELTMAN (X)
Re: HOUDINI?
Thanks Manny, I don't think there is any problem here that would
require your help. Just a matter of someone making application for
membership in the I.B.M. under the name of Harry Houdini. We had
thought the individual might have been Hardeen's grandson who changed
his name to Houdini. However, it seems to be another individual
from Reno who performs under the name Houdini and is using his stage
name on his membership application.
I guess the spirits are very much amoung us this October.
Msg #21703 Dated 10:32:45 10-03-91 21403 <--> 21709
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
This means the book will contain a Crabbe Crab cake recipe...
N'est pas?
Msg #21704 Dated 13:03:02 10-03-91 21678 <--> 21722
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
This settlement thing on the Nuevo DeCarlo is driving me bonkers.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!! And
the lawyers add money every time they sneeze or *art. I may have to
get a gulp! job. Naaaah. Then who would be the tabman? Guess I'll
continue toughing it out keeping THE FAITH.
Msg #21705 Dated 13:03:08 10-03-91 21679 <--> 21725
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
Hey! He's gonna be working The Music City Conclave.
Msg #21706 Dated 13:03:13 10-03-91 21698 <--> 21707
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: IBM
MD is broke, they say. Brookbank sez today he doesn't think they (MD)
can do the deal so am back to looking. Am going ahead with purchase
of place in Nashvul though and having faith we can sell this place
in a timely fashion.
Msg #21707 Dated 13:03:19 10-03-91 21699 <--> 21736
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: IBM
Great idea. Thanks for the info. We'll go take a look see.
Msg #21709 Dated 13:03:30 10-03-91 21703 <--> 21714
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
At least one Crabbe Crab Cake Recipe.
Msg #21711 Dated 14:32:15 10-03-91 21702 <--> 21735
From: MANNY WELTMAN
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOUDINI?
Hardeen's grandsons wanto do with Hdimagic. They are into Christian
science. e man in Los Vegas going under the name Hardis NOT
reto the family at all, no matter what he may tell you.
Msg #21712 Dated 15:05:12 10-03-91 21686 <--> 21713
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
No, I didn't introduce them, it turned out that most of 'em already
know each other. I'll have to check, but I think that Frogs are spread
more widely over the planet than snakes are. Or at least they were
before lawyers came along.
Msg #21713 Dated 15:06:34 10-03-91 21687 <--> 21734
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
I am a Levite - I was just taking a bit of poetic license. And
Cohannim are just Levites with fancy titles.
Msg #21715 Dated 15:14:00 10-03-91 21688 <--> 22101
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FOOD FOR THOUGHT
I have some apple butter in the 'fridge, but it came from Flat Rock,
NC. What I remember as a kid was dehusking coconuts by tossing 'em on
the tarmack as we walked along the street. Also remember mangoes and
stuff like that. Not many apple trees in Florida.
Msg #21716 Dated 15:15:43 10-03-91 21689 <--> 21797
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Yes, we once bid on a job for the Swiss Railway and it was going to be
a nightmare! Three programs in three languages, each with its own idea
of where the verbs go.
Msg #21717 Dated 15:16:55 10-03-91 21690 <--> 21718
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: VIDEOS
Yep, that "1" puts you in a very select crowd.
Msg #21718 Dated 15:17:36 10-03-91 21691 <--> 21719
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: VIDEOS
OK, the score is a bit better now. Just be careful that you don't come
in second.
Msg #21720 Dated 15:19:26 10-03-91 21693 <--> 22105
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: PILTDOWN MAGIC
I always thought that primeval soup was the provenience of the bio
folk and was a bit too far back for the anthropos types. Onion soup
and primeval brew sound like a perfect combo.
Msg #21722 Dated 15:22:50 10-03-91 21695 <--> 21723
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
The multiplying frogs were at the BEGINNING of the tape - right in the
middle of the Biro's introduction! Speaking of which, make sure that
he follows up with a contract for Nathan. He SAYS he FedX'ed the tape
to Stevens, but I haven't called Joe yet to see if he got it.
Msg #21723 Dated 15:25:06 10-03-91 21704 <--> 21796
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Yeah, lawyers can be like that! I've got a call in to one right now on
something and she ain't called me back yet - probably too busy
sneezing.
Msg #21724 Dated 15:26:46 10-03-91 21696 <--> 22108
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: WINTERS AND BEER
Issue I saw was several paperbacks. Maybe, after you look up dear old
NINETY SIX, SC, you can give me some info on the editor, pub. date,
etc. and I can compare with paperback.
Msg #21725 Dated 15:28:54 10-03-91 21705 <--> 21738
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
OK - MAGIC CITY CONCLAVE IT IS. I'm going to try my hardest to be
there - it is definitely NOT one that should be missed. Just gotta
find a way to cheap transportation without hounds painted on it.
Msg #21727 Dated 15:32:59 10-03-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MULHOLLAND LIBRARY
I have just spoken with the RTC (the holders of the Mulholland
Library) and they plan to HAVE IT GONE by the end of this month! They
are planning to sell it to the highest bidder within the next two
weeks. The buyer will then have about two weeks to have it moved out.
I should have more details soon and will pass them on. Meanwhile, out
of sensitivity to the bid process, I think it would be wise if those
who know details of individual bids, etc. do NOT disclose them just yet
in public messages. I will be happy to coordinate info in private
until some aspects of the bid process are a bit clearer.
Msg #21729 Dated 15:49:58 10-03-91 21673 <--> 21730
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Policy is NO PAY FOR LECTURES... thus lecturer ain't gots to pay
no commission to me on note sales. Tsk ;+)
Msg #21730 Dated 15:50:04 10-03-91 21674 <--> 21737
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Basically here is what happened at IBM San Diego. I had a whole lot
of stuff in my car. The talent chairman of that time rushed up to
me and said, "Can you do a show? For the L A D I E S brunch
tomorrow?"
.
Being the wonderful person that I am I acquie... er aquei... er,
said "Sure!" So, what should I do. I decided to do the mental stuff
that I had been training mine self to do. And decided to use the
Koran mode of entry... the linking rings to get going, make noise
and settle the crowd.
.
Then. The mental tricks. Not sure 100-percent of the order.
.
Alan Shaxon's Confabulation (triple prediction, Car, Color and cost)
Fogel's Second Spot (Psychometry)
Koran's Gold Medalian (No. prediction on a medalian)
One other item I don't recall at the moment.
Also did the Malini Egg Bag (my mock wedding ceremony version)
Msg #21731 Dated 15:50:24 10-03-91 21676 <--> 21767
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
File Express is a $5 shareware I got in a book store, is gooooood.
.
I could copy the format that I use for books, tricks, videos, etc.
Msg #21732 Dated 15:50:30 10-03-91 21677 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: COMEDY STAMPS
I just got a book of the stamps. Don't think I will use them... will
keep. Wish they wuz framable....
Msg #21733 Dated 15:50:35 10-03-91 21680 <--> 21763
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
If it is a Kirby Vacuum I can believe it.
Msg #21734 Dated 15:50:39 10-03-91 21681 <--> 21747
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
It is diffucult to eat anything "on the fly" their wings support
so little and they move so fast.
.
Saw a Samarai movie on flight to Tokyo. Good guy was sitting in
courtyard eating his Gohan (rice). Bad guy came in and threatened
him. Brought out big knife... brandished it....
.
Good guy calmly flicked his chopsticks out to the right and wham...
stuck a fly on the end of the guys knife. Bad guy quivered and
backed away and gone.... har....
Msg #21735 Dated 15:50:51 10-03-91 21682 <--> 22097
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOUDINI?
You enter FISM, you are required to have the President of your
magic assn. IBM, SAM, ETC... sign the form and it is expected by
the FISM 'wigs' that you are certifiying the quality.... you, of
course would not sign a form for a lousy act! Argh....
Msg #21736 Dated 15:50:58 10-03-91 21683 <--> 22094
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: IBM
I gothcr fax but had already talked to DC's secty. and they are
out of the national boundaries then, but she will see if it is
firm. She sounded firm.....
Msg #21737 Dated 15:51:05 10-03-91 21684 <--> 21742
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Remeber Wayne and Shuster's comedy sketches about the "Scarlet
Pumpernickel"?
Msg #21738 Dated 15:51:10 10-03-91 21679 <--> 21807
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
The Magic community has seen me. And there is no way I can live up
to my reputation. Hah.... am working on new olde stuffe.
Msg #21740 Dated 15:51:35 10-03-91 21718 <--> 22103
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: VIDEOS
How can he come in second when Tabby and I hold spots 1 and 2?
Msg #21742 Dated 16:06:59 10-03-91 21729 <--> 21766
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
OK, can Nathan do his notes with crayons and "magic markers"?
Msg #21743 Dated 17:13:46 10-03-91 21603 <--> 21744
From: STAN LAKE
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
Thanks for the help, you've save me much frustration!
Msg #21744 Dated 17:15:59 10-03-91 21625 <--> 21772
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
I'm going to keep a copy of your thread knotting idea and see if I can
make it work for me. I've only been doing the Fugitive Coins trick for
uh, well, er, a week- not 5 or 6 years. I suppose I could continue to
try with better people management but I still think it's a pretty lousy
failure rate. They didn't necessarily suspect something sneaky they
just rightly felt the difference in the sizes of the coins. I'll try
another ten times or so and see what happens. Maybe I should try it on
ten different people instead of the same person ten times in a row? (G)
Msg #21746 Dated 17:40:02 10-03-91 -> 21779
From: JIM SISTI
To: ALL
Re: CARD ERASERS
Several months ago, there was some talk about erasers with playing
cards on them. Does anyone know if they're still available and where
I can obtain a bunch of them?
Msg #21747 Dated 18:04:59 10-03-91 21713 <--> 21780
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
I beg your pardon? Cohanim just Levites with fancy titles? Perhaps I
will lay a hex and banish you from the tribe to suggest the situation
is otherwise.
Msg #21750 Dated 18:36:48 10-03-91 21582 <--> 21783
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
Sounds fine to me. I sure HOPE Pete can make Lance appear. That is one
of the main reasons I'm going. Even if that isn't able to happen though
I'msure the trip will be well worth it with such good company and all.
Msg #21751 Dated 20:42:48 10-03-91 -> 21769
From: DEAN SOULELES
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
Hi,
I'm a relative new-comer to this board and also to the Magic Castle.
I took my regular member audition in June and have really been enjoying
the Castle and all the wonderful Magic I get to see. This board too, is
quite amazing, if only for the sheer volume of messages that goes by.
I try and log-in about twice a week and I hardly have time to
read all the messages. Its great to see such a dedicated bunch of
Magiholics (and I thought I was alone all these years!)
I do have a couple of questions for you T.A. (or anybody else that
cares to answer.) First off, the burning question on my mind is when
is the Castle library going to be finished and open on a regular
basis? In truth, its one of the big reasons I went through the
psychic pain of an audition for regular membership *grin*. If
you don't know yet, what should I do to make an appointment to
see the library (I'll bet I could call you, couldn't I?).
Secondly, can you recommend a good reference on the 100 dollar bill
switch. (I'm not sure what the "official" title is, but the plot is
pretty simple....the Magician borrows a 100 dollar bill and with open
hands folds it up, twists it, and unfolds it to reveal a 1 dollar bill.
I have an idea for a plot-line in which just such a switch would serve
me well).
Well thanks for the time, and the opportunity to be part of this
group.
Msg #21753 Dated 21:44:56 10-03-91 21569 <--> 21754
From: GARY PLANTS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: J.B.
David, I have attempted to contact JB several times in the last
six years. Out of probably a half dozen attempts, I never heard
from JB. I once got a letter from a Pete Mary (Shipping Mgr),
but with absolutely no mention of the Braue Notebooks. I think
what bothers me the most about everything is that even owing people
as much merchandise as he does, he then drops you off the mailing
list. I EVEN purchased the collectors edition of TMWWE from JB.
After about a year I did finally receive it. Was the wait worth it?
I guess purchasing this wasn't enough because I still DO NOT receive
the newsletter. How about the Tamariz book and the Renee Levand
book and the Jose Carroll book? Still not enough for the newsletter.
I have just decided to give up and I certainly WILL NOT EVER order
any more merchandise from JB.
Msg #21754 Dated 21:45:06 10-03-91 21588 <--> 21756
From: GARY PLANTS
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: J.B.
Evan, I have attempted to contact JB with no success. I left a
longer message with David (Sysop) that tells the story. I am just
very unsatisfied with JB at the moment.
Msg #21756 Dated 21:45:21 10-03-91 21644 <--> 21786
From: GARY PLANTS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: J.B.
Tabby, I received a total of 5 issues of which there were to be
a minimum of 15 issues. If I remember correctly, at last count
he was charging $350.00 for subscriptions to the Braue Notebooks.
What a bargin!!! By the way, each of these great issues were
approximately 30, yes, 30 pages. So for $150 you get 150 pages.
You would think if the guy can't produce the product, he would
at least give refunds to ANYONE who subscribed to any of these
"defunct" magazines.
Msg #21758 Dated 21:59:41 10-03-91
From: CY KELLER
To: ALL
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Berger advises in his Haunted Deck Routine NOT to tie a knot in the
thread
Msg #21760 Dated 22:33:00 10-03-91
From: PETE PERATA
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: GAMBLING ROUTINES
I was wondering what other tapes you own are better, cause I was
thinking of looking into some...let me know, thanks!
Msg #21761 Dated 22:34:51 10-03-91 -> 21775
From: PETE PERATA
To: ALL
Re: DERECK DINGLE
I was wondering if any of you know where I can get a hold of "The
Complete Works of Derek Dingle". Paul Diamond had it, but I think he
sold his copy that he had with him. Please let me know.
Msg #21762 Dated 23:08:48 10-03-91
From: MICHAEL STARR
To: ALL
Re: WALSH APPEARING WAND
I am Looking for a Walsh Appearing wand, anybody know where I might be
able to obtain one???
Msg #21763 Dated 23:11:24 10-03-91 21645 <--> 21764
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
The standard rich and famous gig. I would like very much to be
able to make a comfortable living writing and/or performing my music.
I just moved to a 1/2 inch 8-track recorder, so I'll put some things
down and send them to you. Any preferences for style? I've written
well over 200 songs, I've just never tried to do anything with them,
except perform them myself. Any time someone else wanted to do one,
they would have had to have seen my concerts in person.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21764 Dated 23:15:37 10-03-91 21680 <--> 21812
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
That's why I never bought a vacuum cleaner. Who wants a clean vacuum?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21766 Dated 23:22:35 10-03-91 21647 <--> 21776
From: T A WATERS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
You're a musician and YOU'RE asking ME what a fake book is?
Msg #21767 Dated 23:23:27 10-03-91 21731 <--> 21777
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
Pete,
Is File Express Dbase compatible? If you use Dbase files, anyone in
the world would be able to use the files.
Just a thought.
Enjoy
Kevin
Msg #21768 Dated 23:31:02 10-03-91 21640 <-
From: T A WATERS
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Both paperbacks had a chapter where the count was wrong, so they are
equal. Re the Encyclopedia -- the hardcover printing of 5000 is about
sold out, but there are still paperbacks available. Some of the chains
are carrying them, and you can always get the direct from Facts On File
in NYC.
Msg #21769 Dated 23:39:22 10-03-91 21751 <--> 21773
From: T A WATERS
To: DEAN SOULELES (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
As to when the library will be open, that is up to Milt Larsen and his
construction guys; they are going to build a new stairway to it from
the Palace area.
Yes, you can call for an appointment if you have a specific research
project; I am there weekdays.
The best book on the hundred dollar bill switch is "The Hundred
Dollar Bill Switch" by Kozlowski.
Msg #21772 Dated 0:15:42 10-04-91 21744 <--> 21793
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
Why not re invent the trick? Say put something else in their hands
to throw them off? A magic bean? A lucky penny? A piece of paper?
After all, it might need misdirection.
Msg #21773 Dated 0:15:48 10-04-91 21751 <--> 21784
From: PETE BIRO
To: DEAN SOULELES (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
There are many ways to switch a bill. Larry Jennings has a good one
in print. Paul Diamond teaches and sells one. The best I have ever
seen is the handling by Johnny Paul... you can learn it from the
video sold by Joe Stevens. The Kozloski (spelling?) switch with a
thumb tip is very popular and Michael Ammar (often here online) has
a very thourugh video teaching it. Roger Klause has a handling that
is very good. James Lewis (Castle Member) sells the mis-made bill.
.
But my personal gripe is that I don't like the UN NATURAL way the
thumb tip version looks. Too stiff for me. Oh, Jay Marshall does
a non thumb tip version that is excellent.
.
The best tho, is the late Johnny Paul version. Timing, mood, and
atitude are what is needed... and he had it all!
Msg #21775 Dated 0:16:12 10-04-91 21761 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: PETE PERATA (X)
Re: DERECK DINGLE
Try calling Byron Walker in San Leandro.
Msg #21776 Dated 0:16:16 10-04-91 21766 <--> 21810
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Now, now....
Msg #21777 Dated 0:16:20 10-04-91 21767 <--> 21791
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
I have no idea. I do know File Express can be exported to a Word
Perfect file... I think... uh.... duh...
Msg #21779 Dated 1:04:27 10-04-91 21746 <--> 21794
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CARD ERASERS
Argh! (tm - Biro). I have a couple of the playing card erasers that
Kent Cummins sent me - I think he got them from someplace in Chicago.
Kent is not on-line right now, but a message to DAVID LUTHER might get
relayed to him. Also, I think David VanVranken said that he found some
in a store in Las Vegas, so perhaps he can help.
Msg #21780 Dated 1:06:42 10-04-91 21747 <--> 22098
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: ROTH REVIEW
Sorry, but I believe that if you investigate the situation, you will
find that it is true. Cohanim were up-scale Levites.
Msg #21783 Dated 1:10:15 10-04-91 21750 <--> 22161
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS ROOMS
I'm looking forward to the trip - this is going to be some "magiced
out" weekend and week!
Msg #21784 Dated 1:13:46 10-04-91 21773 <--> 21816
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DEAN SOULELES (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
Pete and I have been kicking the Hundred Dollar Bill Switch around on
here lately (incidentally, it can be done with a one to a hundred,
anything to a mismade, or whatever) and I still like the Kozlowski
method with the thumb tip. I don't know if the Kozlowski manuscript,
originally published in 1977, is still available, but I think that the
contact for it might be Jay Marshall and I believe his number is
800-EDI-BULL.
The Michael Ammar tape on it is really excellent in my opinion. You
can contact Michael about it by leaving him a private message on here,
or you can leave a private message for BURT CARPENTER. Burt has it
available and he donates 10% to help support MAGIC!. The tape is, I
believe, $35. And while you are at it, you might want to order the
companion tape on the Floating Bill & John Cornelius' Coin That Falls
Up.
Msg #21786 Dated 1:23:27 10-04-91 21753 <--> 21811
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: J.B.
Apparently the delays at J.B.'s have been discovered by a number of
magi. Did you order TMWWE pre-publication? I ordered mine after it
was out and it arrived very quickly. I would like to think that the
existance of MAGIC! and the open communications on here (over which I
have no control, for which I assume no responsibility, and concerning
which I deny any liability) will let dealers know that negative things
that happen will likely be reported and commented on. Maybe, in the
long range, that will help when such things occur.
Msg #21789 Dated 1:40:48 10-04-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: S.A.M. BOOK AWARDS
The S.A.M. Hall of Fame and Magic Museum has announced its book awards
for publications in 1990. The 1990 Henry Ridgely Evans Award for
History was given to Dr. Bart Whaley's Who's Who In Magic: An
International Historical Guide (published by Jeff Busby Magic, Inc.).
Awards were not made in the other two categories - Literary and
Scholarship.
Msg #21790 Dated 1:52:05 10-04-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MAX MAVEN PERFORMANCE
For those who are attending the MAX MAVEN performance at the Ice House
this Sunday (Oct. 6th) evening and who have made reservations to be a
part of the MAGIC! group - the reservation is in my last name
(Lichtman). We need to be at the Ice House (24 N. Mentor Avenue,
Pasadena, Ca) by >>> 8:15 P.M. <<<. Dress is "casual but neat"
according to the management. The show is $7.50 plus a two drink
minimum. SEE YOU THERE!
Msg #21791 Dated 2:37:44 10-04-91 21777 <--> 21824
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
I don't mean to get into the esoteric areas of the wonderful world of
computing. If it can export to Word Perfect, than it can probably
export to an ASCII file. (Much like we write to one another here.)
Dbase has a fairly simple way of reading ASCII files.
Out of curiousity, does a file that is made with your program end in
"DBF" as in "Magic.dbf"? It might be using the same format that
Dbase uses. If you want to send me a file, and have me check it out,
I would be most happy to. I could also program a Dbase or Smart
program to do exactly what you want.
Whatever you want to do just tickles me pink!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21792 Dated 5:59:22 10-04-91 -> 21795
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
I use the "Fugitive Coins" all the time. It's a great one-on-one
effect. I first read about it in Richard's Almanac (#21, I think) and
fooled with it but didn't really start to use it until I saw it again
on one of Roth's videos.
Usually people are absolutely flabbergasted. It gets good reactions
because people are so convinced that they actually held the quarter and
half. The only time I've come close to getting "caught" was the time
I did the routine for my mom of all people. She told me that the one
coin just didn't feel like a quarter (she was actually talking about
the half, the smaller of the two coins she held), but didn't know how
I got the coins to change places. One thing about my mom is that she
is a very small person, 4'9", and thus has very small hands. Anyway
the whole incident got me to thinking about the whole routine, so I
added a couple of things. First I use the Kaps subtlety twice during
the routine to show that my hands are "clearly" not holding anything
extra, just in case someone has that idea. Don't over do it. I just
make a point while gesturing with my hands at one point and, at
another, it is while I'm indicating to keep the hands separate.
Second, I never directly say anything about size. Instead, while
initially showing the coins, I make several comments about the
differences between the two coins, including the fact that the half is
worth twice as much as the quarter (suggesting that perhaps the half is
twice as big as the quarter!).
Oh, one other thing. When I first started playing around with this
I got the wrong 5 peso piece (a whole roll of them!). It turned out to
be smaller than the one required, as a matter of fact it is only a
little bigger than the half. The ones I have now are dated 1957 and
are 72% silver. They are 1-3/8 inches in diameter and have Hidalgo on
them. I got them for about $3 a piece at a local coin shop.
Don't give up on it, it is a fantastic routine.
Charlie
Msg #21793 Dated 6:55:43 10-04-91 21772 <--> 21814
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
It could be it needs something else, misdirection or whatever. I was
hoping someone else on line here has actually done the Roth version and
could say either they have had problems too and moved on to something
else or that they haven't had any problems so I should continue to work
on it and perfect it. I'm going to a seminar this weekend where I'll
meet lots of people so I'll really put it to a test.
Msg #21794 Dated 7:00:30 10-04-91 21746 <--> 21815
From: STAN LAKE
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CARD ERASERS
Several months ago I saw some in a Thrifty drug store in Fresno. I
would assume they supply most of their stores with the same stuff. It
was in the toy department.
Msg #21795 Dated 7:05:15 10-04-91 21792 <--> 21818
From: STAN LAKE
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Thank you for your excellent information on the Fugitive Coins. I use
the 1956 five peso piece. Roth suggested the 1955 or 1956 and I
thought I remembered him saying the 1957 was too large. They aren't
very standard as to their minting from year to year. However, I just
measured my '55 and it is the same diamater as your '57. Anyway, the
Kaps subtelty is a clever touch. I'm saving your message and work on
it. Thanks!
Msg #21796 Dated 7:13:41 10-04-91 21475 <--> 21803
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I thought they were frongs...I am not familiar with the Hopzinser
fwog monte...does it use an extra frong or an extra fwog? ...and
what does one do in lieu of the "bend corner" con? Amphibians often
are adverse to having their corners bent.
Msg #21797 Dated 7:13:55 10-04-91 21476 <--> 21802
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Message received....howsomever I was waiting 24 hours since I
anticipated an appeal, another motion, or some such crazy California
legal loophole through which said party might escape thereby
realizing success although he seemingly has difficulty getting out of
boxes.
Msg #21799 Dated 7:14:39 10-04-91 21478 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: EVEN MO MOJO!!! YO!
It was no secret...I read it on the wall of a public restroom.
Another bit of wisdom posted there was...
Beware of Greeks bearing Trojans.
Msg #21800 Dated 7:14:49 10-04-91 21479 <--> 21828
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TOPIT
Basically, it was simply a matching egg bag inverted opening down
over the bottle behind the bar. He did the egg bag routine, went
behind the bar with the bag dropping it as he came up with the other
bag and bottle which he produced immediately. Simple, direct, and
deadly. It was in his lecture notes.
Msg #21802 Dated 7:15:42 10-04-91 21483 <--> 21809
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Peter!
WC's fake cuss words were legendary!
...just as the cigar boxes and other original juggling bits.
Msg #21803 Dated 7:15:53 10-04-91 21484 <--> 21805
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Is Organic one of the Baltic states? ...or an emerging country
someplace else. Hungry I know although your egg foo you does not
particularly titillate mein palate. Hemmingway and I disagree on
moveable feasts.
Msg #21804 Dated 7:16:06 10-04-91 21485 <--> 21806
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Why not just send all the attendees to Tiajuana and have the acts
perform with the hawkers as everyone is waiting to cross back into
the states? The dealers would fit right in as well. We wouldn't
need a theater, hotel or any facilities.
Msg #21805 Dated 7:16:18 10-04-91 21498 <--> 21825
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I never knew Faith well enough enough to "have" her, although her
sisters were an absolute delight...I dug the "con in _SLC_ although
I knew not to what it refered...I thought we would be importing frogs
to handle the locusts this time around.
Msg #21806 Dated 7:16:31 10-04-91 21502 <--> 21848
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Great story! sounds like something Hearst would have done (he
probably did!)
Knowing who our main man is on the comedy club techs, I would hope
you would refrain from telling such stories in the future. His
craftmanship abilities are world reknown and with you planting such
thoughts the hotel in SLC may suddenly find itself renovated to
accommidate our comedy club.
Msg #21807 Dated 7:16:49 10-04-91 21520 <--> 21836
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
Regarding this thumb tip versus no thump tip switch business...
While the manner of presentation can make this a meaningless
discussion I think the core of this can be focused on what might
be an interesting point!
What I think is being said here is that Ryan, Paul, Mullica, etc
presented the switch so entertaining that no one cared to think about
where the other bill might be...that simply was not the point of the
effect. I mean are we really fooling anyone? Does anyone think for
a moment that the switch of the one to a hundred (or whatever) is
done any other way than a clever switch? Does not the use of the
tip offer a temptation for the switch to be presented as a challenge?
Is there not a very thin line here the crossing of which is asking
the spectator to "find out where the other bill is". My point is
that once again we are falling into the trap of arguing method when
the important facet is the presentation and appearance of the effect.
Either method is excellent if the presentation is done properly. By
the same token, neither method will suffice if the presentation is
not proper.
Msg #21809 Dated 7:18:24 10-04-91 21601 <--> 21826
From: BILL WELLS
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I recall his use of "Mother of pearl", however I never associated it
with M/F since I thought that piece of profanity came into usage
during the '70s or '80s, long after Mr. Field's passing (hopefully
not to Philadelphia).
Msg #21810 Dated 7:18:36 10-04-91 21654 <--> 21813
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
Buy a file cabinet for the paper and paperback stuff. Get dividers
and put A-B-Cs on 'em and file 'em that way. Other method is to
get the cardboard file boxes (you know like they put software manuals
in) and file the paper backs in them and put em on your shelves. I
use both. Lecture notes are in file cabinet as are manuscripts and
instructions. Small paperbacks in file boxes as are magazines and
other periodicals. Recently I have been putting old, little used
stuff in xerox boxes and storing in attic (such as Linking Rings and
Abras) I can't afford more shelving and don't have room for it if I
could. Besides, got to have room for computer, railroad and modeling
books!
Msg #21811 Dated 7:29:46 10-04-91 21756 <--> 21817
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: J.B.
I'm slow too with my table work, Gary, (getting faster though and
working alla time onit) but I communicate and would be happy to
give a refund to anyone who got tired of waiting or who didn't
like my work. This is one of the reasons that the Tennessee move will
be a good one since we'll have a much larger shop and should be able
to have the bench room for more than one or two pieces at a time.
Content wise, have you been happy with the Braue material. Is the
stuff "usable" or is it held historically only. Hard to imagine that
he has dropped a great customer like you from the mailing list. You
are on my mailing list whether you buy anything or not. Am sorry
to hear about all this.
Msg #21812 Dated 7:29:58 10-04-91 21763 <--> 21838
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Of course, I am looking for "hits" (isn't everybody) and my best
connects are in Country Music and hard rock, though a hit is a hit is
a hit. I can't make any promises other than I'll listen. I always
want to like everything I hear. If it hits me between the eyes I can
run them up the flagpole and see if anybody salutes. You never know.
You said some local groups had recorded some of the stuff. Any chance
of getting a copy of this
Msg #21813 Dated 7:30:06 10-04-91 21766 <--> 21837
From: TABBY CRABB
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
That's funny.
Msg #21814 Dated 7:30:10 10-04-91 21772 <--> 21832
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
Use a "jumping" bean for the magic bean idea.
Msg #21815 Dated 7:30:14 10-04-91 21779 <--> 21877
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CARD ERASERS
I wasn't gonna tip this, but since it's you....call U.S. Toy Co, Inc.
at 1-800-255-6124 or (816) 761-5900 and ask them for their Carnival,
Decoration and Party Catalog. They gots the erasers plus thousands
of other related items.
Msg #21816 Dated 7:30:20 10-04-91 21784 <--> 21833
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
When did Magic, Inc. get an 800 number? I think the correct area code
is 312.
Msg #21817 Dated 7:30:25 10-04-91 21786 <--> 21822
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: J.B.
I ordered my regular copy (since I am a regular guy) of TMWWE at
the pre-publication announcement and got it for something like 24.95
but there was a long wait (I didn't mind) before I got it. I was
somewhat dissapointed that there was no dust jacket on the book but
none had been promised so no problem. I probably wouldn't have bought
it for the 40+ price that it finally settled at so am glad I got it
when I did as I really like the book and am glad it's in the library
here.
Msg #21818 Dated 7:30:34 10-04-91 21792 <--> 21834
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Is this what I've been calling "Charlie's Quarter Fooler"? It sounds
like it and you're right, it is good. I've had a lot of fun with it.
Do you have the book, _Magic Circle Magic_ down there in the H&R
stacks? MO called me last night and he is finally back. His son
couldn't remember who called (I'll bet it was you) so callem again.
Best time is around 10pm in the evening. He said that he has the
shuffle going well again and he is looking forward to getting 2gether
with you. Do me a favour, when you get my check please send me a
paid inv since I'm writing this stuff off as reference material
(it really is). Talk about coincidences, as I am writing the UPS
truck pulls up and delivers a box from you with the bound JINX and
the T. Nelson Downs stuff in it. Beautiful. Thanks a lot. See ya.
Msg #21820 Dated 9:32:32 10-04-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LUTHER (X)
Re: KENT
Ee;21779
DAVID.... Would you be so kind as to pass on a H U G E thanks a
million to Kent for the "ARGH" T-Shirt he sent on to me. I have
almost gotten out of the habit of writing and using snail mail (the
Post Office) that I am now embarrased! And again, it was nice to
see you at Balt.... adios.... no argh's from here today...
Msg #21822 Dated 9:33:01 10-04-91 21786 <--> 21849
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: J.B.
HAY.... is the Magic Castle Swap Meet on this weekend? Try to find
me a Paul Fox Beer Trick.
Msg #21824 Dated 9:33:11 10-04-91 21791 <--> 21900
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
Gee I hate to see you turn Pink.... uh, if I had your mailing address
I could send you a floppy of the program. What size disk?
Msg #21825 Dated 9:33:15 10-04-91 21796 <--> 21831
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
If you hold one up to the light you will see the difference is
internal. Brain size.
Msg #21826 Dated 9:33:21 10-04-91 21797 <--> 21829
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Did you get a copy of the official notice from Browne III? He
circulted many, including the former? AA Pilot (AA=American Airlines)
Msg #21828 Dated 9:33:31 10-04-91 21800 <--> 21842
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: TOPIT
I remember now. Hey, I just heard Mullica has a "backer" and is
going to move to Vegas as soon as his run at the Crazy Horse is
over and will have a TOMFOOLERY type set up in a casino! I sure
hope so... that is what he needs. Tommy H A T E S Paris... he
almost won't even go out of the apartment. Just eat, sleep and
work!
Msg #21829 Dated 9:33:40 10-04-91 21802 <--> 21830
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
The spelling is FINNEY.
Msg #21830 Dated 9:33:44 10-04-91 21802 <--> 22102
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I have a tape of WC doing the Cigar Boxes... priceless! People do
not realize (because he was so funny) that he was a world class
SKILL juggler. His skill was as good as ANYONE I HAVE EVER SEEN.
Msg #21831 Dated 9:33:50 10-04-91 21803 <--> 21847
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Movable feast. What a great name for a catering business... wow,
makes me want to start one. Trubble is I only got one recipe so
far. Egg Foo You. (Maybe should rename it) Egg Fo' You...?
Msg #21832 Dated 9:33:56 10-04-91 21814 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS & SPIRIT M
I'll HOP right to that....
Msg #21833 Dated 9:34:00 10-04-91 21816 <--> 21843
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
Thass what I thot... Jay with an 800 number... hahah... he is over
in England "seeing shows" right now... hahah
Msg #21834 Dated 9:34:05 10-04-91 21818 <--> 21835
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
There is a great TRIVIA question (at least to me!!!!!!) about the
book, "Magic Circle Magic"... the question is: Where does MY NAME
(Biro) appear in the book? After you find it and tell me the correct
answer I have a very funny (to me) anecdote that ties in.
Msg #21835 Dated 9:34:12 10-04-91 21792 <--> 21844
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Any chance of posting a brief of the ROUTINE?
Msg #21836 Dated 9:34:17 10-04-91 21807 <--> 21845
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
The swith... or any switch... has to be thought out like a real
gambler would do a switch. When NOBODY is paying attention. That is
the problem most magi don't understand.
.
My "source" for gaming timing and psychology in Nevada says,
"Magicians are dumb, they work and work and work on moves so they
can be done while someone is looking at them. Gamblers don't work
so hard on the moves as they do on how to keep people from looking
at them at the "moment", therefore do things seemingly indetectable".
.
That is why I HATE THE THUMB TIP BILL SWITCH. No one, no one ever
has fooled me with it because the body language, hand positions,
the grip, the gaze, the moment -- everything reeks THEY ARE DOING
SOMETHING.
.
But Jim Ryan and Johnny Paul FOOLED THE CRAP OUT OF ME with thier
bill switching routines. Johnny would grab a bill, fold it a couple
of times and just rip it to pieces. No posing, no moves. He would
toss it on the floor. And sometimes he had a guy acting like a
Janitor that would JUST HAPPEN BY with a little broom and handled
dust pan, sweep up the pieces and take off!
.
Now that's Bar Magic to the Nth... he will surely be missed.
.
Also I NEVER CAUGHT HIM GET READY with his floating bill, the one
that jumped up off the table into a glass, or ran across the bar.
I NEVER saw the hook up, never saw the get ready or the clean up.
.
I almost wish he hadn't taught it on his tape. (Which I just pulled
out to RE LOOK AT to confirm what I have just written.
Msg #21837 Dated 9:34:48 10-04-91 21810 <--> 22096
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FORCE BOOKS
My Lecture Notes and Instructions are going to be tough. I think I
will put each into a standard size envelope, label it and then put
into a file cabinet like you suggest. Not sure where I have room
for a cabinet though.... Have started computer listing my CARD books
now, then the RARE section goes next followed by Gambling, Juggling,
Vent and Funny.
.
After that the Video stuff and SOME DAY the Toy collection books
and the Auto Library.... ARgh...
.
How many knew that Jones, Lloyd, in addition to his amazing magic
library ALSO had a huge Mystery Story collection. I wonder where
that went???? Hmmmmmm. Got to call Byron. Interesting (if you care
about such things) Byron's ANTIQUARIAN collection is larger than my
ENTIRE collection, and his GAMBLING section is larger than my entire
collection also....
Msg #21838 Dated 9:35:06 10-04-91 21812 <--> 21846
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
OLTAB.... just noted someplace in my reading that a close up
table/pad COULD have a slick (formica woodgrain) BACK for those
that do dice stacking... Hmmmmm
.
Crandall used to stack the dice on his briefcase (when not at the
bar). I love dice stacking and do a bunch of nutty stuff, but when
I saw the guy at FISM I went ape... he wound up stacking 1-foot
size dice with a waste basket!!!! He had more combinations than I
can even think about or rememeber....
.
Time's a flyin' when you're havin' so mu' fun, yo....
Msg #21839 Dated 10:05:25 10-04-91 -> 21855
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: TRIAL BY FIRE
TRIAL BY FIRE?
Ted Maskel, a San Francisco-based "fire eater" is undergoing a
trial for a drunk driving charge. Maskel claims he was not drunk,
but had been "fire eating" and the Kerosene he spits out in his
flaming finish... is what caused the "drunkometer" to give a high
reading. He was riding a motorycyle home after performing for
three hours in Golden Gate Park.
.
Soooo.... during his trial at San Francisco's Hall of Justice,
his legal person requested the Judge and Jury come outside...
where Maskel performed his "act".... (this was on CNN).... then
they went inside, hooked him up to the Breathaliser Machine and
the reading was so HIGH it BLEW THE MACHINE UP !!!!!
Msg #21841 Dated 10:38:02 10-04-91 -> 21858
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
MAGIC!-NL Fri 04 Oct 91 11:36
Tommy Wonder posted the following msg:
Hello Stan,
Concerning the Fugitive coins, have you ever tried to do this
with all foreign coins? Some people might be a little too
conversant with sizes of american coins(at least in the states).
With all foreign coins, I think the change that they might notice
that the do not
hold the same coins as you showed them before will be much less.
---
* Origin: MAGIC!-NL, Home of the wizards, +31-23-388725 (2:0/0)
---
Msg #21842 Dated 10:56:19 10-04-91 21828 <--> 21861
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TOPIT
Great Scot! A TOMFOOLERY in VEGAS now that WOULD be great. That is
excellent news. Man, he'd have a ball and so would the rest of the
crowd that would mob the place each night. Good, good news!!!
Msg #21843 Dated 10:56:24 10-04-91 21833 <--> 21851
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
I had an 800 number for five years and only people who used it
(besides my sons) were people who wanted to call and BS for an hour.
BP put it on their promo and the groupies almost wiped me out. Yar!
Msg #21844 Dated 10:56:29 10-04-91 21834 <--> 21857
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Am hoping Charlie has _Magic Circle Magic_ so will look for the BIRO
reference. Funny you should mention it, I found you referenced in a
book the othre night but can't remember which book it was. The Berg
Book? What else have I been looking at lately? _Learned Pigs and
Fireproof Women_? Seems like I remember hearing BIRO when in England
referring to some everyday article. I'll have to think about it.
Msg #21845 Dated 10:56:37 10-04-91 21836 <--> 22394
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILL SWITCH
When nobody is looking is the key. I taught Bryan (BP lead guitar)
an easy bottom deal last week and he told me yesterday he used it to
literally BEAT THE PANTS off his girlfriend in a game of strip poker.
Who says this stuff is useless?
Msg #21846 Dated 10:56:43 10-04-91 21838 <--> 21864
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
That's a GREAT IDEA re: the slick surface on the back of the close-up
table. As you know I use crap table wool on the flip side just to
finish em out beautifully. Would it have to be formica (I have a
thing about using pressed paper and plastics)? Could it just be a
slick finished wood underside. I'm not a dice stacker so don't
really know what exactly you need. I'd been thinking about using
some walnut burl veneer on flip sides for a delux thing. Would the
little "smokestack" feet get in the way? In a few days we can TALK
ABOUT THIS STUFF IN PERSON. Really looking 4ward. Mucho gusto.
Msg #21847 Dated 11:22:55 10-04-91 21805 <--> 21897
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Hmmm... I think you were around when I did my report of the orgy at the
muses' senior prom. Faith, of course, was not there, but there is a
vague similarity to that tale. Frogs could easily handle the locusts,
which is a matter that caused at least one major mage some problems.
In a very famous ten act production show, he had to get the frogs off
stage six acts before he did the locust production. You will no doubt
recall that this show got rave reviews and that one of the dance
numbers gave rise to the famous Faro Shuffle (originally named the
Pharaon Shuffle). How's that for a tale to go with your morning
coffee?
Msg #21848 Dated 11:44:49 10-04-91 21806 <--> 22399
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
You is right - tech might have too good an eye for the wood at the
hotel. Best con I ever ran was one for creative kids. We had a hotel
that had a wing that was being renovated right after we left, so we
could let 'em write on the walls, do murals, you name it.
Msg #21849 Dated 11:53:42 10-04-91 21817 <--> 21850
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: J.B.
Ordering something pre-publication often means that there will be some
delays. You paid a lot less for that reason. But if the delay proves
to be much longer than expected the dealer should offer folks the
alternative of having their money returned.
I too am very glad I have a copy of TMWWE (I have the limited edition)
and have found it to be a most interesting, fascinating book. I was
amazed at the massive level of detail that was provided, at the work
that went into it, and found it compelling reading. I never really
regarded it as "proof" that Andrews was Erdnase and I'm glad that
someone as knowledgeable as T A took the time to review and comment on
it.
Msg #21850 Dated 12:01:34 10-04-91 21822 <--> 21856
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: J.B.
Yep, Castle Swap is this Saturday! Will try to look for Paul Fox Beer
Trick for you. Give me some info on how to recognize the genuine
article.
Msg #21851 Dated 12:03:54 10-04-91 21816 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CASTLE LIBRARY
You could be right - I was doin' the number from memory and thought it
was an 800. I do have an address: Magic Inc., 5082 Lincoln Ave.,
Chicago, Ill. 60625.
Msg #21855 Dated 12:36:14 10-04-91 21839 <--> 21866
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIAL BY FIRE
Thanks for the news, Pete. Has the court made a decision about his
drunk driving charge?
Msg #21857 Dated 12:43:18 10-04-91 21844 <--> 21863
From: STAN LAKE
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
There is an old picture of you in the back of "Introduction to Coin
Magic". You're in a top hat pulling a giant half dollar from inside
your jacket.
Msg #21858 Dated 12:45:45 10-04-91 21841 <--> 21860
From: STAN LAKE
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Say... that's not a bad idea! I'll give it some thought if this next
round of tests doesn't give me any better results. Just off hand I
wonder if foreign coins would raise suspicion. Don't know, but I think
it just might work better for the reason you mentioned. Thanks!
Msg #21859 Dated 12:48:10 10-04-91 21849 <--> 21865
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: J.B.
I agree. Was glad to get book and glad to get to read TA Water's
review of same. In fact, I wish Darwin Ortiz would make some comments
also.
Msg #21860 Dated 14:04:36 10-04-91 21841 <--> 21869
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Tommy. Would you be interested in working the PCAM Convention
this next summer. I don't have the dates, but had a meeting with
them last night and suggested your name and they all got excited.
IT will be in Asilomar, Calif. which is near Monterey, about 2
hours drive South of San Francisco. If you wish me to let them know
your interest I will do so. And I will try to get the dates from
them next time I hear from anyone on their committee.
Msg #21861 Dated 14:04:45 10-04-91 21842 <--> 21871
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TOPIT
Only a rumor about TFoolery....
Msg #21863 Dated 14:04:55 10-04-91 21844 <--> 21868
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
The "every day" article is a major clu
Msg #21864 Dated 14:04:59 10-04-91 21846 <--> 21874
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Shiny, slick anything is fine... Formica was just mentioned by
someone else. Glass would be ULTRA COOL, over the green! Can't be
anything that would skuff, the wood would have to have a killer
hard finish and I don't know what other than the stuff theyu put
on ships hatches to make tablke tops in bars would work. Verithane?
The leather cup skuffs. But whatever BARS are finished with works
as Crandall and many many others did dice stacking on old bar tops.
Msg #21865 Dated 14:05:09 10-04-91 21850 <--> 21867
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: J.B.
Any beer can with lid cut away. There are two metal rings that
are the size of the end of the beer can. One ring holds a paper
tubular gaff onto the other ring, which has a top on it. In other
words when set into the end of the beer can, there seems to be
a top, covered with confetti. I hope this is clear. IE it is a
load chamber that fits into a beer can. Or coke... 7UP, etc
Msg #21866 Dated 14:05:18 10-04-91 21855 <--> 21889
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIAL BY FIRE
Not yet... that "outdoor" hearing was on CNN yesterday. Will check
the local SF area news tonite... working all day like a fool on
IBM talent contracts. Does Nathan have a Social Security number?
Msg #21868 Dated 14:05:30 10-04-91 21857 <--> 21873
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
There is? I didn't know I looked like Tabby. Are you sure this
message was for me (Biro) and not the Tabman??? Yeah, I know the
Futagawa book and that pic... fun fun fun....
Msg #21869 Dated 14:05:36 10-04-91 21858 <--> 21994
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
OK where do I find out what the routine is on Fugitive Coins?
I am Curious, Yellow? No.
Fred Kaps used a gag line with the chinese sticks. They were
painted Red and Yellow. He used to say Yellow is the color of Love.
Red is the color of Happiness (in China)... then he, in his broken
English would say, "That does not mean that all Chinese that are
Yellow are in love... or that all Chinese that are Red are happy...
Msg #21870 Dated 14:05:45 10-04-91 21859 <--> 21875
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: J.B.
We need to query Mr. M when in Vegas, who probably has traced some
of the even older dudes back to the days of old Erd....
Msg #21871 Dated 14:52:46 10-04-91 21861 <--> 22390
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TOPIT
Well, it's a good rumor. Was writing this when you called. Am stunned
but we will do sumptin for sure.
Msg #21873 Dated 14:52:55 10-04-91 21863 <--> 21990
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
Have been searching my memory for the clu as I know I have heard it
somewhere in England. Yo name is used much over there.
Msg #21874 Dated 14:52:59 10-04-91 21864 <--> 21898
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Rudy jest called and found the rope so will throw it in the case
and bring out. Glad to know that I am welcome as long as I have the
trick with me. I know the stuff you are talking about for finish
bars, coffee tables, etc but don't know the name. Could maybe put
some of that stuff over the green. Dunno. Man, you tore me up with
that call. Don't mention it as this is a PUBLIC message but tore
up and p'off. Man, oh man. Got to get outa my deal. Man, oh man.
Msg #21875 Dated 14:53:08 10-04-91 21870 <--> 21887
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: J.B.
Looking 4ward to seeing Mr. M in Vegas. See you next Wednesday at
the airport.
Msg #21876 Dated 17:17:08 10-04-91 21447 <-
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: BARRY GITELSON (X)
Re: DISKMAGIC
Barry, to order _The Compuerized Magician_ disk described in message
#21503 send $15.00 plus $1.50 postage and Handling to Burt Carpenter,
23900 Ironwood Ave #B-126 Moreno Valley, CA 92557. 100% of the profits
will go toward new equipment for MAGIC!
Msg #21877 Dated 17:20:37 10-04-91 21746 <--> 21967
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CARD ERASERS
I brought up the subject first after finding them in a gift shop in Las
Vegas. They were only about $1.00 each. The name of the place was the
Gift Emporium on Las Vegas Blvd. They are probably listed in
information. Las Vegas is area code 702. If you have thought of a good
effect for them please let me know.
Msg #21883 Dated 20:43:46 10-04-91 -> 21909
From: DENNIS PIERCE
To: ALL
Re: ATLANTA
I am looking for info on any rings or shops in Atlanta. Business brings
me there this week and I notice that there is a shop listed in the
yellow pages (via local library), that there is a shop in the city, any
help?......
Msg #21887 Dated 21:45:54 10-04-91 21865 <--> 21888
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: J.B.
OK, I will try to look for it. Are there any distintuishing marks that
will identify it as genuinely Pauls?
Msg #21889 Dated 21:49:53 10-04-91 21866 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIAL BY FIRE
Yes, Nathan DOES have a social security number! Do you need it before
you send the contract? Or do you just want us to put it on when he
signs?
Msg #21897 Dated 22:29:05 10-04-91 21847 <--> 21901
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
You mean they went toad to toad?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21898 Dated 22:35:55 10-04-91 21812 <--> 21899
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
I'll check it out and see if I can get a recording. If I just get your
words of wisdom on the music, I'll consider any time spent to be well
spent! I think you'll like what you hear, I just don't know if it will
hit you between the eyes. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't.
It seems to depend on the person. (now isn't that the most original
thought you've heard all day?)
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21899 Dated 22:39:13 10-04-91 21864 <--> 21910
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
I guess this would really be to Tabby. I do some glass blowing and
glass forming, If you want to try something like that, just describe
what you want, and I'll see if I can't make something for you.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21900 Dated 22:41:21 10-04-91 21824 <--> 21919
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
Pete,
Kevin E. Curtin
3058 Flanders
Riverside, CA 92507
(714)788-5057. I have both 3.5'' and 5.25'' inch disks, , so it
doesn't matter except that if it is 5.25'' it can't be high density.
(Must be 360K).
If you want to include all the parameters you would like to include,
maybe I could try my hand at creating a standard format for anyone who
wants to add to the data base.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21901 Dated 23:31:02 10-04-91 21897 <--> 21924
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Nope! Toads and Frogs is different beasties (but I did enjoy the
pun!). However, within the context of the story, you might say they
went Frog to Phrog.
Msg #21902 Dated 0:49:58 10-05-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC-57
The fifty-seventh set of MAGIC! messages - #18000 (September 7,
1991) to #18499 (September 11, 1991) - has been transferred to a
downloadable file. The file is named MAGIC-57.TXT. This means that
you can now go to the file area, download this file, and read the
fifty-seventh volume of messages off-line. For those who know how
to use the PKUNZIP system for uncompressing files, there is a
compressed version of this same file. It is called MAGIC-57.ZIP and
is less than 1/2 the size of the full-text version.
Not only will transferring these messages to a file make it easier
for you to obtain a complete set of them, but it will make the
search for new messages easier and faster.
Msg #21903 Dated 1:45:44 10-05-91 -> 21912
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: OFF-LINE
MAGIC! was off-line for less than one hour from 12:53 a.m. this morning
until 1:43 a.m. due to a technical failure. I apologize to anyone who
may have been inconvenienced.
Msg #21909 Dated 7:11:49 10-05-91 21883 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DENNIS PIERCE (X)
Re: ATLANTA
You might try calling Smilemakers Magic Shop in Forest Park (suburb)
at (404)363-9230 to see what's going on in Atlanta or maybe Dan
Garrett Magic at (404) 981-0310.
Msg #21910 Dated 7:11:55 10-05-91 21898 <--> 21911
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
OK, will try to be wise when I listen to your stuff ;+) but I think
that as long as you have talent, sticking to it is the key. Will help
if I can.
Msg #21911 Dated 7:12:02 10-05-91 21899 <--> 21913
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Glass blowing? Hmmmm.
Msg #21912 Dated 7:12:07 10-05-91 21903 <--> 21914
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
I was asleep.
Msg #21913 Dated 8:25:37 10-05-91 21911 <--> 21925
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Kevin isn't alone at glass blowing, Tabby. One of my nephews is a
full-time glass artist.
Msg #21914 Dated 8:26:57 10-05-91 21912 <--> 21920
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
I wish I could have said the same ("I was asleep"). I was involved in
fixing the system.
Msg #21916 Dated 8:40:31 10-05-91 21887 <--> 21917
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: J.B.
NO... no marks... you just have to know the trick. Like if you
know what a linking ring looks like, or a chop cup... you know...
if you see one (which is unlikely) there are no OTHER BRANDS, NO ONE
ELSE EVER MADE IT. I did talk to Danny Dew (who is very weak and
ill) and he said if he recovers he will find one and send me... but
that is not likely... he sounded like he is fading fast.
.
There might be some wax-covered tubular pieces of paper (for the
load) included. It is a 2-percenter that one exists...
Msg #21919 Dated 8:40:58 10-05-91 21900 <--> 21928
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
Do you know Keith Droste? He just moved (about a year ago) out to
the Riverside/Moreno Valley area.
He is a killer musician. Knows (doesn't perform) magic. Wrote music
for Johnny Thompson's act, Norm Nielsen, etc. and wrote a MUSICAL
base on a magic show--almost got produced... and his main job is
conductor for Frankie Avalon. Writes special material for Avalon
and did a pretty good Xmas song, titled, "TOGETHER we will have a
Merry Christmas" that Frankie and Annette recorded.
.
Will check out the disk on FILE EXPRESS, actually will just do a
copy with all my files etc. on the 3.5 disk and mail it to you.
Msg #21920 Dated 8:41:13 10-05-91 21903 <--> 21938
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Boy, I guess I got off just in time at 12:50... heheheheh...
Did the Dodgers lose last night? Can you believe a DODGER/GIANT
game and it was not on TV in San Fran area? ARgh...
Msg #21924 Dated 14:08:44 10-05-91 21901 <--> 21939
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Yeah, I know, but I was hoping that no one else would.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21925 Dated 14:10:41 10-05-91 21910 <--> 21926
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
I appreciate that!
Thanks
Kevin
Msg #21926 Dated 14:11:06 10-05-91 21911 <--> 21933
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
My talents are varied and many (He said modestly) but basically, if you
want something built, I can do it. If the materials are wood, metal,
glass, or ceramics then I have the tools and materials here at the
house to do the job.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21928 Dated 14:13:26 10-05-91 21919 <--> 21951
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
Great on the files.
No, I don't know Keith, but he sounds like a talented guy. Maybe if
you get out to this neck of the woods, I could invite you both over for
dinner some night?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21933 Dated 17:12:42 10-05-91 21926 <--> 21972
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Hmmmmm. What kind of stuff do you do in metal, Kevin? Do you do any
casting? I do a lot of wood stuff and am beginning to get into metal
work. Silver solder on brass but wanna get into milling coins, etc.
We're moving back to Tennessee soon, wish you lived closer.
Msg #21935 Dated 17:36:43 10-05-91 21916 <--> 21936
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: J.B.
Very sorry to hear that Danny Dew is doing so poorly. Will send good
thoughts in his direction.
Swap was kinda so-so this time. None of the things I was looking for
and no beer trick for you. Also, never saw Maria around. Two major
swaps in one day is pretty exhausting - but I did return for the second
with the "loot" - the necessary new equipment for MAGIC! Now it is a
matter of moving everything over, testing, debugging, etc., etc., etc.
Msg #21938 Dated 17:42:24 10-05-91 21920 <--> 21953
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
I think I heard that they lost. Yeah, MAGIC! went a bit bananas last
night. Just need to keep the bailing wire on it a little bit longer,
I hope.
Msg #21939 Dated 17:47:40 10-05-91 21924 <--> 22107
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
OK - Just wanted to make sure! Now we have to see what happens when
Wells hits that message! Should happen on Monday if all goes "Well."
Msg #21940 Dated 17:50:39 10-05-91 -> 21959
From: CINDY SZERLIP
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: FRENCH DROP
Yes, please. I'd like the address for Camarind Academy to order the
Gary Oeullet (sp?) book. I keep reading about his stuff and have little
opportunity to check it out firsthand. Thanks in advance!
Msg #21944 Dated 19:16:05 10-05-91
From: BLAKE CHATFIELD
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: URI GELLER
Sorry to take so long getting back. I went to Magic 91 1/2 in Denver
and afterwards found I have a medical problem which is going to take me
to California next week. I hope to continue hereon, but who knows about
my access abilities there. Thanks for your good words...I have
something for you from the meeting in Denver, and it will come along,
but for now it has to be put on the shelf. All the best...Blake
Msg #21945 Dated 19:18:58 10-05-91 -> 21954
From: BLAKE CHATFIELD
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: URI GELLER
Oh, well..."just a magician" ain't that bad when it comes right down to
entertainment...say hey!
Msg #21946 Dated 19:20:31 10-05-91
From: BLAKE CHATFIELD
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: DURANGO
A little late on the reply -- I've been using that hospital your mom
liked, and so do I. They may have saved my life...I go to California
next week Tuesday to have more tests. I'll let you know. Cortez is a
neat town. I have done two or three shows a summer there in their city
park. They give to their town folk and tourists...And magic
benefits...and so do I. Thanks for the message. C U Later...maybe I'll
get to the Magic Castle again. You might have seen my name listed as
number 260 in the last newsletter. Actually I was about 125, but they
saved a lot of low numbers for the paying group...the early regulars
only paid $25 to join. Now you can't have an evening there for anything
like that! B
Msg #21949 Dated 19:59:45 10-05-91
From: BRUCE SANDERCOCK
To: DENNIS PIERCE (X)
Re: ATLANTA
If your staying downtown, check out the Marriott inside, and the Hilton
just inside the shopping area. Located in both are Magic Masters shops.
Be carefull of the prices though!
Msg #21950 Dated 20:02:52 10-05-91
From: BLAKE CHATFIELD
To: ALL
Re: RIBBON INKER
I have discovered a great gadget fo re-inking fabric printer ribbons.
It is called "E-Zee Inker", costs $39.50 plus $5 for 4-oz of ink, plus
$4 shipping. They also have motor driven models. 30-day unconditional
money-back guarantee. They will sned a brochure. Phone 1-800-553-2404
except Iowa. Borg Industries, Ltd., P.O.Box 508, Janesville, IA 50647.
No, I am not connected with them in any way except as a very satisfied
customer. Try it, you'll like it!
Msg #21951 Dated 20:15:51 10-05-91 21900 <--> 21973
From: EVAN KATZ
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
I got a speeding ticket in Riverside, once. Officer Lane, I believe it
was. If you run into him, no double meaning intended, tell him I say
hello.
Msg #21952 Dated 20:21:06 10-05-91 21935 <--> 21960
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: J.B.
Pete, I heard Danny Dew is in need and maybe I can help him out some.
I'd appreciate it if you'd post his address as I'd like to send him
a small check to help him out. I wish I was in the money right now
but can do a little. Maybe some of the other guys and girls online
here could help out too. I hear he needs medicine, etc and that he
could use some words of good cheer too. Danny is a guy who trusted
everyone and got hurt by his faith. It's alittle late in the game,
but I'd like to do what I can. Thanks.
Msg #21953 Dated 20:21:16 10-05-91 21938 <--> 21957
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
So you got some stuff to upgrade the MAGIC! system. That's great.
Looking 4ward to seeing you in a few days.
Msg #21954 Dated 20:21:22 10-05-91 21945 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BLAKE CHATFIELD (X)
Re: URI GELLER
Hey Blake, most of my best friends are magicians. Best to you.
Msg #21957 Dated 20:31:54 10-05-91 21953 <--> 21961
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Yes, now there is the small matter of transfering programming, files,
etc. ARGH! (tm - Biro). But if all goes well, you will get to admire
the new parts of the system when you get to Techy Heaven. We can't
wait to see you - your room is clean and ready and the shower works.
Msg #21958 Dated 21:02:36 10-05-91 -> 21964
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: DENNIS PIERCE (X)
Re: ATLANTA
Dennis,
Also check Eddie's Trick Shop in the nearby suburb of
Marietta, (404) 428-4314. They used to have a branch
in Atlanta proper as well.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #21959 Dated 21:17:49 10-05-91 21940 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: CINDY SZERLIP (X)
Re: FRENCH DROP
Cindy... I just got Guy Camirand's catalog. Write him at:
Succ. A. P.O. Box 269, Longueuil, QC, Canada, J4H 3X6.
Phone (514) 670-6026 -- $49.50 is the price in US Buckaroos, for
the Close Up Illusions book (post paid). He also lists several
companion videos...
Msg #21960 Dated 21:17:58 10-05-91 21952 <--> 21965
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: J.B.
Danny Dew - 1821 N. Mitchell Street, Phoenix, AZ 85006. His wife's
name is Melba.
Msg #21961 Dated 21:18:04 10-05-91 21957 <--> 21963
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
I'll bet you have some heavy work for the Tabman... hey, when he
gets here I might let him help me fix the sink!
Msg #21962 Dated 21:18:09 10-05-91 -> 21971
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: SWAP MEET
Ee;21958
Hey fun seekers... the Magic Castle Swap meet was today and no
reviews... argh... Musta been some good stuff? Let's hear it....
Msg #21963 Dated 21:32:17 10-05-91 21957 <--> 21966
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Am leaving DeCarlo monday morning around 10 est and arrive LA
in the evening. Will give you a call on the ameche when I get in
so we can figger out wha's happening. We been in the shop solid past
two days finishing up stuff so I can leave with clear conscience.
We closed on Nuevo DeCarlo yesterday via fax so looks like the
tabman will be leaving the old sod for the land of Davy Crockett
and Old Hickory when I get back. Things change I guess and this
way will be able to work closer to the source. Congrats on the new
MAGIC! system. You've proved it could work and helped us all by
doing so. Thanks.
Msg #21964 Dated 21:32:29 10-05-91 21958 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: ATLANTA
Hey Steve,
How's it going?
tabman
Msg #21965 Dated 21:32:35 10-05-91 21960 <--> 21980
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: J.B.
Thanks for Danny Dew's address, Pete. Rudy dropped the rope by
tonight so I guess it's ok to come for a visit, huh?
Msg #21966 Dated 21:32:41 10-05-91 21961 <--> 21969
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Brother, I'll help you fix anything you got that I can fix and I'll
tell you if I can't so not to waste your time.
Msg #21967 Dated 21:46:36 10-05-91 21877 <--> 21975
From: JIM SISTI
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: CARD ERASERS
I've come up with an effect (along with Eric DeCamps) that is being
marketed called "Vampire" that utilizes the erasers. I'll keep you
posted on its availability if you're interested.
Msg #21969 Dated 22:19:12 10-05-91 21963 <--> 21976
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Congrats on closing on Nuevo DeCarlo! And on finishing the shop work.
May the new beginning bless you and Gloria and the citizens of
Krayborg that will be traveling on the journey.
Will be looking forward to your Monday call and hope that you will see
MAGIC! shimmering thru the new network.
Msg #21971 Dated 22:25:08 10-05-91 21962 <--> 21977
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SWAP MEET
Well, I sort of commented in passing on the Castle Swap Meet today.
Just didn't seem to be as many books, etc. as usual. It was very
crowded, but I didn't find the folks I wanted to and, frankly, didn't
see much to buy or swap that snagged my interest. Guess maybe next
time.
Msg #21972 Dated 1:06:03 10-06-91 21933 <--> 21978
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Yeah, me too! You sound like a wonderful person to know. Yes, I do
some aluminum casting at home. I don't have a foundry to do the higher
melts, but it wouldn't take long to put something together. I do sand
casting and lost wax. I also have a welding set-up. (no mig or tig
yet.) I don't have a machine shop setup, but as the money allows, this
to will come.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21973 Dated 1:13:27 10-06-91 21951 <--> 21982
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
Evan,
Is one to assume that you were trying your darndest to get out of
Riverside as soon as possible?
If I meet Officer Lane socially, I'll extend your greetings.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #21975 Dated 8:57:33 10-06-91 21967 <--> 22180
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CARD ERASERS
Checked my usual sources and nada but will check when in Calif to see
if....
Msg #21976 Dated 8:57:39 10-06-91 21969 <--> 21979
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
When my ship comes in am gonna get a laptop so I can check in with
the system when I'm on the road. Would be fun to check into the Magic
Hotel and sign onto MAGIC! and check for Magimail. Krayborgue will
soon fade into the myths of the semi-deranged. I am very happy both
Pete Biro and you had a chance to visit here before the passing. My
family was the third owners of the property since before America
declared her freedom from the tyranny of the English taxes and it wil
return to the former owners, The Charlotte Hall School board which
was established in 1774. It is only right that it should be this way.
Msg #21977 Dated 8:57:50 10-06-91 21971 <--> 21987
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SWAP MEET
Great cover shot on M A G I C magazine this month. Did you read the
editorial. Stan Allen implied that he didn't know that his subtitle
came from THE SPHINX. If he had been paying closer attention to
MAGIC! he would have known as I was pointing this out several months
ago. I hope he was joking. It scares me to think that he is not as
grounded in the history of magic magazine publication as one would
imagine that a publisher should be. Was glad to see some work on
the key effect in Richie Kaufman's column this month and a welcome
departure from the usual card stuff. After last month's GENII (which
was the best yet) I can't wait to see what editor Dante comes up with
for October. Talk to you tomorrow. Bill Larsen was right.
Msg #21978 Dated 8:58:03 10-06-91 21972 <--> 22023
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
You're right! Some folks think I'm a wunnerful person and others
wooden agree with you, but I try to treat folks fair and only f the
f'ers (if you know what I mean). It's a perception thing. I like
Riverside, CA. During the 84 Olympics, Glo and I stayed at a Best
Western there on the main drag for almost two months that year and
really felt at home on the tree lined streets. Next time I come west
we'll have to get together for sure. I'll be there in LA tomorrow,
but only for 36 hours and am jammed up this time or would make a run
out to your city. What kind of welding are you doing? As a kid, my
cousin and I used a torch and coathanger wire to "braze" stuff
together since grandad wooden let us at the brass rods though between
grandad and dad, I learned a lot of shop lore and (hopefully) the
right way to do most things. My dad taught me about hot varnish
finishing and grandad about the zen of sanding wood properly.
Msg #21979 Dated 9:09:49 10-06-91 21976 <--> 21981
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Is it REALLY going to be snapped up for some ancient and wonderful
HIDES by the skool bord? Hey, you get here you got a free laptop to use
for as long as you need it...
Msg #21980 Dated 9:11:45 10-06-91 21965 <--> 21985
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: J.B.
I wuz Hangin' on yo' reeeply! Now we will have a swingin' time. ;+)
Msg #21981 Dated 9:11:50 10-06-91 21969 <--> 21984
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Does that mean you will use windex on the monitor screen?
Msg #21982 Dated 9:11:57 10-06-91 21973 <--> 22035
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: HUSWOY...YOWSUH SPELT BAC
Pleeeeeeeeeeeze change the header.... argh!!!!!! ;+)
Msg #21984 Dated 10:02:00 10-06-91 21979 <--> 21986
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Well, no def word yet, but I believe they will buy it as it is their
last chance to get hold of some of the historical 1774 property they
owned since they sold the land across the road to the state. I have
been practicing prayer and positive affirmation last few weeks and
many wonderful things have been happening. I asked for a sign from
the great spirit. I asfked to be shown a buyer on Friday and the
phone rang at 9am sharp Fri morn and it was the head of board of
trustees telling me they would take a vote on it. Don't see how they
can pass it up, especially with the Divine influences going on. As
you know, I am a believer and act primarily ON FAITH. Great news on
free laptop to use and will take good care of it til I return to you.
Will be offline til this evening as we are busting a** to get work
out before 10am tomorrow. Have a good one....
Msg #21985 Dated 10:02:15 10-06-91 21980 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: J.B.
Gonna be a great visit I know and we will get much done to set things
up for the next year or so. Looking much 4ward to getting to Walnut
Creek.
Msg #21986 Dated 10:02:23 10-06-91 21981 <--> 21988
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
I think the layer of dust on the MAGIC! monitor protex Frog from
UV radiation. At least thatz what he told me.
Msg #21987 Dated 10:28:18 10-06-91 21962 <--> 21995
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SWAP MEET
Pete...I recieved the book, and apprecite you sending ti so promptly.
I'll see you in LV, hopefully. Please send me all of your mailing
info, addresses etc., tel and fax numbers.
I will be working the Magic Castle Oct. 14-21, three shows a night,
hope you can stop up. I have decided where to stay yet, can you
recommend someplace?
Thanks..Geno
Msg #21988 Dated 10:33:25 10-06-91 21953 <--> 21989
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Tabby...sorry I have been so negligent on this dam machine, but I have
to go in a reply to each message online, and my fingers get tired of
doing all the driving. I have PC Plus(procomm) how can I auto log and
auto reply........I hope that makes sense, otherwise do you want to see
a Roseylin G. S. card trick? Just Joshing. I thin that issue is clear
now....She is sompin' else.
Geno
Msg #21989 Dated 10:37:00 10-06-91 21976 <--> 21991
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
I just got a new laptop, but, ultra small, but I have another I want to
let go off...a Sharp 4600 Laptop, with a 40mb hd. Does a great job.
I'll let it go for $1150.
Msg #21990 Dated 10:48:17 10-06-91 21868 <--> 22012
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
I jumped in the middle of the wrong message Pete. It was meant for
you and not Tabby about the Futagawa book.
Msg #21991 Dated 10:47:59 10-06-91 21976 <--> 21992
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
If Krayborgue is returning to the Charlotte Hall School Board, then
that is indeed good. And I too am very glad I got there once. I will
always remember the Cedars of Lebanon paneling in the library, the
beauty of the gaming room, and the original Conjurors Woodworks shop.
But maybe that it how it should be - images stored up in the mind for
the journey forward. The main thing, the loved ones, the citizens of
Krayborgue, are making the journey. Just a little sorry I never did
get to play the golf course.
Msg #21992 Dated 10:54:25 10-06-91 21981 <--> 21997
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
The reason windex has been used sparingly on the monitor screen is that
the Amdek 300 series featured a nylon mesh over the screen to reduce
glare. Which also made it impossible to clean! You'll see the new
setup once the Argh! (tm - Biro) of the effort to transfer everything
that needs to be transferred is complete. It is as complex and
cumbersome as a physical move and I get to play electronic U-Haul.
Msg #21994 Dated 10:50:39 10-06-91 21869 <--> 22014
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FUGITIVE COINS
The routine for the Fugitive Coins is in the Roth Lecture notes and
probably his book as well. The effect is you show a quarter and a half
dollar. You give them both to the spectator to hold behind his back.
He brings out one coin in each fist and hands you the half. You say
how impossible it would be for you to make the coins trade places but
that is exactly what you show has happened. You open your hand to show
a quarter and spectator now holds the half. That's the bare bones of
it. You have the quarter and half in left hand and the 5 peso piece we
were talking about in earlier messages palmed in the right hand.
Shuttle pass of sorts dropping the half into the right hand and retain
the quarter in the left. Hand spectator the half and the larger 5 peso
piece. To him it feels like (Usually!) the quarter and half. He hands
you what he thinks is the half which is really the 5 peso piece.
Shuttle pass again from right to le keeping the 5 peso in the right
hand and holding the quarter which has been in your left all along out
in front (closed fist) for the big finish. There it is, no meat just
bones but you get the idea.
Msg #21995 Dated 10:59:07 10-06-91 21977 <--> 22001
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SWAP MEET
OK, Tabman, you scored a coup! I haven't seen hide nor hair of this
month's M A G I C yet! Been wonderin' what happened. It sounds like
Stan and Patrice got it out on time - maybe someone in the Arleta post
office is readin' it.
Msg #21997 Dated 12:09:36 10-06-91 21988 <--> 21998
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Stay at the Magic Hotel on Franklin right next to the Castle. Will
be staying there Mon night. It's cheap for LA (50 a night for a
"suite").
Msg #21998 Dated 12:09:43 10-06-91 21988 <--> 21999
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
Geno....download RDMAGIC.ZIP (IMP) for offline replys and just
sign on and upload stuff. Will explain when I see you in Vegas and
try to remember to bring a disk of it out to you.
Msg #21999 Dated 12:09:50 10-06-91 21989 <--> 22000
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: OFF-LINE
I have no dough right now but if you still have when Hotel DeCarlo
sells I'll talk to you about it then. Thanx...
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