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Msg #25500 Dated 0:08:17 11-18-91 -> 25505
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
Tabby,
My magic library is woefully inadequete. The only Elliott book I
have is "The Best in Magic."
Maybe when those dollars start rolling in....
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #25501 Dated 0:08:22 11-18-91 -> 25504
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CPU
David,
The best trick I've found for getting to sleep when travelling is
to wear ear-plugs. Apparently strange noises have a lot to do
with traveler's somnolent problems.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #25504 Dated 0:22:31 11-18-91 -> 25511
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CPU
Am sipping as we speak.....Biro-san.....
Msg #25505 Dated 0:22:37 11-18-91 -> 25507
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Please send it......I can't wait to try it....I really do have
a stainless steel pot and Ike Dollars...
Msg #25506 Dated 0:22:43 11-18-91 25469 <--> 25523
From: GENO MUNARI
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
I think Gary Darwin is really a master of the TT. His books are
really worthwhile.....He seems to think that you can't see it, unless
you are really looking for it.....His tel number is (702)648-8826,
and tell him I said to call him....neat guy, great magician, and
has the biggest library in Nevada, except for David Copperfield.
Msg #25507 Dated 0:22:54 11-18-91 -> 25515
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
What effect is it Tabby......I don't have my library here......
Msg #25508 Dated 0:23:00 11-18-91 -> 25521
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: YO BRO
Pleasure indeed.........I found some great rubber golf balls, that
are better than Fakini's in my humble opinion......perfect for
billiard balls.......I bought enough for six sets....Everywhere I
shop I find things that I can't find in the USA......great magic
props.........
Msg #25509 Dated 0:23:11 11-18-91 -> 25522
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
I have a beauty for you.......I am getting some improvements on it,
but should have a sketch ready for you shortly......
Msg #25510 Dated 0:25:53 11-18-91 -> 25513
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: JAPAN
Most interesting! I knew there was a maximum (terminal) velocity, but
I didn't remember the number. Guess I will have to add a line or two
to the program.
Msg #25511 Dated 0:28:14 11-18-91 25501 <--> 25512
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CPU
Thanks. I wonder if those would work on our kid? He has a lot of
trouble sleeping. Maybe a set of earplugs for him and a set each for
Mom and Dad? I have some "Mack's Pillow Soft Earplugs" around, but
they are for a Juan Tamariz routine.
I can basically sleep anywhere, as long as I'm horizontal (I can't
sleep sitting up). I've been known to sleep under coffee tables and
various other pieces of furniture, and on the floor of aircraft.
Msg #25512 Dated 0:42:03 11-18-91 -> 25528
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CPU
The juice sounds great but try to tell my Japanese counterparts that.
I just got finished playing this (drinking) game with a couple
of interesting Japanese celebs...actor Hiromi Go and Yurie Nitani.
Judging the entire spectacle was Kazuo Koike, a noted cartoonist.
If they would only drink juice....the game is something like the
Italian game of Mora' . Wherin you throw your fingers out and guess
the total of all the fingers, including your own, of the other player
s. Interesting to say the least....you can't turn your palm up and u
use the thumb...that's cheating. Hiromi is pretty good....but there
(sic) they are trying to get this American......film at 11:00..
Msg #25513 Dated 0:42:20 11-18-91 -> 25530
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Vini, Vidi, Vici! Yo quiero a la Festiva. A'`me gusto.
Msg #25515 Dated 0:42:36 11-18-91 -> 25516
From: GENO MUNARI
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yes, I believe that slang is universal....and he probably had no
idea of the double entendre' (sic - no spell checker or dictionary)
.....great writer, but seems a man of mystery. I have all of the
Jinx and enjoy them. Wish I had them now.
Msg #25516 Dated 0:42:45 11-18-91 -> 25519
From: GENO MUNARI
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Send me pretty sneaky if you have a chance.....By the way talked to
our friend about the old man...seems to be no problema. Also
the Nikon lens was over $350.00 so I will keep looking....
Msg #25518 Dated 6:47:37 11-18-91 -> 25524
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: STUFF-N-THANGS
I guess it's OK to envy each other and what we do and where we are. I
had such a great time last time I was out on the left shelf with you
guys. It's a trade off I guess.
Msg #25519 Dated 6:47:41 11-18-91 25500 <--> 25520
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
The Elliott books are available for small money from used dealers
like Charlie Randall here on MAGIC! and are all worthwhile as far as
I am concerned.
Msg #25520 Dated 6:47:45 11-18-91 25507 <--> 25525
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Geno, it is the effect of the levitation of a golf ball. The gaffus
involves a thumbtip with a needle soldered to the tip. I substituted
a large fishing cork for the golf ball. Somewhat zombie like in
operation, however it isn't angle proof but great straight on.
Msg #25521 Dated 6:47:50 11-18-91 25508 <--> 25534
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: YO BRO
I haven't been in Japan since 1970 when I stopped over in Tokyo on
the way to Saigon. I bought some Nilon cameras in the Ginza district
and generally enjoyed myself. I'm looking 4ward to the Biro-san Tour
1994. An old friend of mine lives outside Tokyo in an Akido dojo.
I would love to see him again.
Msg #25522 Dated 6:47:55 11-18-91 25509 <--> 25526
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Draw it out in as much detail as you can. Makes it mucho better.
The new fax number is 615-444-0171.
Msg #25523 Dated 8:39:14 11-18-91 25469 <--> 25553
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Frankly yes. No one should be "open" with anything like a thumb
tip or sixth finger... etc.
People DO SEE THESE THINGS IF YOU GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY.
Read Salvano (the fine magician from Poland) on the thumb tip,
and Pat Page... you don't show it. There are subtle ways. Slydini
also has some great handling.
And yes, you are right, a chrome tip is what SHOULD BE USED to
make you work it properly.
There are a few exceptions (but very few)... at FISM Finn Jon
showed a thumb tie... standing right close (12-inches from my eyes
to his hands) he was wearing a thumb tip and I COULD NOT TELL. But,
the tip was custom made, custom painted... and the 'EDGE' was
covered with the cord he had tied around his thumbs.
It even had a nail on it!
Msg #25524 Dated 8:39:29 11-18-91 -> 25548
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STUFF-N-THANGS
Chinese food.
Msg #25525 Dated 8:39:31 11-18-91 -> 25527
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
What do you do with page 20? Roll and stuff into a wad, put into
a gun and shoot someone with it? Must take lots of books to take
care of all the hits!
Msg #25526 Dated 8:39:36 11-18-91 -> 25550
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
Give all your neighbors copies of page 20.
Msg #25527 Dated 8:39:39 11-18-91 -> 25529
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
I had a LATE copy of "New Phoenix" to hand, and Elliott's name was
in it... probably a courtesy by Jasper. Thanks. Now I got to go
through the pile and see if it is a complete set! Argh.
Msg #25528 Dated 8:39:44 11-18-91 -> 25535
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: CPU
Did I spell the wine wrong...? Had three bottles of the real stuff
last night... A Chinese friend of mine (he owns 2 Casinos in Macau)
used to travel with a large pickle type jar full of Chinese
"white lightnin'" -- Boy was it strong stuff... He said it was
much like Sake... I said, yeah, it's the same color!
Msg #25529 Dated 8:39:50 11-18-91 -> 25531
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Almost none of us round eyed folks know about the cars' side of
the road in the land of the rising sun... WHEN YOU TAKE A CAB RIDE
AND SIT IN THE FRONT SEAT... YOU AGE ABOUT FIVE YEARS!
Msg #25530 Dated 8:39:55 11-18-91 -> 25544
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
IT TWILL... you weren't around when I ran "El Cheepo But Goodo
Tours" to past FISM events in Europe!
Msg #25531 Dated 8:39:59 11-18-91 -> 25532
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
What book? did you stumble over... did I miss an earlier message?
Msg #25532 Dated 8:40:02 11-18-91 25500 <--> 25533
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
The Elliott books are not costly... 7 to 10 bucks each... (used, of
course). Leave message for Charlie Randall on line if you wanna get
'em and he probably can seek and find.
Msg #25533 Dated 8:40:07 11-18-91 25505 <--> 25536
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
I am going to scan the pages out of bobo and fax in about one hour
from now. It is 8 ayem calif time....
Msg #25534 Dated 8:40:10 11-18-91 25508 <--> 25629
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: YO BRO
I bought those same rubber golf balls in Japan... only trouble is
the colors change in about three years... keep 'em in airtight
containers when you get back. The Ireland (and Abbott) shells fit
them perfectly.
Msg #25535 Dated 8:40:16 11-18-91 25511 <--> 25541
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CPU
I slept across the Atlantic once, by crawling under the seats up
to the first class section and using a large open space behind the
rearmost seat and the bulkhead between them and Coach.
Msg #25536 Dated 8:40:20 11-18-91 25515 <--> 25537
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
It sounds like you have so much to do and are having so much fun
why in the heck would you want something to read?
Msg #25537 Dated 8:40:24 11-18-91 25516 <--> 25538
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Geno... thanks... the message about the lens was on the board, but
was addressed to "Kevin E Curtin"... but I got it... FORGET THE
LENS...I FOUND OUT THEY ARE CHEAPER IN THE USA.... sounds weird,
but is due to taxes, quantities and deals.... Nice to hear the
"old man" is good.
Msg #25538 Dated 8:40:31 11-18-91 25520 <--> 25547
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
Toss a "chiffon" type see thru silk over the ball and the gaff
will be impossibler to see.
Msg #25539 Dated 8:40:34 11-18-91 -> 25632
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FAX
Ee;25522
Too bad you can't read PCX files on your laptop... or can you?
Could then send artwork, text, etc. instead of using the FAX
machina...
Repeating a message... DO NOT BUY THE LENS OVER THERE... can
get here for $260 in USA... Have you seen Tamura or Maki as yet?
And don't forget, if you have time... VISIT THE AKIHIBARA district,
and the Odobashii Camera store... LIKE DISNEYLAND...
Will include sketch of my gaff for the Miser's Dream load. Saw
Andre Kole do it couple nights ago and the stuff with folks in
the audience (from someones nose, tipping a gals purse over and
having several coins "seem" to fall out) was G R E A T effect on
the spectators! The best book on the subject (IMHO) is the Pat
Page treatise. The best performance I have ever seen was, of course
AL FLOSSO.... No one will ever come close.
I saw Charlie Miller do it one Sunday at the Castle, with a
room full of kids... Charlie pulled a coin out from behind a kids
ear and the kid's eyes popped out and he said, "Gee that was great,
can I have it?" Charlie didn't know what he was getting into when
he gave the kid the Half Dollar! Each kid wanted one... Charlie,
gentle soul that he was, DID GIVE EACH KID A HALF... Until he was
out. That show must have cost him more than he was paid!!!!
I think you might find that half dollar sized coins will b
be much easier to handle. Ron MacMillan (in London) made some FAKE
SILVER DOLLARS... (hard to travel across borders with) that are
great... shinier... lighter... and with a serrated edge for grip.
But... the load of halves is much better to work with. Unless you
are on a huge stage with 3,000 seats.
Got to get in gear today... have about 25,000 slides to go thru
and get the "selections" to Sports Illustrated by tonights FEDEX
pickup! Oh I hate that part of the biz.... I wish I could throw all
old pix away and only do new stuff... But the files are worth gold
if you market them... am too interested in Magic to fiddle with
stuff that makes business sense!!!! Argh...
Sushi last night was A1... Got to find a local spot as good.
This place is almost an hour drive from my crib.
Just ramblin' so you can have stuff to read...
I was going to start a magazine years ago called the PHINX.
A combo name from Phoenix, Jinx and Sphinx. Still might do a fake
issue or two sometime... hah...
Loved the Caveney gang's WENII take off on Genii.
You might look for an old abbaccus maker... could possibly make
knock off Faro Casekeepers cheaper than we can... IF one is found,
we could send a sample over for duplicating. Probably only need
about 24 total. Onasaka can probably lead you to one. If not will
see him in March and discuss.
HAH... JUST THOT OF SOMETHING.... The Chinese Do a trick with
a small "woven scoop" where they have 2 people hold a cloth out
between them (about folding card table size area) -- it is like a
small table cloth. OK, then the magi puts UN POPPED POPCORN onto
the sheet. He then scoops it up with the scoop... and pours it back
onto the sheet, this is repeated several times... and as the
process goes on the POPCORN CHANGES TO POPPED... if this is available
in Japan.... GET ME ONE.... I WILL BE IN DEBT TO YOU FOR CENTURIES.
.... Joke on TV last nite... guy said, "I was a BATTERED child....
Never Deep Fried, just battered".... this struck me so funny I
couldn't handle it.... dunno why.... just hit me....
Found all 3 of Leno's "headline" books in bookstore last night.
Great stuff.
If you do rope stuff, the Japanese have a really BETTER kind of
magic rope, whiter, softer... you could stock up. Just stay away
from the heavy stuff for travel. Did you have the Security guys
go thru all your stuff when you landed?
.
When I did, they had my Nine bottle set out and produced all the
bottles, tried to get the linking rings apart... I almost told them
they BROKE ONE.... but these guys were too serious and I didn't
want to get their attention...
.
In tahe early days of security checks, I was leaving the US in NY
once and they were doing 'SEARCHES' (before the metal detector was
introduced) and this VERY FBI LOOKING guy motions me to go inside
a cloth room (frame and cloth hanging around it) He comes in and
says, "hold your arms up" then he starts to Pat Me Down, like in
a search...right? I say, 'CAN YOU GUESS MY WEIGHT?' The poor guy
collapses with laughter!!!!! Finally gets it together and says,
"Get outa here...." Whew, coulda been a BY THE BOOK GUY and I would
still be chained to a damp brick wall somewhere in Washington!
When you get home will let you know what size BLANK dice stock
I need. No big amount, just a few for practice and display with my
old dice making rig.
You have not mentioned if you are flying back via San Fran?
If you do, unless some kind of outa town job hits (none listed now)
I will pick you up at Terminal and you got free room and board here.
Then you can dig my museum of Casino Olde Tyme Stuff and browse
the roomfull of props and books. Don't forget to ask Tamura if the
ratings on the NHK FISM show were good... Is imporante to el me.
Well outa time and I think I hear the teapot melting down in the
other room. (I know Lichtman is going to give me a cast iron one
with a smoke alarm on it)...
Oh, does it mean your deodorant has faded if you walk down the
hall and the smoke alarm goes off? (I think mine is chirping for a
new battery)... hope so...
....is raining here finally in N. Calif... sure need it... ex just
spent $6,000 drilling deeper well on the house up North (still no
buyers)...argh...
Msg #25540 Dated 8:42:10 11-18-91 -> 25633
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
Oh, just thot... if not in Japan, maybe in Hong Kong they have the
popcorn trick with the woven scoop? I really am keen on this -- have a
major reason...
Msg #25541 Dated 9:58:11 11-18-91 25512 <--> 25542
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: CPU
If you're into Japanese drinking games, Geno, you are _never_ going to
recover from jet lag! I believe that the Japanese phrase for orange
juice is "oh-REHN-jee JOO-soo." Grapefruit juice would be
"GREH-poo-foo-ROO-tsoo JOO-soo." And "koh-NOH hehn nee,
mah-KOO-doh-nah-roo-doh gah ah-ree-mahs KAH" should get you directions
to the nearest McDonalds.
Msg #25542 Dated 10:08:32 11-18-91 25528 <--> 25543
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CPU
I've had some of that Taiwanese "white lightnin'" and you are right, it
ain't like the home grown stuff at all! Matter of fact, I think I have
some around here someplace - should be about 20 years old.
Msg #25543 Dated 10:09:52 11-18-91 25535 <--> 25558
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CPU
I've tried that, but they now fill that space between the first class
section and the bulkhead with all sorts of junk. On an L-1011 there is
a nice space in front of the first row of seats just behind that same
bulkhead. But they've been getting touchy lately - they won't let you
curl up on the floor in front of the doors anymore.
Prior to JAL and those guys having beds in first class, I knew a
Taiwanese businessman who used to buy five coach seats for himself!
He'd take the whole row, lift the armrests and make it into a bed.
Once he got there and they said, "We can't seat your party all
together, but we have two seats in row 4, two in 5, and one in 6." He
was _not_ pleased!
Msg #25544 Dated 10:14:51 11-18-91 25513 <--> 25545
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Si! Mas gusto!
Msg #25545 Dated 10:15:30 11-18-91 25530 <--> 25560
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I wasn't around when you did that? What do you think I was? Asquare?
I may not have been on any of your "El Cheepo But Goodo" tours to FISM,
but I was around.
Msg #25547 Dated 10:22:07 11-18-91 25529 <--> 25549
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thanks. I think I'll walk. Do I have to walk on the left side of the
sidewalk?
Msg #25548 Dated 10:24:05 11-18-91 25518 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: STUFF-N-THANGS
My dream/vision for retirement is a place here in L.A. and a place
somewhere in the Southeast. Generally like to dream of either Sumter
or Camden, S.C., but who knows, I haven't seen Nuevo DeCarlo yet!
Msg #25549 Dated 10:25:34 11-18-91 25525 <--> 25551
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
In my copy of Elliott's _Magic As A Hobby_ on page 20 is a micro-
levitation gaffus using a thimb tip and a needle. Shoot someone with
it?? Oh I get it, a gag! right?
Msg #25550 Dated 10:25:38 11-18-91 25526 <--> 25568
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
That's a good one.
Msg #25551 Dated 10:25:41 11-18-91 25538 <--> 25561
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
That's a good idea re: the chiffon silk, but it reeks of zombie then
and the effect of the ball or cork rising "naked" off the tips of the
fingers is great. Will think on the chiffon though. Maybe a use for
invisible wire!
Msg #25552 Dated 10:41:41 11-18-91 -> 25554
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SETUP
As far as working it as a magician, it is probably one of the best
shows to work. Never a problem getting a crowd, and keeping it. Makes
the job so much easier. I haven't been there in a few years, but can't
imagine it has changed much. If anything it's bigger.
Msg #25553 Dated 10:48:35 11-18-91 25469 <--> 25563
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Stan:
Eddie Fechter used to use a chrome tip. But you'd never see it. I once
saw the guy from Poland "Salvano", who had great ideas for hiding the
tip and recovering it as needed. He'd even leave it on the spectator
(without their knowledge, of course). I guess the point is, it would
seem better to keep it hidden. Especially nowadays. It seems to appear
in all those magic kits, and is well known by the lay public.
Msg #25554 Dated 12:03:05 11-18-91 25552 <--> 25562
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: SETUP
Yes, I know that it (Comdex) is a good show to work. I think that CES
is probably also pretty good - although you are right, the Comdex
people are much more likely to stand and watch than the CES folks are.
Msg #25557 Dated 14:40:55 11-18-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MAIL
Max, I sure wish others were as responsive as you are... the mail
arrived today with the Yamamoto material. Arigato Goziamashita!!!
.
Full credit will be done!
Msg #25558 Dated 14:48:59 11-18-91 25541 <--> 25559
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CPU
Learn the drinking song... (Phonetically....)(
Suki ga, data day tah... suki ga, day tah... yoi -- yoi
This will blow the minds...
Msg #25559 Dated 14:49:03 11-18-91 25542 <--> 25565
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CPU
At 21 it becomes Nitro!
Msg #25560 Dated 14:49:06 11-18-91 25545 <--> 25567
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I mean around ME...DUDE...
Msg #25561 Dated 14:49:09 11-18-91 25551 <--> 25578
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
I always complete my use of styrofoam cups by sticking my thumb
in the back and floating it to the trash!
Msg #25562 Dated 14:49:12 11-18-91 25552 <--> 26836
From: PETE BIRO
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: SETUP
Hey, this is for tab too... put the liquid stuff that makes it
solid in the cup, then stick in the thumb... nobody would think
there is a hole as nothin' is leakin' out... don't show it to be
solid stuff.
Msg #25563 Dated 14:49:18 11-18-91 25553 <--> 25579
From: PETE BIRO
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Glad you saw Salvano work too. He was brilliant. Did you buy his
booklet on the thumb tip? His rope work also fooled the wee wee
outa me... great guy too. Been trying to locate him.
Msg #25565 Dated 15:04:40 11-18-91 25558 <--> 25566
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CPU
I've often wondered how come so much of the World can do such great
business when they are drunk and we have so much trouble when we are
sober. Or is that the answer and not the question?
Msg #25566 Dated 15:05:33 11-18-91 25559 <--> 25680
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CPU
I think it was Nitro when I first got it! At 21, the stuff (Taiwanese
"white lightnin'") turns into an atomic bomb! Remind me next time you
are here at Techy Heaven and I'll serve you some.
Msg #25567 Dated 15:06:58 11-18-91 25560 <--> 25618
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Oh, around YOU. Well, in a sort of cosmic sense, aren't we all around
you? Anyway, I'm planning on the Biro '94 FISM tour!
Msg #25568 Dated 15:46:58 11-18-91 25522 <--> 25604
From: GENO MUNARI
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
Will give you a complete plan and sketch....I think you will be able
to make a masterpiece....
Msg #25569 Dated 15:47:06 11-18-91
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MISER IN JAPAN
Here I am across the world and I get a fax from Biro-san with good
old uncle Charlie Miller's Miser's Dream routine. Would he be
proud, of me, of me, of me,,,,,,,,,,,I think he would be especially
happy to know that I am putting some work on Japanese cards,,,,
he loved that sort of thing. I will report in later, your fax is
like getting a Christmas Gift.......
Msg #25570 Dated 15:47:20 11-18-91 -> 25571
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN
Met with Ton Onasaka and had the most interesting close-up session.
He is so unique and fun to be with.....he completely fooled me with a
card location......and he repeated it four times......finally I
may have a clue....but I'm not tipping.....otherwise I get the sword.
The Tenkai Party will be around the 1st of Dec., I was asked to atten
d and am looking forward to it. Tommy Wonder will be here and lots
of other magicians.....can't wait.
Hope to see Mrs. S. Tagaki today, she is so pleasant and cordial, and
a real lover of magic....I performed last night and really respect
the Japanese love of magic.....they love western performers, Pete,
they might even love Joe Stevens version of sidewalk shuffle, no
they really apprecite entertainment......this is like being on
stage 24 hours a day, you can do magic everywhere. Ton Onasaka says
that it is more warmly accepted from Americans and Europeans than
Japanese magicians....interesting......
I am off to Shikoku Island to stay at Hotel Okura Marugame...will
check in later today.....off to the land of the rising sun, I mean
land of the rising card......
Msg #25571 Dated 16:37:39 11-18-91 25570 <--> 25586
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Geno...
When will you be back in Vegas?
'W.
Msg #25572 Dated 18:10:42 11-18-91 -> 25587
From: DENNIS PIERCE
To: ALL
Re: SEARCH OF PROPS
For those of you on the west coast, do the stationary stores carry
an item that acts like a label but when removed leaves a portion of a
substance like rubber cement? If so who carries them. Also, in your
gadget stores, the one's that specialize in men's toys, do they have an
item that helps you find your keys by way of a beeper? Thanks for any
help...
Msg #25573 Dated 18:56:17 11-18-91
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN
For those of you interested in PHOENIX and THE NEW
PHOENIX, I think ALL the issues are still available in
bound volumes at extremely reasonable prices. I bought
the newest issues from Magic Inc. and the older (first
200 issues) from Daytona Beach Magic. The latter are
probably published by D. Robbins. Great reading in all
these. Special note to Pete Biro: you might want to
reprint a great linking ring bit of Al Baker (as
performed by Jay Marshall) using a key ring with TWO
openings. It's called "On and Off," page 214.
*
While I'm on, forgot to mention that the photo from
Vegas (VEGAS.GIF) came out great.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #25575 Dated 21:03:23 11-18-91 -> 25589
From: CY KELLER
To: ALL
Re: WAKEMAN
Saturday Nov 16 attended lecture by Randy Wakeman. Pleasant
appearance and presentation. Randy from Chicago was tied in with
Hebba Habba Al and worked all of the bars and also was associated
with Ed MArlo.
.
The group seemed to enjoy the lecture and heard many gasps at
some of the effects. I expected to see some of the strong material
for laymen that is characteristic of the bars in Chicago, but
most of the material was magic book/lecture material.
.
All of the material was with cards. Each effect was explained
with care with credit for each effect, method and move. Most of
the material was Marlo.
.
I did not have, nor buy the books sold in the lecture so cannot
tie the material to print as I would like, but here is the best I
can do to review the material.
.
.....Ascencion Transposition
.
Four cards change places with the four aces, one at a time. Lot
of Elmsley and Marlo. Similar, as I can recall, to Reset that a
lot of cardmen have worked on.
.
......Anything I Can Do..
.
Cute presentation showing that anything the magicain can do, the
spectator can do faster. Based on an effect by Terry ????. Maybe
Max can help.
.
......Bluff Aces
.
Marlo Ace Assembly from Ireland's Yearbook. A routine I use
often. Good of him to resurect it. The method eliminates palming
on the last card.
.
.....Spectator on Stage
.
Spectator cuts the aces. Complicated method to avoid problems
with other versions. OK with the complications - prefer Frank
Thompson's method.
.
.....Triversion
.
Version of James Lewis effect where a card in the deck turns
upside down or the card remains the same and the deck turns.
.
.....4 card stunner.
Can't remember this.
.
.....Randy Revelation
.
?? Can't remember.
.....Exploding Aces.
.
Find the aces in a flourish.
.
.....4 figuration.
.
Was the finding of the four selected cards? Mhhm!!
.
.....Over Clock
.
Very clever clock effect. Could be good under ceertain
circumstances.
.
I am not as good as I should be reviewing this lecture. Those new
to the literature of card magic got a lot out of it. Personaly I
was reminded of a lot of things. I'll have to look up my Marlo -
which aint a bad thing.
Msg #25576 Dated 21:13:51 11-18-91
From: CY KELLER
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: RETIRE AT 55
Used Symphony program to find age. Probably would have needed
Calculas otherwise; which I don't know.
Msg #25577 Dated 21:13:58 11-18-91 -> 25599
From: CY KELLER
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: COIN FLIPPER
The flipper coin is composed of a shell and a folding coin cut 1/3 and
2/3. The 1/3 is is attached to the hollow of the shell. When the
folding coin is folded, from the top it loooks like two coins.
When the folding coin opens flat the whole think looks like one
coin. Thus you have the vanish of a coin for the coins through
the table. I'm sorry that is isn't some kind of scam. Be
interested in hearing about the scam though.
Msg #25578 Dated 21:14:09 11-18-91 -> 25596
From: CY KELLER
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
The Elliott book has had several names. It is a great book and
should be on anyone's list. Bruce's wife was named Bunny. Judy
is, I think, his daughter. This is the only book Bruce produced
which contained Magic which was originally _not_ from the
Phoenix. I could be wrong on that. It contains items from Roy Benson
- a finish for the Egg BAg and the Benson Bowl Routine, which has
a reference to Don Alan. There was a contest in the Phoenix to
name the ten greatest tricks in magic. As I recall I won a prize
for my list.
Msg #25579 Dated 21:14:23 11-18-91 25523 <--> 25619
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Irv Weiner had a similar method to Finn Jon's. He used red tape
to bind the thumbs and there was no problem with how close up.
Msg #25580 Dated 21:14:29 11-18-91
From: CY KELLER
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TELIX
Yes I have x-modem. It looks like I am getting the script. Thanks
though.
Msg #25581 Dated 21:14:35 11-18-91 -> 26038
From: CY KELLER
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT
Instead of the cigarette, which these days are hard to find, you
use a feather. Don't know whose this is but picked it up from
someone who saw it in a lecture.
Msg #25583 Dated 23:00:51 11-18-91
From: MIKE KING
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: HI THERE!!!
Nice speaking with you on the phone today. Sorry i have been out of
touch. But have had to dig in and get things rolling a little faster
in the carrers (both magic and movies) Hope things are well on your
end. Plan on doing lunch at the Castle on Friday. Hope to catch up wit
you there. MIKE.
Msg #25584 Dated 23:03:05 11-18-91
From: MIKE KING
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BRUNCH AT CASTLE
Gee Pete, sure was nice running in to you at Castle brunch a week back.
Enjoyed dining with you and getting to know you. Hope when you're
down this way again you will look me up. I'll gladly buy you a drink
at the 'ol Castle bar. Hope all is well in the bay area. MIKE.
Msg #25585 Dated 23:06:55 11-18-91 -> 25605
From: MIKE KING
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
Long time no hear from. How's the move coming along? Got a brief
update from Pete, a week or so back. Give me a shout and let me know
about things. When would you be ready to take on one of my projects?
Let's talk. Take care. MIKE.
Msg #25586 Dated 23:22:16 11-18-91 25570 <--> 25733
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Munari-san, it sounds like you are holding a one-man convention! Are
you doing video of some of this? We could upload a few pictures on
your return. Or, if you are taking still pics, maybe recruit David
VanVranken to scan some in!
Msg #25587 Dated 23:24:21 11-18-91 25572 <--> 25591
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DENNIS PIERCE (X)
Re: SEARCH OF PROPS
Don't know about the rubber cement labels - I know what you are talking
about, but don't remember seeing any around. I got a couple of the key
beepers mail order and I had two types - the most commonly available
one responds to a series of claps, the original that I had responded to
a whistle. I don't know what you plan to do with them, but I found
that the whistle type was MUCH easier to use. Mine have all died, so
if you do find a source for the whistle type, please do let me know!
Msg #25589 Dated 23:32:44 11-18-91 25575 <--> 25590
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Thanks for the lecture review, Cy. GREAT!
Msg #25591 Dated 23:34:30 11-18-91 25572 <--> 25600
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DENNIS PIERCE (X)
Re: SEARCH OF PROPS
They are made by Avery and they are almost impossible to get and
I've been searching high and low for them for a year so that I could
experiment with a David Harley coin production when I walked literally
around the corner to the local copy place and lo and behold saw a few
packaged of these puppies on sale and I snapped them up and they were
dusty so I got the feeling they'd been there a while and that is the
first and last time I've seen the Avery "Spot-O-Glue" thangs, stock
number 6001, and if you want to find them I suggest you call Avery and
I don't know their number but my package says they're located in Azusa,
CA, that's at zip code 91702 and if you can write a longer sentence
than this, my heart goes out to you.
Msg #25592 Dated 23:35:08 11-18-91 -> 25594
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: WORD TO WISE
A bit of a departure from magic, but here's a little suggestion for
those with AT type computers that have CMOS. Take a look around in the
SETUP (usually this comes up when you start your computer and there is
a line like "Press DEL for SETUP or DIAGNOSTICS") and either PRINT
OFF or WRITE DOWN the setup for your disk drives! Somewhere in that
"SETUP" you should find something like "Drive Type - Cylinders - Heads
- WP - LZ - Sectors" and some numbers for each of your disk ("hard")
drives. Make note of these and then CARVE THEM INTO A ROCK OUTSIDE
YOUR DOOR!!! Someday, the CMOS battery will die (right, Pete?) or
something else will happen and you _WILL_ need these numbers!!!
What reminded me to pass this little hint along? Oh, nothing really...
only I was just working on installing a second drive in my personal
computer when an improperly made cable (I'd like to kill the !@#$% who
made it) knocked out my CMOS. Result? No access to my primary drive!
So, while I was rooting around trying to remember how my drive was set
up, I thought I would pass the message along to everyone.
I think I'm going to go lie down for a while and try to regain my
mind...
Msg #25594 Dated 23:46:01 11-18-91 25592 <--> 25595
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WORD TO WISE
Wowzo... I din't think bad stuff like that happened to real wizards!
Argh for ever... dude... ;+)
Msg #25595 Dated 23:48:11 11-18-91 25594 <--> 25611
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WORD TO WISE
Fortunately, I can poke this stuff out and know how to put things back
together. But it wasn't the most fun evening I've had lately. I would
suggest (STRONGLY) that YOU TOO find and write down those numbers since
I didn't think to do it when I was fixing the other parts of your CMOS.
Msg #25596 Dated 0:21:29 11-19-91 25515 <--> 25603
From: T A WATERS
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
No -- my point was that "trick" did not have the connotation in 1952
that it does now -- so it wasn't a double entendre. Slang tends to be
fairly regional in many cases, and also tends to change more rapidly
than the basic language.
Msg #25598 Dated 1:08:48 11-19-91 -> 25609
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
Thanks for the tip. Is the play any good ?
Msg #25599 Dated 1:08:50 11-19-91 25577 <--> 25613
From: JERRY BURTON
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: COIN FLIPPER
David Roth showed the identical idea at the NY Magic Symposium here
in LA in '85 or '86. He showed it using a folding coin. I always
wondered why no one was marketing a flipper coin that had the proper
ratio of coin sizes, as the folding coin isn't quite right.
.
Roth called it the 'flying eagle' and shows 'three' coins in the left
hand, and when he tosses them into the air only two hit the table. He
reaches up into the air and catches the third from the air with his
right hand. I'm sure you see the drift of how it goes until all coins
fly to the right hand.
Msg #25600 Dated 1:08:58 11-19-91 25587 <-
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DENNIS PIERCE (X)
Re: SEARCH OF PROPS
Are you referring to the Avery glue dots, that are used for hanging
pictures or glueing things down ? They are wonderful for magic work.
Msg #25601 Dated 1:09:00 11-19-91 -> 25602
From: JERRY BURTON
To: ALL
Re: PK LECTURE
Ee;
I went to the Whole Life Expo yesterday, what a blast ! Attended a
lecture on how to mend metal using your mind. The guy had a bunch of
silverware that he provided. About 25-30 people there to learn.
.
Step one, use a dowsing rod to select which forks or spoons will
bend for you.
.
Step two, center and visualize a 'white light' in your mind. Then
visualize it traveling down your arms and into your hands, then into
the item to be bent. Focus on a point and then scream 'BEND' to
separate the mind conection.
.
Step three, apply slight pressure and at the point the mind energy
softens the metal, the spoon or fork becomes 'fluid' for any where
from 5-30 seconds. You can twist them like a pretzel.
.
Phase II - Buckling the bowl of a spoon. Same as before, except you
fold the bowl of a spoon back on itself.
.
Phase III - Bending steel bars.
.
Result - I was able to get four folks to bend quite easily. Never
could get a spoon to buckle. The spoon is much to tough to bend by
sheer strength. Several people got their spoons to buckle (including
several women who could never have bent a spoon bowl by strength
alone). It was an incredible experience, 25-30 people screaming at
silverware was unique to say the least.
.
Last experiment was for spontaneous bending - everyone grabbed two
forks and meditated on them, to just 'melt'. No one was sucessful.
Msg #25602 Dated 1:19:19 11-19-91 25601 <--> 25606
From: JERRY BURTON
To: ALL
Re: PK LECTURE
On previous msg line 3 'mend' should be 'bend'.
Msg #25603 Dated 7:04:06 11-19-91 25561 <--> 25630
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Hey, styrofoam cups are environmentally dangerous.
Msg #25604 Dated 7:04:08 11-19-91 25568 <--> 25628
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Great Geno.
Msg #25605 Dated 7:04:11 11-19-91 25585 <--> 25617
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
Hi Mike, the move is pretty much done with the exception of one more
load of stuff from the old house. I hear you've moved also so I proba
bly don't have the address or phone number on you so lay it on me!!
Msg #25606 Dated 7:04:15 11-19-91 25601 <--> 25610
From: TABBY CRABB
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Sounds like Thanksgiving dinner with the Adams family!
Msg #25609 Dated 8:27:44 11-19-91 25598 <--> 25612
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
The play is engrossing, well produced, and well acted. The themes, the
content, and the premises are either complex or simple, depending on
how much you want to read into it. I think you would find it
interesting.
Msg #25610 Dated 8:34:00 11-19-91 25601 <--> 25614
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Jerry -
Is there a particular reason that spoon bending seems so important?
Is it just because Geller did spoons? Or is it because spoons (and
other cutlery) offer some unique psychic shape? Or is it some deeply
rooted psychological association with food?
Msg #25611 Dated 8:42:43 11-19-91 25595 <--> 25657
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WORD TO WISE
What an inconsiderate Dude you be... din't rite it down... tsk...
Guess I'll have a try... duh...
Msg #25612 Dated 8:42:47 11-19-91 25598 <--> 25690
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
Burtonium... lemme know when Biro.Zip is in and where? Muchas
Tankyas... (I think)! :+)
Msg #25613 Dated 8:42:51 11-19-91 25599 <--> 25692
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: COIN FLIPPER
Gadzooooooooooooks.... I think I seen that by someone in the 50s,
also?
Msg #25614 Dated 8:42:54 11-19-91 25601 <--> 25615
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I have medicated my forks for years and they are all bending and
hopping about in the dishwasher like Mehican Humping Beens.
Msg #25615 Dated 8:42:58 11-19-91 25602 <--> 25616
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Oh foo... I was Mending my fork!
Msg #25616 Dated 8:43:01 11-19-91 25610 <--> 25623
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I find that if you put too much soup on your spoon it can bend
downwards too fast and get your bib all dirty... at least it gets
mine dirty.
Msg #25617 Dated 8:56:01 11-19-91 25605 <--> 25624
From: MIKE KING
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
Still keep the things coming to 8424A Santa Monica Blvd. Suite 192,
West Hollywood, CA 90069. It's a business address. It didn't change.
I have new and exciting news about a possible place to showplace my
act. The place is offering a year contract with an open end run. The
money is real good and best part it's here in Southern California. I
feel it is the perfect plact to get all the bumps out. Details later.
Nice to hear from you. MIKE
What ever happened to the Morreti video???? Would love to take a look.
s
s
Msg #25618 Dated 10:08:58 11-19-91 25510 <--> 25634
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Terminal velocity for a human depends on the bodies position while
falling. When I used to skydive we would generally fall in a somewhat
spread eagle position for stability. Slight movements of hands and
feet would control our turns on a horizontal axis. In this position
125 mph is terminal velocity. However, when you are in a hurry to get
to the ground you can assume a "delta" position. Head down with arms
tucked in to sides. This greatly decreases the wind resistance and
speeds upwards of 170 mph can be reached.
Msg #25619 Dated 10:16:53 11-19-91 -> 25620
From: STAN LAKE
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Yes I did see that P&T special and I thought it was edited well enough
to fool the home viewers. I don't remember seeing them blatantly used
and overall it seemed to be a pretty good effect!
Msg #25620 Dated 10:20:46 11-19-91 25506 <--> 25621
From: STAN LAKE
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Thanks Geno, I think he has one or more books out about thumb tips.
I'll put that on my list of books to look up when I'm next at the
Castle library. I'll probably end up purchasing it anyway as I don't
have any books specifically dealing with the thumb tip.
Msg #25621 Dated 10:25:10 11-19-91 25553 <--> 25639
From: STAN LAKE
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
You're the second one to mention Salvano as having done great work with
the thumb tip. Was that a book written specifically on it or was it
part of a larger work?
Msg #25623 Dated 10:55:31 11-19-91 25610 <--> 25626
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Spoons are basic and cheap!
Msg #25624 Dated 10:55:34 11-19-91 25617 <--> 26045
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
I had the Morietti video with me in Vegas, I thought you were going
to make it over for the night and hang with us for a while. The Trop
even put a vcr in the room for me but I didn't stay in the room that
much. I will have to bring it with me next time I come out to So Cal
and show you. Stay in touch. Drove by Masterphonics the other day and
thought of your time there.
Msg #25626 Dated 11:54:09 11-19-91 25601 <--> 25643
From: EVAN KATZ
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Re the women who bent the spoons through something other than their
normal physical strength -- was it the mind power; the screaming; or
did the spoons just decide it would be easier for them in the long run
if they gave in?
Msg #25628 Dated 12:57:09 11-19-91 25526 <-
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Well, that's a great idea....everyone on the block can do the effect.
Here I am in Marugame, on this remote Northern Island of Japan.
This has been really special. Just finished a show for some
special dignitaries. By the way Gen. Colin Powell was in Tokyo
last night at the show. He is very nice and certainly a lover of the
variety arts. (sorry about the spelling, but I can't go back
and correct). He had at least 50 security at the affair, and we
were adjacent to the US Embassy. He was very friendly and discussed
some of our comedians.....I am not at liberty to say who??????
Pete...thanks again for the FAX, I will enjoy it.
I am tired and have been working hard today, so I will get on this
machine in the morning.......
Pete the telephone here in Maruhgame is: Okura Hotel, 0877-23-2222.
The fax is 0877-23-0100.
I traveled with a dove all the way from Tokyo, and I am not even a do
ve worker.......got into my room and opened a window. The room
over looks a beautiful bay and I thought it would be nice to let
the bird get some fresh air.....before I could count one, the dove
was perched on the window ledge....He didn't budge, and could have
flown out the window........wow, was that close...........
Talk to you all later.....
Msg #25629 Dated 12:57:41 11-19-91 25534 <--> 25645
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: YO BRO
These are great and I should have bought 20 more sets......the best.
Msg #25630 Dated 12:57:47 11-19-91 25536 <--> 25631
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Would you rather have me sing?
Msg #25631 Dated 12:57:53 11-19-91 25537 <--> 25646
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I just bought 50 of them...you were too late! No not really,
Birosan.......
Msg #25632 Dated 12:58:00 11-19-91 25539 <--> 25649
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FAX
Wenni was a riot, and I do enjoy your messages. I think I will
ask(pay) you to right me some material....your funny!
Msg #25633 Dated 12:58:06 11-19-91 25540 <--> 25650
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HONG KONG
I will look, but give me a lead where to look.
Msg #25634 Dated 12:58:12 11-19-91 25544 <--> 25638
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Que paso' amigo, and all that exra jazz.
Msg #25635 Dated 12:58:17 11-19-91 -> 25636
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN
Well here I am in Marugame and find that I can't dial out directly
from the in room phone, so If you get this message, I have used
a private citizen's telephone....
The country side here is really pretty, as we are going to this priva
tely owned Island near here....I am up early in the morning getting
ready for today's two shows....The first stage show is at 6:30 pm,
and then a private show at 7:45,,,,,
It is definately recommended to anyone travelling with a magic
show to keep a checklist of what you need, and bring plenty of
back up supplies.....can't take any chances......
The ocean breeze, although a little chilly, is whistling through
the window, I'll be more carefull with my dove......
Hope you get this and will try to answer any messages later, just
could not tie up this phone too long........
Msg #25636 Dated 13:27:52 11-19-91 25635 <--> 25651
From: MARVIN STERN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Sent you a fax to the first Okura Hotel, but I guess you had already
left.
so, am just now sending it to Marugame.
Felt you might be in interested in seeing the infor.
Msg #25637 Dated 16:11:21 11-19-91 -> 25652
From: ROBERT CANSLER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
I think that it can be clickish if one lets it. I teach the average
of 8 kids and 3 adults every 8 weeks and have been doing this for 6 or
seven years and now I see kids working their way through UMASS doing
magic; Yes, I have lost house parties because of this, but believe it
or not I get more students from this; because MAGIC can be fun and
profitable if one does not take themselves to seriously. I try to make
magic fun not a show of I can do this and you can't; I think this is
your real point too. If your audience is not having fun and you are
your not doing it right, you both should be getting enjoyment out
of the performance.
Msg #25638 Dated 17:49:10 11-19-91 25618 <--> 25660
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: JAPAN
I knew you were a total Lunatic!!!!!!!!! I once dated a gal tht
sky dived (dove?) and D R E A D E D the day she might ask me to
go UP... ??? Never happened. Whew!
Msg #25639 Dated 17:49:15 11-19-91 25619 <--> 25640
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
It was GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD...
Msg #25640 Dated 17:49:17 11-19-91 25620 <--> 25641
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
I think Darwin has 3 TT books. Pat Page has a very good one. And
Salvano has a lecture note set with the best handlings I have
almost seen!! Then there are some OLDER books "Tips on Thumbs" by
Milbourne Christopher (more than one I think) and a book by
Stuart Robson, forget the title.
Msg #25641 Dated 17:49:24 11-19-91 25621 <--> 25661
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Salvano lectured at the Desert Magic Seminar. Killed with his very
original thinking on Rope and Thumb tip work.
Msg #25643 Dated 17:49:34 11-19-91 25623 <--> 25644
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Books cost more than spoons. I have just increased my shelf length
by about five yards! And it costs more than $100 a foot. (I think)
Msg #25644 Dated 17:49:38 11-19-91 25626 <--> 25655
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I think the spoons hadda give up... as they were next gonna have
to stir some Earl Gray Tea. ARgh... spit foo arghh
Msg #25645 Dated 17:49:42 11-19-91 25629 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: YO BRO
These WHAT? ARE GREAT?? WHA WHAH.... HUH... O GENKI DESU KA?
Msg #25646 Dated 17:49:44 11-19-91 25630 <--> 25647
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
George Joseph has the Singing among gaming/magi covered, dude!!
Try to find out the opening steps of the shows at the NOH THEATER.
(Max will tell me I spelled it wrong, but that's ok, am a phonetic
kinda guy....
Msg #25647 Dated 17:49:50 11-19-91 25631 <--> 25656
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
50 what??? dude????
Msg #25649 Dated 17:50:03 11-19-91 25632 <--> 25823
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FAX
My price just went up... Did Sports Illustrated job yesterday and
only moments ago a mag called and wants me to do a cover story
on Jay Leno.... whowowowowowowowoeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Msg #25650 Dated 17:50:08 11-19-91 25633 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
Look under the bed first. Then in the cabinet under the sink.
Hell, I don't even know what you are looking for... but those are
always the first places to check.
Msg #25651 Dated 17:50:12 11-19-91 25635 <--> 25663
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Try MIMI, nothing to bring, nothing to break, nothing to lose.
Msg #25652 Dated 17:50:15 11-19-91 25637 <--> 25664
From: PETE BIRO
To: ROBERT CANSLER (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Sounds good Robert... more students is good. I assume UMASS is the
University? Do you know the area code and the zip code for where
Harvard is? I need to write or call a prof friend there. No rush.
Msg #25654 Dated 17:50:54 11-19-91 -> 25824
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: ERROR
In a prior message "MIMI" should read "MIME" duh.... uh.... oooooo
ahhhhh
Msg #25655 Dated 19:07:23 11-19-91 25601 <--> 25658
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Wish I coulda been there. The Whole Life Expo is quite a compendium of
the incredible.
A few years ago, Jon Cypher, (currently of Major Dad), and I performed
a series of comedy sketches for their big show. I was dressed in a
very round "Earth" costume and Jon played the doctor I was visiting for
the myriad of troubles from which the Earth is suffering.
'W.
Msg #25656 Dated 19:32:19 11-19-91 25646 <--> 25668
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Amazingly enough, it _is_ spelled "Noh."
Msg #25657 Dated 19:37:23 11-19-91 25611 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WORD TO WISE
Yeah, maybe so. It was working, so I didn't think about it. Anyway,
WRITE THEM DOWN!
Msg #25658 Dated 19:38:52 11-19-91 25616 <--> 25659
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Your bib wouldn't get dirty if you didn't have a dirty mind! But I'm
serious - why always spoon bending? Why not pencil bending?
Msg #25659 Dated 19:39:46 11-19-91 25623 <--> 25669
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Pencils is cheaper!
Msg #25660 Dated 19:42:19 11-19-91 25618 <--> 25670
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: JAPAN
THanks for the info, Stan. If I ever fall out of an airplane I'll try
to remember to keep my hands spread out. Seriously, skydiving always
did interest me, but I decided to take up a really risky pasttime -
that's why I sysop MAGIC!
Msg #25661 Dated 19:45:45 11-19-91 25620 <--> 25684
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Milbourne Christopher did a little booklet on "50 Tricks With A Thumb
Tip" (I think it was published by D. Robbins & Co., Inc., Brooklyn,
NY). It is pretty generally available and should retail for about $3
to $5. The illustrations were done by Yoshi and there is an intro by
Hen Fetsch.
Msg #25663 Dated 19:53:48 11-19-91 25635 <--> 25672
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
You are really getting around, Geno! Sounds like you are having a
ball! Sure glad you brought that laptop computer with you!
Msg #25664 Dated 19:55:21 11-19-91 25637 <--> 26502
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ROBERT CANSLER (X)
Re: BAD VIBES
Thanks, Robert. You were replying to an older message. Glad to see
you are catching up!
Msg #25668 Dated 21:21:03 11-19-91 25656 <--> 25681
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Topper Martyn loved the Noh Theater, but told me it took them about
two hours just to walk to center stage!!! Before anything happened.
.
Did a computer clean up on the one print to eliminate the fold
mark in the center of the page with the fella doing the rings!!
.
Came out clean and you will like. When I get both sorted and some
other printed matter on the subject together will send to you.
.
Appreciate your assistance enourmously!
Msg #25669 Dated 21:21:14 11-19-91 25658 <--> 25676
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Don't you do the " rubbery looking pencil " ????
.
You know... Magicians (Psychics are no better) ALWAYS COPY WHAT
OTHERS ARE DOING...
.
I just spotted something I devised 30 years ago in a major new
book!!!! Argh... got to get mine into print.
.
Have been finding some great history on the Rings.... wheeeeee
Msg #25670 Dated 21:21:24 11-19-91 25660 <--> 25677
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
If you wear a jacket you can do what I have done. Open the front
and hold the bottom corners... the air will go into the jacket and
you can fly about for three or four hours (if you start high enough)
and with practice can land within a few feet of your target area.
.
The angle of your legs (the bend) is critical. I will tell you why
in a private message.
Msg #25672 Dated 21:21:37 11-19-91 25663 <--> 25819
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
If he goes to the Akihibara District he will find a Knee Top computer
with a Cellular Modem.
Msg #25673 Dated 21:21:41 11-19-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAGIC-NL
Re: COINS
Ee;25657
This is second message. I think first one may be eaten by the byte
bucket?
Arnaud and or Tommy Wonder. I understand Richard Ross has made some
coins with his picture on them. I am looking for a few of these
and are willing to pay the cost. One is for my friend Byron Walker
who has been helping me with my book, the other is for my own
collection. Any help would be appreciated.
.
Arnaud: How are you coming gathering tapes for Joe Stevens?
Msg #25674 Dated 21:21:57 11-19-91 -> 25679
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
I have been researching 15th Century magic pix, and find a routine "To
make Frogs appear" (various bits) One to have a dozen or so appear in
a room. Other to pull frogs from spectators mouth. The rough sketch for
the famous H. Bosch painting showed a Frog coming out of the mouth of
a spectator! More later. ARgh... spit ... p toooey... yuk...
Msg #25676 Dated 21:56:27 11-19-91 25669 <--> 25686
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Yeah, but I haven't seen anyone doing a seminar at a psychic fair (or
anyplace else, for that matter) on "pencil bending."
I guess that anything you leave lying around for 30 years could get
picked up! You GOTTA get your stuff into print, Pete. Of course,
someitmes people do think of the same things in the same way without
ever seeing anyone do it. If you will recall, for example, I asked you
about a device to inflate a balloon before I saw you do it. My intent
and presentation were nowhere near yours - I was just looking for a
wway to inflate balloons. By the way, I finally found my gizmo and it
didn't work any better (actually, it worked a great deal worse) than
yours does. So it is back to the drawing board on what I'm trying to
do.
Maybe if you find enought stuff on the rings, you should consider a
ring trilogy?
Msg #25677 Dated 22:02:42 11-19-91 25670 <--> 25694
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Or, I could open my umbrella and pretend to be Mary Poppins? Besides,
if I fall out of an airplane, how am I gonna hold the bottom corners of
my jacket while I key my last messages into my laptop computer?
Msg #25679 Dated 22:05:34 11-19-91 25674 <--> 25702
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Wow! Now THAT sounds interesting!!! Of course, making frogs appear
was really old hat by the 15th century - Moses did it a good bit before
then, but, of course, it is rumored that he had a lot of help. I'd be
interested in the methods on the frog tricks. Did the 15th century
book include the patter?
Msg #25680 Dated 22:09:14 11-19-91 25511 <--> 25685
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CPU
David,
I understand the ear-plug trick works best for sleeping in
unfamiliar surroundings. It seems that the human mind can
program itself to ignore almost anything, so that an expected
noise won't disturb slumber, but a new noise will drive your
psyche crazy until it has learned to disregard it. But hey, try
it. It couldn't hoit.
Enjoy!
Kevin
p.s. My brother is like you except that he doesn't care whether
he is horizontal or vertical. When he was discharged from the
service in Germany, his friends wondered where he had gotten to.
He was in danger of missing his flight home. They looked all
around, and finally found him sitting on the toilet fast asleep.
Msg #25681 Dated 22:09:21 11-19-91 25519 <--> 25682
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
Tabby,
I will certainly look into getting the Elliott books, as well as
many others. Thanks for the info!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #25682 Dated 22:09:26 11-19-91 25531 <--> 25683
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
Apparently I had better start using more proper nouns, and fewer
pronouns. I meant that I had stumbled over the Elliott book that
way. Sorry for the confusion.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #25683 Dated 22:09:31 11-19-91 25532 <--> 25703
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
I will certainly check into getting the Elliott books. I've
really enjoyed "The Best in Magic." Things should be settling
down, financially, in the very near future.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #25684 Dated 22:09:36 11-19-91 25579 <--> 25820
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Cy,
This is nothing new, I can't tell you how many times my hands
have been tied by red tape.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #25685 Dated 0:20:42 11-20-91 25680 <--> 25706
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CPU
My mother used to tell a reverse story - that some people can't sleep
if the sounds aren't familiar. It seems that we had a visitor from New
York who lived in an apartment near the elevated. The first night they
had to take him down to the train station so that he could fall asleep!
Msg #25686 Dated 0:50:43 11-20-91 25610 <--> 25687
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
The thing about spoon bowl buckling is that its literally impossible
for most people to bend a spoon bowl using strength alone (Arnie
could probably do it with one hand, but normal people can't) so that
when you get one to buckle it MUST be due to some other force at work
.
I didn't have a chance to personally check each spoon that was buckle
d to make sure they were they same strength, but I tried to straighte
n out a couple that were buckled by a woman in the group and I could
not even budge it.
Msg #25687 Dated 0:50:49 11-20-91 25626 <--> 25688
From: JERRY BURTON
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Probably all three combined ! It was an interesting experience to
say the least. I have one fork that just seemed to melt, I kept it
and will bring it to the Copperfield bash. I went to the workshop
out of curiosity and have gained a knew interest in how the hell what
I saw and experienced actually happened.
Msg #25688 Dated 0:50:54 11-20-91 25655 <--> 25689
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
It was a hoot. I missed the show, but saw Mitch Williams in the
exhibit hall afterwards. He did his parlour act at 5 pm Sat. Lots of
wierd science and bizarre people.
Msg #25689 Dated 0:50:57 11-20-91 25606 <--> 25693
From: JERRY BURTON
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Now that you mention it, some of the people there did look vaguely
familiar ! They had name badges like - Lurch, Gomez, Morticia, Thing,
Hmmmmmm, how did I miss that ?
Msg #25690 Dated 0:51:00 11-20-91 25612 <--> 25691
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
Do you have PCPLUS ?? The scripts are for PCPLUS - please indicate
yea or nay -ASAP.
Msg #25691 Dated 0:51:02 11-20-91 25609 <--> 25698
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
Thanks David, I'll check it out. Does the 'ROBOT' have a person insid
e or is it remote controlled or could you tell ?
Msg #25692 Dated 0:51:05 11-20-91 25613 <--> 25734
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COIN FLIPPER
Synchrocity strikes again - I was reading through the new Stevens
catalog I got today and on page 60 it mentions a re-release of the
1986 NY Symposium tape featuring David Roth's Folding Coins Across.
Msg #25693 Dated 0:53:01 11-20-91 25659 <--> 25696
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
When Annemann wrote it up -- way back when -- it was swizzle stick
bending...
Msg #25694 Dated 0:57:12 11-20-91 25618 <--> 25700
From: T A WATERS
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: JAPAN
And -- if I recall correctly -- there's the dereve position in which
you can get considerable forward velocity.
Msg #25696 Dated 7:25:40 11-20-91 25686 <--> 25697
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Hmmm... Sounds like you are getting into this spoon buckling thing,
Jerry. I don't mind if you demo it for me at a resturant.
Msg #25697 Dated 7:29:02 11-20-91 25693 <--> 25699
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Swizzle stick bending would go nicely with elbow bending.
Msg #25698 Dated 7:30:11 11-20-91 25691 <--> 25709
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
The "robot" looks like a person, not like a robot. I supose one should
technically say that it looks like a person portraying an android. I
think that there are some scenes that you will like and that the plot
is interesting enough to make it worthwhile. But don't expect to see
a device.
Msg #25699 Dated 8:42:24 11-20-91 25676 <--> 25707
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Not enuf stuff for Trilogy... the book needs to be more than 100
pages to be thick enough to be noticed!
Msg #25700 Dated 8:42:28 11-20-91 25677 <--> 25719
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Have it pre-written as a Macro... saves time...
Msg #25702 Dated 8:42:33 11-20-91 25679 <--> 25721
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Ribbit, or Knee Deep (was the patter)...actually the Mountebank
Dude had a concealed bag of Frogs under his clothing and just let
'em fly (Copperfield was not first) at the appropriate time!
... aha... I hear the teakettle... back soon...
Msg #25703 Dated 8:42:38 11-20-91 25681 <--> 25704
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
You can download several Book.TXT files from the file area. These
are mini catalogs of books available at friendly prices for members
here on MAGIC!
Msg #25704 Dated 8:42:43 11-20-91 25682 <--> 25705
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Leave those books laying about and you WILL stumble over 'em!
Tabby nearly disappeared when he walked into the Stewart James book!
Msg #25705 Dated 8:42:47 11-20-91 25683 <--> 25714
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
If you don't find any of the other Elliott books (after checking
H&R) let me know. Byron Walker has 2 or 3 titles on hand. (I just
completed my set).
Msg #25706 Dated 8:42:51 11-20-91 25685 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CPU
Can someone tell me the difference between being "fast asleep"
and "sound asleep" ? And don't tell me it has to do with the rate
of Snores per second... argh...
Msg #25707 Dated 8:42:56 11-20-91 25686 <--> 25708
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Was her name "Powerful Katrinka"?
Msg #25708 Dated 8:42:59 11-20-91 25687 <--> 25711
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
What temperature was the room?
Msg #25709 Dated 8:43:02 11-20-91 25690 <--> 25781
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
You win the Turkey... yep I is using PCPLUS (in my 2meg laptop
however, only got old Procomm -- but that is not used as often).
Msg #25711 Dated 10:19:46 11-20-91 25643 <--> 25713
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
If your books cost a hundred dollars a foot you are buying cheap book
s. Last few books I bought costs a hundred dollars an inch. I went to
Knoxville magic Club last night to do a song and dance re: the Music
City Conclave and gots to see RICARDO lecture. You ever heard of this
dude. He is an older gent from Wisconsin. He was doing a dealer demo
and most all his stuff was direct rip off (unless he is so old he
invented the stuff before everybody else was born). He would start hi
s pitch with "so and so sells this for 25 dollars, but not Ricardo.
I sell it for 8 dollars." I wanted to call him down on it but I was
there to make friends and kept my mouth shut. Most people there with
any age on em at all pretty much knew what the score was anyhow.
Got good response on MCCM though.
Msg #25713 Dated 10:20:02 11-20-91 25659 <--> 25717
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Cheaper than what?
Msg #25714 Dated 10:20:05 11-20-91 25681 <--> 25735
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yoi velcome!
Msg #25715 Dated 11:04:56 11-20-91
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: REPLY TO M A G I C
Good-day Max,
I was wondering if you have mulled over my last E-mail
regarding your artical in MAGIC?
Msg #25717 Dated 12:36:21 11-20-91 25699 <--> 25718
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Geez, both Tolkein and Wagner were able to get trilogies out of rings.
Msg #25718 Dated 12:37:31 11-20-91 25713 <--> 25726
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Pencils is cheaper than spoons, unless you A) buy really cheap spoons
(which does make 'em easier to bend!), or, B) you steal 'em from
resturants.
Msg #25719 Dated 12:38:30 11-20-91 25700 <--> 25729
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Good idea, Pete! I will now go off and prepare my "falling out of
airplane" contingency message as a macro.
Msg #25721 Dated 12:41:02 11-20-91 25702 <--> 25731
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
OK, thanks for the info. I wonder how well the flying frogs would go
over in the Castle Close-up room.
Msg #25723 Dated 16:41:51 11-20-91 -> 25724
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: KOAN
Someone asked me the following riddle today:
"What did the Bhuddist Monk say to the hot dog vendor?"
(The answer is in the next message...)
Msg #25724 Dated 16:43:52 11-20-91 25723 <--> 25725
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: KOAN
"Make me one with everything."
Msg #25725 Dated 16:55:18 11-20-91 25724 <--> 25732
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: KOAN
I knew I shouldn't a logged back on for the punchline... argh..
Msg #25726 Dated 16:55:49 11-20-91 25711 <--> 25744
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Main thing is resonse and tickee sales... go fer it...time out,
the famed teakette is calling... back in a stroke...
Argh... had giant excavation by Dentist today... and the novacaine
is wearing off... MY TONGUE HURTS... THE WORST... YARGH.... GOOO
UNGH...
Msg #25729 Dated 16:56:05 11-20-91 25719 <--> 25753
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Or... you could have it on a disk and if you don't land on a
magnetic field your obit will be ready to roll! ASCII of course?
Msg #25731 Dated 16:56:15 11-20-91 25721 <--> 25755
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
In Japan they would be FRYING Frogs.
.
I wonce worked with an illiterate (true story) signpainter that
mis-spelled "FRYING CHICKENS" on store banners as "FLYING
CHICKENS"... store Mgr. said sales were up! No kidding, true story.
.
He also was part of crew that painted: 'PLYWOOD DOOORS' in 10 foot
tall letters on a building!!!!
Msg #25732 Dated 17:21:52 11-20-91 25724 <--> 25751
From: MAX MAVEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: KOAN
The joke reads better when the religion is spelled properly.
Msg #25733 Dated 17:24:08 11-20-91 25571 <--> 25736
From: GENO MUNARI
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: JAPAN
Hope to return in December sometime....I hate to come home, it
is fun here.....
Msg #25734 Dated 17:24:16 11-20-91 25577 <--> 25788
From: GENO MUNARI
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: COIN FLIPPER
The flipper scam was a method of finding a person who liked to
bet on coin tosses. The one fellow that I knew went all over the
world looking for a sucker. If he heard there was a poker game
he would travel to the town and just hang around to get someone
in a wagering situation. He would offer huge odds of say 3, 4, 5 and
more to one (2/1 3/1 4/1 5/1 etc.)
You coul;dn't beat him, but he wound up in English jail...I still
do not know the modus operandi.....
Msg #25735 Dated 17:24:33 11-20-91 25578 <--> 25789
From: GENO MUNARI
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
That is so interesting.....I will talk with you more when I return fr
om Japan.....I am now riding in a limo with Sugi Hirohumi, on the
way to the resort golf course, I will be doing two shows.
This morining I was testing my dove bags, and broke the leader. I
could not find anymore leader or wire,,,,and though that I would
have to scrap the effect....I then went on my daily jog, which todayy
is around the ocean.....guess what came blowing in the wind? Just
the right weight fishing line....it will work great.......
Talk to you later...
Msg #25736 Dated 17:24:51 11-20-91 25586 <--> 25756
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I am taking some today, and will try it.
Msg #25737 Dated 17:24:58 11-20-91
From: GENO MUNARI
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FAX-JAPAN
I got the fax, boy was I surprised....It is amazing the modern
world we live in.......Thanks so much.....
Msg #25739 Dated 17:25:09 11-20-91 -> 25758
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN
I had a little problem calling out from where I was located, due
to the telephone exchange. I probabbly could have done better if
I broyght my ProComm manual with me. I have fineshed last night's
show and I was happy with every thing, except a reel braking just
before the curtain, so I had to change the opening slightly.
Instead of doing serpent silk directly to a dove steal, I modified
the serpent silk routine. I used another red silk as a flower on my
lapel, and tied this into a knot and magically blew it away.
Thank God I had another reel, however it was hooked to a blue silk.
My dove bag was red, so I did what I had to do.
Bring plenty of back up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The opening show was a final count of 855 people or so, and was filme
was filmed for Japanese television. The scripted show was really
a well produced show. I was introduced by several popular Japanese
TV personalities. Hiromo Go, Yitani, Kawajimi, and several very
popular film stars were in attendence....I was very honored.
They opened with some very contemporary american music, however
had the traditioonal breaking of the SAKI drums.....three or four
about 50 gallons each....very impressive.
Leaving for Tokyo, for the Okura Hotel and another show for
dignitaries of the Palace........
By the way, who has Thompson's routine "The Spectator Cuts the Aces?"
Love to learn it....
Geno
Msg #25740 Dated 18:34:08 11-20-91 -> 25759
From: DENNIS PIERCE
To: ALL
Re: SEEK & YOU SHALL FIND
Thanks for the info on Avery's spot o glue stickers. I made some
calls today and called their product line telephone #. Avery makes the
labels which come 212 labels per pack. These labels when applied to a
coin or any other substance will leave a drop of rubber cement (ala D.
Harkey's lecture / notes). If you can't find these in your local store
call Roberts, a stationary (catalogue) supply house at 1-800-742-8247.
Their price is $9.13 per box, each box contains 6 packages. Master Card
accepted, shipping extra. Again thanks for the help. I'm still looking
for the beeping key locator device that is triggered by a sender
activated by pressing a button. Any help?.......
Msg #25741 Dated 19:09:33 11-20-91 -> 25791
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: CARD CONTROL
I was reading Gary Ouellet's ad about ProControl which is his type of
card control. I was thinking I could use a really good card control
and wondered if any card workers here could recommend learning one over
another. A thoughts??
Msg #25742 Dated 20:06:32 11-20-91 25590 <--> 25769
From: CY KELLER
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Thompson's "Spectator Cuts the Aces" is in Cy Keller Lecture
notes.
Msg #25743 Dated 20:09:51 11-20-91 -> 25792
From: CY KELLER
To: ALL
Re: RICKY JAY
Last week I saw "Homicide". Great movie. One of the best of the
year. As is usual with David Mamet movies, one of the characters
is played by our own Ricky Jay.
.
Am watching the new series "Civil Wars" on TV. Lo and behold
there is our friend Ricky Jay playing a divorcee. He must be the
best actor-card man in the business. Probably better than Harry
Anderson or Jeff Altman. Did I miss anyone? Jeff will probably
object to the assessment. Oh well!!
Msg #25744 Dated 20:12:06 11-20-91 25726 <--> 25752
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Yeah, but going to dentist is good thing to do. Remember Stew and
the lesson to be learned thar?
Msg #25748 Dated 21:18:04 11-20-91 -> 25796
From: JACK TAVES
To: JACK TAVES (X)
Re: MICKEY MOUSE MAGICIAN
I'm looking for the 1955 version of Mickey Mouse magician that was made
for kids , i have the 1976 version. i've heard it's very hard to find
and Mand that some collectors may have one for sale. also looking for
any Mickey items dealing with fantasia, that were put on the market
when the movie first came out 50 years ago.
please drop me a note if you have any of these items for sale thanks
Msg #25751 Dated 22:08:01 11-20-91 25732 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: KOAN
Sorry - I seem to type faster with my right hand.
Msg #25752 Dated 22:09:01 11-20-91 25744 <--> 25763
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Do what I did years ago - have all your teeth replaced with styrofoam.
Msg #25753 Dated 22:10:03 11-20-91 25729 <--> 25798
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yeah, it would be my luck to land on my ASCII.
Msg #25755 Dated 22:12:15 11-20-91 25731 <--> 25800
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
One of my best friends is functionally illiterate (one advantage - he
doesn't notice my spelling errors) but he had better sense than to go
into signpainting! He became a brain surgeon. Nah, I can't let you
believe that - he does refrigeration and air conditioning repair.
Msg #25756 Dated 22:15:05 11-20-91 25736 <--> 25782
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Great! Looking forward to seeing your pictures. Please take at least
one of you standing in front of a Buddhist Temple.
Msg #25758 Dated 22:19:38 11-20-91 25739 <--> 25765
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Sounds like you are having quite a time, Geno! Sorry to hear about the
reel, glad to hear that the show went well anyway. Keep it goin'!
Msg #25759 Dated 22:22:25 11-20-91 25740 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DENNIS PIERCE (X)
Re: SEEK & YOU SHALL FIND
THANKS for the "spot o glue" info. I'm going to have to look into
that! I don't have a line on the device you are describing, but there
is an outfit I used to deal with that might have something similar.
The address I have is about 5 years old, but it is DesignTech
International, Inc., 941-B 25th Street, N.W., Washington, DC 20037.
The phone number I have is (202) 333-0078.
Msg #25763 Dated 23:00:40 11-20-91 25687 <--> 25776
From: EVAN KATZ
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Now you're confusing me, Jerry. Are you saying that truly supernatural
things happened? Very interesting...
Msg #25765 Dated 23:03:22 11-20-91 25739 <--> 25818
From: EVAN KATZ
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Cool, Geno! Have a great rest-of-your-trip!
Msg #25769 Dated 23:06:29 11-20-91 25742 <--> 25828
From: EVAN KATZ
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Were, um, would one possible purchase acopy of the Cy Keller
Lecture notes, if said are still in print?
Msg #25776 Dated 23:38:45 11-20-91 25717 <--> 25777
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
And Scotty York had a Ring Trilogy too...
Msg #25777 Dated 0:07:35 11-21-91 25696 <--> 25778
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I'm not sure I'm quite ready to be screaming at the cutlery in a
public place - I may be bizarre, but I'm not crazy (yet) - could
cause a call to 911 for the guys in the white coats !
Msg #25778 Dated 0:07:38 11-21-91 25707 <--> 25779
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
No she didn't resemble a Russian shot putter, she was a bit on the
portly side, but I can not believe she did it by strength alone. I
have been experimenting with the bio-metal and have a bar of the
stuff that can be bent quite easily when it is cool, but when it
heats up to room temperature you can't begin to bend it. I have to
keep in wrapped in an ice pack prior to doing the PK effect.
.
These spoons he had were in oatmeal boxes and he just dumped them out
on the floor for anyone to pick anyone they wanted.
Msg #25779 Dated 0:07:46 11-21-91 25708 <--> 25780
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
It was at the Hilton Hotel, so I guess the room was about 70-74
degrees. See my prior response regarding the bio-wire which is
temperature sensitive.
Msg #25780 Dated 0:07:49 11-21-91 25763 <--> 25783
From: JERRY BURTON
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
There is nothing supernatural (i.e. spirits) about it. The guy that
gave the workshop is a systems analyst at McDonell-Douglas in Hunting
ton Beach and has written several papers on PK phenomena. It's
totally a matter of belief and directing your will, according to him.
.
I intend to send for his papers and will give a report on what they
say. All I know is that one fork that I had just seemed to melt, I
didn't have to apply very much pressure and the damn thing just bent
right in two, the bend is so sharp it looks like it had been put into
a vice. I kept my 3rd & 4th attempt and will show them to you - no
foolin'
Msg #25781 Dated 0:07:57 11-21-91 25709 <--> 25970
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
OK scripts will be up tonight as BIRO.ZIP
Msg #25782 Dated 0:07:59 11-21-91 25756 <--> 25784
From: JERRY BURTON
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Maybe a picture in front of a Buddhist temple with a hot dog stand.
Msg #25783 Dated 0:20:06 11-21-91 25776 <--> 25785
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Does Himber count among ring trilogies?
Msg #25784 Dated 0:23:23 11-21-91 25782 <--> 25786
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: JAPAN
Or, at the very least, a hot dog stand in front of a ZoROASTrian
Temple. But in that case, I'd be very trepidatious about eating the
hot dog.
Msg #25785 Dated 0:32:42 11-21-91 25783 <--> 25793
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Okito did linking finger rings before Himber. And Persi invented the
ring for Himber with Willy Schneider. REad my book.
Msg #25786 Dated 0:33:33 11-21-91 25784 <--> 25787
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I was trying to take a photo of Fred Kaps in front of Mt. Fuji, but it
was too foggy. So we bought a 30x40 color pic of the Mt. and I had two
guys hold it up behind Fred. Good cropping and it looked better than
the real thing!!!! True story. Takagi was with us and thought it a
riot.
Msg #25787 Dated 0:34:52 11-21-91 25733 <--> 25801
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
MAVEN-SAN... is the formal thank you very much in Japanese:
Arigato Goziamashita?
Is the Meiji Period the 1800s?
And, when mentioning a person several time in a chapter is it
polite or required to say "Yamamoto-San" all the time, Not at all,
once...??? or what?
Appreciate any aid on this.
The Yamamoto material fits in beautifully and you (and he) will be
pleased with the treatment.
If use Yamamoto-San (is the caps and - correct?)
Inquring Minds Need to Know... adios...
Msg #25788 Dated 0:35:04 11-21-91 25734 <--> 25829
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: COIN FLIPPER
Practice man, practice. There is also a way to Peek AT THE COIN
as it spins and falls. I know an expert at this.
Msg #25789 Dated 0:35:08 11-21-91 25735 <--> 25790
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
You could also steal a banjo and rip off a chord!
Msg #25790 Dated 0:35:11 11-21-91 25735 <--> 25821
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Ooops the are Koto's in Japan, not banjos.
Msg #25791 Dated 0:35:14 11-21-91 25741 <--> 25938
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CARD CONTROL
Koornwinder's Kontrol is my favorite. Check his lecture notes. He
includes a sample of the gaffed card.
Msg #25792 Dated 0:35:17 11-21-91 25743 <--> 25942
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: RICKY JAY
I have seen Jeff in some films and he is terrific. Not a comedy
role, he was a Dr. in a western and very believable and I liked what
he did.
.
Got to call him one of these days and see how he is doing. I remember
him doing some excellent card work. His dad was no slouch!
Msg #25793 Dated 0:35:25 11-21-91 25744 <--> 25794
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
You got it monolete... Stew nearly croaked from neglect of an
absess. Not this cat... had the xrays and all the best done today.
cost almost 600 big ones... but will always be able to chip out
the gold and sell it!
Msg #25794 Dated 0:35:30 11-21-91 25744 <--> 25797
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Boy is the book getting there or what... Found woodcut 200 years
older than Hocus Pocus Jr. with the cups and ring thru cheek...
Bob Read giving me help from England... he has over 400 cuts and
prints... wowzoooo
Msg #25796 Dated 0:35:39 11-21-91 25748 <--> 26256
From: PETE BIRO
To: JACK TAVES (X)
Re: MICKEY MOUSE MAGICIAN
Byron Walker has some of the Mickey Magicians, as does Pierre
Mayer in Paris. Mayer is a big time toy collector!!! As is Christian
Fechner. I have one but don't know the year. Is plastic not tin.
What is it worth to you?
Msg #25797 Dated 0:35:44 11-21-91 25752 <--> 25802
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Again? One new set of teeth is enuf.
Msg #25798 Dated 0:35:47 11-21-91 25753 <--> 25810
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I like the line: "I have only one *"
Get it?
Msg #25800 Dated 0:35:54 11-21-91 25755 <--> 25813
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
I hope he does the fridge repair in the Summer and the Air in Winter.
Or er uh...
Msg #25801 Dated 0:35:58 11-21-91 25756 <--> 25807
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I need to know what era, time, year, whatever the Bronze Budhas
were cast... want to know when Japan made metal stuff... Any one
know? Other than Max...
Msg #25802 Dated 0:36:03 11-21-91 25776 <--> 25805
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
What? Ring Trilogy from the Yorkeee? I know he had a variant on
the Johnson Ring Trick. Is that what you considered his Trilogy?
.
Talked to Bob Read and after a three year hiatus from magic (all
his stuff was stolen and his close friend Fred Robinson's death
put him in a big funk). He has NEW MATERIAL and going like
gangbusters...
Msg #25805 Dated 0:47:24 11-21-91 25785 <--> 25806
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I'm waiting for my copy of your book! Do I get the DeLuxe Edition?
Msg #25806 Dated 0:48:21 11-21-91 25797 <--> 25815
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
MAGIC! makes me grind 'em down! I gotta keep a spare set near the
master control console.
Msg #25807 Dated 0:50:19 11-21-91 25786 <--> 25808
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I've heard that Mt. Fuji is often foggy. Some friends of mine once
left orders with the hotel to be awakened whenever it appeared - they
got a call at 5 a.m. and got to see it. Your solution is brilliant!
But did you use Fuji film?
Msg #25808 Dated 0:52:58 11-21-91 25801 <--> 25812
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
As far as I know, the Bronze Buddhas were cast by the Mayans living in
what is now Bolivia. They were shipped to Japan via Germany.
(Sorry, I don't know the the real work on the stuff you are looking
for).
Msg #25810 Dated 0:58:57 11-21-91 25798 <--> 25859
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yeah, and if you risk it, you could end up with a ;. Get it?
Msg #25812 Dated 1:00:01 11-21-91 25787 <--> 25814
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
"Arigato Gozaimashita" is past tense, and thus only used when what you
are thanking for is concluded. If it's something on-going, use "Arigato
Gozaimasu."
When refering to someone in print it is not generally necessary to use
the -san suffix at all; in a western text it usually comes off as being
affected. If you do choose to use it, the "s" is lower case.
Msg #25813 Dated 1:01:02 11-21-91 25800 <--> 25862
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
He does both year 'round. He's a very interesting guy. He's been able
to hide the problem from almost everyone - I'll bet that very few of
his friends know.
An example: Four couples are in a Chinese resturant. The fortune
cookies arrive. The woman sitting next to him reads hers out loud. So
does her husband. Now we've got a pattern going - everyone opens
theirs and reads 'em out loud. It gets to his turn. He opens it,
scans it, and starts laughing so hard he can't read! He hands it to
his wife and she reads it! Then he says, "You may not think it was so
funny, but you had to know what happened to me today..." and proceedes
to relate a story.
Msg #25814 Dated 1:02:59 11-21-91 25801 <--> 25857
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I presume you're thinking of the Kamakura Daibutsu. If so, it was cast
in 1252. Bronze- and iron-working techniques were imported to Japan
from Korea circa 150; the Chinese were doing it far earlier, perhaps as
early as the Shang dynasty (1400 BCE).
By the way, when it comes to earthenware pottery, the Japanese come
in first; examples have been found which are some 7000 years old, which
pre-dates any Mesopotamian stuff.
Msg #25815 Dated 1:05:47 11-21-91 25785 <--> 25845
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Persi did not invent the ring; rather, he _found_ it as an existing
item and applied it.
Msg #25818 Dated 1:19:07 11-21-91 25739 <--> 25830
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Hey now geno! Japan sounds like a blast! I fianally got a chance to see
who ere on a video explaining the dealers shoe, briefly explaining
a prisim to display cards to a dealer!
Msg #25819 Dated 1:36:17 11-21-91 25636 <--> 25825
From: GENO MUNARI
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thanks so much Marvin......that was such a surprise. Right now I
may be repeating messages, so please forgiv me....I have had problems
with calling out.....
Thanks,
Geno
Msg #25820 Dated 1:36:28 11-21-91 25640 <--> 25865
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Darwin has great stuff, and a lot that is not in print....I am going
to produce his video very shortly. Another book that is good is
Thumbtology(?) , don't remember the author, but good stuff.
Msg #25821 Dated 1:36:36 11-21-91 25646 <--> 25822
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Rittle Confused with that message?
Msg #25822 Dated 1:36:42 11-21-91 25647 <--> 25850
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Golf Balls......we must have message pointers confused.
Msg #25823 Dated 1:36:48 11-21-91 25649 <--> 25866
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FAX
I knew it would.....I have seen your work.....Mike Gaughan says you
are OK guy.........Lets get magicians on Leno's show.
Msg #25824 Dated 1:36:55 11-21-91 25654 <--> 25867
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ERROR
I just spent one hour trying to figure the message out....
Msg #25825 Dated 1:37:00 11-21-91 25663 <--> 25864
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
As I am writing this, I am in a jet going back to Tokyo. I don't
know what I would do without one.
Msg #25826 Dated 1:37:07 11-21-91 -> 25851
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN
The new sensation over here is the palm top computer. Sony has
several that I have seen.....also there is a small navigation
device available and for sale in the stores here, to locate your
position on a map, precisely,......very amazing and not too
costly.
Msg #25827 Dated 1:37:19 11-21-91 -> 25852
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN
It is interesting to me that the Japanese haven't developed a
good quality playing card....I have seen several decks made from
plastic, which, in my opinion, are superior to KEM plastics....
Look out if they do, because they can improve on everything. Maybe
they don't make them because of the amount of ingredients needed.
US playing Card Co. is the biggest user of shellac in the US. I
think their BEE back is the smoothest and best for magic.
I was in a small store buying some supplies and the clerk asked
me what I am doing in Japan....I told her and did a small Jack
Chanin paper tear with a 1,000 yen note. Before I was finished they
were responding, indicationg that they really enjoy magic. Presented
correctly a westerner could do very good in Tokyo...there are
hundreds of venues.......
Msg #25828 Dated 1:57:04 11-21-91 25742 <--> 25869
From: GENO MUNARI
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
I would like to buy a set of your notes Cy. Thanks in advance.
Please send to Geno Munari POB 98177, Las Vegas, NV 89193
Thank you -PLEASE ENCLOSE STATEMENT
Msg #25829 Dated 1:57:12 11-21-91 25788 <-
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COIN FLIPPER
Familar with the method, but there was the use of a man's handkerchei
f.......hank. Done alot at race tracks.
Msg #25830 Dated 1:57:19 11-21-91 25818 <--> 25927
From: GENO MUNARI
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: JAPAN
Hope you liked the gaff. I wish I had it with me now.
Msg #25831 Dated 4:13:00 11-21-91 -> 25870
From: DOUG SMITH
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MT FUJI
Liked your idea on the Mt. I quess we were lucky to see the mountain
very clearly. Only problem was that we were on the bullet train going
about 110 mph In trying to keep telephone poles out of picture I shot
only when I saw a pole. boy do they go by fast....we spent the extra
money to go from
Toyko to Kyoto sp)(for a tour..well worth
the money
Msg #25832 Dated 4:17:42 11-21-91
From: DOUG SMITH
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MT FUJI
Liked your story on Mt Fuji. The one day we saw the mountain,
everything was perfect. Only problem was that we were on the bullet
train going 110 mph. -..In trying to keep the telephone poles out of
the picture I only shot when I saw a pole,,worked ok, but the poles do
come by fast at that speed. We were taking the train from toyko to
Kyoto for a tour..It was well worth the extra money
Msg #25833 Dated 6:13:54 11-21-91 -> 25853
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Aramagosa is right at the top of my list of places to hold the IBM
convention...(by virtue of the fact that it begins with an A).
Actually, if the whole town is for rent, we might be able to
reinstate the parades that were a part of the early conventions.
Msg #25834 Dated 6:14:07 11-21-91 -> 25849
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IBM
Becki and I will be transferring planes in St. Louis for the SLC
trip. Nagel will be joining us there as well. Sounds like the core
group is definitely on the same plane.
We better warn the honey baked ham folks that Gloria is entering the
market with her Brunswick Stew...hey, I would probably do most any-
thing for a taste of that legendary dish. Maybe you could sneak some
with you to SLC and we could get some sterno and heat it up in the
room or something.
Glad to hear you got woods to walk in. That makes your place sound
a lot nicer already. Man, do they still use that moss for model
railroading!! That is what HO trees are made of! You are probably
sitting on a pile of money should you ever need to sell any of it in
a financial tight time. Sounds like to me you should revive yourself
a railroad layout on a big time scale....hey, you already got most of
the scenery...the rest is just a piece of cake.
Sorry to be so long getting back to you on this, but I been busier
than all get out back here.
Msg #25835 Dated 6:14:48 11-21-91 -> 26098
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
What we need now is a tape recording of a garbage disposal. You tell
about your practicing and drop a die into the cup. Push a "button"
on the cup and sounds of grinding are heard. Invert the cup and out
come the dozens of tiny dice that you still need to buy. Course you
will also need a blindfold for the show business aspects of the
routine.
Msg #25837 Dated 6:15:18 11-21-91 -> 25873
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASINO
Got...and am still digesting. There is one helluva lot of material
in that Last Chance Truck Stop etc.
Msg #25839 Dated 6:15:33 11-21-91 -> 25875
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Wow...with a .400 average howcomes you ended up in Photology and
tricks? You coulda been on a baseball card worth lots of bucks.
Msg #25844 Dated 6:16:42 11-21-91 25011 <--> 25879
From: BILL WELLS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WHO
Man...do you ever keep some questionable company!!!
.
...and I WILL have you know that I DO fully appreciate Roy
Benson and his contributions! I regret that I never had a chance to
see him in person.
.
...glad to see you leaving some messages...the intellectual level of
the board just went up a notch or two.
Msg #25845 Dated 6:54:15 11-21-91 25793 <--> 25846
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Gotta be careful and am glad you is being such. After you tole me of
Stew's problem last time I beat it over to the dentist and had a
check and some work done. Gracias again, amigo!!!
Msg #25846 Dated 6:54:19 11-21-91 25794 <--> 25856
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
You're really rolling on the ring book now. It will prove to be the
definative book on the rings especially with the guys you got helping
you now. Can't wait to see a copy of it. Already have shelf space
reserved!!!
Msg #25849 Dated 6:54:34 11-21-91 25834 <--> 25854
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: IBM
Yeah, we got acres of litchen growing back in the cedar forest. Who
is the big supplier of the stuff, any ideas?? Looking 4ward to seeing
you guys at the SL airport or on the airplane that day and onward.
The place here ain't half bad and we will be canning up some BS at so
me point and you guys are at the top of the list of folks who will
be getting a jug. Count on it!!
Msg #25850 Dated 7:49:14 11-21-91 25822 <--> 25884
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
It could be the message pointers, but, more often, it is the Biro that
is confused.
Msg #25851 Dated 7:50:21 11-21-91 25826 <--> 25868
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
VERY interesting, Geno! Do the palm top computers have modems? Or, at
least, serial ports? The Casio Wizard has a fax/modem available, but
I haven't seen it working yet and it costs more than the Wizard!
Msg #25852 Dated 7:52:21 11-21-91 25827 <--> 25886
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
I was going to ask you about playing cards! My friends tell me that
most Japanese prefer to use US playing cards. Wonder what they think
of the poor quality Bicycles we've been getting lately.
Msg #25853 Dated 7:54:32 11-21-91 25833 <--> 25887
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Last I knew, the whole town was for rent, complete with the World
famous Amaragosa Opera House. Unfortunately, I think the town is too
small for the convention!
Msg #25854 Dated 7:56:37 11-21-91 25834 <--> 25871
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: IBM
Er, Bill, is it really wise for the whole IBM group to be on the same
plane? We have a company policy that states that key execs NEVER do
that!
Msg #25856 Dated 9:56:04 11-21-91 25805 <--> 25863
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
You can have a 3-ring binder version soon. But the real thing will
change somewhat. Probably to 1-ring.
Msg #25857 Dated 9:56:08 11-21-91 25807 <--> 25858
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
No, my Fuji film was fogged!
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Msg #25858 Dated 9:56:11 11-21-91 25808 <--> 25861
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
That's what Tabby said.
Msg #25859 Dated 9:56:14 11-21-91 25810 <--> 25895
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Do they still have the ads in the Yeller pages of the LA fone books
for Colon Therapy? Or have they sold out to Abbotts?
Msg #25861 Dated 9:56:20 11-21-91 25812 <--> 25889
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
I would venture thanking you for your help and Yamamoto for the
permission WOULD BE PAST TENSE? NO?
Msg #25862 Dated 9:56:24 11-21-91 25813 <--> 25896
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Now that is really using your bean power! Just like a magician with
a lisp (back east) did talking act when working close up... he
hid it by "effecting" a Brooklynese way of talk... his work was
gambling related so it worked beautifully. His name? Del Ray.
Msg #25863 Dated 9:56:30 11-21-91 25815 <--> 25880
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Correcto... was for Arthritics... My guess is Willy Schneider and
PD did some revising... have a call in as we speak to do some
clarification.
Msg #25864 Dated 9:56:34 11-21-91 25819 <--> 25907
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
I don't notice any problem calling out from you. You are sending
great stuff. We have decided ( the MAGIC! Board of Directors ) that
you will not be allowed back on American soil. (We have friends at
Immigration). And that you are hereby ordered to keep sending info
from throughout the globe!
Note: With your hot iron and dice you should be able to stay in the
green for a long time!
Msg #25865 Dated 9:56:43 11-21-91 25820 <--> 26838
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
I saw that book and didn't like it. Sorry Geno.... tsk....
Msg #25866 Dated 9:56:45 11-21-91 25823 <--> 25908
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FAX
He just says I am ok (Gaughan) cause I continue to accept his comp
hotel rooms!
Msg #25867 Dated 9:56:49 11-21-91 25824 <--> 25909
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: ERROR
Geno... using IMP I dont' know what you are referring to... when you
say "I just spent one hour tryhing to figure the message out...."
please say "figure the message ABOUT XXXXX out"... I guess we are
losing things in the translation from Japanese...
Msg #25868 Dated 9:56:55 11-21-91 25826 <--> 25885
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Are the Palmtops capable of simple word processing and MODEM
connections? IE can you use them for logging onto Magic? And are
they USA Compatible? Remember the Tandy 100 was a straight ASCII
word processor with a modem?
Msg #25869 Dated 9:57:00 11-21-91 25828 <--> 25911
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Geno, Cy gets $ 5,000 for his notes...
Msg #25870 Dated 9:57:03 11-21-91 25831 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: MT FUJI
I did not do the Kyoto and regret it... next time... during FISM
TOUR WE ALL GO TO KYOTO.....
Msg #25871 Dated 9:57:07 11-21-91 25834 <--> 25883
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: IBM
Intead of putting model train in, the scale to the Moss at Tabby's
would be "OFF" -- IT WOULD BE EASIER TO PUT IN FULL SIZE TRAIN.
Msg #25873 Dated 9:57:15 11-21-91 25837 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CASINO
Some day.....
Msg #25875 Dated 9:57:21 11-21-91 25839 <--> 26496
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
When the high school guys got stronger the ball went by so fast
I couldn't hit anymore. And I was involved in a fatal accident that
soured me on the sport for YEARS...
Msg #25879 Dated 9:57:51 11-21-91 25844 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: WHO
What's the gag... If a guy from South of Holland moves to Belgium
the IQ of both countries goes up?
Msg #25880 Dated 9:57:54 11-21-91 25846 <--> 25890
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
You will need 11-inches of shelf space for my book. It will not
stand on end, gotta lay flat! Hah...
Msg #25883 Dated 9:58:09 11-21-91 25849 <--> 25888
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IBM
TAb... bring 2 of the 4 walkie talkies to SLC if you have the room.
Might need to do some testing at the Theater, etc.
Msg #25884 Dated 9:58:13 11-21-91 25850 <--> 25899
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
What Me Confused? What Me Worry?
Msg #25885 Dated 9:58:16 11-21-91 25851 <--> 25897
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Let's keep this thread going dudes...
Msg #25886 Dated 9:58:18 11-21-91 25852 <--> 25900
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I think they want to use US cards to emulate Vernon, etc. Jerry
Andrus may be the ONLY fine card man that is so "together" that
he will use Bridge size cards... no ego, or dream trips there...
just good magic by a man that knows who HE IS...
Msg #25887 Dated 9:58:24 11-21-91 25853 <--> 25901
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Do the convention over a long period of time and let only so many
into town in shifts.
Msg #25888 Dated 9:58:27 11-21-91 25854 <--> 25898
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IBM
You will note that the Biro is on his own... one glitch and I AM
IN CHARGE!!!!!!!!!
Msg #25889 Dated 9:58:31 11-21-91 25814 <--> 25893
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Kamakura it is... remember spending a wonderful day there with Kaps
and Tagaki... two of the finest people I ever had the pleasure of
knowing.
.
Did you get my message re: Meiji era? Is it spelled right? and is
that the 1800s?
.
Gracias in advance...
Msg #25890 Dated 9:58:40 11-21-91 25815 <--> 25892
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I also understand there is a yet unplublished version (of Persi's)
that I would like to locate and get permission to use... am going
to call him later today... (is lunchtime in Mass).
Msg #25892 Dated 10:22:41 11-21-91 25856 <--> 25923
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Seems to me that the book should come in either a 5-ring or a 6-ring
binder.
Msg #25893 Dated 10:25:53 11-21-91 25858 <--> 25894
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yeah, I thought that was what Tabby said - that the Bronzes came from
Bolivia - it has a familiar RING to it.
Msg #25894 Dated 10:27:36 11-21-91 25889 <--> 25905
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
You talkin' about "Tagaki" or Takagi?
Msg #25895 Dated 10:34:41 11-21-91 25859 <--> 25904
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Funny you should mention that - they just delivered my new phone book!
It is titled "Las Paginas Amarillas de Pacific Bell; Valle de San
Fernando" and there is no listing for colon therapy, it goes right from
"Colocaciones De Personal - Contratistas De" to "Colores - Empleo De
Asesores."
Msg #25896 Dated 10:39:36 11-21-91 25862 <--> 25906
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Yep (re; functional illiterate and Del Ray lisp). Just goes to show
that sometimes the real magic doesn't take place in the close-up room.
By the way, will likely be taking some guests to the Castle tonite -
Giorgio's supposed to be in early close-up.
Msg #25897 Dated 10:43:47 11-21-91 25885 <--> 25902
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
"Let's keep this thread going dudes..."? The palmtop computer thread?
It is sort of peripheral to magic, but, yeah, I'm interested too!
Msg #25898 Dated 10:45:42 11-21-91 25888 <--> 25920
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IBM
Ah! OK, if the Biro is on a different flight, then all is OK.
Msg #25899 Dated 10:49:25 11-21-91 25884 <--> 25947
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
"What Me Confused? What Me Worry?" - You aren't going MAD, are you?
Msg #25900 Dated 10:50:22 11-21-91 25886 <--> 25903
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yeah, it takes guts to use Bridge cards. I prefer 'em, and everytime
I use 'em some presumed mage sez, "You really ought to use poker size
cards." Talk about peer pressure!
Msg #25901 Dated 10:52:01 11-21-91 25833 <--> 25913
From: GENO MUNARI
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Bill this is very interesting town....it is the home of Marta Becket,
the former prima ballerina from New York. She migrated there in the
60's and built a small opera house. She also is a noted painter.
There is practically no residents in the small town, so she painted
an entire audience on the walls.....she has small productions on
the weekends, and very very unique........but this twon is very
close to Death Valley, where there is a first class hotel.....
Msg #25902 Dated 10:52:15 11-21-91 25851 <--> 25910
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Modem capability, perhaps some have built ins......but these are
really compact, now called palm tops instead of laptops....
Msg #25903 Dated 10:52:21 11-21-91 25852 <--> 25912
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Today I saw some Bee backs in the drug store her at Okura Hotel,
and some Bicycles, but the Bee backs are a better finish I think
no matter where you go. The Japanese don't gamble with playing
cards like us, but play Ma Jong, and some other games. But I am
working on getting my friend to make some for his company here...
Msg #25904 Dated 10:52:32 11-21-91 25859 <--> 25935
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I though Hy Colonic was a distant cousin of Jerry Colona!!!
Msg #25905 Dated 10:52:37 11-21-91 25861 <--> 25921
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Onasak said he would take care of business for you.
Msg #25906 Dated 10:52:43 11-21-91 25862 <--> 25937
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Any print on Del Ray or lecture notes? I have almost forgotten about
him.....would love to her about his brand of magic...I know he did
a lot with electronics......lets start a Del Rey BBS festival????
Msg #25907 Dated 10:52:51 11-21-91 25864 <--> 25922
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Free day today in Tokyo....I thought you had juice in immigration,
the guy kinda looked like you, who took pictures......
Msg #25908 Dated 10:52:58 11-21-91 25866 <-
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FAX
Vely, vely, heavy dude, if you know what I mean.....
Msg #25909 Dated 10:53:03 11-21-91 25867 <-
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ERROR
I am ok now, it must have been the altitude.....
Msg #25910 Dated 10:53:09 11-21-91 25868 <--> 25916
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Will find out today....
Msg #25911 Dated 10:53:14 11-21-91 25869 <--> 25950
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
The check is in the mail..........as we speak, I buy you pay, my
people will contact your people, lets do lunch, and do a
deal memo for a film, you bring the script.
Msg #25912 Dated 10:53:22 11-21-91 25886 <--> 25917
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I have put together a series of puzzles, eye & sight gags, optical
illusions, all of whic are public domain, together for printing
on the front of playing cards, I think I have someone very
interested in putting them out.....great for children of all ages.
Poker is the best size, plau they make great calling cards.....
Msg #25913 Dated 10:51:47 11-21-91 25887 <--> 25914
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Yeah! The other facilites near Amaragosa are in Death Valley, about 40
miles away. Last time I was there, the town had two phones. Lest you
think I'm making the whole thing up, for a couple of years we were
Patrons of the Amaragosa Opera House. But haven't heard from them in
a long time - gotta get out there to check things out.
Msg #25914 Dated 10:53:33 11-21-91 25887 <--> 25915
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Good, because I hate to travel by airplane out to Amargosa, the
long drive out to the airport makes me sick.
Msg #25915 Dated 10:54:15 11-21-91 25901 <--> 25918
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Geno -
RE: Amaragosa - you is hip to the real work! But I haven't heard from
the Beckets in years. Do you know if all is OK out there?
Msg #25916 Dated 10:55:22 11-21-91 25902 <--> 25934
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
If you get a chance, can you check out the capacity and price on these
little palmtop jewels? This sounds really interesting!
Msg #25917 Dated 10:56:32 11-21-91 25903 <--> 25928
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Bees used to be better, but I haven't tried 'em outside of a casino
lately. I'm not sure, from the conversations I had with the quality
control guy at US Playing Cards, that the quality of the standard Bee
is any higher than the quality of the standard Bicycle. Presumably,
casino cards are made to a higher standard. That is, they are punched
out and prepared in the same manner, but the inspections are held to
closer tolerances.
Msg #25918 Dated 11:00:33 11-21-91 25914 <--> 25951
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Yeah, I think the Death Valley airport is the closest one. 'Lest
that's the only one I've flown in and out of in those parts. Really,
that neighborhood would make an interesting venue for a small
invitational magic conclave.
Msg #25919 Dated 11:29:49 11-21-91
From: BRUCE SANDERCOCK
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Enjoying your messages regarding your visit to Japan. Keep them coming.
.
When will you be back in LV? I need someone with "Juice" to help
obtain a a reservation for a Suite with two adjoining rooms for January
23 through the 27th. They claim to be sold out but we all know they
keep some available at all times.
.
Can you help or supply a contact?
Thanks.
Msg #25920 Dated 13:04:40 11-21-91 25854 <--> 25932
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IBM
Yeah, but think of the lawsuit!!!
Msg #25921 Dated 13:04:43 11-21-91 25858 <--> 25929
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I'm on IMP and don't know what it is I supposedly said?
Msg #25922 Dated 13:08:43 11-21-91 25864 <--> 25952
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Hot iron on dice???? The real COOLERS!
Msg #25923 Dated 13:08:46 11-21-91 25880 <--> 25943
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I get it. A round book!!! How clever!
Msg #25926 Dated 13:22:05 11-21-91
From: BRUCE SANDERCOCK
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Enjoying your messages regarding your visit to Japan. Keep them coming.
.
When will you be back in LV? I need someone with "Juice" to help
obtain a a reservation for a Suite with two adjoining rooms for January
23 through the 27th. They claim to be sold out but we all know they
keep some available at all times.
.
Can you help or supply a contact?
Thanks.
Msg #25927 Dated 13:39:04 11-21-91 25830 <-
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
how long ago did you do that?
Msg #25928 Dated 14:21:35 11-21-91 25886 <--> 25931
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
That most card workers use poker size cards has nothing to do with ego.
And, that Jerry Andrus uses bridge width cards has nothing to do with
being "together." Finally, that Japanese magicians use American cards
has nothing to do with emulating Vernon, etc.
Other than that, your message has some fine points.
Msg #25929 Dated 14:23:37 11-21-91 25889 <--> 25940
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
The Meiji Restoration began in 1868.
Msg #25931 Dated 14:24:21 11-21-91 25912 <--> 25948
From: MAX MAVEN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
The idea of a deck of cards with optical illusions has already been
done, twice. "Can You Believe Your Eyes? 52 Visual Illusions on Playing
Cards" was released in 1984, and a sequel, "More Illusions & Visual
Oddities - 52+ Visual Illusions on Playing Cards" came out in 1987. The
production is excellent (the decks were printed in Belgium). They were
put together by Professors Block and Yuker, psychologists at Hofstra
University.
The distributor is Y&B Associates, Inc., 33 Primrose Lane, Hempstead,
NY 11550. They sell for about $6 per deck. While you're in Tokyo you
might want to check Kiddyland in the Harajuku district; I think they
have the decks in stock. (Even if they don't, it's a store worth
visiting.)
Msg #25932 Dated 15:08:51 11-21-91 25920 <--> 26489
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IBM
Yah, but think of the convention! Lots of folks milling around with no
lectures, no shows, no lights, no cameras, no action.
Msg #25934 Dated 16:30:02 11-21-91 25826 <--> 25946
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Geno,
Sorry I've not written sooner, I've been having too much fun
reading your daily messages. Actually, I feel strange corresponding
with such an international celebrity.
Japan is definitely a fun place to be. I lived over there for about
three years during my early teens. I've always wanted to go back
now that I can enjoy more adult activities. I spent an afternoon
there two years ago, when our plane's radar broke down. I was
amazed how things basically hadn't changed since I was last there
in the early seventies. I'm glad everything is working out so well
for you over there, although I kind of miss having you in Vegas. I
guess I'll survive.
It occurred to me later what you meant when you said "Don't worry,
I can get you another", when you showed me your deck that night.
When I got home, I could only find three Aces. The Ace of Clubs
somehow got lost. I'm still having fun practicing, but a three Ace
production seems to be lacking something.
When you return, I need to enlist your aid in creating a deck for
a particular effect. I bought the deck a few years ago, but it was
so badly made, it couldn't pass even the mildest scrutiny, and
since the trick involved two spectators handling their halves of
the deck for quite a long time, I haven't felt comfortable
performing it.
Also, I'm EXTREMELY INTERESTED in the navigation device you
mentioned. I'm presently working full time building a specialized
receiver to do just that. Anything you can find out would be
appreciated. Especially the navigation scheme used (does GPS, or
GLONASS ring a bell?) Any information on cost, size, where to buy,
would help greatly.
Looking forward to your return,
David (the other one)
Msg #25935 Dated 16:43:29 11-21-91 25638 <--> 25956
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I never claimed to be sane! Before I got married I would try
anything that got the adrenalin pumping. I especially
enjoyed being airborne, whether racing motorcycles, skiing,
skydiving or whatever. I got married in one piece and my
wife wants me to stay that way so now my only brushes with
disaster is if I do a magic show without being properly
prepared. Like doing a birthday party for 50 kids and I've
only got 49 balloons!
Msg #25937 Dated 16:56:50 11-21-91 25896 <--> 25945
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GIORGIO
You might want to double check the Castle schedule. I saw Giorgio in
early close-up last week. They normally don't put the same performer
in the same room in back to back weeks.
Msg #25938 Dated 17:38:49 11-21-91 25741 <--> 25941
From: JIM SISTI
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CARD CONTROL
Without tipping the exact method, Ouellet's ProControl is a key card
type of control. It's very good, incidentally. My control of choice
is also from Mr. Ouellet...it's the Swivel-Cut Control from his book,
"Close-Up Illusions." Easy...but VERY deceptive. I use it almost
exclusively now. Your money would be better spent, dollar for dollar,
on the bigger book.
Msg #25940 Dated 19:26:05 11-21-91 25733 <--> 25944
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Looks like I'll miss you in Vegas during the first week of December!
'W.
Msg #25941 Dated 19:27:10 11-21-91 25741 <--> 26110
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CARD CONTROL
Gary's ProControl is a bit more sophisticated than just
finger-flickin'....I don't want to give it away, but there's a bit more
to it.
'W.
Msg #25942 Dated 19:29:41 11-21-91 25743 <--> 25988
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: RICKY JAY
AHEM!!!
Msg #25943 Dated 20:42:47 11-21-91 25892 <--> 25966
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
One ringee dingee, two ringee dingees... fooo
Msg #25944 Dated 20:42:50 11-21-91 25893 <--> 25955
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
YOu have read the booke!
Msg #25945 Dated 20:42:53 11-21-91 25896 <--> 25976
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
You must see Girogio... and shout "do the three card monte" I would
kill for a video of that routine! One of the greatest things to
cross the close up tables in the history of the Magic Castle!
Msg #25946 Dated 20:42:57 11-21-91 25897 <--> 25949
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Meybe the comuter can fit in the thumb tip I keep telling dudes
to put with the zombie and smash!
Msg #25947 Dated 20:43:01 11-21-91 25899 <--> 26111
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
That sounds COMICAL!
Msg #25948 Dated 20:43:04 11-21-91 25900 <--> 25954
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
tELL them you will use poker sized cards when you play poker!
Msg #25949 Dated 20:43:06 11-21-91 25902 <--> 25960
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
So give us details about palm tops, price and capability??? huh???
Msg #25950 Dated 20:43:09 11-21-91 25911 <--> 25958
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
You got it dude, we is in like Flynn?
Msg #25951 Dated 20:43:12 11-21-91 25913 <--> 25981
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
There is another berg out there that is cooler than cool (except
in July/August) and that town is called "Searchlight"... YO!
Msg #25952 Dated 20:43:16 11-21-91 25922 <--> 25957
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
If you only knew the dice work Geno knows... argh... we would al
be rich if we hat the cayones!
Msg #25954 Dated 20:43:23 11-21-91 25928 <--> 25959
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
I just happen to feel that way. I could be wrong.. altho I NEVER
HAVE BEEN WRONG EVER????? AHRG
Msg #25955 Dated 20:43:27 11-21-91 25929 <--> 25979
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thanks Max about the Meiji. I used to shop at the New Meiji in
Gardena to get authentic Japanese delicasies!!!
Msg #25956 Dated 20:43:30 11-21-91 25895 <--> 25975
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I know I moved to N. Calif., jus' in time... argh...
Msg #25957 Dated 20:43:33 11-21-91 25907 <--> 25963
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Tell Onasaka that Maven came thru and all is good!
Msg #25958 Dated 20:43:36 11-21-91 25911 <--> 25962
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Did you find Kori Tokyo Ten (silk store?)
Msg #25959 Dated 20:57:13 11-21-91 25931 <--> 25980
From: GENO MUNARI
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yes, I have a set or two, but rather expensive at $6.00 a deck for a
give away........but a little different than I will have printed.
But thanks for thinking of me.
Msg #25960 Dated 20:59:48 11-21-91 25934 <--> 25961
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
I will do my best to find out something for you.
Msg #25961 Dated 21:00:19 11-21-91 25949 <--> 25971
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Just got a brochure....David L. I hope you reading this.....There are
three palm tops available......at around $68,000, I mean Yen, so
figure about 126 yen to the $. I have a brochure in hand will
decypher, and send along..
Msg #25962 Dated 21:03:04 11-21-91 25950 <--> 25964
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Frank you very much........Ton Onasaka is really a nice person. We
will give him the royal treatment when in USA. Why not mention to
Joe to put him on international advisory lt.
Msg #25963 Dated 21:04:38 11-21-91 25957 <--> 26115
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
OK.
Msg #25964 Dated 21:04:52 11-21-91 25958 <--> 25993
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
When I go to Hong Kong.
Msg #25965 Dated 23:42:06 11-21-91 -> 25982
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
It was interesting at the Nashville Magic Club tonight. They had
a pretty good turnout and elected officers. A one time MAGIC!
member, Richard Street, was elected president and Gary Hayes,
president, was elected vp. I think you know Gary. Supreme Magic
se rep, Bruce Amato who has offered advice on the conclave
several months was there.
.
Richard Street had lost his modem and computer for a while, but
he finally got it back, a work relaqted thing. Richard was in on
the initial talking about the conclave and then he dissapeared
and now he turns up pres elect of nash magic. Was glad to see. I
also joined the club tonight too as well as a kid who did card
magic. I hope they'll support me on the conclave. There were a
couple of guys there who had already signed up. Some guys were
passing a copy of Stan Allen's new mag around and it was the
first time most of them had seen it. Somebody saw the ad on Music
City Conclave and asked about it. I gave them a talk on why I was
doing it and about my dreams and ideas on it. I got the feeling
that some of them never heard of it yet. Most DO NOT READ any
magazine but LINKING RING. Bill Wells is RIGHT! Once I got over
the shock I started having fun and met some cool guys who I went
nosh with til 1am. One guy working on PhD in Psych, a songwriter
for biggest country publisher, Tree Intl, magic and baseball card
dealer, a student and a couple guys who drove down from Bowling
Green. One guy from Dallas said his mentor was ROGER CRABTREE!!!
and he was the country songwriter too.
.
Now that I'm in the club, I am going to suggest that they take
some of that dues money and buy subscriptions to at least The GENII
and MAGIC.
.
It is also quite hard to imagine living in a world of magic
without MAGIC! and the opportunities it offers. The big news
tonight at the meeting was the talk of the Copperfield purchase.
Also out of the dozen or so performers I saw tonight I saw two
things I liked. One a silk appearance from mouth presented by the
teen ager and the other an original (?? at least I hadn't seen
it) comedy using a lota from the PhD candidate. Also another guy
got up and told about a trick he used to do. It was pretty funny
actually.
.
Also learned that Joe Carazini, the gent that does the cigarette
eating from the Sullivan Show lives just up the road in a house
trailer with his brother, his agent, just over the Kentucky line.
I am supposed to get his phone number tomorrow.
Msg #25966 Dated 0:19:08 11-22-91 25802 <--> 25967
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
In one of York's books he has a full routine which is called A Ring
Trilogy -- three effects, naturellement.
Msg #25967 Dated 0:20:56 11-22-91 25785 <--> 25968
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Or read mine...also, Orson Welles did linking finger rings ( a whole
bunch of them) in his Mercury Wonder Show for servicemen in the 40's.
Msg #25968 Dated 0:24:08 11-22-91 25863 <--> 25969
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Yes -- Persi saw the arthritic's ring and saw how it could be adapted;
but the EFFECT of the Linking Finger Rings as we now know it was indeed
created by him.
Msg #25969 Dated 0:26:09 11-22-91 25890 <--> 25989
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I also have an unpublished version -- in which the performer never
touches the rings -- and no, there is no stooge. Maybe someday I will
publish it.
Msg #25970 Dated 0:41:46 11-22-91 25781 <--> 26006
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
BIRO.ZIP now exists for you to upload at your leisure. All you have
to do is change the password in the 2 files MAGICLOG.ASp & MAGICREP.A
SP and create 2 entries to call MAGIC! in PCPLUS. One entry should
use the script MAGICLOG and the other MAGICREP. You will have to chan
ge the directory numbers in the ASP files to point to the appropriate
entries in your system. The compile the ASP files to create the ASX
files and you are in business. Enjoy !
Msg #25971 Dated 1:08:19 11-22-91 25946 <--> 25972
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
In a way, I wish they wouldn't keep making the darn computers and stuff
smaller and smaller. I'm a fiend for micromineaturization - I always
gotta have the smallest, etc. Not only does it cost me money every
time they come up with a smaller electronic or photographic devices,
but, quite seriously, so far I have LOST one microcassette recorder and
a television set! The recorder merely seems to be lost on my desk,
probably under a credit card. The tele seems to be gone for good - I
haven't been able to find it in 5 years.
Msg #25972 Dated 1:11:12 11-22-91 25961 <--> 25974
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thanks, Geno - I got your phone message when I got home and yeah, I was
at the Castle tonite. Only it seems I was looking at the wrong
schedule! Tony worked LAST WEEK. DRAT! But Bruce Cervon and Tom
Ogden were good, and Bruce Gold, Christopher Hart, and Robert Dorian
were in the Palace. Gold does a nice psychic toaster bit. Hart has
some very creative ideas, one really beautiful cross between a Kevin
James hand and a zombie ball, but he's gotta work a little on flashing.
Msg #25974 Dated 1:14:47 11-22-91 25972 <--> 25999
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
By the way, in the prev. message I just coldly wrote "got your phone
message." The real thing I intended to say was THANKS! It was really
nice to come home to a message from you and I appreciate the info you
were able to collect. I can, most certainly, get it translated and I
look forward to it.
Msg #25975 Dated 1:17:40 11-22-91 25956 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
It (the local phone book) doesn't bother me. But I must admit that I
paid no attention to Spanish in high school - used to sit in the far
back corner workin' on card tricks. WIsh I'd known it was actually
useful info!
Msg #25976 Dated 1:16:24 11-22-91 25945 <--> 25977
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Hey now, Pete,
You remember when Tony Georgio was on the Playboy Club TV Show?
Hes doing a four ace routiene and blowing away hugh hefner and other
top stars of the day!
killer clown,
SCOTT |8-) ALCALAY
Msg #25977 Dated 1:19:53 11-22-91 25937 <--> 25994
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: GIORGIO
Uh, yeah, Stan. I found out - I was a week late! I must have
overslept.
Msg #25979 Dated 1:31:04 11-22-91 25944 <--> 25985
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thought of you tonite. I watched Ogden do linking rings and Gold do
linking coathangers (with linking hacksaw). Also watched three
different people do Professor's Nightmare - all with the SAME LINES.
Msg #25980 Dated 1:34:02 11-22-91 25948 <--> 25992
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
RE: "Tell 'em you will use poker sized cards when you play poke!"
YEAH! I like that! Thanks!
Msg #25981 Dated 1:35:58 11-22-91 25951 <--> 26012
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Yeah, Searchlight! Actually, there are any number of cool places out
there. We used to know the gal who owned Rhyolite, which has always
been one of my favorite towns. And there's Ballarat and ... Good
stuff! You ever been out to the moving rocks in Death Valley?
Msg #25982 Dated 1:39:39 11-22-91 25965 <--> 26001
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
By the way, I haven't had a chance to mention the new GENII yet, but
there are some interesting items in there - a couple by a guy who calls
himself "tabman."
Msg #25985 Dated 4:48:58 11-22-91 25786 <--> 26010
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Forget the fog. Hirosige produced a series of prints called
"Hundred Views of Fiji". Buy them and forget photography. The
"Great Wave" is probably one of the greatest art works of all
times. Fuji can be seen - almost. Better than fog tho.
Msg #25988 Dated 5:25:33 11-22-91 25792 <--> 26015
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RICKY JAY
Jeff Altman is a friend. Mention my name if you contact him. He
was in Baltimore attending Hopkins and spent much time with Frank
Thompson and me. Don't know how he was able to graduate. Was with
him a couple of months ago and he can still do good stuff.
.
Met his father Art only once, and he did nothing as he was
suffering from Lou Gehrig disease. Art was a close friend of
Marlo as Art visited Chicago many times as a salesman for
pharmesuticals. That can't be the right spelling!!
.
Jeff can be seen Saturdays on "Nurses". Its on NBC. In the east
it's at 9:30 PM.
Msg #25989 Dated 5:25:49 11-22-91 25794 <--> 25990
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
What is you book exactly? Finger rings or the big ones, or both?
You do know that Mentzer did an excellent book on finger rings.
.
Speaking of the ring off the rope which started with Roy Johnson
and Ray Grismer, ask Bill Wells to explain the case of Scotty
York who wound up in court with another magician which started
over who had the first version of Scotty's method.
.
Incidently Frank Thompson had some input into this effect, which
has never been mentioned.
Msg #25990 Dated 5:26:04 11-22-91 25802 <--> 25991
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Spent some time with Bob Read when I was in England. We visited
a Jazz Club and then saw him and Robinson at the Magic Circle.
Strange to say with all of this I've never seen Bob do a trick.
Well it's my loss.
Msg #25991 Dated 5:26:12 11-22-91 25815 <--> 26002
From: CY KELLER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Max - I've heard the arthritic ring story but also have heard
there is no such thing. This was checked out with many jewelers
by Ed Vohrees of Philadelphia. Would be interested in hearing from
Perci or Willie Schneider to set the matter straight.
Msg #25992 Dated 5:26:21 11-22-91 25827 <--> 25995
From: CY KELLER
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Agreed that the Bee Brand is best. Del Ray uses them a lot, but
you have a hard time if a card is face up in the deck and
shouldn't be noticed.
Msg #25993 Dated 5:26:28 11-22-91 25869 <--> 26000
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
No I don't. I wish I did! Some of my prized possessions are early
Pete Biro lecture notes. I'm not sure they are orignals. I do
remember without looking them up the "Rat Trap" card sword.
Msg #25994 Dated 5:26:35 11-22-91 25906 <--> 26009
From: CY KELLER
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Agree on the Del Ray Festival. Del uses electronics a great deal,
along with superb skill. Don't know why you used past tense in
your message.
.
He used Hamman's "Final Aces" with Bee brand cards. There is
someone in Pittsburg who does this stuff. Think he helps out Paul
Goetner also.
.
Worked a gig with Del, who after his stage routine explained that
he would do more close-up. I was from row center when he started.
His table looks like and ordinary foldup table, but when I felt
under it it seemed like it was 6" thick.
.
Our sysop (should that be capitalized? I'll have to check the New
York Times style book.) would like to know that he has a tiny
frog which he places on your hand and upon command stands on it's
front legs. Amazing!!
.
I'll be interested in hearing others reply on Del for the
Festival, but I must say he is in good company. There was another
magician who used electrical magic and sleight of hand combined.
His name? Robert-Houdin, of course.
Msg #25995 Dated 5:27:02 11-22-91 25928 <--> 25996
From: CY KELLER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Card perfomers use poker sized cards because that is the standard
size and, in the case of Bicycle, the brand most common in the
United States. Check this out in your local Drug Store.
.
Nobody would recognize Fox Lake Specials. They might think they
are trick cards, which in many cases they are.
.
Max, I'm sorry this I think sould be addressed to Pete.
.
Some of the things Jerry Andrus does can not be done with the
poker sized deck - even with his large hands.
Msg #25996 Dated 5:27:17 11-22-91 25931 <--> 25998
From: CY KELLER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Max - I was going to answer the same way with much less detail.
Maybe the best thing in this BBS is to try not to have people re-
invent the wheel.
Msg #25998 Dated 7:51:44 11-22-91 25959 <--> 26011
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Was it you, Geno, that left a Tokyo phone Number on my answering
machin last night? Couldn't tell. Don't know what time of day
to call so I won't!! So there!!
Msg #25999 Dated 7:51:49 11-22-91 25961 <--> 26007
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
That comes to about 540 US Buckaroos....
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