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Msg #26000 Dated 7:51:52 11-22-91 25962 <--> 26019
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Good Idea Geno... will talk to Joe about it...
Msg #26001 Dated 7:51:55 11-22-91 25965 <--> 26013
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
Carazini was a great act. Saw him in Vegas and got to spend some
time rappin' with him on a couple of occasions. Wondered what had
happened to him... heard not good things!
Msg #26002 Dated 7:51:59 11-22-91 25966 <--> 26003
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Will cheque out the Twilogeeeee
Msg #26003 Dated 7:52:02 11-22-91 25967 <--> 26004
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
"Or read mine" (what? where?) Wood like 2.
Welles was very tight with Himber... hence the Film of Welles you
will see working a trick with Copperfield (was made for and came
from the Himber estate) at the Wiltern.
Msg #26004 Dated 7:52:08 11-22-91 25968 <--> 26005
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Were you around NY at the time? Himber Ring era. And was it Willy
Schneider that made the stuff? That was my recollection of the
story. I used to be close to all those guys, Schneider, Schwartz,
Levy, etc.... and lectured for them a number of times.
Msg #26005 Dated 7:52:13 11-22-91 25969 <--> 26016
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
It would be real nice in MY BOOK (and you could work out a $$$ deal
with me...) NOT PUSHING... just suggesting.
Msg #26006 Dated 7:52:17 11-22-91 25970 <--> 26390
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
You are not just Bizarre... you are NICE ....
I don't want to flaunt my ignorance... duh...
But... What is meant by "Change the directory numbers" in the
ASP files? Is there an error in your message where you say
"The compile the ASP files...." Should it start "They" or "Then"?
On the dialing menu at the right end to I put the names of the
script files? so it will find 'em?
Remember me, computer dummy... just medium typist and one liner
man...
Msg #26007 Dated 7:52:27 11-22-91 25972 <--> 26008
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: AS AN ASIDE - WHEN DOING
Did you tell Hart? You got to... can't tell others, got to tell
the real dudes first... is the biro law now...
Msg #26008 Dated 7:52:31 11-22-91 25974 <--> 26055
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I got a phone message too, but did not thank him as I was sound
asleep. Or was it fast asleep?
I am ready to quit MAGIC! No one has thought of a card for the
trick I posted. It was a serious question and important to something
I am writing.
.
NUTS TO ALL OF YOU. I AM GONE.
Msg #26009 Dated 7:52:39 11-22-91 25976 <--> 26020
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Biro told me to tell you (he is gone forever) that he missed the
Playboy shows, but heard about it.
Msg #26010 Dated 7:52:43 11-22-91 25979 <--> 26014
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
OK, I'm back... but only temporarily...
Three guys doing the Osborne (or maybe Carlyle) 3 - 1 rope with
the same patter... cheeshh... don't nobody check those things out.
There should be a BANNED EFFECT LIST at the Castle. After the
opening night they got to do a meeting and swap around so nobody
duplicates the magic...
Msg #26011 Dated 7:52:50 11-22-91 25980 <--> 26021
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
If you have whatever size cards YOU wanna use... use 'em. Nobody
has the right to tell you you are a sissy for using toy cards.
If you can palm bridge sized cards better (hand size) use them.
Laymen don't have a clue. Size means nothing.
.
I do know that many moves ARE EASIER with the wider Poker cards
because of the Leverage afforded the wider surface.
.
Andrus uses Bridge cards because they sleeve better and the shifts
he does are easier thanks to the lesser distance things have to
go to clear a bridge width deck.
.
Some of the most effective reactions to my card work has been with
beat up, wrinkled, incomplete decks of cards people drag out of a
kitchen drawer for me to work with.
.
"It was amazing... did all these miracles with MY OLD DECK OF CARDS,
not the usual trick kind magicians use!" - is a common reply that
is often heard in these conditions.
.
Some time ago, before Poker size double facers were readily
available, I used Bridge cards in my convention close up shows
to do Versa Plus (a trick that relied on double face card that you
destroyed each show).
Msg #26012 Dated 7:53:14 11-22-91 25981 <--> 26062
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Last time I was in Rhyolite I bought some old antique bottles. But
didn't find any vintage casino equipment... which I am always
on the lookout for. None in Beatty or Goldfield either.
.
I hit those towns once a year during the Nevada 500 desert road
race...
.
There was one old saloon up there someplace that was all "tin
paneling" inside... and the bulletholes in the walls were all
still in place "from several disagreements over card games" the
barman told me....
Msg #26013 Dated 7:53:26 11-22-91 25982 <--> 26093
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
I saw the mag, but it is not been read by this fella yet... much
to do today... my VCR should be back from repair...
Msg #26014 Dated 7:53:30 11-22-91 25985 <--> 26051
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
Got too many books now... a pal of mine runs a photo agency in
Japan and Switzerland (lives mostly in Switzerland) and he has
published several books (he sent me most of them).... I do some
work for him, but never seem to get paid... thanks for reminder
will call him and scream and holler!!!!
Msg #26015 Dated 7:53:36 11-22-91 25988 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: RICKY JAY
Jeff is super talent... I really like what he is doing. Did you
ever see his "ill fated" series... "Pink Lady and Jeff"? Was two
young Japanese pop singers with Jeff for relief. Great talents
but the writing stunk.
.
I don't know if the phone no. he gave me is still current... but
if I chat him up will tell him you said Howdy...
Msg #26016 Dated 7:53:44 11-22-91 25989 <--> 26017
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
The book started as a gag... Tabby and I were chatting about Busby
and "The Man Who Was Erdnase" and decided to write one up on the
Man who invented the Linking Rings... So we wrote the chapter and
it started to grow. I went to Byron Walkers to see about looking
at some antiquarian books that had the linking rings within the
covers... found much good stuff... but AMAZINGLY very little early
stuff on the sourece. Most said, "Its origins are unknown... etc.
This made me mad and curious. Then I had a lot of stuff on the
finger rings so decided to include. The most important thing of
mine was the creation of the effect Fred Kaps used on TV, that of
getting a borrowed ring onto the stem of a champagne glass. A few
variants were claimed by others and I got some good letters, etc.
and comments on that... then I found that there were a number of
clever things, like the bent rings coming out of the audience,
and the real creator had not been given proper credit.
.
Then the variations (one I used for years) on George Blake's
Perverse Rings is discussed (Topper Martyn version, etc.)...
Then I got into the standard handlings, Cardini discovering the
oversized ring...
.
MY STEALING JAY MARSHALL ROUTINE, THEN WHY I REALIZED THAT WAS
WRONG... AND TALKED ABOUT IT...
.
Jay give me several amazing anecdotes, including some about Benson
and Mullholland and material on OTHER THINGS PEOPLE LINK, like
Pool cue racks, Toilet seats, Tamborines...
.
Then at the L.A. Historic Conf. H. Yamamoto presented the first
known written record of the effect....
.
And now I am tracking down material from the Dark Ages on the
European continent... from early woodcuts, etc.
.
I have over 100 pages typeset already (Ventura Publishing program
on the PC)... and soon will be doing the photo shoot on the
contemporary stuff.
.
Am also trying to gather photos of magi doing the effect.
.
Anyone that has pix of anybody doing the rings. Linking, finger,
etc... would appreciate the loan for the book.
.
Whew... that's only part of the story.... tanks..
Msg #26017 Dated 7:54:26 11-22-91 25990 <--> 26018
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Might be seeing Bob soon, if I can get him to come to the IBM (not
this year, I don't think) at Quebec City in 1993.
Msg #26018 Dated 7:54:30 11-22-91 25991 <--> 26042
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Cy... am going to check the source. Need a number on Willy Scneider.
I know he moved south... Florida?
Msg #26019 Dated 7:54:34 11-22-91 25993 <--> 26041
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Holy mackerel... you got my notes.... Tsk.... did you attend the
NY lectures or the Boston SAM?
Msg #26020 Dated 7:54:37 11-22-91 25994 <--> 26058
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Del Ray's table with the mouse running all over the place and the
"juice" dice work is probably as strong a close up session as
there has EVER BEEN.... Not only technically great, but his style
and his manner of presentation is KILLER.... I would gues there
would be no act anywhere as strong for a hospitality room at a
sales convention.
You know someone ripped off the act and was Censured pretty
severely this last year!
Msg #26021 Dated 7:54:47 11-22-91 25995 <--> 26022
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
I have a lot of the OLD Fox Lake Specials... got all from the
old stuff of Lloyd Jones... they are all yellowing and not usable,
but interesting gaffs were printed on that stock. I think Sen.
Crandall's "Photographic" card trick is in the collection somewhere.
Msg #26022 Dated 7:54:52 11-22-91 25996 <--> 26052
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
Sometimes the wheels we get NEED re-inventing. Especially if you
beleive the MAJORITY of dealer advertising.
.
A friend of mine recently paid a ton for a trick where a ring
jumps out of a wooden base and appears in a covered (glass dome)
Champagne glass.
.
A PIECE OF CRAP!
.
Great idea but needs to be re invented by a quality maker! They
barely sanded the wood and the hole for the ring is so narrow you
would be lucky if a round wire would fit in it! And if anyboduy
looks at it from about 6 feet away the secret is tipped.
Msg #26023 Dated 7:55:06 11-22-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: RING BOOK
Ee;25996
I must say, (forgot to mention this in message to Cy), that there
has been NOTHING BUT COOPERATION and wonderful help from several
members of MAGIC!, in regard to help, and INFORMATION....
.
Due credit for this cooperation and comeraderie WILL BE IN THE BOOK.
.
MUCHAS THANKCIAS....
Msg #26024 Dated 7:59:25 11-22-91 -> 26095
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: BAD CRC
Just DL BIRO.ZIP, via X-Modem... got Error count: 1, message: BAD CRC.
Does this mean I am in trouble? Or do it fix itself?
Msg #26025 Dated 8:12:38 11-22-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HELP
Just logged on with Magic.log... and got:
Error 9, Line 12: define MAGIC_ENTRY "1"
.Line 12: define MAGIC_ENTRY "1"
Msg #26026 Dated 8:17:41 11-22-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MORE
OK, I changed dialing directory entry nr. to 2 (which it is) and to
3 on the REP file... still no good? Mhhhh... it is just me, I am sure.
Later.... willlook over moreand try agian.... bye..
Msg #26027 Dated 8:32:35 11-22-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ?
I looked up and old readburt you sent to wells and tried Alt F5 and
entered the correct asp file and stil got same error message. So, will
wait until I hear from you.... ARGH!! ARGH!! ARGH!! ARGH!! AND DOUBLE
aRgH-1/2...... later...
Msg #26028 Dated 9:32:53 11-22-91 -> 26067
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FOOD FOR THOUGHT
I guess a glass head filled with pills is at least more decorative
than an empty glass head.
Msg #26030 Dated 9:33:22 11-22-91 -> 26096
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Tuna fish!!...and I was hoping that you would be offering Mounds
candy bars!
...on second thought...how big is the can of tuna?
Msg #26034 Dated 9:34:18 11-22-91 25234 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: HARKEY
Excellent coverage of the Harkey lecture! Thanks Cy.
Msg #26035 Dated 9:34:24 11-22-91 25256 <--> 26070
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NEW FILES
My monitor will never be the same after displaying the Vegas.gif!!
.
I don't think I have ever seen a non x-rated gif file. This may be
another first for MAGIC!
.
Thanks other David...
Msg #26036 Dated 9:34:41 11-22-91 -> 26103
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I might suggest that you NOT teach him DEL and FORMAT just yet....
Msg #26037 Dated 9:34:47 11-22-91 -> 26121
From: BILL WELLS
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
I have great respect for the feats of the Irish in Pubs, near Pubs,
or when speaking of Pubs. Our kids had an Irish nannie for a couple
of years and she often demonstrated your leadership in the "Publick
domain".
Msg #26038 Dated 9:34:59 11-22-91 -> 26407
From: BILL WELLS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHAT
The feather thru quarter is simply a lead in for Cy's seldom seen
chicken thru the half effect.
Msg #26039 Dated 9:35:07 11-22-91 -> 26071
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOTKEY
Pete...did you try using an editor to replace my name with your name?
Msg #26041 Dated 9:36:05 11-22-91 25742 <--> 26060
From: BILL WELLS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
You mean you now have lecture notes that actually describe an effect?
I remember your wonderful notes when you first started lecturing...a
simple listing of effects and where they were in print. Those who
were interested enough had all the information they needed to go
look up the effects and learn them. Too bad you have gotten
commercial in your old age!
Msg #26042 Dated 9:36:22 11-22-91 25802 <--> 26049
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Scotty's finger ring routine was developed in the early '70's. Then
we got Roy Johnson's great routine and discovered to our horror that
much of the routine had ALREADY been done by Johnson. Much of the
first attempt was abandoned and new material added. Since it was a
three phase routine and Tolken was all the rage about that time, I
named Scotty's routine "The Ring Triology" when I wrote it up for the
lecture notes. It remains one of my favorite routines from Scotty's
material.
Msg #26044 Dated 9:36:54 11-22-91 -> 26050
From: BILL WELLS
To: ALL
Re: HART IS THE THING
Christopher Hart is the feature story in the style section of today's
Washington Post. Not only does he get a 7"x8" photo on the front
page (Raul Julia and Anjelica Houston only rate a 2 1/2" x 3" insert
they must share with Thing) but he gets a second photo in the
continuation of the article on page 6. The article is excellent and
goes beyond the recent article in the last M A G I C magazine. The
Adams Family film is getting excellent reviews here with Chris' name
usually being mentioned in those as well.
Msg #26045 Dated 10:52:02 11-22-91 25624 <--> 26129
From: MIKE KING
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
Thanks for the "thought". I may be your way (Nashville) early next
year. Maybe I could hace a look then. I just had a talk with Milt
Larsen and I am going to help put the film and video collection in
order for the new Castle library. I'm sure there is a Morietti tape
there somewhere. Well got to dash. Catch ya later. MIKE.
Msg #26046 Dated 11:10:16 11-22-91 -> 26063
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: LECTURE AGENT
MAGIC!-NL Sun 17 Nov 91 12:10
Arnaud Van.Rietschoten posted the following msg:
Geno,
If you have serieus plans to 'do' Europe with a lecture tour, I
can recommend you Jean-Yves Prost in France. He does the majority
of the lectures here in Europe and has many contacts. You may
wish to exchange experiences with some other lectures we had here
in the past like Daryl (when does he come online?), Michael Ammar,
John Carney, Jamy Ian Swiss and David Roth. I believe they were
also guided by Prost.
His address:
Jean Yves Prost,
16 Quai de Bondy,
69005 Lyon
FRANCE
Good luck...
Arnaud
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Msg #26047 Dated 11:10:26 11-22-91 -> 26075
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: INLOG
MAGIC!-NL Sat 16 Nov 91 01:12
Tommy Wonder posted the following msg:
Hello David.
25 november I will be in the states for just a few days and would
like to log in during that time. I assume that I am still
registered with the same password. However, is there a
possibilitie, when I log in that I only get the messages of the
last day. I am afraid that otherwise, if I ask for the new
messages that I will get a list of around 100.000 messages. If
that could be done it would be nice.
I will only be in SFO for a few days. before I go to Japan, but
it will be nice to be on-line with everybody again.
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Msg #26049 Dated 12:31:34 11-22-91 25780 <--> 26053
From: EVAN KATZ
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
WOW! This surprises me a great deal because: A) I am a complete,
absolute and total skeptic when it comes to these kinds of things, and
B) You strike me as a critical and rational observer. I guess my
primary question is the most obvious one -- if this guy can produce
these effects under controlled conditions, why isn't he on the front
page of every newspaper in the country?
Msg #26050 Dated 12:35:31 11-22-91 26044 <--> 26074
From: EVAN KATZ
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
It's interesting just how much PR attention he's getting, isn't it?
People must be fascinated by Thing, and I also think it's due to the
behind-the-scenes angle -- everyone wants to get an insider's peek at
stuff... I hope the film does well as an industry person, but the
initial reviews in VARIETY and the LA TIMES have been decidedly
negative.
Msg #26051 Dated 12:47:43 11-22-91 25985 <--> 26087
From: MAX MAVEN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
Cy: the ukiyo-e print you're thinking of is not by Hiroshige, but
rather Hokusai. "The Great Wave at Kanagawa" is one of his Thirty-Six
(not one hundred) Views of Mount Fuji.
Msg #26052 Dated 12:50:11 11-22-91 25995 <--> 26054
From: MAX MAVEN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
Agreed. Vernon postulated a further reason to use poker-size cards:
because the proportions are closer to the Golden Rectangle, and thus
they are aesthetically more pleasing.
Msg #26053 Dated 12:51:47 11-22-91 26016 <--> 26072
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Yamamoto's first initial is not H. Check your conference program.
Msg #26054 Dated 12:52:16 11-22-91 26021 <--> 26057
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
The earliest Fox Lake Specials were done on poker-size Aviators, back
when John Snider had the company prior to Ron Haines. The Fox Lake name
was taken from the lake behind his farmhouse.
Msg #26055 Dated 13:02:46 11-22-91 25934 <--> 26091
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
David- I have the brochure on PYXIS, by Sony) in front of me, it
is in Japanese, but I am sure you can get it translated. It is
very interesting to say the least.......it sells for about 158,000
yen, which is about $1260.00 US...I will bring the info home
for you....
No problem with the cards, just let me know what you need, and
I will make up what you like.......There is a great mental effect
in "The Magic of My Friends", that uses a special set up deck, I
believe the effect is by Steven Minch.....good idea. Check it
out and I will make you another for this also...........
See you later....
Geno Munari
Msg #26056 Dated 13:03:06 11-22-91 -> 26080
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Off to Hong Kong this afternoon to relax and get some shirts made.
I will also find some silk to bring back for magic.
Today I went on the Subway, and that was a real experience.
It is just like the movies.....a free for all if you want to sit
down, and women and children have no preference, unless you are
old.......it is very efficient and easy to understand....just follow
the signs. The cost was 160 yen, or about $1.25.
I went down to the Akihabara district and looked at plastic food
samples....they are incredible.....but real expensive...for
instance two eggs sunny side up are about $35 US, but they look
so real you get hungry........
I saw a Japanese comedian in the Asakusa View Hotel, he was doinf sit
e (sight) gags. The first one he did was take out his handkerchief
and then wipe his nose on his sleeve. He did not use his hank....
Then he made a big deal out of straightening out his tie. This
type of material reminds me of a magician called ALI, "The Thief
of Bad Gags", this was his sort of humor........he was a friend
of Harry Stanley....funny stuff this Japanese guy who is named,
Nishijima.......He did another one with a hat.....took it off and
made a big to-do about getting it on correctly.....I think
Gleason would have loved this guy, and probably Nishijima was
a student of Gleason and Carson.....Carson used to lift a great
deal of Gleason's material.....such as the idea behind KARNAK.
I hear about this Japanese magician called Marek.....I will try to
find him....they say he does pretty good close-up magic. I found
out that this town is ripe for a good close-up magician, but
the people prefer Americans or Europeans over their native sons.
They like our style and ways...........
Msg #26057 Dated 13:39:55 11-22-91 25992 <--> 26059
From: GENO MUNARI
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
Right on....but I make up a few special decks, and the smoothness
of the cards are great for second dealing, of which I have several
effects that are great for this.....I really want to purchase your
lecture notes that mention the "Spectator Cutting The Aces".
Please let me know the details......I really enjoy your input on
this BBS........
Geno Munari
Msg #26058 Dated 13:40:09 11-22-91 25994 <--> 26065
From: GENO MUNARI
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Jimmy Grippo talks a great deal about Del Ray, I am just sorry
I haven't seen him yet.....Jan Grippo and I would sit and talk
about magicians and their acts....he did mention Del Ray a few
times...........
Msg #26059 Dated 13:40:18 11-22-91 25998 <--> 26061
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I was doing a telephone card trick......the one Audley Walsh used to
do.....you would have been very popular had you answered....I would
have got you 500,000 yen or my personal check for 50 cents....
I will be looking for the popcorn trick, but please give me more deta
il.
Msg #26060 Dated 13:40:29 11-22-91 26000 <--> 26385
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Yes....please do...he is fantastic.....a a real lover of magic.
Msg #26061 Dated 13:40:35 11-22-91 26011 <--> 26079
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
On the JAL flight, I used their cards which are bridge size and of in
ferior quality, but who wants to hear that. You are right, just do
the trick and get on with it.......
Msg #26062 Dated 13:40:43 11-22-91 26012 <--> 26082
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
That place is in Goodsprings........but a place for old equipment
is near Indian Springs, about 100 miles out of Las Vegas. I found
a Will and Finck BJ table, claw legs and all.......Went into a local
bar and my friend pulled the rope, just inside the door. The
entire patronage turned to us and applauded...by yanking on the
Miner's bell, it was a local custom to by a round of drinks. Oh yes,
this town was MINA, Nevada. The we looked at the hats that were
hung on the wall, with a few of them above the rest. Finally I
got the nerve to ask.....if you wear your hat in, it goes on the
wall, if you die, it gets moved up to the top.......
Msg #26063 Dated 13:41:00 11-22-91 26046 <--> 26104
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: LECTURE AGENT
Thank you so much. I will contact him. I will be very interested
in lecturing and appreciate your help.
Msg #26065 Dated 14:25:18 11-22-91 26009 <--> 26083
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Frogs in MAGIC? i am perplexed to the nature of the frog within the
kindered art. Was it a performing frog? I have seen a stuffed frog
sawing another stuffed frog in half. but to a modern day performer, I
know of such instance. MAYBE it was second on the bill for the CHICKEN
TRICK described in this issue genii?????
GONE DADDY GONE, the thrill is gone! Yes, but to modern technology, I
have obtained copies of this magnificent piece of television history!
.
Oh where oh where can BIRO be? you said he is gone forever? since it
was in the sensational sixties, were you on a "TRIP"?
Msg #26066 Dated 14:34:24 11-22-91 -> 26084
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Hi there Jim!
Well, I received the newsletter form you and thank you very much!
I really appreaciate you sending me the issue but as a grinder one must
allready know the utmost importance of Mr. Acer and Mr. Well's columns.
this was one of the first things i learned as I progressed in magic.
The _dale carnagie_ course helped too, but.......anyway, the magic in
the issue is pretty neat and i cant wait to try out the sweet & low
trick or the wallet one either! I would like to know what other general
intrest articals you have done (the magic alone is great, but what do
you have for filler???) the BOOK REVIEWS were very informative and
right on with MIKE WEBER and "Life Savers". I think he is overrated,
yet a very polished entertainer. The effects he does when he does are
quite astonishing, but he spends too much time in the bathroom!!!!!!
I have not yet purchased the other items mentioned in your reviews but
will use them as reference! Well, I gotta get ready to go grind!!!!! I
am at this restaurant four nights a week and tonight (friday) is very
busy! Oh, by the way.....Here is a question for your panel of experts:
_TIPPING_-If (and you should be) you are getting paid by the restaurant
to entertain their clientel......is it proper to solicite, not
solicite, or not accept tips altogether? (even if they force it on
you?) The reasson is that the management at the establishment where i
do my THANG has asked me to refuse tipe due to the fact that they pay
me to be there?!?!?!?! Is this confuseing or what????
Msg #26067 Dated 15:53:44 11-22-91 26028 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FOOD FOR THOUGHT
You got it... a glass head by any other name is a pill. You got
to come on more often to keep up, dude!!!
Msg #26070 Dated 15:54:01 11-22-91 26035 <--> 26102
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: NEW FILES
I tried to sit off the frame and couldn't get far enuf!!!
Msg #26071 Dated 15:54:04 11-22-91 26039 <--> 26639
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOTKEY
Too late, dude, got my own file, altho I don't know how to use it.
Yep, use Norton Commander to Edit...
Msg #26072 Dated 15:54:07 11-22-91 26042 <--> 26076
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Do you think scotty would like it in a large book? Ring Trilogy?
Tring to makie it biggier...
Msg #26074 Dated 15:54:14 11-22-91 26044 <--> 26077
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Hart is doing great on the film... They can't afford to pay angelica
and Raul (he has been one of my favorite film actors for years) what
they usually get, so they send Hart out to do the TV and stuff.
We just hired him to do our local club banquet... and what do you
think? I just got a job to be out of town that day... argh...
.
Might get the Ford Indy account.. looks 70-percent done. And the
DRIVE magazine job too...foo I won't have any free time...
Msg #26075 Dated 15:54:23 11-22-91 26047 <--> 26105
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: INLOG
Arnaud... are you coming 25 November? I live very close to San
Francisco... call me on phone... local phone just dial 932-7696.
If from out of town my area code and number is 510-932-7696.
I am free most of the time in that time slot... except for middle
of day 28 Nov, as I have meal with my mother that day. OK that
night.
Msg #26076 Dated 15:54:30 11-22-91 26049 <--> 26078
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
He was on the front page of all newspapers... but I think that is
when you were in Italy!
Msg #26077 Dated 15:54:34 11-22-91 26050 <--> 26178
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Hope you didn't believe prior message? Hah.. ;+)
I hope the film does well... reviews don't mean a thing if the fans
buy the tickets...
Msg #26078 Dated 15:54:39 11-22-91 26053 <--> 26114
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I got it, thanks max,,, I type faster than I think some time...
Msg #26079 Dated 15:54:41 11-22-91 26054 <--> 26081
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yeah, lloyd told me about Fox Lake... the Crandall cards had a
funny scrambled one and a nude on one... got em someplace... later
Msg #26080 Dated 15:54:45 11-22-91 26056 <--> 26107
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Have you found Maki Kitami yet? He is hot...
Msg #26081 Dated 15:54:48 11-22-91 26059 <--> 26088
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
I dont' got no data... just a shallow basket scoop... unpopped corn
comes out popped...
Msg #26082 Dated 15:54:51 11-22-91 26062 <--> 26094
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Will leave my hat home when I go to Goodsprings again.... bye
Msg #26083 Dated 15:54:54 11-22-91 26065 <--> 26089
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
I just tripped on my own foot!
Msg #26084 Dated 15:54:57 11-22-91 26066 <--> 26097
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
I don't believe anyone should ever REFUSE a tip. If managment pays
the waiters, do they not keep their tips? If you feel like the pay
isn't enuf, and you need the tips talk to the boss. Or, if you want
to do like Ken Brooke used to do... take the tips but toss into the
tip fund of the waiters and bus boys... MAKE THEM HAPPY AND THEY
WILL GET YOU TONS OF WORK!!!
Msg #26087 Dated 17:27:06 11-22-91 26010 <--> 26134
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I agree! It presents a rather odd view of magic when everyone is doing
the same thing. Lay guests begin to wonder if there isn't anything
else to do!
Msg #26088 Dated 17:50:39 11-22-91 26021 <--> 26131
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thanks for the moral support, Pete. I've gotten a lot of flack for
using bridge cards and it has always seemed to me that it should be up
to the individual mage. Nathan, for example, can't palm even bridge
cards yet, so he does some of his best work with miniatures.
Msg #26089 Dated 17:56:19 11-22-91 25994 <--> 26113
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Indeed, I'm interested in the standing Frog! You know any more about
it?
Msg #26091 Dated 17:59:45 11-22-91 26007 <--> 26092
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I didn't get a chance to tell him. Figured word would get to him if I
mentioned it here.
Msg #26092 Dated 18:00:36 11-22-91 26008 <--> 26117
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
RE: "Nuts to all of you. I am gone." We will miss you, Pete. Will
hold broken wand ceremony over a monitor.
Msg #26093 Dated 18:02:04 11-22-91 26013 <--> 26126
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
Yeah, things been hoppin' here too. Went to meeting for 4 hours this
afternoon. Looks like deal is a "go" but they haven't put their names
on the contract yet and I don't believe anything I can't see on the fax
machine.
Msg #26094 Dated 18:03:18 11-22-91 26012 <--> 26490
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Yeah, Beatty is a bit too civilized. Goldfield is OK. Gotta get back
to that neighborhood soon and air out my mind.
Msg #26095 Dated 18:04:52 11-22-91 26024 <--> 26120
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BAD CRC
It fixes itself, Pete. X-Modem does things like that.
Msg #26096 Dated 18:06:59 11-22-91 26030 <--> 26644
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Standard can of tuna fish - about the same size as the can of worms I
seem to open every morning. But we could do Mounds bars - no problem.
Those I buy by the carton - wholesale.
Msg #26097 Dated 19:46:51 11-22-91 26066 <--> 26122
From: JIM SISTI
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
You asked what other general interest articles we've done, and tipping
was one of the subjects covered. If you enjoy the magazine, you should
consider THE MAGIC MENU - YEAR ONE, which has our first six issues.
Lots of high-impact original magic perfect for restaurant and walk-
around performers and many good philosophy articles. The deal until
the end of the year is $20.00 for the book, $15.00 for a year's
subscription, or $30.00 for both...save $5.00.
Msg #26098 Dated 20:05:32 11-22-91 -> 26142
From: RICHARD ROBINSON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Pete - Regarding Soft Soap...The original presentation including using
the "Magic" milk pitcher to pour milk into the box with the soiled
silks before shaking the box up and revealing that they had been
magically "cleaned". This adds a good deal to the overall effect (and
a reasonably good use for the pitcher). The things that get lost on the
way to the dealers' catalogs are usually the most interesting part of
the effect!
Best, Richard Robinson
Msg #26099 Dated 20:12:26 11-22-91 -> 26179
From: DOUG SMITH
To: ALL
Re: KRESKIN
pacific coast...Kreskin was on TNN program Nashville Now program about
8:40 CST. Did not tape so could not catch the set up on the card
effects.
Msg #26102 Dated 20:21:38 11-22-91 26035 <--> 26143
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: NEW FILES
Gee, I didn't know there were X-Rated GIFs!
Msg #26103 Dated 20:23:32 11-22-91 26036 <--> 26144
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
Uh, yes! We have already decided to exclude DEL, ERASE, and FORMAT
from his education for the present time. FORMAT, of course, can be
easily prevented by removing the format program (an "external" program)
from the disk. In any event, he likes his Amiga better (he's working
on it right now) because it has a synthetic speech program in the
AmigaDOS and after he types his name it will say it.
Msg #26104 Dated 20:29:25 11-22-91 26046 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: LECTURE AGENT
Most interesting! I think your's is the first message routed from the
Netherlands to MAGIC! in Los Angeles to Geno in Japan!
Msg #26105 Dated 20:30:50 11-22-91 26047 <--> 26145
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: INLOG
TO: Tommy Wonder
Tommy - Was just thinking of you this evening! Remembering your doing
Squirmly at the Castle. Yes, your local registration is definitely
active. To read only recent messages, you can take a look at the
"Highest Message On System" line that appears and then use a number
about 100 less in your read request. So, the first time you log on
back here in the States, instead of R;* (or RC;* if you are capturing)
you use R;nnn+ (the letter R followed by a semi-colon [;] followed
by the number of the first message you want to read followed by a PLUS
[+] sign) or for a capture you use RC;nnn (again with a number in
place of nnn but here a plus sign isn't necessary). After that first
time, you will be able to use R;* or RC;* for your later log ons.
Wish you were going to be passing thru Los Angeles. It would be a
delight to see you again. Hope you have a good trip over!
Msg #26107 Dated 20:36:57 11-22-91 26056 <--> 26205
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Have a good trip to Hong Kong, Geno! And keep us informed! Your
reports are terrific!
Msg #26109 Dated 20:48:01 11-22-91 -> 26125
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I am in the air going to Hong Kong, and will have to make this a short
message....But as Don Lawton used to say, "Ho Hi was a Chinaman".
Marvin Stern....thanks again.....
Jerry Burton, you never cease to amaze me.......
Mac King......glad you are back.......
Tabby baby........if they play the Tennessee Waltz again I quit
magic...
David......wait to you see your info.......
And to all.......keep up the great BBS....without this
on the trip and I would be nuts, (more nuts).....
It is like going to the magic shop when you were 10 years old, or
getting Genni in the mail..........I love it.
Msg #26110 Dated 20:53:44 11-22-91 25938 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: CARD CONTROL
I find that very interesting that you like ProContr ol. I have
r=eeceived a comment just as strongly in the negative! I guess it may
be just what some are looking for but not for others. I d-id purchase
the Close-up Illusions book and video so I will be able t o take a look
at t-he swivel cut control you mentioned. Thanks for ths input!
Excuse the line noise, it looks like I do n't know h ow to tyupe!
Msg #26111 Dated 21:04:57 11-22-91 25703 <--> 26112
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
Between our friends at the I.R.S. and other commitments, I have
not had much extra cash for buying books. I am, however, going
through withdrawells, and feel a book buying binge (BBB for
short) coming on.
I'll download the book.txt files tonight.
Thanks!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26112 Dated 21:05:03 11-22-91 25704 <--> 26146
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
I've found that books are like computers. You sit down for "just
a minute," and notice that six hours have gone by.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26113 Dated 21:05:07 11-22-91 25731 <--> 26136
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Pete,
Did you see how the USC grounds keeper decorated the football
infield? Giant letter proclaiming the name of the university:
UCS. (True story)
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26114 Dated 21:05:12 11-22-91 25778 <--> 26127
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Jerry,
I am unfamiliar with "bio-metal." Where would one obtain some?
Thanks!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26115 Dated 21:05:17 11-22-91 25825 <--> 26116
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
"As I am writing this, I am in a jet going back to Tokyo. I
don't know what I would do without one."
Walk?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26116 Dated 21:05:21 11-22-91 25864 <--> 26148
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Wait a minute Pete!
I haven't met Geno yet, and find it a whole lot more likely to
find myself in Vegas than in some remote (to me) corner of the
world. Let's not be selfish now!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26117 Dated 21:05:26 11-22-91 25868 <--> 26118
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
I still have and use my little model 100. Good little computer.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26118 Dated 21:05:31 11-22-91 25902 <--> 26119
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Geno,
I can use a computer like that for a project I'm working on now.
How would one go about procuring one.
Thanks!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26119 Dated 21:05:35 11-22-91 26008 <--> 26124
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
I don't remember seeing a message for us to think of a card, but
ummmmmmmm okay, I've got one.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26120 Dated 21:05:40 11-22-91 26024 <--> 26140
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BAD CRC
Pete,
Whenever you get a BAD CRC message, it means (in all probability)
that something was sent wrong. There are several causes of this,
not that it matters, because the file is usually SCREWED UP.
Frustrating! I don't know anything about the particular program
you are using, so can't suggest what might be wrong.
You might try downloading the file again, or just waiting until
Jerry replies.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26121 Dated 21:05:46 11-22-91 26037 <--> 26649
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Bill,
Frankly, I can't consider myself a good Irishman. I've never had
a drink. (alcoholic drink anyway.) I've been in more bars than
most alcoholics though.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26122 Dated 21:05:51 11-22-91 26097 <--> 26141
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Jim,
Okay, you sold me. Where do I send my money for THE MAGIC MENU?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26123 Dated 21:07:10 11-22-91 -> 26151
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRC
I've been thinking about David's message, and realized we said two
different things. If after you saved the file you downloaded, your
computer tells you that there is a CRC error, then you have a problem.
If during the downloading your computer tells you that there is a CRC
error, and continues to download, then the computer has taken care of
the problem by re-downloading the affected block.
Sorry for any confusion.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26124 Dated 21:12:29 11-22-91 25972 <--> 26128
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Is Bruce do*ing anything different in the close-up room? The last
three times I saw him it was the same act. It's a good act but not one
I would make a special trip to see a fourth time. I saw Christopher
Hart tonight at the movies. At least his h-and anyway in the Addams
Family. I rsally enjoyed the sh ow even thoug-h it has been panned by
a few of t-he critics. Nice special effects and Christopher does a
fine job- r=emembered h*is lines flawlessly!
Msg #26125 Dated 21:27:21 11-22-91 26109 <--> 26158
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
What's the matter with the TN Waltz ?? Geno?? I heard it in Hawaii
done HI style on the HI steel guitar and I LOVED IT!!!
Msg #26126 Dated 21:27:25 11-22-91 26001 <--> 26139
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
Re: Carazini
Wasn't hearing a whole lot good last night, only that he was living
in some holler in Kentucky. He had been working some of the comedy
clubs a few years ago and these guys met him working Zanies in Nash-
ville. Pretty good little comedy club and in biz for almost a decade.
Msg #26127 Dated 21:27:31 11-22-91 26005 <--> 26159
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Yowz!
Msg #26128 Dated 21:27:33 11-22-91 26008 <--> 26137
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Sorry, I haven't been reading general messages, just stuff to me
specifically. What was the question???
Msg #26129 Dated 21:27:36 11-22-91 26045 <--> 26325
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
Well, don't come to Music City without calling!!
Msg #26130 Dated 21:27:39 11-22-91 -> 26817
From: TABBY CRABB
To: TOMMY WONDER (X)
Re: SFO AGAIN
Ee;26047
Good to have you online for a few days from the states. What is the
story of that great photo of you and the "bird."???? Best promo
photo I have seen!!
Msg #26131 Dated 21:27:45 11-22-91 26054 <--> 26133
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
John Snider lived on a farm??? Was this the first Fox Lake address?
Msg #26133 Dated 22:16:03 11-22-91 26131 <--> 26135
From: MAX MAVEN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
I don't know if it was literally a farm, but it was a rural location
with Fox Lake out in back.
Msg #26134 Dated 22:24:25 11-22-91 26087 <--> 26173
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I don't believe they can be so insensitive and not check with each
other to see who is doing what!!!!!!!!!!!
Msg #26135 Dated 22:24:29 11-22-91 26088 <--> 26172
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
You got to do what you want. If 12 other guys are doing the same
trick... you can be the leader by changing. I have enough book
with great stuff in them to fill acre feet of running shelf space,
and all you got to do is take ANY TRICK... and work on it and make
it work for you... and you got good stuff.
.
After all, who is it that just recently said, "the magic needs to
be good, but you have to be better than the magic!..."
Msg #26136 Dated 22:24:38 11-22-91 26089 <--> 26147
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
The standing Frog (actually a theater full of Frogs) are standing
as they applaude my act.
Msg #26137 Dated 22:24:41 11-22-91 26091 <--> 26138
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I heard from Sylvester the Jester today... he said he got some new
good stuff... and will be in the Comedy Challenge in Vegas...
and he said he thought the comments we made here online were great,
and he really appreciated them. I said, "how did you hear about
them?" He said, "Irene Larsen had a printout and gave it to me!"
(From Dante I guess)... heheheheh... the greats all read it first
on MAGIC!
.
iN THAT CASE, I DON'T QUIT... YET...
Msg #26138 Dated 22:24:51 11-22-91 26092 <--> 26149
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Instead of Broken Wand Ceremony for Marlo, I understand they tore
up a deck of cards!
Msg #26139 Dated 22:24:55 11-22-91 26093 <--> 26152
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
YOU SEE CHECKS CLEAR THE BANK ON YOUR FAX MACHINE?
Msg #26140 Dated 22:24:58 11-22-91 26095 <--> 26168
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BAD CRC
I am glad to hear that the "former" or is it "X" modem fixee stuff.
Msg #26141 Dated 22:25:01 11-22-91 26097 <--> 26157
From: PETE BIRO
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
JIm, sign me up,send the stuff with invoice... Pete Biro,
16 Los Banos Ct., Walnut Creek, CA 94598-3101. Hurry before I
change my mind.... arhg...
Msg #26142 Dated 22:25:05 11-22-91 26098 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: RICHARD ROBINSON (X)
Re: MO MOJO!!!!!
Yep, that is a good point to remember aboaut one of the great
tricks, Soft Soap. Boy, I can still remember the kids grabbing
the empty box and ripping it apart to see what was inside it!!!
Heheheheheh....
Msg #26143 Dated 22:25:11 11-22-91 26102 <--> 26174
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NEW FILES
Like X-Modem, they fix themselves?
Msg #26144 Dated 22:25:14 11-22-91 26103 <--> 26175
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
Did you tell them that before I got there his name was being
pronounced WRONG by the comuter and when you type NAYTHAN, instead
of NATHAN, the voice figures it out? No. Foooo
Msg #26145 Dated 22:25:18 11-22-91 26105 <--> 26176
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: INLOG
Now I am confused. Is it Tommy or Arnaud stopping in San Francisco?
Either way, call me...
Msg #26146 Dated 22:25:22 11-22-91 26111 <--> 26350
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
The IRS just killed me on a cash out of my insurance... Argh...
with penalties, etc. is nearly 40-percent to the Fed Govt... cheesh
Msg #26147 Dated 22:25:26 11-22-91 26113 <--> 26156
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
I can believe. When you are working to such large scale you do not
see the actual image, and can get lost out there...
Msg #26148 Dated 22:25:29 11-22-91 26115 <--> 26351
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Swim... plane fly over water to Tokyo... Joke: Pilot say, "In case
of emergency your seat cushions become flotation devices."
.... I can see it now... the plane is sinking to the bottom of the
lake and the seat cushions are floating up to the ceiling.... argh..
OR.....
"IF they are that clever why don't they make a plane that becomes
a flotation device.... a boat!"
Msg #26149 Dated 22:25:38 11-22-91 26117 <--> 26150
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Tandy 100 and 200 sit on my shelf... use them for fun every once
in awhile... good stuff.
Msg #26150 Dated 22:25:41 11-22-91 26119 <--> 26153
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
It was either the four of hearts or clubs, or the Queen of Hearts.
Tell the truth now!
Msg #26151 Dated 22:25:45 11-22-91 26123 <--> 26170
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CRC
Thanks for the confusion... duh.... I think it be ok....
Msg #26152 Dated 22:25:47 11-22-91 26126 <--> 26171
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
YO, check the other forum for a secret message!
Msg #26153 Dated 22:25:50 11-22-91 26128 <--> 26163
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
Dern if I know... you gots to read it all dude... some good stuff
hittin on these days... unless you is busy... hey, will have some
PAY for you by end of the year for the Vegas 500 shoot.
Msg #26156 Dated 23:11:48 11-22-91 26083 <--> 26162
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
i did that too! but in clown shoes its a little easier!
Msg #26157 Dated 23:12:43 11-22-91 26084 <--> 26191
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
not in hayward!!!!! It seem the management did this to promote a
"positive family dining experience" their words. the servers do not
pool their tips and sometimes the person will insist to give me the tip
i tell them to tell the management thet they enjoied my schtick and
then they will be back. did the schuliens take tips?
It difficult to refuse a tip, most people take it as an insult....what
do you think?
Msg #26158 Dated 23:18:46 11-22-91 26109 <--> 26161
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
OHIO GENO! |-> just saw more adverts for your products, boy are you
making a loud shout at the magic profession....gambeling is your
specialty, i guess it would be in vegas....cool....but anyway.....I
hope that you are taking plenty of pictures and can have them scanned
to .GIF files.
Msg #26159 Dated 23:27:41 11-22-91 26004 <--> 26160
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I moved to NYC after USAF time, in 1958; I'd met Persi while passing
through back in 1955.
Msg #26160 Dated 23:31:13 11-22-91 26053 <--> 26192
From: T A WATERS
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Max -- maybe Pete meant Honorable...
Msg #26161 Dated 0:12:54 11-23-91 26109 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Hey, Geno, stayin' in touch is what it is all about. You're up in the
jet to Hong Kong, Tommy Wonder is getting ready to head for the U.S.
and then on to Japan, and I don't want to say too much yet, but we just
logged a new member calling in from New Zealand. Together, across a
lot of latitude and longitude, we make MAGIC!
Msg #26162 Dated 0:16:30 11-23-91 26136 <--> 26381
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Yeah, and the ones with Ph.D.'s (especially from UCS, er, USC) are
Phrogs.
Msg #26163 Dated 0:18:19 11-23-91 26117 <--> 26164
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Kevin -
You aren't alone - I too still have and use my Model 100. Wish I'd
gotten the extra memory chips for my Olivetti M-10, almost the same
machine buy sleeker looking. And I still have my Sinclair (note: Not
the later Timex/Sinclair), but I don't use it much.
Msg #26164 Dated 0:19:46 11-23-91 26118 <--> 26165
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Geno is going to get the info back to me (about the palmtop computers)
when he returns. We'll get the info translated into English and post
it here.
Msg #26165 Dated 0:21:07 11-23-91 26124 <--> 26166
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: JAPAN
Bruce did pretty much the usual, but was good for my lay visitors.
Same with Ogden. I guess Christopher Hart is pretty happy that the
movie people don't believe that "parts is parts."
Msg #26166 Dated 0:22:37 11-23-91 26137 <--> 26167
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yep! (RE: Sylvester getting printout from Irene getting printout from
Dante). I don't think there is anyone who is anyone who isn't somehow
"looped in" to MAGIC! But you are right, sometimes it takes a
circuitious route. Abbott's got their fax of the MAGIC! review the
next day, from a guy in Belgium!
Msg #26167 Dated 0:24:25 11-23-91 26150 <--> 26189
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
PETE -
You are on to something here! (RE: "Pick a card"). While Geno is in
the Orient, we have got to figure out how to use MAGIC! and MAGIC-NL
and Geno to do a GLOBAL CARD TRICK. Yeah, it has been done from space
(picture is here in MAGIC! files). But we MUST figure out a way to do
a terrestrial version! I ain't smart enough to figure out how, but
maybe you or someone can. The only "rule" is that the trick has to be
"genuine" and has to involve Geno while he is still in Orient and
someone (Arnaud? Tommy Wonder?) via MAGIC-NL in the Netherlands. Got
any ideas?????
Msg #26168 Dated 0:27:47 11-23-91 26120 <--> 26169
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: BAD CRC
Kevin -
If you are using X-Modem, Y-Modem, Z-Modem or any of the other error
checking/correcting protocols (almost anything but ASCII transfer), a
"Bad CRC" or anything else during a file transfer MEANS NOTHING. The
transfer protocol will simply resend the bad block. Only if the
problem is so bad that the file simply can't be transfered (line noise
that blocks seven successive attempts, for example) will the transfer
be terminated. Otherwise, all it means is "some line noise hit, but
the block has been transfered properly again."
There are circumstances in which a "bad CRC" means something, but it is
NOT during a file transfer. So even if you see such a message, if you
have the file complete it is OK.
Msg #26169 Dated 0:31:19 11-23-91 26140 <--> 26195
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BAD CRC
Yep, the "Bad CRC" in your file transfer meant nothing. XModem took
care of it. The only reason it told you is because techys like to know
stuff like that.
Msg #26170 Dated 0:32:48 11-23-91 26123 <--> 26354
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CRC
Yep, Kevin, now you got it right (I posted my previous message about
CRC checks before I saw your correction).
Msg #26171 Dated 0:33:53 11-23-91 26139 <--> 26196
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
I can see contract signatures on the fax machine. elieve me, checks
from these guys would be good! They are an S&L!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (They really are an S&L) - Hmmmm..... Maybe I'd
better sweat until the check clears!
Msg #26172 Dated 0:35:58 11-23-91 26135 <--> 26197
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I try to do different stuff. But I also make changes to published
stuff with a degree of care. I assume that in the case of really good
stuff (Mike Close's Workers/Max's stuff) the published version has been
honed and really thought out and so you have to make the changes as
good as the "original." You have to get "inside" the trick and totally
understand it before you can really make changes that will make it good
AND make it your own.
Msg #26173 Dated 0:41:11 11-23-91 26134 <--> 26388
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Well, this week at the Castle, no-body checked with no-body. So much
stuff in common that after a while it looked like an audition where the
rule was that you had to do something exactly the way some other guy
did it. People have complained about this before, but I think this
week was almost an all-time record.
Msg #26174 Dated 0:42:55 11-23-91 26143 <--> 26647
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NEW FILES
You can use X-Modem to transfer X-rated GIFs. Of course, after you've
seen the first hundred or so, you begin to use _Y_-Modem.
Msg #26175 Dated 0:43:57 11-23-91 26144 <--> 26358
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
No, I didn't mention that! We type NAYTHAN, your way, for him. But we
want him to learn to spell it right before he gets creative with it.
He can now recognize and use about 20 of the 26 letters and all of the
numbers. Not bad, but he is so intrigued with the computer bit that he
is ignoring his magic rehersals.
Msg #26176 Dated 0:45:43 11-23-91 26145 <--> 26198
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: INLOG
It is Tommy who is stopping in San Francisco.
Msg #26177 Dated 0:48:37 11-23-91 -> 26199
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Max -
In Message #26167 I've made the suggestion that while Geno is in the
Orient that we find a way to do a "global card trick" linking Geno,
MAGIC! and MAGIC-NL. I'd really appreciate any suggestions/help you
could offer in making this happen. Thanks!
Msg #26178 Dated 0:58:18 11-23-91 26077 <--> 26200
From: EVAN KATZ
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Yeah. But my intuition is that it will open huge, then taper off from
bad word of mouth, to top off at 40-45 million, which will not be
enough to make it an unqualified success. Watch, it'll be the BATMAN
of the season.
Msg #26179 Dated 1:00:10 11-23-91 26099 <--> 26181
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: KRESKIN
Watched it. What did you think? I only stayed with it for the deck
effects, don't know if he used the books. He sure smiles a lot,
doesn't he?
Msg #26181 Dated 4:22:12 11-23-91 26179 <--> 26201
From: DOUG SMITH
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: KRESKIN
i did not see Kreskin use the books, but he may have as we were channel
hopping with Disney about Mark Twain. I always enjoy watching someone
who is successful. It wasinteresting to see how he ended with Ralph
E to get his answer in the correct pocket. I wonder if Kreskin is
really barred in LV, seems like it would bea good ploy on his part.
Do you have an opinion on the act or Kreskin in general.
Msg #26185 Dated 5:08:29 11-23-91 -> 26202
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: REPLY
Pete,
.
Sorry for my delayed reply on some of your message but I was in
Belgium for the benefit of the IQ level of both countries.
.
First as you must have understood I am, unfortunately, not coming
to the US, Tommy Wonder is the lucky one. Speaking about visiting
the US and Japan, Tommy told me that travelling to Japan from
Holland is just as cheap/expensive whether you fly directly to
Japan from Holland or take a 'little' detour via the US.
Certainly an attractive option for the FISM visit in 1994.
Maybe we could link a dutch/european cheapo-but-goodo with your
cheapo-but-goodo.
.
About the Ross Coins. I've never heard of those coins, but will
ask Richard next week when I see him. Are you sure you are not
talking about the FISM 88 coins. Those coins, specially made for
FISM 88 in The Hague, were produced with faces from Fred Kaps and
Okito. Maybe nice to know that based on those coins the dutch
Magic Dealer 'Monnikendam's Magic World' has recently released
a special set of trick coins, coin boxes, based on those Kaps and
Okito boxes (little sales talk....).
.
About the Kaps tapes. The 2 efforts I took to contact dutch TV
producers were without result. Lots of the material that is from
the old days has been erased. We also had in the late 60's a fire
in a TV studion complex that is the cause many black/white shows
are not obtainable anymore.
However a few weeks ago I was informed that someone saw a Kaps
recording with a friend that might be interesting. Will see Dick
Koornwinder next tuesday will check on him for his results.
.
For the project it might be interesting to have some interviews
with some of his old dutch friends. If I can be of help with that
please let me know. I will be able to interview Bob Driebeek, Dick
Harris and anyone else you might want to be taped. We can discuss
the subject at a later date. For this it would be better to arrange
good quality camera's. Please check with Joe.
Msg #26186 Dated 5:17:33 11-23-91
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIP
MAGIC!-NL Sat 23 Nov 91 02:18
Tommy Wonder posted the following msg:
From: Tommy Wonder
To: Pete Biro
subject: divers
Hello Pete,
Do I understand that you will organise a tour for FISM to go to
Japan? This woyuld be good, because I think a lot of people from
Europe would like to combine the trip with may be a stop in Vegas
and the Magic Castle. Also, for contestants with a lot of luggage
it is much, I mean MUCH cheaper to fly via the states. Direct
flights from Europe to Japan charge the luggage by the kilo! In
my own case that would cost with the cheapest flight around
$6000. If I fly through the states, the luggage is charged per
bag and also I had a ticket to Japan bought in the US where prices
for tickets are a lot cheaper. Now the whole trip costs me,
including overweight $ 1900. So I am saving more than $4000 by
doing it this way! You can see, that it would be very interesting
for people with luggage, and you should be able to get a lot of
magicians from Europe interested in your tour. But even for
people without overweight, it is a little cheaper to fly via the
states, provided that the part of the trip from the US to Japan
is bought in the states.
I really hope that you or someone else will organise such a
thing, and that the possibilitie to have Europeans profit from it
is not overlooked! ---
* Origin: MAGIC!-NL, Home of the wizards, +31-23-388725 (0:0/0)
---
Msg #26187 Dated 5:18:03 11-23-91
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: TOKYO
MAGIC!-NL Sat 23 Nov 91 02:20
Tommy Wonder posted the following msg:
Good to hear that you will be at the Tenkai Party, look forward
to meeting you. Where are you on the 7th? Because then I will
still be in Japan, in Nagoya. On the 8th I go to Tokyo, to fly
back on the 9th. See you!
---
* Origin: MAGIC!-NL, Home of the wizards, +31-23-388725 (0:0/0)
---
Msg #26188 Dated 6:35:49 11-23-91 -> 26217
From: MICHAEL AMMAR
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
Hi Geno! I'll be flying in to Tokyo myself on December 3rd for a
little over two weeks. Will you still be around that long? I thought
you were going to return by the end of November, but it would be
wonderful to see you or Tommy Wonder while in Japan. It's strange, but
I see more of my friends in foreign countries than at home!
Best of luck with the rest of your trip - I've really enjoyed the
updates you've been providing!
Msg #26189 Dated 6:44:50 11-23-91 26007 <--> 26190
From: MICHAEL AMMAR
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete - I think that is brilliant!
Msg #26190 Dated 8:24:37 11-23-91 26007 <--> 26193
From: PETE BIRO
To: PETE BIRO
Re: AS AN ASIDE - WHEN DOING
in it as a "suggestion".... hheheheheeh
Msg #26191 Dated 8:25:13 11-23-91 26157 <--> 26216
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Actually you MUST BE POLITE. If you turn someone down, or if you
have to... just say something like, "Oh, thank you, but your tip
was your enjoyment and reaction to the magic! -- besides that, the
waiters will be jealous... Thanks anyway!"
.
As an aside - when doing close up at a convention - a couple of
times I used to put out a little sign that read, "YOUR TIPS ARE MY
PAY".... Never got one!
.
When I was a kid working putting skates on customers at a roller
rink, we used to put a little tray in sight with some money already
in it as a "suggestion".... hheheheheeh
Msg #26192 Dated 8:25:25 11-23-91 26160 <--> 26266
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I'm sure i meant HONORABLE. What was the question?
Msg #26193 Dated 8:25:28 11-23-91 26166 <--> 26194
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Have you writ Bordner about the Abbott review of Magic? er MAGIC!?
Msg #26194 Dated 8:25:31 11-23-91 26167 <--> 26203
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
You ask me when Max is available? ARgh...
Msg #26195 Dated 8:25:33 11-23-91 26169 <--> 26229
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BAD CRC
Being a "new wave" techie (one who knows nothing but knows who to
ask) I am glad to know whatever the CRC is as or wuz...
Msg #26196 Dated 8:25:37 11-23-91 26171 <--> 26210
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
Tell 'em to send a courier with cash...
Msg #26197 Dated 8:25:40 11-23-91 26172 <--> 26208
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
You don't really need to change a trick, but you need to change
tricks... if you get what I mean?
Msg #26198 Dated 8:25:43 11-23-91 26176 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: INLOG
Yeah, i figgered it out.... will undoubtedly break bread with him.
Msg #26199 Dated 8:25:46 11-23-91 26177 <--> 26227
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Gee, Dave... you read my message before I even posted it. Have you
told Burton you can do this?
Msg #26200 Dated 8:25:49 11-23-91 26178 <--> 26408
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Well, maybe it will do good enough to make its souvinirs the hot
Halloween item next season.
Msg #26201 Dated 8:25:53 11-23-91 26181 <--> 26236
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: KRESKIN
Let me butt in... Kreskin is very successful, very commercial, and
when I saw him do a concert live at a University... he got three
standing ovations on the evening. One for his "Q" Hypnotic act!!!!
Msg #26202 Dated 8:25:58 11-23-91 26185 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: REPLY
Many thanks for your reply. I figured that it WAS Tommy after I
re-read things... I will see if my friend has the coins confused.
But he DID mention Richard Ross. I think somewhere I have some of
the FISM coins. I think Norm Nielsen was selling these at Lausanne.
.
Will speak with Joe soon.
Msg #26203 Dated 8:26:05 11-23-91 26189 <--> 26209
From: PETE BIRO
To: MICHAEL AMMAR (X)
Re: JAPAN
Now I got to go back thru my old messages to see what you liked.
Msg #26205 Dated 8:58:57 11-23-91 26107 <--> 26206
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
One JAL airlines there is no question that he service and staff are
beyondthe call of first class......they really are, but the only
drawback ismthe smoking problem....I have a seat in first class
but the problem os they let the row behind me smoke....this makes the
entire flight uncormfortable.......I never complain, except for this
inconvenience.....I am sorry for the smokers that I may offend, but
what can I do as passenger..... a smoker can stop smoking, a
passenger has no choice.....
I just realized that you could duplicate a person's signature with
a pair of chop sticks........#1 to trace the handwriting, # 2 to
write.....
or...........with chop sticks........do the ring on wand.......
via chop sticks......
By the way Tabby, I guess that I will have to quit magic someday.
You will not believe it........and I swear on everything holy,
unholy, my son, my mom, apple pie and the girl back home.....the
firdt song on the system was the T. Waltz.......so help me GOD!
No joke and no lie............what do I do now?
Mentalism....yea, that's it.....
Msg #26206 Dated 8:59:29 11-23-91 26107 <--> 26214
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I have arrived in Hong Kong and I am at Hotel Victoria, the number
here is 5-407228, FAX 5-476912, room 3822.
This my first time here and this is really different from Japan.
It is late at night so I really don't have a good idea about the
city.....I will report in the morning.....talk to you all later.
Msg #26207 Dated 8:59:42 11-23-91 -> 26233
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: HONG KONG
Anyone have the names of the President of the local IBM ring here
in Hong Kong?
Thank you.
Msg #26208 Dated 9:23:51 11-23-91 26133 <--> 26230
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
The rural life!!! I love it, though I must admit I wooden mind
having a small apartment off Park Ave for a solo hideaway at times
or an apartment at the magic hotel. A smash away!!!
Msg #26209 Dated 9:23:55 11-23-91 26137 <--> 26211
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Damn! I had just about decided to blow off the DMS and work the
Winter Carnival in Gatlinburg, TN and now you tell the frog that the
jester is gonna be there and he has some new stuff. Damn!! I'm gonna
have to go back to just reading my own mail again.
Msg #26210 Dated 9:24:00 11-23-91 26152 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SMOKED CAVAZINI
Got yo call. Checked!
Msg #26211 Dated 9:24:03 11-23-91 26153 <--> 26218
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
PAY for the Vegas 500?? But I worked the Gold Coast 300!! But, I know
whatcha mean. The important thing is did you use any of my snaps??
Msg #26214 Dated 9:24:20 11-23-91 26205 <--> 26222
From: TABBY CRABB
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I was waltzing with my darlin and the tune they were playing was the
beautiful
Tennessee
Waltz.
You just haven't heard Connie Smith's version from the 60s yet. I'll
have the Music City Conclave Band learn it just for YOU!!!
Msg #26215 Dated 9:38:53 11-23-91 -> 26224
From: WAYNE SKENES
To: ALL
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Can anyone tell me where I can find some information on the "Muscle
Pass"? I looked in Bobo's, and I didn't see it.
Thanks.
Msg #26216 Dated 9:54:40 11-23-91 26191 <--> 26225
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
When I would tie Balloons at the wharf I would put out a sign ststing
donations accepted-suggested donation= $1,365,876.25 that got a laugh
from the people who could read engrish!!!! But in a restaurant a sign
like that could be considered tacky. Many years ago, When ABB DICKSON
lived in Hollywood, he told me to (in order to get MORE tips) to give
the waitress a 5 dollar bill, and when i am at a table have here return
the money to me and say "this is from the people over there" to
intimidate and iniatiate the customer into tipping. Since you are so
close, when you gonna visit the eatrie i work at? last night some old
man came in and started saying he saw sen. crandel and still has a
goshman wooden nickel! you want a copy of the vid. with that oscar
winning actor TONY GEORGIO?
Msg #26217 Dated 10:20:32 11-23-91 26188 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN
GENO -
IF YOU CAN LINK UP WITH TOMMY WONDER AND MICHAEL AMMAR YOU CAN HOST THE
FIRST MAGIC! MEETING IN JAPAN! MAYBE ALSO INVITE SOME OF THE LOCAL
MAGI AND GET THEM INTERESTED IN THE GLOBAL MAGIC!/MAGIC-NL CONNECTION!
Msg #26218 Dated 10:22:08 11-23-91 26193 <--> 26219
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Yep! I thought I told you. We talked on the phone (Gregg Bordner and
I) and all is OK. Thanks for your help!
Msg #26219 Dated 10:28:38 11-23-91 26218 <--> 26220
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I don't remember the call, but if you say so.... is word! Hey I just
acquired 2, count 'em, 2 SONY B&W TV CAMERAS WITH MANY LENSES... HOW DO
I MAKE PCX? Or is it tuff? I can make low budget movies now... hahah
.
Mojo training films? Sure...
Msg #26220 Dated 10:29:59 11-23-91 26211 <--> 26228
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
OK -- I got the name wrong... dunno if they used one or not... had
to put into "joint" pile... much good stuff. The Ford guy liked
the "going away in the dust" pix best of all!!!
Msg #26222 Dated 10:30:07 11-23-91 26214 <--> 26223
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Band? We gonna have a band? Ho ho...
Msg #26223 Dated 10:30:09 11-23-91 26214 <--> 26231
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Oh, I know, Mike Close is the band... aha...
Msg #26224 Dated 10:30:12 11-23-91 26215 <--> 26250
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE SKENES (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
It wasn't around in Bobo's writin' time... it is a creation of
the recent era. Sorry, I don't know where it is in print. Am sure
Maven will know.
Msg #26225 Dated 10:30:17 11-23-91 26216 <--> 26238
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Scott, what kind of vid is there on Tony Giorgio? Magic or bits
from his acting? Yeah, I got to get out to see you one of these
nights. I lost the message with your location. Can you repost for
me? Simple routing would be appreciated, like exit of xx freeway?
..
Tommy Wonder is due in area in a day or two, maybe we can all come?
Msg #26227 Dated 11:39:44 11-23-91 26199 <--> 26241
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
RE: "You read my message before I even posted it. Have you told Burton
you can do this?"
Burton is tutoring me in the ways of the Bizarre. I'm almost ready to
consult with him about selecting a crystal.
Msg #26228 Dated 11:43:02 11-23-91 26219 <--> 26240
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Making PCX requires some way to feed the camera output into the
computer. You need a video board (a computer card with a video input
and some signal processing stuff on it). There are some cheap ones and
there are some good ones.
Msg #26229 Dated 11:45:44 11-23-91 26195 <--> 26243
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BAD CRC
CRC stands for "Cyclical Redundancy Check" (or something very much like
that, I'm in a hurry). When you are downloading or uploading a file,
XModem and some of the other protocols perform a test on each "block"
(128 bytes in the case of XModem, 1024 bytes in the case of YModem,
etc.) to figure out if the block got transfered OK. If the CRC doesn't
come out right, then the receiving computer tells the sending computer
to send the block again.
Msg #26230 Dated 11:51:35 11-23-91 26197 <--> 26244
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
RE: "You don't really need to change a trick, but you need to change
tricks... if you get what I mean?"
Yeah, I get what you mean. That doesn't always mean that I agree, just
that I have comprehended what you wrote.
Msg #26231 Dated 11:53:25 11-23-91 26205 <--> 26232
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I don't want to start a thread on smoking vs. non-smoking, but the
problem on airplanes is NOT the smokers, it is the changes that they
made in the air conditioning systems when they became more "fuel
efficient." Smoking is not the problem (assuming smokers and
non-smokers are segregated by rows, etc. rather than sitting right next
to each other), it is actually the visible/noticable sign of the
problem. Banning smoking on planes, rather than fixing the problem
(which has dramatically increased your chances of getting real
contagious diseases while on planes - there are solid studies that show
this) is a lot like killing the canary so that the miners won't know
the air is bad.
Msg #26232 Dated 11:57:26 11-23-91 26206 <--> 26246
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I've heard that the Hotel Victoria in Hong Kong is a nice place! Have
a great time!
Msg #26233 Dated 12:06:43 11-23-91 26207 <--> 26235
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
I can't find my list, but I will keep looking for President of Hong
Kong IBM.
Msg #26235 Dated 12:22:57 11-23-91 26207 <--> 26237
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
The info I have is that the President (possibly last year's President)
of the Hong Kong IBM is/was Bernard Mariano, 42 Granville Rd. 4th Floor
Flat C, Kowloon. Don't know of a SAM Chapter in Hong Kong.
Msg #26236 Dated 13:17:03 11-23-91 26201 <--> 26269
From: DOUG SMITH
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: KRESKIN
Kreskin was fun to watch as he had Ralph emery take two cards from a
deck that emery held behind his back(the top two cards) and then have
emery put a card in each of the front pockets of the jacket. K told RE
what the two cards were but emery was to predict as towhich pocket they
were in. Well, RE chose the wrong pockets and it was fun asto how K
got the right connections partly by playing on RE responses.
Msg #26237 Dated 13:20:49 11-23-91 26207 <-
From: DOUG SMITH
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
The ring 277 has not sent any ring reports for a number of months.
Matter offact I could find nonee. If You need furthur names there a
number of new applicants from Hong Kong, you might try
Chan Hon Keung...Kowloon Harry Kar-Yee Wong, Hong Lok Yven HK....
Albert Tam Wing Cheun, North Point, HK....Hope your day has a few
smiles
Msg #26238 Dated 14:21:50 11-23-91 26225 <--> 26245
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
OK directions to carlitas
880 fwy off at winton ave *west* go 1 block turn left, it's right
there. And I work there thurs fri sat & sunday! let me know before you
arrive so i can have a pitcher of Margueritas waiting!
Msg #26240 Dated 16:45:11 11-23-91 26203 <--> 26242
From: MICHAEL AMMAR
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Hee-hee....
Msg #26241 Dated 17:14:24 11-23-91 26227 <--> 26249
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
When I came off the freeway today onto my boulevard... there were
signs "Psychic Faire" posted... the last one had an arrow pointing
up a drive... to a dry cleaner. Hmmmm?
.
I was afrait to turn up the drive....
Msg #26242 Dated 17:14:30 11-23-91 26228 <--> 26248
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thass what I thought... argh... Cheap and Good? No.
Msg #26243 Dated 17:14:33 11-23-91 26229 <--> 26650
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BAD CRC
OK ( prounounced like Jim Healey... whom I dearly miss )
Msg #26244 Dated 17:14:36 11-23-91 26230 <--> 26389
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
OK
Msg #26245 Dated 17:14:38 11-23-91 26238 <--> 26252
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Thanks Scott. Don't know Tommy Wonder's schedule... be in touch...
Msg #26246 Dated 17:20:23 11-23-91 26056 <--> 26261
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Yes, Carson lifted a lot of material from Gleason and many others, too.
Carnac, however, is not one of them. Carnac was lifted from Steve
Allen, who used to do a bit called "The Question Man."
'W.
Msg #26248 Dated 17:33:48 11-23-91 26242 <--> 26352
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Well, there is a thing called ComputerEyes that is about as cheap as
they get, and it really ain't that bad. But talk to David "The Other
One" VanVranken - he knows what the good stuff is and he knows the
prices, etc. P.S. - with the video card AND a fax card, you can do
video to fax.
Msg #26249 Dated 17:35:24 11-23-91 26241 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
You should have checked out the Psychic Faire. But it was probably a
phoney - the real psychics don't need the signs!
Msg #26250 Dated 17:28:51 11-23-91 26215 <--> 26251
From: STAN LAKE
To: WAYNE SKENES (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Michael Ammar's Classic Renditions Video on "The Floating Bill and John
Cornelius' Coin That Falls Up" should have the info on the muscle pass.
It's on my Christmas wish list so I haven't seen it yet but maybe
someone else on here has seen it. I think Pete knows the book it was
written up in. It's not a very extensive write up from what I
remember. I've been practicing for months now and I can still only get
it to pop sideways six or eight inches. I have noticed the practice
has dramatically improved my palming technique with coins so it has
been well worth the time spent. As a matter of fact, T.C. Tahoe is the
one who recommended to me that I practice making the coin pop out of my
palm just for the purpose of improving the strength of my palm muscles.
Msg #26251 Dated 17:37:04 11-23-91 26250 <--> 26254
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
I hope you do find the Michael Ammar Classic Renditions video in your
Xmas Stocking - it is GOOOOD.
Msg #26252 Dated 21:35:42 11-23-91 26122 <--> 26253
From: JIM SISTI
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
The address for THE MAGIC MENU is: 40 Noe Place, A-8, Beacon Falls, CT.
06403. Thanks for the interest, Kevin!
Msg #26253 Dated 21:37:35 11-23-91 26141 <--> 26268
From: JIM SISTI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Thanks for the support, Pete. The stuff will be on the way first thing
Monday...invoice will follow later. Thanks again!
Msg #26254 Dated 21:38:43 11-23-91 26215 <--> 26257
From: JIM SISTI
To: WAYNE SKENES (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
John Cornelius has an entire teach-in session on the muscle pass as
part of Michael Ammar's Classic Renditions video series. It's in
Volume One. Michael also teaches the Floating Bill, which is actually
the focus of the tape. The entire thing is EXCELLENT...
Msg #26256 Dated 22:51:41 11-23-91 25796 <--> 26259
From: JACK TAVES
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MICKEY MOUSE MAGICIAN
I'M LOOKING FOR THE ONE MADE IN 1955 I BELIEVE IT WAS MADE BUY
DURHAM'S BUT NOT SURE. I OFFER $500.00 FOR IT IF IT'D S IT ALL
THERE INCLUDEING INSTRUCTIONS. LET me know what you think
i have Micky 1976 from durhams.
Msg #26257 Dated 23:32:25 11-23-91 26250 <--> 26258
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
If you ever get the chance to see Pat Page (from London) -- who we
have booked for the IBM in Salt Lake City... ask him to show you
how he can hold his hands flat with fingers and thumb stretched out
and still palm a DIME!!!!
Msg #26258 Dated 23:32:31 11-23-91 26251 <--> 26270
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
You will need a VCR in the other stocking!
Msg #26259 Dated 23:32:34 11-23-91 26256 <--> 26361
From: PETE BIRO
To: JACK TAVES (X)
Re: MICKEY MOUSE MAGICIAN
It is a Durham Mickey, but not all there and no instructions...
in actual fact, I kinda like it up on my display as it sits...
Will see if Byron Walker has one or two??? Or what... he usually
like to swap things... will be in touch.
Msg #26261 Dated 23:33:49 11-23-91 26246 <--> 26264
From: GENO MUNARI
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Maybe he did, but I saw Gleason do a Carnack character on an old re-r
un, with same style mystical hat and tone voice inflections...have
you seen him do that biT?
Msg #26262 Dated 23:33:59 11-23-91 -> 26273
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: HONG KONG
Well isn't this an interesting city....you can be next to the most
modern skyscrapper, and just steps away, you are in a meat or fish
market, with ox tails, heads and ribs hanging in front of you.
The buildings here are incredible, the view from my room, fantastic.
I am overlooking the ferry to Macau....we just returned and I perform
ed for one of the owners of a casino, Stanley Ho.....Mr. Juiceman of
Hong Kong......in otherwords the Chinese Maha-off, if you know what I
mean......interesting to say the least....he especially liked
second dealing effects and three card monte.....I also used the belt
swindle....he went for it hook, line and sinker.
We went over in the hover craft and back in his yacht to the Royal
Hong Kong Yacht Club.....wowie........makes Balboa look sick.....
They say about 90% of the people here practice the ancient art of sha
dow boxing......ta'i chi ch'uan.....and a real important part of
their daily routine.....at four in the morning the men and women, old
and young gather in Victoria Park.......The calm circles they draw i
n the air remind me of a leaf's path as it floats in the wind. But
when do they sleep?......
Central- no name could be more apt....Here is the true heart of Hong
Kong....financial center.....business hub......everything is here.
Each day a building gets demolished and a new one goes up......it
is a living cell..........unbelievable........
Each blcok in the city is a city within itself....each section has
a theater, restaurants, companies and markets......much like 7-11's.
There is this one building, much like the Hyatt Hotels, from within y
ou see floors and floors of tiny Buddhas....This is called the
Temple of 10,000 Buddhas......
Msg #26263 Dated 23:34:44 11-23-91 -> 26275
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Still can't find a magician in Hong Kong.....all te listings
are out of date....HELP PLEASE! IBM WHERE ARE YOU?
Msg #26264 Dated 23:34:54 11-23-91 26232 <--> 26272
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
David....just found out that there is a great HP Palm Top.....
wait to you see this......
Msg #26265 Dated 23:35:02 11-23-91 -> 26277
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
E
ALL
GLOBAL TRICK
David...I will use all of my God given mind, what I have left that is
to try a special GLOBAL CARD TRICK........I will use ESP, and( a
little BS) to make this miracle of the east work.......but there
is only one special request...as I am looking into the sun and the
sun dial in the court of Yue Hwa...I realize that I only can
perform this effect at 11:18 am.........at that point the sun is
perfect, and my mind will be clear of Chinese wine.......
Here we go........Shuffle your deck
1. Remove six cards...from these six, select one and deal the remaind
er of the deck into two face down heaps on the table, a card to each
in rotation.........
2. Put your chosen card in either heap, and the remaining cards (5)
on the same heap, or the other, whichever you prefer........
3. At the noted time that I decided to do the effect it was 11:18.
4. Add 11 to 18 and you get 29....your card is the 29th position fro
m the top.`
Msg #26266 Dated 0:11:17 11-24-91 26192 <--> 26308
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Why you were using H. as Yamamoto's initial...
Msg #26268 Dated 0:21:47 11-24-91 26216 <--> 26286
From: T A WATERS
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Way back when, Dr. Jaks discussed the problem of tipping; he told me
that, as there is no set protocol for that situation, customers don't
know whether they are supposed to tip or not. He always used a table
card WITH A PRICE STATED ON IT. Note: this price would be an odd
number (say $7.50 back then) and the spectators would almost always
give the next higher bill, a $10. This way there was no confusion,
everyone knew what the situation was, and when he went to a table it
was because he had been requested -- there was no active solicitation
of business. Jaks was, of course, quite successful as a close-up
worker.
Msg #26269 Dated 0:29:57 11-24-91 26236 <--> 26396
From: T A WATERS
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: KRESKIN
The two-card thing you describe Kreskin performing was featured by Chan
Canasta back in the 1950's -- exact procedure, method and presentation
was identical.
Msg #26270 Dated 0:32:41 11-24-91 26215 <--> 26271
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: WAYNE SKENES (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Wayne,
Welcome back! Haven't heard from you in a while, thought we lost
you.
I'm not sure what book the muscle pass is in, but you might want
to check out Mike Ammar's "Classic Renditions Vol 1" video. Along
with Michael's handling of the floating bill, John Cornelius
demonstrates how to accomplish the muscle pass. He calls it "The
coin that falls up". In this case, seeing instead of reading it
is preferred as it seems to be more of a knack, and is probably
hard to describe in writing. For about $35. the video's well
worth it.
Oh yeah, if you get Genii, look back just a month or two. I
remember someone writing a description recently.
I just found it! October 1991 issue on page 811. It's called "A
Big Knack Attack" by Keith Niemeier from Denver, Co. He says he
learned it from a Cornelius lecture. He says the starting
position is similar to a classic palm, but is pressed deeper into
the palm. From what I've seen, he might mean higher up on the
thumb, as the coin seems to "catch" on the thumb knuckle which
causes the necessary spring action.
Hope this helps,
David (the other one)
Msg #26271 Dated 0:55:39 11-24-91 26258 <--> 26300
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Uh, I assumed that Stan had a VCR. Doesn't everyone?
Msg #26272 Dated 0:57:23 11-24-91 26264 <--> 26274
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I haven't kept up with the palm top market, but it sounds like I
should! Palm top would probably be perfect for me when on the road.
Especially if someone like Sony has given consideration to using a
hotel television set as a monitor! THANKS for the info!
Msg #26273 Dated 0:59:44 11-24-91 26262 <--> 26304
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
Sounds like you are certainly getting an interesting view of Hong Kong,
Geno! Hanging around with the heavies, etc.! Fantastic!
Msg #26274 Dated 0:58:23 11-24-91 26261 <--> 26287
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Carson stole the vocal placement and inflection from Gleason, no doubt.
The CONCEPT for Carnac was Steve Allen's.
Carson's liberal "borrowing" was truly notorious.
Even the "Mighty Carson Art Players" can be traced back to the "Mighty
Allen Art Players"....although, this time, the Allen who was "borrowed"
from was Fred, not Steve.
'W.
Msg #26275 Dated 1:00:52 11-24-91 26263 <--> 26289
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
When do you head out of Hong Kong? Best bet for current info would be
BILL WELLS, but he usually doesn't check in until Monday or Tuesday.
He usually isn't online on weekends. Have you tried the yellow pages
under magi?
Msg #26276 Dated 1:19:21 11-24-91 -> 26285
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: DOVE IN JAPAN....
Dove in Japan
MAGIC!-NL Sun 24 Nov 91 00:23
Arnaud Van.Rietschoten posted the following msg:
How did you get your dove into Japan?? In Lausanne we heard it's
very hard to get an animal into Japan. Even our queen Beatrix did
not manage to get her little doggy into Japan during her last
Royal visit a few weeks ago. I still think a dove lease company
in Tokyo would be a profitable enterprise for the next FISM.
---
* Origin: MAGIC!-NL, Home of the wizards, +31-23-388725 (0:0/0)
---
Msg #26277 Dated 1:19:12 11-24-91 26265 <--> 26307
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
OK, I conducted your experiment at 5:18 p.m. your time and it worked!
Now will pass the identity of my selected card on to a neutral party
here on MAGIC! Let's see if you can figure out the card!
Meanwhile, we need to get ARNAUD to do the same and to let us know when
he has done it. We're going for a record here!
Msg #26279 Dated 1:25:11 11-24-91 -> 26317
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Scott -
If you don't mind, I'm hereby picking you as the "neutral third party"
for the Global Card Trick. My next message to you will be private and
will contain the identity of the card that I selected.
Msg #26281 Dated 1:30:03 11-24-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Arnaud -
Drat! I think I just missed you here by seconds! But when you read
this message, try Geno's card trick. Then, when you have selected a
card, let Geno know that you have done so. Meanwhile, send a PRIVATE
message to SCOTT ALCALAY with the identity of the card.
Msg #26282 Dated 1:39:35 11-24-91
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARDTRICK
Geno,
.
You won't believe it at 10:18 local time here in Holland I started to
do this effect and at 10:19 local Dutch time I started counting and
came exactly at my chosen card. INCREDIBLE!!!!
I think will have another try with it tonight around 20:08.....
.
In the meantime that chosen card lays here on top on my MAGIC!-NL
mainframe and now it's up to you to reveal it's identity.
.
I have another card experiment for you I will upload tonight. Prepare
yourself with some more jogging....you will need it!!!!
.
Groetjes,
Arnaud
Msg #26285 Dated 1:57:41 11-24-91 26276 <--> 26290
From: MAX MAVEN
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: DOVE IN JAPAN....
In fact it is very easy to get doves into Japan, so long as you have
prepared the necessary paperwork. Other animals, however, are almost
impossible to bring into the country.
Msg #26286 Dated 1:55:24 11-24-91 26268 <--> 26309
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Hey Now T A! Is known fact that tipping is a touchy subject. The
late/great Dr. Jaks, probibly had a better set of employers and the
year was right! now I would consider it tacky to post a table card at
a family restaurant, that would more than likely offend the customer
into not signaling me to work their table. as it turns out, i do do
over 30.00 in a 3 hour period! It could be (and has been) better for
someone who does not solicit tips. thanks for your info!
p.s. would you ask Mr. Maven to respond to my letter regarding his
artical in M A G I C? Im sure he read it here. _SCOTT_
Msg #26287 Dated 2:01:27 11-24-91 26272 <--> 26288
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I will `have everything in order for you....you will love this info.
Msg #26288 Dated 2:01:34 11-24-91 26274 <--> 26293
From: GENO MUNARI
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Don't you just love Steverino???????
Msg #26289 Dated 2:01:41 11-24-91 26275 <--> 26294
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Tried everyone.....So this tells me if an American, or whatever,
wanted to do magic in this city...it iks wide open.......
Msg #26290 Dated 2:01:49 11-24-91 26276 <--> 26315
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: DOVE IN JAPAN....
It is called being sneaky....actually Ton Onasaka rented me a dove
and I returned it.....but what tariffs for travelling within Japan..
....almost $60 one way foer the dove to the North, where I performed.
.........And the dove complained...he wanted first class....
By the way when I get back, I will figure out what video I can send y
ou.......
Geno Munari...PS what is the number and dialing instructions from
here for me to log on
Msg #26291 Dated 2:02:06 11-24-91 -> 26295
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
YOU will select the five of hearts..............all day long.
Msg #26293 Dated 2:08:59 11-24-91 26287 <--> 26303
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
We've just had a really amazing set of coincidences here! In the last
hour, you, Scott, and Arnaud have logged on! And I'm still up too! I
haven't been able to compare the logons with the messages, so I don't
yet know who knows what, but it is almost spooky. Bofore I log off,
I'm going to check and see who was on at the same time!
Msg #26294 Dated 2:11:05 11-24-91 26289 <--> 26305
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Hmmm... I wonder if one can busk in Hong Kong?
Msg #26295 Dated 2:11:34 11-24-91 26291 <--> 26321
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
GENO - I'M FRIED! I'm sitting here LOOKING AT THE FIVE OF HEARTS!
UNREAL! I gotta talk to Burton about that crystal! But your message
is to "All" - does that mean that Arnaud has the five of hearts too?
Msg #26296 Dated 2:13:25 11-24-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Here's the record - there was only one overlap of about 24 seconds
between you and Scott. Arnaud logged off at 1:45:56 and you logged on
at 1:46:35. You were off at 1:48:43 and Scott logged on at 1:51:04.
Then you logged back on at 2:01:09 and Scott logged off at 2:01:33.
Msg #26298 Dated 2:16:52 11-24-91 -> 26322
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: HONG KONG
This is truly a neat place to be.....but I really miss being around
magicians.....but I know I will find some soon....
I am looking forward to the Tenkai Party....this will be a lot of fun
...Michael Ammar, Tommy Wonder, et al, looking forward to seeing you.
THIS IS SPECIAL TO JOE STEVENS: TON ONASAKA SHOULD BE ELECTED, OR
APPOINTED AS SPECIAL ENVOY TO THE FAR EAST......
Geno Munari
Msg #26299 Dated 2:26:46 11-24-91 -> 26326
From: BRUCE GRAHAM
To: ALL
Re: ROTARIANS IN MAGIC
Is there any members of the Fellowshipship of Rotarian Magicians
writting to Magic!? These are people who are members of Rotary
International and a recognised Magicians group/organisation. I`d like
to hear from you.
Msg #26300 Dated 7:23:29 11-24-91 26257 <--> 26310
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Does Pat Page have tiny little suckers on his palm to hold a dime?
I never thought it would be necessary to hold my hand perfectly flat
with fingers outstretched while palming a coin but I did see T.C. Tahoe
do a terrific coins across routine where he was standing behind a table
and sort of leaning forward with his fingertips on the table. It was
one of the best uses of the "flat handed" palm I have ever seen. He
would flick the coins around on the table top with his finger tips and
no one would believe he could have one palmed. That's when I REALLY
started working on my own technique.
Msg #26303 Dated 9:36:51 11-24-91 26261 <--> 26306
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I believe the big floppy turban goes back to Milo and Roger...
I do recall Gleason doing something as well. Remember, magician
Snag Werris was one of the "Great One's" writers!
Msg #26304 Dated 9:36:56 11-24-91 26262 <--> 26340
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
You might ask their gus that are "connected" if they know the guy
in Macau that owns a couple of casinos and "ahem" Bordellos... He
is a good friend of mine... TEDDY YIP. I think he also owns the
Hover Crafts (but not sure if they are the ones to Macau/Hong Kong
or Singapore.
I was doing some card magic at a dinner party one time, Yip
was there. He grabbed the cards away from me and started to do the
3 Card Monte... and was TAKING HIS FRIENDS MONEY... for real. I
didn't say a word, just sat there amazed ... then a waiter came
over and said, "Sorry NO CARDS ALLOWED"... so the Yip takes off his
belt and keeps taking their money with the Loop!!!! Wild guy. He is
gettin on in years now and is living in Phoenix for the dry climate
these days.
One guy you want on your side for sure in any dealing! He used
to run a couple of cars (very big time money) at the Indy 500 and
was a financial backer of a buddy of mine in a racing team.
Yip loves fast cars and like women. He once rented the entire
Queen Mary in Long Beach and threw a party for 3,000 of his closest
friends. I was working that night and missed it.
I saw him six months later at a race and he came up to me and
said, "Why weren't you at my party?"
On his 70th birthday he threw a party for every woman in the
world he had ever spent time with! He flew them all to Macau! Boy
the ladies must have had some wild stories to tell.
He always flew with a jar of white lightnin' (Chinese rice wine)
in his case. We were at Indianapolis one time and he ran out of
T-Shirts to give to friends, and his right-hand-man, Ronald, was
standing there... Yip looked at him and said, "Go to my house right
now and get two more cases of T-Shirts!"
He had to fly from Indianapolis to Hong Kong, grab the two
cases and jump right back on a plane and bring them to Indy. Teddy
didn't trust shipping companies or people out of his sight!
One reason the kid (he was about 20 at the time) would do any
thing Teddy wanted without question was Teddy was paying all his
expenses and sending him to USC to study engineering. Today he is
an engineer on a very successful racing team... Toyota!!!!
Msg #26305 Dated 9:37:31 11-24-91 26263 <--> 26314
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Geno, there must be a magic shop or joke store in Hong Kong? Huh?
Msg #26306 Dated 9:37:34 11-24-91 26264 <--> 26312
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
When you say "wait til you see this" does that mean you are bringing
it back? How much and what do it do? Do it do word processing and
have a Modem and sell for $300.00 or less? (I'm easy to please)
.
How much are 9600 baud modems on HK?
Msg #26307 Dated 9:37:41 11-24-91 26265 <--> 26316
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Nice try Geno... but when it was 11:18 there it was 54:94 here and
the numbers don't add up. Was it the 4 of Clubs?
.
I put a global card trick on last week and NOBODY RESPONDED (until
about a week later, someone felt sorry for me!)
Msg #26308 Dated 9:37:48 11-24-91 26266 <--> 26382
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Just for the "H" of it... OK, I will use K from now on... duh...
Msg #26309 Dated 9:37:51 11-24-91 26268 <--> 26359
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
I sat at the bar one time while a well-known bar magician was
on duty. A big-time looking guy with a couple of friends rolled in
and sat down. The guy seemed to know the Magi and kept hinting to
see a trick. Finally the guy put a $20 bill on the bar. Still no
magic. Finally the guy got tired of waiting, picked up the 20 and
they left.
I said to my friend, "Gee they wanted to see some magic and he
even put 20 bucks down...." His reply? "Twenty wasn't enough!"
Msg #26310 Dated 9:38:00 11-24-91 26270 <--> 26311
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Gee, David... I didn't look that carefully at your hands when we
met, but how do you do things with a Knuckle on the inside of your
palm? I think if you check it is just the fleshy "big thumb
muscle" that you "spring" the coin up, up and away, with.
Msg #26311 Dated 9:38:06 11-24-91 26271 <--> 26323
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
I got mine back and the guy fixed the rewind... but the "eject" does
not always work. So he said, "Easy workaround... just take the four
screws off, uncover the works and push on this little thingee right
here" -- "Thingee" must be some techie word I don't know... :+)
Anyway... I had to do it last night, but while I had the cover
off I found that there was a small hatch on top of the unit that
you lifted to "tune" individual channels... and... the clever dude
that I is... noted a small opening (1/16-inch) between the cover
and the lid... where the hinge comes up throgh.... Heheheheheheh...
a little ALUMINUM rod I have will fit thru the hole... and IT WORKS.
Isn't technology wonderful!
Msg #26312 Dated 9:38:18 11-24-91 26272 <--> 26313
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Why do you need a TV Set Monitor... all you Psychics are good at
reading PALMS.... aren't you? !
.
Best one liner of the month candidate?
Msg #26313 Dated 9:38:24 11-24-91 26274 <--> 26318
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Yes indeeeeeed... a trip through Allen's Alley is one that will
never be forgotten.
.
How many of you new to the earth dudes know that the incredible Fred
Allen nearly wrote ALL OF HIS MATERIAL... and, like W.C. Fields was
a vaudeville Juggler?
.
Have a great bookjacket of Allen showing him juggling!
.
I used to juggle, where did I go wrong?
Msg #26314 Dated 9:38:35 11-24-91 26275 <--> 26319
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Gee, I thought someone posted a long list of mage from Hong Kong
the other day?
.
If you get to Singapore, check with Tan Hock Chuan, 50 Berwick Dr.,
Singapore, 1195.
Msg #26315 Dated 9:38:42 11-24-91 26276 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: DOVE IN JAPAN....
Dove Lease! I love it... although I would prefer (at some conventions
to use the Japanese method and OUTLAW THEM!)
.
There is a great story about Shimada and bringing his doves into
the USA... They MUST go into quarantine for a long period of time.
And as you know, doves are trained and learn to do the correct
things in the act... and if you have them for some time they become
good friends.
.
So, Shimada showed up at the Quarantine and said, "I have to see
my doves and give them their SPECIAL food." They said OK, and in
he went. HE SWITCHED THE TRAINED DOVES FOR SOME STUPID ONES, taking
his pets home with him... and nobody there caught on!
Msg #26316 Dated 9:38:56 11-24-91 26277 <--> 26332
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
You leaving out New Zealand?
Msg #26317 Dated 9:38:59 11-24-91 26279 <--> 26333
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
My spies tell me it was the four of hearts.
Msg #26318 Dated 9:39:02 11-24-91 26288 <--> 26320
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Hi Ho Steverino.... Allen had the second greatest cast of characters
surrounding him in TV history. Who was first? IMHO = Sid Ceasar on
"Show of Shows"... Radio? Fred Allen or Jack Benny? Too close to
call...
.
Although Jack Kirkwood's Madhouse Little Theater contained a very
funny group of nutballs! Morey Amsterdam and Dagmar being 3. ;+)
Msg #26319 Dated 9:39:11 11-24-91 26289 <--> 26331
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Maybe there are no magicians in Hong Kong because the people have
BANISHED them all to another land for stealing material and being
trite.
Msg #26320 Dated 9:39:15 11-24-91 26293 <--> 26330
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I guess I forgot... I see you were on at 2:08:59. I think I was on
at 2:08:99 ;+)
Msg #26321 Dated 9:39:19 11-24-91 26295 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
You guys got to quit doing false shuffles with those Aronson stacks.
Msg #26322 Dated 9:39:22 11-24-91 26298 <--> 26346
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
I have PRINTED message NO. 26298, re Ton Onasaka and FAXED it to
Big Bad Joe Stevens! The ball is in his court.
Msg #26323 Dated 9:39:26 11-24-91 26300 <--> 26329
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Pat does a routine involving the use of the palm and a spectator's
outstretched hands... can't figure out where the coins come from.
I saw him do this a number of times, but did not take notes on it
or try to reconstruct the sequences... after all, it is 'HIS'
routine... He will be at Salt Lake City IBM, July 1-2-3-4, 1992.
Msg #26324 Dated 9:39:33 11-24-91 -> 26334
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: FLASH!!!!
Ee;26300
YOU READ IT HERE FIRST.... Tom Mullica has left France and the
lucrative contract he could have kept going at the Crazy Horse
Saloon... and is about to open a TOMFOOLERY in Las Vegas... the
originally rumored fincancial backer is not involved... Tommy did
not want a partner and has worked out a deal where he will not
need the backing!
.
He has been there for a couple of weeks working on this and looks
to be going back to Nevada to finalise things in about a week.
.
Let's hope this all works out for him. The site is near the Hacienda
and Tropicana... It will be in a brand new place and the bar will
be designed by Tommy himself!
.
Keep this to oursleves... let the "magazines" find out on thier
own this time!
Msg #26325 Dated 10:15:21 11-24-91 26129 <--> 26401
From: MIKE KING
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
No problem.
Msg #26326 Dated 10:47:57 11-24-91 26299 <--> 26861
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: BRUCE GRAHAM (X)
Re: ROTARIANS IN MAGIC
no i am not in rotery, but i do go to their functions.
Msg #26327 Dated 11:27:49 11-24-91 -> 26335
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: YECCH
Cheers to Geno, jeers to David L. I know this
shouldn't become a thread (we should stick to magic),
but have to comment that you are dead wrong on the
smoking thing, whether it is on airplanes or in any
public place. Smokers -- and I realize you are one --
have NO IDEA what they, and their children, clothing,
hair, pets, etc. smell like. Whether or not they are
smoking at the moment. I know I can't convince you.
The only way a smoker will ever know is to stop smoking
for a year or so to relearn what fresh oxygen and
nitrogen smell like. We were discussing this at home
yesterday (because my daughter had just come home from
a babysitting job and reeked; the mother was a smoker).
My father-in-law, who eventually stopped because of a
serious lung scare, has become a real crusader against
the habit -- not for health reasons, but because of
how offensive it is. "Why did you ever let me?" he
says. But when he was smoking, of course, there was no
talking to him about it. Sure, better air conditioning
helps, but not enough; the only way to solve the
problem is to eliminate the cause, not to try to mask
it. Sorry to drone on about this; I don't want it to
come between us. Both my parents still smoke, and
several of my friends do, and I love them all. But I
sure hate their habit.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #26328 Dated 11:28:38 11-24-91 -> 26336
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: ALL
Re: HART IS THE THING
Amazed to read that there were some so-so reviews of
"The Addams Family." So far, I've seen only two
reviews, NEWSWEEK's ("They're Spookier and Ookier") and
PRODIGY's (4 stars, a rarely given highest rating), and
both were positive. I caught the movie myself opening
night and adored it. Great actors, great lines, a
terrific haunted house, and true to the spirit of the
original Chas Addams cartoons -- what more could one
want? The magical special effects involving Chris
Hart's right hand were excellent, but, for me, the
delightfully evil child Wednesday stole the show. I
should confess that I am a longtime Addams fan, and one
of the real plusses of the movie is that it drew on
numerous original cartoons rather than drawing on the
old TV series. It's like watching a bunch of the
cartoons come to life, especially those from a
collection called MONSTER RALLY. Indeed, the movie
opens with the famous cartoon of the Family pouring
boiling oil on a group of Christmas carolers. Some
years ago I was fortunate to purchase a signed (by
Addams) print of this cartoon, and it remains one of my
proudest possessions. I now look forward to owning a
copy of this movie. Definitely a must see if you are
into the spookier side of magic.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #26329 Dated 11:28:58 11-24-91 26311 <--> 26399
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Just make sure the little aluminum rod doesn't come in contact with a
wire or two! Yeah, technology is grand. I opened my VCR once and took
a look inside. I closed it back up and took it to the repair shop!
Msg #26330 Dated 11:32:07 11-24-91 26312 <--> 26339
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
ARGH! (tm - Biro) - RE: "All you Psychics are good at reading PALMS,
aren't you?"
Yeah! A definite candidate for one liner of the month. But we don't
have a one liner of the month award for two reasons - 1) I don't want
to encourage them, and, 2) you'd win it on all the even months and T A
would win it on all the ODD ones.
Msg #26331 Dated 11:37:01 11-24-91 26314 <--> 26341
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Yes, there were a few names of Hong Kong magi posted, but evidently
they have moved or something.
Msg #26332 Dated 11:41:15 11-24-91 26307 <--> 26337
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Uh, er, Pete -- RE: "Was it the 4 of Clubs." - HOLD THAT THOUGHT!
There is truly somethin' spooky goin' on here.
Also, YES, you are right - I didn't mention the guy in New Zealand
because I don't think he has caught up with the Global Card Trick yet,
BUT YOU ARE RIGHT - he WAS ALSO LOGGED ON LAST NIGHT, within minutes of
the whole event!!!!!
Msg #26333 Dated 11:45:19 11-24-91 26317 <--> 26439
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
RE: "My spies tell me it was the four of hearts." - You are lost and
confused, Biro-san. Take two asprin, go lie down, and you will feel
better in the morning.
Msg #26334 Dated 11:47:05 11-24-91 26324 <--> 26370
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FLASH!!!!
Wow!, Pete! Thanks for the news flash on Tom Mullica! It will be good
to have him back in the states, although I was looking forward to
seeing him in Paris.
Msg #26335 Dated 11:49:20 11-24-91 26327 <--> 26380
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: YECCH
I don't want to see this become a thread. Let's stick to magic.
Msg #26336 Dated 11:50:31 11-24-91 26328 <--> 26404
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Thanks for the review of The Addams family, Steve. It does sound good.
It sounds like you have a pretty good collection of the stuff. There's
one I've been wanting to see again, but, believe it or not, now that
I'm trying to think of it, it won't come to me!
Msg #26337 Dated 11:53:48 11-24-91 26316 <--> 26369
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Bruce Graham, our new member in New Zealand, logged on last night,
within 3 minutes of when Geno logged off from Hong Kong (I think you've
already seen the previous message about the frantic international
traffic last night).
Note: This is RE: "You leaving out New Zealand?"
Msg #26339 Dated 12:33:31 11-24-91 26303 <--> 26342
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
The doorman here is a Indian, or Pakistani, he wears a neat
Turban.....jophers and high boots...great outfit for a mentalist..
Msg #26340 Dated 12:33:40 11-24-91 26304 <--> 26440
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HONG KONG
I will ask Mr. Ho about him, but maybe he "broad tossed" in and
around Stanley's joint....When I dealt baccarat years ago, these
guys would come to the table with 50,000 minum US credit, everyone wo
uld would sit until the leader, or senior man decides to make a bet.
He puts his wager down, and whop, everyone bets. Anywhere from $4,000
to $8,000 per hand, per player.
One time I was called in on a scam at the Dunes...some chinese
ripped off the baccarat game.....method used was flashing the cards
after they were dealt..........then the players bet....the place was
destroyed. We had it on video........long story as to the layers
of involvement......big Idonesian plyer DADI DARMA, knew all of them.
This guy bet $50,000 a hand all day long......in bundles of new $100
bills that were stapled together, so he couldn't rmove any bills.
........Many crossroaders are trained in Hong Kong in special scams.
One very good gaff is bending the Aces in a blackjack game. Then when
the dealer gives you the cards to cut, you cut above the bend. This
will bring an ace to the first, second, third, fourth, fifth seat. T
he player hopes he can getthat extra 1/2 bet with a blackjack....
Talk to you later.....still looking for popcorn.
Msg #26341 Dated 12:34:13 11-24-91 26305 <--> 26343
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
Michael Ammar just gave me a location...I will check it out.
Msg #26342 Dated 12:34:20 11-24-91 26306 <--> 26344
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
I will check this out today.....computer stores were closed Sunday.
Msg #26343 Dated 12:34:27 11-24-91 26314 <--> 26345
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
I tried every name on the list.....no tickee. But I got a number fro
m Ammar today.
Msg #26344 Dated 12:34:35 11-24-91 26318 <--> 26373
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
You cvan trust the man, the man who wears the star.....Texaco, Texaco
star.......StarChief Theatre, with Uncle Miltie? Does that sound rig
ht?
Msg #26345 Dated 12:34:45 11-24-91 26319 <--> 26652
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HONG KONG MAGICIANS
I am learning a new chines acrobatic umbrella/silk/candle/chicken/
rice bowl act, with two chinese assistants.....I will send to
Genii for news from around the world..There is also a bit of mentalis
im in the act, billed as the great One Hung Lo,...El Magnetico.
Msg #26346 Dated 12:34:57 11-24-91 26322 <-
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HONG KONG
Good .....Onasaka is a great guy....
Msg #26347 Dated 12:54:40 11-24-91 -> 26363
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: ALL
Re: COPPERFIELD
Hey all!
I took the bike into the Los Angeles area yesterday, and gave the
nice people lots of money. So now we officially have bought our
tickets! Yay! We have 25 people who are attending.
I want to thank everyone who is going for the great cooperation.
I couldn't have done this without it.
Now all we have to do is figure out how we are going to recognize
each other at the Wiltern.
Does anybody need directions? Any problems. I'm told that there
is an open parking lot next to the theatre for vans and such.
(When I went into Los Angeles to see "La Miserables" I took my
van, and found nothing but enclosed parking. It was a good thing
we were there an hour early!)
If there are any questions, I will do my darndest to answer them.
See you Sunday!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26349 Dated 14:09:07 11-24-91 -> 26441
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: ALL
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
re: I.R.S. Yeah, I've got to start running a country so I can
have an I.R.S.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26350 Dated 14:09:17 11-24-91 26146 <-
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
re: I.R.S. Yeah, I've got to start running a country so I can
have an I.R.S.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26351 Dated 14:09:22 11-24-91 26148 <-
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Better yet, a plane that doesn't have emergencies.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26352 Dated 14:09:26 11-24-91 26150 <--> 26353
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Actually, it was the Ace of Spades. But, you remind me of a
story. (Oh god! Not another one.) When I was a wee lad of about
4, I read a "Tumbleweeds" cartoon where one of the characters
asked another to pick a card. The card chosen, the first
character said, "Queen of Hearts" The other one said "Nope."
Well, to a 4 year-old kid, this was the height of comedy. So I
went to my brother with a deck of cards and said "Pick a card."
He did, and I said "Queen of Hearts." He looked at me amazed,
and said "How did you do that?!?" I just smiled and walked away.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26353 Dated 14:09:34 11-24-91 26149 <--> 26355
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
I have a couple of IBMs, a Macintosh, an Atari 1040ST, a Kaypro
CPM machine, a Timex Sinclair, an old IBM system 9 mini, and of
couse my model 100. I never got a 200, because it looked like
the major advance was the larger screen. I've got a disk/video
interface for the 100 though. There, wasn't that interesting?
I have a friend who has been running a BBS continuously for 10
years on his old COCO computer. Tandy, believe it or not, has
made some pretty good computers.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26354 Dated 14:09:41 11-24-91 26151 <--> 26357
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRC
Pete,
Sorry about that chief.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26355 Dated 14:09:46 11-24-91 26163 <--> 26356
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
David,
I went down to buy an Olivetti before I got my Model 100, but
they were sold out, and refused to sell the demo model.
Compuserve has a model 100 area, with downloadable programs and
such. If you are interested, I can give you my account # and
password and you can check it out.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26356 Dated 14:09:52 11-24-91 26164 <--> 26364
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
GREAT! I will be interested in seeing the little sucker's
capabilities.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26357 Dated 14:09:57 11-24-91 26170 <-
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRC
David,
Yeah, after I realized what had happened, I knew I'd better post
that message fast before the wrath of the Frogman came down upon
me. Sorry for the extra confusion.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26358 Dated 14:10:02 11-24-91 26175 <--> 26366
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
David,
Can you use any of the computer-magic tricks with Nathan?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26359 Dated 14:10:06 11-24-91 26252 <--> 26378
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: JIM SISTI (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Jim,
Thanks for the info, and expect my check soon.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #26361 Dated 14:44:54 11-24-91 26259 <--> 26443
From: JACK TAVES
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MICKEY MOUSE MAGICIAN
I FOUND OUT THAT THE 1955 MICKEY LOOKS MORE LIKE STEAM BOAT WILLY
THAN THE MODERN DAY MICKEY. BUT HE IS DOING MAGIC WITH A TOP HAT, THE
SAME AS THE 1975 MODEL.
Msg #26363 Dated 15:06:30 11-24-91 26347 <--> 26379
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
GREAT!, Kevin! I'm really looking forward to this!!! Some of the
original MAGIC! members have Charter Member buttons - If they wear
them, you'll be able to spot them. THanks, Thanks, Thanks!
Msg #26364 Dated 15:09:17 11-24-91 26353 <--> 26365
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
I have a CoCo with disk drives and I also have the disk/video interface
for the Model 100. That disk/video interface is fairly rare! No IBM
System 9 in my garage - just a Honeywell 6-33!!! (Oh, yeah, and a
Xerox 820-II).
Msg #26365 Dated 15:14:28 11-24-91 26355 <--> 26391
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thanks, I know about the Model 100 area on CIS - have gotten a few
things there in the past. The Olivetti is nice - sleek looking - but
I've never really used it because I never got the memory expansion (I
don't believe it is exactly the same as the Model 100), it doesn't have
a built in modem, and the internal addresses are all different.
Msg #26366 Dated 15:16:27 11-24-91 26358 <--> 26367
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I haven't shown Nathan any of the computer magic tricks yet. Nor is he
registered to MAGIC! But he showed me a trick of his own today - he
completely started his Amiga from switching on the switches to
inserting the proper diskettes at the right time thru moving thru three
layers of point and double click menus to get to the speech program!
For a guy who is 3 years and two months old and who has to stand on a
chair to reach the diskette drives, that's magic!
Msg #26367 Dated 15:23:34 11-24-91 26366 <--> 26446
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
By the way, after Nathan got his Amiga up and running and into the
speech program, he asked me how to make it say "DAVID COPPERFIELD." I
told him the letters and he found them on the keyboard (with NO help)
and keyed them in!
Msg #26369 Dated 15:42:48 11-24-91 26307 <--> 26438
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Try this time.....and do the same effect 4:25 PST PM, and your card w
ill be the 29th card...........OK, so there!
Directly out of Hugard's Ency. og Card Magic, an effect by Jordon..
However if you use Greenwich Mean Time it makes no difference as
long as you specify GMT.
Msg #26370 Dated 15:43:00 11-24-91 26324 <--> 26377
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FLASH!!!!
Great, now a place to hang out in.......Where is he going to build
it......there is also another place in town going up by a couple of l
ocal magicians, Frank ZAk???? Keith Merril????
Las Vegas is getting a little saturated with Magicians though, more
working here tha anywhere I know........
Msg #26371 Dated 15:43:11 11-24-91 -> 26374
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: HONG KONG MARKET PLACE
Michael Ammar would have been proud of me. If you want to get
some attention, just stop in the Central MArket and do the floating
Hong Kong bill.......the whole place just stopped and then they
started buzzing......Now I can imagine what is was like to be a
priest or Witch Doctor........He who had the tricks ruled the
kingdom........
Still can't sleep good.....you should hear this. I have on my
Sony running radio, and they are playing "Cherry Pink and Apple
Blossom White......with a female singing in Chinese....Homsum
hom se de Tua........da da da dada da daaaaaaa......with a cha,
cha cha, on the end I swear.......Any minute and a Chinese
Xavier Cugat will appear, which reminds me, of a little gig
I did for Charo. I did a coin effect for her son, it was his birthday
, and the magic words were Coochie Coochie..........and speaking of
Chinese look a likes such as Rolex etc., she always introduced
notables, celebs in her show, but she had a guy that was a dead
ringer for Burt Reynolds. And these were the days when you did
not hear much about look a likes.....she said,"We have a special
friend in the audience,...stand up and take a bow...."
The audience would swear it was Burt.....
I think the seaweed is getting to me because this correspondent is
rambling......
Msg #26373 Dated 15:52:32 11-24-91 26288 <--> 26375
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Hi-Ho!
'W.
Msg #26374 Dated 15:53:15 11-24-91 26371 <--> 26575
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG MARKET PLACE
Very interesting stuff! Keep it comin', Geno!
Msg #26375 Dated 15:53:03 11-24-91 26313 <--> 26574
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN-HONG KONG
Fred's failure to make a successful transition to television has always
saddened me. How much richer television history would be if Fred Allen
could have been a significant player.
'W.
Msg #26377 Dated 15:56:31 11-24-91 26324 <--> 26400
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FLASH!!!!
Great news, Pete. I'm looking forward to it. When is the opening
scheduled for?
'W.
Msg #26378 Dated 19:13:33 11-24-91 26286 <--> 26394
From: T A WATERS
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
I am curious as to why you think a table card stating a fee would be
offensive. You are there as a pro to do a job; they can choose to have
you perform for them or not. What some people might consider offensive
is a performer who simply comes up to them unasked and starts
performing, hoping for a tip. I don't know how you handle your tip
situation -- but there ARE other point of view. In Jaks case he was
not getting paid by the restaurant OR working for tips; he was working
for a fee, as most people in most professions do.
As to Maven -- you're on your own hook there; I have enough trouble
getting him to take my advice about card tricks...
Msg #26379 Dated 19:25:00 11-24-91 26347 <--> 26405
From: STAN LAKE
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
I didn't write down the time of the Copperfield show. When is it and
do we plan on eating before or after or has that been decided upon?
Msg #26380 Dated 19:29:33 11-24-91 26327 <--> 26403
From: T A WATERS
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: YECCH
Ah, well -- you may have some habits THEY hate. So it goes.
Msg #26381 Dated 19:34:26 11-24-91 25906 <--> 26410
From: CY KELLER
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
I do not think there was ever a lecture or TV done by Del Ray. I
do know of someone who I understand has an audio of his act. This
is so tight I don't even want to mention who.
.
The first time I saw Del Ray was in the 40's or 50's when he was
an assistant to Blackstone SR. All were impressed with his Okito
Box Routine.
Msg #26382 Dated 19:34:37 11-24-91 26005 <--> 26383
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Grant had a ring item printed many years ago. It was a method for
the ring in nest of boxes, or whatever.
.
Invite a spectator to the stage. Go to the rear of the audience
and borrow a ring. When returning to the stage switch the ring
for a duplicate of the one in the nest of boxes. Show the
duplicate to the spectator on stage to identify. Vanish said ring
and thn reproduce from nest of boxes and have ring identified.
Switch back to spectator's ring while going back to the rear of
the audience.
Msg #26383 Dated 19:34:52 11-24-91 26016 <--> 26384
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Steve Spill used the ring on champagne glass at the conclusion of
the Himber Rings at the Brook Farm Inn of Magic in Bethesda MD.
in the 80's
Msg #26384 Dated 19:35:00 11-24-91 26016 <--> 26386
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I've heard it mentioned, perhaps on MAGIC! that the Vernon
Routine was originally Cardini's, or at least some of the moves
were. Incidentally, unlike the Cups and Balls, the ring routine
was _not_ in the Dai Vernon Book of Magic.
Msg #26385 Dated 19:35:08 11-24-91 26019 <--> 26453
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
I have never seen you lecture, so my notes must be illegitimate.
They are good, however.
Msg #26386 Dated 19:35:00 11-24-91 26049 <--> 26387
From: JERRY BURTON
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
You are right I am a critical & rational observer. I have been
investigating the 'New Age' for the past year and have been attending
psychic fairs all over the place. Most of the stuff is very subjectiv
e and easily dismissed. I must admit that I went to this workshop
expecting to see some hand waving and missed attempts or even out
right trickery.
.
My working hypothesis right now is that somehow this guy has figured
out a way to make ordinary silverware take on the characteristics of
the bio-wire I demonstrated. Bio-wire is temperature sensitive and
changes its basic structure depending on its temperature. If there
was some way to treat metal so that when you held it in your hands
, your body would heat the metal and allow the metal to bend. As it
cools down it would get hard again. The only problem with this theory
is that the temperature range is too narrow. It's quite a puzzle !
.
As for being on the front page of every newspaper, I don't think so.
The press and public seem to take metal-bending as a given and hence
not all that news worthy.
Msg #26387 Dated 19:35:15 11-24-91 26114 <--> 26450
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Bio-metal is made by a company in Irvine by the name of Dynalloy.
They have sample kits for sale. When an electric current is applied
the metal shrinks about 4 % of its length, with appropriate linkage
you can increase the effect significantly. I'm working on several
magic effects using the principle.
Msg #26388 Dated 19:35:15 11-24-91 26051 <--> 26406
From: CY KELLER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Quite correct on the Hokusai. I didn'd have my copy of the
Mitchener Magnus when I wrote the note. In checking I found that
he had 100 views in a notebook, 36 in the colored prints.
Msg #26389 Dated 19:35:22 11-24-91 26052 <--> 26643
From: CY KELLER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Jerry Andrus mentioned in a lecture that he had an argument with
Vernon on the Golden rectangle and insisted that the Bridge cards
were closer to a Golden Rectangle than Poker. I think I checked
this at the time and Andrus was correct.
Msg #26390 Dated 19:35:19 11-24-91 26006 <--> 26454
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
In the script file there is a reference to the number in the dialing
directory. The dialing directory is what you see when you do a Alt-
D. The msg should have read 'Then compile ...'. You need to have
have 2 directory entries to dial-in to magic. One will have MAGICLOG
as its associated script file, and the other will have MAGICREP. If
you use Alt-D to select what entry you want to dial, you don't
have to set the directory number in the script. I set them up so that
MAGICLOG is directory entry # 1 and MAGICREP is directory entry # 2.
.
To compile all you have to do is type ASPCOMP MAGICLOG, which will
create MAGICLOG.ASX, then ASPCOMP MAGICREP which creates MAGICREP.ASX
when you run from PCLUS you can either use Alt-D and then execute
the appropriate directory entry or use ALT-F5 to run a specific scrip
t file which will automatically dial the appropriate directory entry
if you have set the directory # to match what your directory is.
Msg #26391 Dated 19:35:31 11-24-91 25934 <--> 26392
From: CY KELLER
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
All interested in palm sized computers should find Laptop
magazines in a computer store. Some of them list at least six or
seven available in the USA.
Msg #26392 Dated 19:35:31 11-24-91 25972 <--> 26393
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I made the same mistake and am kicking myself for missing Giorgio.
I agree on Hart's flashing, but I always sit way on the left side and
thought maybe it was just my severe angle. The funniest part of Ogden
's act is all the schtick he does BEFORE he is introduced. The
BEANO product is a riot - amazingly enough it is real ! Just goes to
show how sensitive our society is to normal bodily functions and the
extremes we go to overcome them.
Msg #26393 Dated 19:35:37 11-24-91 26209 <--> 26420
From: JERRY BURTON
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
Tabman don't even consider missing DMS !! Need to make the connection
Msg #26394 Dated 19:35:38 11-24-91 26191 <--> 26395
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
When I worked restaurants, alternating with Bill Wells among
others, I closed with the Benson Bowl Routine presented with an
Indian Begging Bowl. I would leave the begging bowl on the table
and a waitress would return it to me; usually with a tip.
Msg #26395 Dated 19:35:47 11-24-91 26268 <--> 26409
From: CY KELLER
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Once when talking to Stanley Jaks I learned that a waiter would
occasionally remove his card from the table. When asked why, the
answer would be "This is _my_ table". The waiter felt that
Stanley's should would hold up the turn-over on the table. This
is something to consider when working. My answer to the problem
was to let the waiter's have 50% of the tip. Knowing this, they
would let the customers know I was available to perform.
Msg #26396 Dated 19:35:58 11-24-91 26269 <--> 26397
From: CY KELLER
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: KRESKIN
Chan Canasta from England probably did more with a stacked deck
than anyone this kside of Si Stebbins. He played the Ed Sullivan
show I think more than once. Chan was from England. Wonder
whatever happened to him.
Msg #26397 Dated 19:35:39 11-24-91 26269 <--> 26398
From: JERRY BURTON
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: KRESKIN
T A perhaps you can help me. I've been researching one-way card effec
ts for use with the Tarot trumps (which as you know are natural one-
way faces and some even have a one-way back - the Aquarius deck is
perfect). In Hugart's Encycopedia of Card Tricks I came across a
reference to an Annemann statement that Bicycles Rider Backs have a
one way mark on the upper left corner - "a loop which ends in a curl
at one end of the card and a white dot at the other end".
.
I pulled a modern bicycle pack and see the loop, but can't figure out
the dot. Is this because the bicycles used to me made differently or
am I just missing something ?
G
Msg #26398 Dated 19:39:32 11-24-91 26269 <--> 26433
From: JERRY BURTON
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: KRESKIN
T A perhaps you can help me. I've been researching one-way card effec
ts for use with the Tarot trumps (which as you know are natural one-
way faces and some even have a one-way back - the Aquarius deck is
perfect). In Hugart's Encycopedia of Card Tricks I came across a
reference to an Annemann statement that Bicycles Rider Backs have a
one way mark on the upper left corner - "a loop which ends in a curl
at one end of the card and a white dot at the other end".
.
I pulled a modern bicycle pack and see the loop, but can't figure out
the dot. Is this because the bicycles used to me made differently or
am I just missing something ?
.
On page 138 there is a picture of an 'old' style bicycle (the kind
with the bicycle shown from the side sans rider) the reference says
they are Bicycle League back cards # 808. The Annemann reference is
for the rider back deck. Help !!!
Msg #26399 Dated 19:39:46 11-24-91 26257 <--> 26427
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Does Pat Page use a classic palm or a beggers purse palm ? Classic
with a dime would be amazing - beggers purse with a dime would be
good as well.
Msg #26400 Dated 19:39:51 11-24-91 26324 <--> 26448
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FLASH!!!!
Great - Let's plan on a MAGIC! night at the TOMFOOLERY during DMS !
Msg #26401 Dated 19:39:53 11-24-91 26325 <--> 26480
From: JERRY BURTON
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
Did you get your computer back ? Havn't seen you on line for a while.
Next time I see you will show the 'Divining Wand' effect I've come
up with using the 5 card effect you showed me.
Msg #26403 Dated 19:39:57 11-24-91 26327 <--> 26436
From: JERRY BURTON
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: YECCH
Regarding smoking on airplanes (I being a smoker) am all in favor of
baning smoking on planes, but I also agree with David that the airlin
es are increasing the propbability of serious infection due to their
cutting back on the recirculation system.
.
If people choose to smell bad, its your choice to consider avoiding
them - it's their choice to choose what to do with their bodies. I
hate it when other people try to decide what's good for other people.
If everyone would spend as much energy on cleaning up their own act,
the planet would be better off.
Msg #26404 Dated 19:40:07 11-24-91 26328 <-
From: JERRY BURTON
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Thanks for the review, I can't wait to see my favorite first familiy!
Msg #26405 Dated 19:40:10 11-24-91 26363 <--> 26418
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
The Wiltern is on the South side of Wilshire 2 blocks East of
La Cienega. There is a large parking lot right behind (South) of
the Wiltern. Suggest we meet in front of the Wiltern at 1 pm, all
members that have them wear buttons. See you all Sunday.
Msg #26406 Dated 19:40:15 11-24-91 26173 <--> 26419
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
I was doing some things at the end of the upstairs bar Friday night.
One thing I do is a Prof Nighmare (where I start from a single rope
and move into 3 diff lengths and finally back to a single length) I
hadn't seen what anyone else was doing and was amazed when I saw
2 of the main guys doing Prof Nightmare. I can't believe that the
working pros do the effect in such a standard unimaginative way, much
less that there are several of them doing exactly the same effect.
.
I also could not believe Ogden doing sponges balls in the parlour,
it just doesn't play large enough for the parlour. People in the back
have no idea what is going on. Sponge balls for close-up is still
powerful, in the parlor it sucks.
Msg #26407 Dated 19:40:26 11-24-91 26038 <--> 26655
From: JERRY BURTON
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: WHAT
Is it feather thru quarter (which makes sense) or cigarette thru
feather (which doesn't). How about Turkey thru Eisenhauer for
Thanksgiving ?
Msg #26408 Dated 19:40:30 11-24-91 26200 <--> 26434
From: JERRY BURTON
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Just saw Siskel & Ebert's review of Adam's Family - 2 thumbs down,
no mention of thing at all. Gee, I used to like those guys !
Msg #26409 Dated 19:40:33 11-24-91 26097 <--> 26414
From: JERRY BURTON
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Highly recommend getting THE MAGIC MENU - YEAR ONE. Has some dynomite
stuff for walk around guys.
Msg #26410 Dated 19:40:37 11-24-91 26113 <--> 26475
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
He must have been edicated at UCRA !
Msg #26411 Dated 20:27:25 11-24-91 -> 26426
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: ALL
Re: ED SULLIVAN
Sorry to report no 6-minute segment of magicians on the
Ed Sullivan reprise. There were a few seconds of light
bulbs being pulled from Marvyn Roy's mouth as a lead-in
to a commercial (no intro, not even clear he was a
magician), and late in the show Ballantine was
highlighted briefly. The entire show was cut for a 30-
second or less attention span. The best moments of a
quasi-magical nature came from Senor Wences. Then and
now a very funny guy.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #26414 Dated 21:28:19 11-24-91 26359 <--> 26415
From: JIM SISTI
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Thanks, Kevin. Looking forward to having you as a subcriber!
Msg #26415 Dated 21:33:16 11-24-91 26378 <--> 26416
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
OK. I understand, and in my case, the restaurant DOES pay me to be
there, and quit well i might add, so that is where thats relevant. If
I were not being paid by the restaurant, the jaks idea is great! the
idea of a fee if the restaurant doesnt pay, and a table card stating
that. Dean Hankey did that with a menu and the person would choose what
they wanted to see(?). As to the tip situation, I dont need to hustle
tips, and the customer usually leaves the bill with me after the last
effect. Thanks for the info.
Msg #26416 Dated 21:37:49 11-24-91 26409 <--> 26455
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
thanks
Msg #26418 Dated 22:27:55 11-24-91 26379 <--> 26444
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
The Copperfield Show that MAGIC! will be attending in force is on
Sunday, December 1st at 1:30 p.m. at the Wiltern Theater. I would
suggest that MAGIC! members assemble there _no_ _later_ _than_ _1:00_
_p.m._
Msg #26419 Dated 22:35:26 11-24-91 26406 <--> 26459
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: JAPAN
I agree that all of the Professor's Nightmares that were being done did
all seem to be done in the standard unimaginative way - a further
frustration! Maybe there should be a master list of "banned" tricks
that can only be done in the basement rooms.
Part of Ogden's sponge ball routine seemed to me to work OK in the
Parlour (mouth production), but yes, the moves in the spectator's hand
loose something when the spectator is sitting in the front row and
can't be seen by anyone.
Msg #26420 Dated 22:39:16 11-24-91 26391 <--> 26421
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: JAPAN
Thanks for the hint about Laptop magazine, Cy. If the palmtops catch
on, is Laptop going to have to spawn off another magazine?
Msg #26421 Dated 22:40:13 11-24-91 26392 <--> 26428
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: JAPAN
I was sitting on the left side but directly on the center aisle, so I
don't think it was your severe angle. I should have been in a perfect
spot to see nothing!
Ogden's Beano is both genuine and funny! And yes, we DO live in a
weird society!
Msg #26422 Dated 22:43:49 11-24-91 -> 26460
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHEEP ANKLE BONE
Pete, talking to my dad this weekend, he says he's going to butcher a
sheep or two before the end of the year. Did you ever get a sheep
ankle bone? If you let me know exactly what to look for I'll have him
save you a couple.
Charlie
Msg #26423 Dated 22:44:14 11-24-91 -> 26461
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LINKING RINGS
Richard Hatch did a wonderful lecture on the Linking Rings the other
night at the local club meeting. He does do a very good ring routine.
He also mentioned something about some articles about the history of
the rings in Hugard's Magic Monthly. Are you aware of these? If not
I'll ask Richard for some more details.
Charlie
Msg #26426 Dated 22:46:24 11-24-91 26411 <--> 26458
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: ED SULLIVAN
Thanks for the Ed Sullivan reprise report, Steve. Apppreciate you
taking the time to post it. Sorry they didn't feature the magi on this
one. AND we knew who they were! Biro put a number of 'em together for
a Magic Reprise of Ed Sullivan at the IBM in Baltimore - it was
GREAAAT!
Msg #26427 Dated 23:48:53 11-24-91 26310 <--> 26437
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Yep, that's kind of what I meant. It's awful hard to put these
things into words. The "big thumb muscle" is definitely used,
along with the first joint of the thumb as a sort of "trigger".
It supports my comment about the value of video. In this case one
on one instruction is the best, followed by video. Books come in
third on this one.
Did you see Sullivan tonight? I'm going to have to re-watch my
tape, but I did see Mr Electric, and Carl Ballantine. I heard
there were others too.
David (the other one)
Msg #26428 Dated 23:49:05 11-24-91 26248 <--> 26432
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
I'll be more than happy to answer any questions about video to
computer conversions. From what I've seen though, a scan of a
photo beats direct video every time. There just aren't enough
video lines available for a good capture. It looks okay if you
want to generate a video slide show on a video monitor, but when
you convert to GIF or PCX there just isn't enough to work with.
Check out some of my old uploads for examples. "WIZRD" was a
video shoot of a poster, and "T_WINDOW" was captured off
Copperfield's last special and zoomed to 320 X 200. Pretty blurry
stuff. Compare those to "VEGAS.GIF" and you'll see what I mean.
David (the other one)
Msg #26432 Dated 0:31:39 11-25-91 26428 <--> 26442
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: JAPAN
David -
Have you got any suggestions on the best settings for scanning photos
on an HP ScanJet? I'm using their original ScanGal program and I'm
finding that photos come out very grainy. The main problem seems to be
the 640 x 480 limitation of the EGA/VGA screen.
Msg #26433 Dated 0:32:42 11-25-91 26181 <--> 26435
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: KRESKIN
I'm sorry to admit -- I winced a lot during the act. I thought he used
a real "minimal" effect -- just calling off cards like that, and I
don't know how impressed the audience was. I really mean that -- I
don't know if that would have struck laymen as impressive mind reading.
Intuitively, I think not. I thought the ploy he used to get the host
to choose the correct pocket was pretty transparent, and can't believe
that anyone was fooled by that. The stuff about being barred in LV and
finding "two or three thousand" checks was fun, but I think yes, they
were ploys -- showmanship.
Msg #26434 Dated 0:36:45 11-25-91 26408 <--> 26457
From: EVAN KATZ
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
What's interesting about Siskel & Ebert is that they really do seem to
kind of loath each other. I read a long PLAYBOY interview between
them, and they spent most of the time throwing nasty underhanded barbs
at each other.
Msg #26435 Dated 0:43:01 11-25-91 26398 <--> 26471
From: EVAN KATZ
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: KRESKIN
You get an answer on the bicycle back question, Jerry?
Msg #26436 Dated 0:56:51 11-25-91 26327 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: YECCH
Mike Lacey, owner of the Comedy Magic Club in Hermosa Beach, Calif.,
spent a ton of money to install Two, Count 'em Two, Industrial
Strength AIR/SMOKE CLEANING devices in his club.
Msg #26437 Dated 0:56:56 11-25-91 26329 <--> 26456
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
I am changing the Aluminum Rod to a wooden one! I once opened the
bottom plate of a spring wound Foton still camera and the room
litarally filled with springs and stuff... I somehow (I think( found
all the pieces... put them into a huge plastic bag and shipped all
back to factory with a GIANT LETTER OF APOLOGY and said I would
never turn another screw counter-clocwise on anything I didn't know
about!
Msg #26438 Dated 0:57:05 11-25-91 26332 <--> 26464
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
I knew all of the foregoing... because I saw the moon last night.
Msg #26439 Dated 0:57:08 11-25-91 26333 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Two Aspirin? On top of the seven Advil?
Msg #26440 Dated 0:57:11 11-25-91 26340 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: HONG KONG
His name isn't Kuda is it?
Msg #26441 Dated 0:57:14 11-25-91 26349 <--> 26599
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Running a country... nah, hire that out... just own one!
Msg #26442 Dated 0:57:17 11-25-91 26352 <--> 26445
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: JAPAN
Seems to me the Queen of Hearts and Four of Clubs get ninety percent
of the calls I am involved with!
Msg #26443 Dated 0:57:21 11-25-91 26361 <--> 26523
From: PETE BIRO
To: JACK TAVES (X)
Re: MICKEY MOUSE MAGICIAN
Byron Walker has a mint in box of the 1975 model.
Msg #26444 Dated 0:57:24 11-25-91 26363 <--> 26466
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
You won't miss the magicians... they won't be acting like regular
people. Will be twisting aces, stuffing feather flowers in their
sleeves, holding their hands like they are wearing thumbtips...
.
THAT IS IT FROG... THE OFFICIAL BADGE OF MAGIC! ON A THUMB!
Msg #26445 Dated 0:57:31 11-25-91 26364 <--> 26465
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Don't you believe in trading in either?
Msg #26446 Dated 0:57:34 11-25-91 26366 <--> 26467
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
You should buy him a lower table.
Msg #26448 Dated 0:57:40 11-25-91 26370 <--> 26449
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: FLASH!!!!
I don't know the details, but keep it quiet please until it is a
fully done deal... only for MAGIC! memebers to know...
Msg #26449 Dated 0:57:44 11-25-91 26377 <--> 26530
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: FLASH!!!!
No real firm news on opening etc... keep q t pleeze..
Msg #26450 Dated 0:57:47 11-25-91 26382 <--> 26451
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Sounds like the PRACTICAL way a routine by Grant would be framed!
He had soooo much good stuff.
Msg #26451 Dated 0:57:51 11-25-91 26383 <--> 26452
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
But was it an ungaffed borrowed ring? Or did he put the Himber ring
onto the stem? My version was 1971.
Msg #26452 Dated 0:57:55 11-25-91 26384 <--> 26534
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
I understand the reason Cardini did not talk to Vernon, when he
came out to accept an award from the Academy of Magical Arts, was
that most of his stuff was what Vernon published in "Symphony of
The Rings" by Ganson ( a separate book, from the Vernon Book of ).
Msg #26453 Dated 0:58:01 11-25-91 26385 <--> 26469
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
Which version of the notes do you have? And if not the latest let
me have a mailing address and will send to you. (I will make this
offer to the first FIVE that ask... that's all the leftover copies
I have.
Msg #26454 Dated 0:58:07 11-25-91 26390 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROBOT AT TAPER
OK, jer, will type the commands and will see what happens... tanks
Msg #26455 Dated 0:58:10 11-25-91 26394 <--> 26654
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: MENU ITEMS (YUM)
Nice touch. That is why I came up with the tamborine (besides its
ability to make cover the sound of a noisy load)... it is a common
item to pass for tips.
Msg #26456 Dated 0:58:15 11-25-91 26399 <--> 26463
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Neither palm. Altho more of a Classic. He holds the coin almost
at his wrist! At the very (wrist end) base of the big thumb muscle.
Msg #26457 Dated 0:58:19 11-25-91 26408 <--> 26470
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
Tonight I drove past a movie theater in San Francisco twice. Once
going into town the second time heading home.
.
Both times there was a line to the end of the block around tahe
corner and down to the end of the next block... for... Adam's
Family and THING. (that's the wording on the marqee).
Msg #26458 Dated 0:58:26 11-25-91 26411 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: ED SULLIVAN
We understand the Magician's segment will feature them, but not
until the third show.
.
Yep, many of the segments were shorter than those kinds of things
currently on MTV and the "Short Attention Span" theater!
.
Who the heck needed the Burt Reynolds segments???? Ed Sullivan
knew how to introduce acts, why a new face on the show as MC?????
Argh....
Msg #26459 Dated 0:58:37 11-25-91 26419 <--> 26532
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
How about mentioning the names of the Professor's Nightmare users
you all saw at the Tragic Castle???? Huh... inquiring minds wanna
know.
.
I guess one of these days, soon, I have to upload the NEMO ROPE
trick (my version of Prof Nmare)... Ken Brooke had planned to sell
it...
Msg #26460 Dated 0:58:45 11-25-91 26422 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: SHEEP ANKLE BONE
Not got no bones yet... I just got a book showing pictures of
ancient bones for dice. If I scan and upload as a PCX file can
you read????
Msg #26461 Dated 0:58:50 11-25-91 26423 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: LINKING RINGS
I have a complete file of Hugard's but did not scour for ring stuff.
I have just uncovered some early stuff from European sources... one
that describes the origin from India, not China... hmmmmm
Msg #26463 Dated 1:51:23 11-25-91 26437 <--> 26486
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
Glad to hear you swapped the metal rod for a wooden one - MUCH safer!
Yeah, I once opened the shutter assembly on a nice Mamiya lens for a
2-1/4" twin lens. Everything was going fine until I touched one little
item - POOF! Springs ALL OVER THE PLACE. I spent 4 hours going over
the floor with a mini-vac and dumping the contents onto a white piece
of paper. Finally found all the parts, but there is still one spring
that I could never get back in place. Shutter works OK, but no synch.
Msg #26464 Dated 1:54:15 11-25-91 26438 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GLOBAL CARD TRICK
Sheesh! I saw the moon last night and it didn't do a darn thing for
me! Oh, well. Maybe next moon.
Msg #26465 Dated 1:55:47 11-25-91 26445 <--> 26515
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
RE: "Don't you believe in trading in..." - Nope! Some day I'm planning
on starting a Museum of Technology - SERIOUSLY! Besides - you never
know when you might need a Honeywell 6-33.
Msg #26466 Dated 1:57:07 11-25-91 26444 <--> 26487
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
RE: Magicians twisting aces, using thumb tip as a MAGIC! badge --
That's IT, Biro - I quit - I is gone for good - GOOD BYE.
Msg #26467 Dated 1:58:12 11-25-91 26446 <--> 26481
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I would buy Nathan a lower table for his computer but I'm trying to
extend his reach.
Msg #26469 Dated 2:02:06 11-25-91 26453 <--> 26501
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WAKEMAN
OK - PUT ME ON THE LIST FOR YOUR LECTURE NOTES!!!
Msg #26470 Dated 2:02:53 11-25-91 26457 <--> 26636
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HART IS THE THING
And just in case you haven't looked lately, there is a PCX of
Christopher Hart in the files area here on MAGIC! It is from the 1991
Dessert Magic Seminar.
Msg #26471 Dated 2:04:26 11-25-91 26397 <--> 26472
From: T A WATERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: KRESKIN
Yes, Bicycle cards no longer have that particular flaw; some of the
Jumbo Bicycle decks do, however. Of course my philosophy is that
every deck has a reverse mark, it is just a matter of finding it.
Msg #26472 Dated 2:06:37 11-25-91 26398 <--> 26473
From: T A WATERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: KRESKIN
See previous answer; as for the League back, the particular kind
Annemann used had a central wheel with three wings -- you can read this
reverse from several feet away. For a long time this deck was not
readily available in the US, it was only distributed outside our
borders, but now you can find them if you hunt around.
Msg #26473 Dated 2:13:34 11-25-91 26396 <--> 26476
From: T A WATERS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: KRESKIN
He became a fine artist -- painter; many exhibits of his work in
England and I presume elsewhere. He has occasionally performed in th
years since.
Msg #26474 Dated 4:22:38 11-25-91 -> 26484
From: DOUG SMITH
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHEEPS ANKLES
I would enjoy a set of your notes.....Can you give details on what you
wish for sheep ankles. My wife's uncle raises sheep and does his own
butchering and we would be glad to see what he can do. Front or rear
ankles? or is there no difference? some lambs die in the spring,
would that size be of help?....if notes available send to Doug Smith
P> O> Box 206 Rockton, Ill 61072-0206
Msg #26475 Dated 4:27:50 11-25-91 26381 <--> 26537
From: MAX MAVEN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
There are two authorized videotapes of Del's full length close-up show,
but the distribution is extremely tight.
Msg #26476 Dated 4:28:52 11-25-91 26396 <--> 26479
From: MAX MAVEN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: KRESKIN
To augment T.A.'s comment, Canasta retired from full-time performing in
the early 1970s. He paints under his real name (Mifelew). These days he
does about one show a year, set up as a private function -- but its
real purpose is to promote the paintings.
Msg #26478 Dated 6:24:34 11-25-91 -> 26536
From: MICHAEL AMMAR
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
Ken Norris, of Magicians Video Network, made a broadcast quality copy
of Del Rays lecture within the last year, to year and a half. Ken is
in Washington, and I believe he might have recorded the lecture in
Baltimore. I recall him commenting that it was an excellent lecture,
and I believe it was a 2 camera shoot. I have no idea if it is being
planned for distribution, or if it was shot for historical purposes, or
what.
Msg #26479 Dated 7:51:19 11-25-91 26472 <--> 26483
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: KRESKIN
I take it that the decks Annemann used were not the "Racer Backs" with
a central wheel and four wings?
Msg #26480 Dated 8:58:33 11-25-91 26401 <-
From: MIKE KING
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHATSA HAPPENING??
No I'm still computerless. I am using a loaner until I can afford to
buy a new one. Problem is I want a nicer new one. And will have to
save coins for awhile to afford it. Great to hear about the 'Divining'
effect. I look forward to hearing seeing it. Keep in touch. MIKE.
Msg #26481 Dated 9:17:26 11-25-91 26467 <--> 26648
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
Yeah, and he probably will GROW into it! ;+)
Msg #26483 Dated 9:17:36 11-25-91 26471 <--> 26582
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: KRESKIN
Or making your own mark. Doesn't everyone want to make thier own
Mark?
Msg #26484 Dated 9:17:40 11-25-91 26474 <--> 26485
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: SHEEPS ANKLES
In the old gambling books, sheeps ankle bones were used as later
players used dice. Hence, "roll them bones"... I just figure
whatever sheep ankle bones I can get my mitts on would enhance my
display of olde gaming devices! So, I take what comes!
.
Notes is going to come to you in a few days. Tanks!
Msg #26485 Dated 9:22:40 11-25-91 26474 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: SHEEPS ANKLES
In the old gambling books, sheeps ankle bones were used as later
players used dice. Hence, "roll them bones"... I just figure
whatever sheep ankle bones I can get my mitts on would enhance my
display of olde gaming devices! So, I take what comes!
.
Notes is going to come to you in a few days.
Msg #26486 Dated 10:06:36 11-25-91 26250 <--> 26504
From: BART BISHOP
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MUSCLE PASS
I am fortunate enough to have obtained one of the M. Ammar tapes at
the last SAM in Vegas.
I think the description of the effect and the "practice session" are
well worth the price of the tape. It is a lot better than trying to
get the subtle handling from print. Recommended!
Msg #26487 Dated 12:01:24 11-25-91 26405 <--> 26514
From: MARVIN STERN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Better check your Thomas guide. La Cienega is no where near the
Wiltern. DThe Wiltern is on the corner of Western and Wilshire.
La Cienega is blocks west of Fairfax.
Been bike riding lately down at Newport?
Msg #26488 Dated 12:03:43 11-25-91
From: MARVIN STERN
To: BRUCE SANDERCOCK (X)
Re: JUICE
Any luck with Jimmy Payne?
See you the 3rd at Lawrys at 5:30, then off to Copperfield.
Msg #26489 Dated 12:23:26 11-25-91 25849 <--> 26491
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: IBM
I would suggest that you simply visit any of the local Hobby shops
that carry model trains or military models and see if they are
interesting in buying lichen moss from you. I have seen it simply
bagged up in plastic bags as is and also airbushed autumn leaf colors
of orange, yellow, red and brown. It is sold that way and also glued
onto plastic tree limbs or wire tree limbs for a lot more money (but
then somebody has to spend a lot of time gluing it onto the trees).
There are also model shows in most larger cities where you might rent
a table and sell the stuff yourself. In case you ain't found your
yellow pages yet, try Aardvark's Model Train Shop on 3607 Gallatin
Rd in N'town or call 'em at 615-228-4639.
Msg #26490 Dated 12:23:54 11-25-91 25853 <--> 26500
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
I was kidding of course, in looking at a site, we need: an airport
near by, a 500 room hotel, with at least two large ballrooms (if they
have the rooms and ballrooms, they usually have the rest we need),
and a 1500 seat theatre. Restaurants in the immediate area are also
important. There are other items but those are the big ones.
Msg #26491 Dated 12:24:08 11-25-91 25854 <--> 26493
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: IBM
As long as the Biro isn't with us, then we should be OK! Besides we
aren't key or executives.
Msg #26493 Dated 12:24:24 11-25-91 25871 <--> 26507
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: IBM
....or simplier yet for Tabbo to just run the train tracks for his
model layout right thru the lichen forest in the woods.
Msg #26496 Dated 12:24:48 11-25-91 25875 <--> 26545
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
What a bummer! I mean about the accident. I did find unless the
left handers learned how to throw curves and one of their curves to
me didn't break. Always felt like ducking out of the way after that.
(Note: Messages 26497 through 26499 were personal and do not appear
here.)
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