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Msg #27502 Dated 13:15:00 12-04-91 27481 <--> 27514
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
The Harry Stanley copyrights for the various books now belong to
Supreme. As for the marketed tricks, there is some dispute over this.
Msg #27503 Dated 13:15:32 12-04-91 27488 <--> 27515
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Actually, "Interlude" is the title Jonathan Pendragon came up with;
Steinmeyer's original title was "Permeability."
Msg #27504 Dated 13:16:10 12-04-91 27490 <--> 27505
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: AWARDS
Mahka Tendo does Kato's Card Happening on a regular basis, and well.
Scott Cervine has been doing comedy for several years. The act has some
elements from the earlier silent manip act, but has changed radically
over time.
Msg #27505 Dated 13:18:30 12-04-91 27493 <--> 27516
From: MAX MAVEN
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: AWARDS
Barclay is a friend, but we're not in constant contact. I know he is
working on some major projects, but if you want to see him work in the
near future your best bet is to check the Las Vegas listings,
because he works as the opening act for main room headliner shows
now and then.
Msg #27510 Dated 14:49:05 12-04-91 27496 <--> 27511
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
DC International Fan Club
11777 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles 90049.
Msg #27511 Dated 15:04:33 12-04-91 27496 <--> 27512
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Address should show # 601.
Msg #27512 Dated 16:02:00 12-04-91 27496 <--> 27517
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
I thught you got it when you wuz in Las Veeee? Not sure. Will see
what I gots in my files.
Msg #27514 Dated 16:02:09 12-04-91 27502 <--> 27534
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Thanks Max... will send off some fast written correspondence...
I know there were a couple of "lads" doing biz as "Repro" magic
at one time... but... Also, new owners at Supreme... Joe Stevens
is dialed in there pretty solid. YO!
Msg #27515 Dated 16:02:14 12-04-91 27503 <--> 27563
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Ah, thanks much... nice variation on Zig Zag, don't you think?
Msg #27516 Dated 16:02:17 12-04-91 27504 <--> 27531
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: AWARDS
Sorry that I am going to miss him when he comes up to Oakland. I
always thought he was an excellent stage performer.
Msg #27517 Dated 16:02:21 12-04-91 27510 <--> 27520
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
You beat me to it! Thanks for postin' DC's address...
Msg #27520 Dated 16:22:06 12-04-91 27511 <--> 27521
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Thanks, Marvin! I got it now as:
DC International Fan Club
11777 San Vicente Blvd. # 601
Los Angeles, Ca. 90049
Msg #27521 Dated 16:23:18 12-04-91 27512 <--> 27535
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
I got an address, but not the official "Fan Club" address. Didn't know
what matched what. Marvin has now posted the official one.
Msg #27524 Dated 16:33:24 12-04-91 -> 27532
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
I was reminded today that Allan Ackerman will be lecturing this Sunday
(December 8th) at the Magic Castle. Allan is not doing a lecture tour
right now, so this is a special "one shot" lecture. It will begin at
3 p.m.
(Castle lectures are only open to Regular Members of the Castle).
Msg #27526 Dated 17:22:57 12-04-91 -> 27527
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SETUP
hAVE YOU EVER HAD A CHANCE TO CATCH BILL GOLDMAN? HE DOESN'T WORK THE
SHOW ANYMORE, BUT USED TO WORK FOR MEMOREX. HE IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST
CES SHOW ANY MORE, BUT USED TO
BE WITH MEMOREX. hE IS, IN MY OPINION, THE BEST IN THE TRADE SHOW
BUSINESS.
Msg #27527 Dated 17:25:11 12-04-91 -> 27549
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SETUP
Yea, he makes me want to go home and throw all my magic in the garbage.
Msg #27528 Dated 17:25:56 12-04-91 -> 27529
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Glad to hear about Salvano being Ok. Too many smokes, maybe?
Msg #27529 Dated 17:26:25 12-04-91 -> 27571
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Yes, that's where I saw him lecture, and had an opportunity to spend
some time with him. Not only a great magician, but a real genuine nice
guy.
Msg #27530 Dated 17:28:03 12-04-91 -> 27585
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: NEGATIVE CARDS
FranK:
Yes, I have a copy of the book. First Edition, I think (ha). The last
several trips have not allowed us sufficient time to spend together.
This trip, I had the time but you schedule was tight. It seems one of
us is often committed to something. Anyway, hopefully next time we will
be able to just sit, and kick stuff around. Whenever next time will be.
Thanks for the info on Judy.. It was really nice to see her again. But
a comment she made sticks with me... "Ring-off-wand." It's not the
first time I've heard that. It's just so easy to forget what really
works. We all seem to have a tendency to get caught up in moves.
I too enjoy our time together. It alwasy seems to go by so quickly.
That Barry fellow hasn't sent me his card. I've been looking for it in
the mail. But nothing yet. Anxious to see it. Well, since I'm typing
this on-line, I'm going to leave for now. Talk with you soon.
Har,
Msg #27531 Dated 17:41:14 12-04-91 27505 <-
From: MIKE KING
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: AWARDS
Thanks Max. I'll do that. And thanks again for the info about the
Merlin's event. MIKE.
Msg #27532 Dated 17:42:15 12-04-91 27524 <--> 27548
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Thanks David. By the way, how's tricks? Haven't heard from ya in a
while. Hope things are well with you and yours. MIKE.
Msg #27534 Dated 17:53:43 12-04-91 27514 <--> 27559
From: MAX MAVEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
Repro Magic is still very much in business.
Msg #27535 Dated 18:00:32 12-04-91 27425 <--> 27537
From: CY KELLER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Icarus was certainly not very successful as he died flying too
near the sun. His father Daedlus, who unvented the wings, was
successful in flight. Probably the first great inventor.
Understand her created the great maze in Crete. wish I was clear
on what this has to do with the Copperfield effect.
Msg #27536 Dated 18:00:41 12-04-91 27435 <--> 27572
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
I assume I was correct on the Zombie?
Msg #27537 Dated 18:00:47 12-04-91 27464 <--> 27545
From: CY KELLER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Richard Bach - Jonathan Livingston Seagull. A best seller and a
cult book. There was a second book. Don't remember the name of
the second book. He was living with or married to Leslie Parrish
who played Daisy Mae in Lil Abner. Not sure of the latter - I may
have it all wrong. Sound like a gossip columnist. It's probably
more than anyone wants to know.
Msg #27544 Dated 19:35:02 12-04-91
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: THANKS
I recieved the pin today. That was very considerate. Don't forget to
say hello to George for me.
Msg #27545 Dated 20:26:33 12-04-91 27537 <--> 27553
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
The second book is called ILLUSIONS. It is about a pilot who follows
his dream. A MUST READ!!
Msg #27547 Dated 20:46:09 12-04-91 27482 <--> 27573
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CERVON
I've been meaning to learn the Free-turn-pass (It is on a list of about
100 other sleights, moves and tricks I want to learn) after I saw Bruce
demonstrate it in his lecture. He did it over and over and over again
and all it looks like is you are squaring up or turning the deck in
your hands. The way he explained it was the reason it is so effective
is that you would have to be in two places at once to see what the
magician is doing. A person on the right side sees one thing but a
person on the left side sees another. Now I'm curious. I'm gonna have
to go dig out that book and take a look at it. By the way, I thought
the rope routine alone was worth the price of the book. I use it all
the time!
Msg #27548 Dated 20:55:25 12-04-91 27524 <--> 27550
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
I hear he has some great books in print which I would be interested in
getting. Are you going to the lecture? I would but that is the same
day as my one big show of the year.
Msg #27549 Dated 21:55:58 12-04-91 27526 <--> 27732
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: SETUP
Hmmm... I don't recall him at Memorex - but could be that I just had
the bad luck to always pass the booth at the wrong time. Best guy I
saw at CES was working for Smith Corona.
Msg #27550 Dated 21:58:16 12-04-91 27532 <--> 27551
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Trix is for kids! I've been swamped with stuff that has been keeping
me very busy lately.
Msg #27551 Dated 21:59:04 12-04-91 27548 <--> 27577
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Don't know yet if I will be able to make the lecture. Since my
attendance is iffy, maybe someone else can help secure the books? Yes,
they are supposed to be good.
Msg #27553 Dated 22:03:32 12-04-91 27535 <--> 27554
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Well, it may not have had much to do with the Copperfield effect, but
your message was interesting! I'd forgotten that the whole thing
started when he designed the maze.
Msg #27554 Dated 22:04:34 12-04-91 27537 <--> 27561
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Ah! But isn't J.L.S. another flying tragedy? Seems to me that I
recall that it was. But, then again, my memory may be corrupt.
Msg #27557 Dated 22:44:51 12-04-91 -> 27574
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: U-MATIC CASSETTES
The new issue of In-Synch arrived today. In addition to Marv Stern's
fax number, it has a couple of likely places you could try for U-Matic
Cassettes.
One is Studio Film & Tape, 6674 Santa Monica Blvd., Hollywood, Ca.
90038. Telephone numbers are 800-824-3130, 213-466-8101, and fax,
213-466-6815.
The other is a place that RECYCLES videotape. They claim "we buy 'one
pass' 3/4", 1" and 2" videotape, restore it to almost original quality,
and sell it for 1/3 the price of new tape." International Video
Brokers, 12144 Sherman Way, North Hollywood, Ca. 91605. Telephone
numbers are 818-764-1402 and fax, 818-764-9138. "Full money back
guarantee if not completely satisfied."
Msg #27559 Dated 23:18:24 12-04-91 27481 <--> 27795
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
The Orson (not Orsen, Pete) Welles version, from what I can tell, just
used a standard switch tray as the rings were brought up on stage; they
were never ID'd by the owners in most cases, though I think one stooge
mighta been used in some shows.
I don't get the Fetlock joke...
You should take a look in David P. Abbott's BOOK OF MYSTERY (p.80)
for his routine using a larger number of rings.
I know Supreme has the rights on a lot of the stuff, books in
particular, of Stanley's.
ISBN for my Encyclopedia is 0-8160-1981-9.
Msg #27561 Dated 23:29:27 12-04-91 27535 <--> 27568
From: T A WATERS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Actually, a much better choice would be Joseph of Cupertino.
Msg #27563 Dated 23:32:48 12-04-91 27488 <--> 27564
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
How about contests for magicians who do ten minutes and it SEEMS like
fourteen hours?
Msg #27564 Dated 23:35:53 12-04-91 27515 <--> 27565
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Unless I missed something, are you calling Interlude a variation of Zig
Zag? In terms of effect they have little to do with one another -- one
is a displacement/dissection effect and the other is a penetration. I
wouldn't recommend it, but I think you could do them both in the same
show and the audience would not relate them at all.
Msg #27565 Dated 0:01:26 12-05-91 27563 <--> 27566
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Too many of those out there to judge.... tsk
Msg #27566 Dated 0:01:46 12-05-91 27564 <--> 27578
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
OK, just referring to body twisting... obscure to say the least?
Msg #27567 Dated 0:02:12 12-05-91
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LADDERS
No worthwile pix of ladders. One abbott and one thayer...stock catalog
items... sorry dude...
Msg #27568 Dated 0:02:50 12-05-91 27521 <--> 27581
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Sounds... er looks good to me...
Msg #27571 Dated 0:03:03 12-05-91 27529 <--> 27733
From: PETE BIRO
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
He sure was pleasant to be around and very giving of his stuff.
Johnny Thompson has seen him recently... not me tho...
Msg #27572 Dated 0:03:07 12-05-91 27536 <--> 27580
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
Yep... zombeeeeeeeeee it wuz.... no prizes (other than notes on way)
Msg #27573 Dated 0:03:09 12-05-91 27547 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: CERVON
I have not seen the move in action so can't REALLY COMMENT... just
trying it out it seems like a lot of work and nothing I really need.
But others...?
Msg #27574 Dated 0:03:14 12-05-91 27557 <--> 27610
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: U-MATIC CASSETTES
Have printed message 27557 thanks... now to pack...arghj...
Msg #27577 Dated 0:18:43 12-05-91 27550 <--> 27583
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Just wondering. Have been getting the chance to do more and more magic
lately. Will be at Merlin McFly's next Friday (13th) from 7 - 11 p.m.
If you get a chance drop out and see me. Drinks are on me. Also look
like I am going to land a permanent magic gig here in So. Cal. A new
venue for magic. I'll tell ya more after I sign the contract. Looks
good. A year to start with an option. Should cement the thing by years
end. Thanks for all your support and the support made available to me
through the MAGIC (tm) BBS. It really has helped to revive my career.
I owe you a great deal. I hope one day to repay. Thanks again. MIKE.
Msg #27578 Dated 0:37:46 12-05-91 27563 <--> 27592
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
RE: The contests for magicians who do ten minutes and it SEEMS like
fourteen hours.
You'd have to have a consortium of zillionaires to pay for all the
First Place trophies.
Msg #27580 Dated 0:45:03 12-05-91 27433 <--> 27671
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
Gee - I was hoping for an autographed picture of Biro on roller skate
s juggling Zombie balls ! Oh well - thanks a bunch for the notes.
Msg #27581 Dated 0:45:05 12-05-91 27440 <--> 27588
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Kevin if you saw problems with the show feel free to share them with
us. That is one reason I asked for your wife's opinion as a non-
magician. Magicians tend to be myopic about magic shows, since they
know how most of the effects are done they assume the lay audience
doesn't see through the effects - its very difficult to be objective
from an inside viewpoint.
Msg #27582 Dated 0:45:10 12-05-91 -> 27584
From: JERRY BURTON
To: ALL
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
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I just got my USC Alumni newsletter and there is a big write-up on
Michael Douglas a magician and ventriloquist, who has "... spent
many hands-on volunteer hours helping hammer the museum together from
scratch. The nonprofit musuem just celebrated its 20th anniverary,
and the 35 year old Douglas performs there monthly, giving historical
tours and teaching young magicians the tricks of the trade." The
article mentions the Magician's Hall of Fame is "deep in the donated
basement of a Hollywood bank building".
.
I had never heard of it - anyone know where or what it is ???
Msg #27583 Dated 0:43:58 12-05-91 27577 <--> 27605
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Glad to hear that things are looking up, Mike! Will keep my fingers
crossed on your big gig. Right now, you can do same for me - I've got
a new client, only contract hasn't been signed yet.
As to repayment - when you get rich and famous, there are any number of
things you could do to help MAGIC! In addition to direct help in
funding the system and the phone bills, you could set up a foundation
to teach the members how to spell.
Msg #27584 Dated 0:49:35 12-05-91 27582 <--> 27602
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
I know where USC is. As a matter of fact, since I am one of the few
folks who ever went from USC to USC to USC, I know where BOTH USC's
are. But the Magician's Hall of Fame? Of that I know nada. As far as
I ever knew, the only Magician's Hall of Fame in Hollywood was located
somewhere in an apartment building on Orange Ave., convenient to the
Magic Castle and Hamburger Hamlet.
Msg #27586 Dated 1:05:29 12-05-91 -> 27601
From: FRANK ZAK
To: ALL
Re: HOLOGRAMS
I am currently negotiating to open a magic bar/restaurant/nightclub in
Las Vegas. In the building I am going to have a gift shop. I am looking
to have a holographic door at the entrance to the gift shop. As the
customer touches the door I would like the door to vanish giving access
to the gift shop. Does anyone know who I can contact to have this
illusion built. Any help would be appreciated. Thanx.
Frank Zak
Msg #27588 Dated 2:21:52 12-05-91 27464 <--> 27593
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
David,
Richard Bach has a book called "A Gift of Wings" which is a
compilation of many of his short articles about flying. If you
can't find a copy, I have one I can loan you.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27589 Dated 2:21:57 12-05-91 27466 <--> 27599
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
It seems more likely that "like minds think alike" would be more
accurate. Maybe that should scare you?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27590 Dated 2:22:01 12-05-91 27468 <--> 27594
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
Impressive considering that there probably isn't going to be a
Nagel job.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27591 Dated 2:22:06 12-05-91 27469 <--> 27616
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
GEEZ!!!! That's a lot of lines! I used to (in my youth) write
science fiction for some extra money, and never could have gotten
that kind of sheer wordage out.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27592 Dated 2:22:10 12-05-91 27475 <--> 27596
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
I need mo. I don't have any of the addresses, so any info would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Enjoy!
Kevin
p.s., I got your notes today. Great stuff. A million thanks.
Msg #27593 Dated 2:22:15 12-05-91 27476 <--> 27600
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Pete,
The problems I saw were almost nit-picky. It was a GREAT show.
I just saw minor things which may not even be there every show.
The light bulb burned out first thing. No big deal, and no way,
really, to prevent it. I didn't think of the flying footage
until it was brought up by someone else, but it is a valid point.
The footage is a downer. Some of the illusions are used by other
big name performers almost to the exact moves. I was frustrated
in watching the filmed escape because camera angles make such a
difference in what you are seeing. I was less than impressed
with a couple of the illusions, including the ones I mentioned
earlier.
But it was a remarkable show. There wasn't anyone I talked with
who wasn't blown away. I don't really want to dwell on the
negative aspects of the show, I was just surprised how many were
overlooked in the reviews.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27594 Dated 2:22:25 12-05-91 27477 <--> 27615
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
Pete,
Give him a big "hello" for me.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27595 Dated 2:22:29 12-05-91 27478 <--> 27791
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
Pete,
Sounds like I'm gonna have to find "Behind the Fridge" somewhere.
Sounds FUNNY!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27596 Dated 2:22:33 12-05-91 27479 <--> 27597
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
I've been in much the same situation only in a musical situation.
But, at least you were prepared, and you weren't at the end of
your rope by the end of the day.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27597 Dated 2:22:38 12-05-91 27480 <--> 27598
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
Believe it or not, I've spent many hours in Barstow, and know
every restarant in that town. Hey! There's someplace I can take
you sightseeing! I'll bet your getting excited just thinking
about it.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27598 Dated 2:22:43 12-05-91 27488 <--> 27617
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
Yes, DC did the grafitti on brick wall prediction. This was not
one of my favorite illusions, but it was well done.
If you had posted the Caveney anecdote before, I hadn't seen it,
so am glad you posted again.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27599 Dated 2:22:48 12-05-91 27489 <--> 27614
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Pete,
Don't you think it is a lot more fun to try to figure out what
the connection between the message and the message header is?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27600 Dated 2:22:53 12-05-91 27537 <--> 27612
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Cy,
If it makes you feel better, you are right with your Bach info.
The second book that was a success for Bach was called
"Illusions." I've always been tempted to write a book that
referred to that one and title it: "Allusions."
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27601 Dated 2:22:58 12-05-91 27586 <--> 27607
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Frank,
A hologram won't do what you want for your front door. All a
hologram can do is seem to project a 3-dimensional object in 2
dimensions. I think I can figure out a way for you to do what
you want, depending of course, on what you want. An interesting
effect would be to have a hologram of something entirely diffent
than your bar, and surprise them when they walk in. Sort of a
reverse of what you said you wanted.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27602 Dated 2:23:43 12-05-91 27584 <--> 27609
From: MAX MAVEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
The exhibit is run by the Society of American Magicians; the person in
charge is John Zweers.
Msg #27604 Dated 5:52:01 12-05-91
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SLC
Up myself til 2am working on rock and roll and now heading to airport
in a half hour and I haven't packed anything but the PONSIN book yet!
Msg #27605 Dated 9:13:40 12-05-91 27583 <--> 27620
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
I would be one of those needing the spelling lessons. I figure I
should get the ideas out, editors can fix the typos and mis-spellings.
Good luck with your new client. They're crossed!!!!!
Msg #27607 Dated 9:17:42 12-05-91 27586 <--> 27611
From: MIKE KING
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Please feel free to call upon me at anytime. I am a full-time magician
who not only performs but designs effect and illusions for music and
movie trade. Am doing a series of bigger effects for a rock group now.
And in my past have designed stuff for magic themed resturants/clubs.
You may feel free to call me by Ma Bell (213) 856-5652 or drop me a
line at 8424A Santa Monica Blvd. Suite 192, West Hollywood, CA 90069.
GOOD LUCK!!!! And thanks for helping to promote magic. MIKE.
Msg #27609 Dated 10:14:01 12-05-91 27582 <--> 27618
From: MARVIN STERN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
Jerry: The SAM Hall of Fame is in the basement of Home Savings, Vine
and Sunset.
Visits are by appointment only. Contact John Engman (818)814-7652.
Max mentioned John Zweers. John is in charge, but John is the guy to
call and make arraingements.
Say hello to John for me.
Line 4 should read: Zweers is in charge, but Engman is the guy to call.
Am I being to sound like Pete?
Msg #27610 Dated 10:20:09 12-05-91 27557 <--> 27621
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: U-MATIC CASSETTES
In regards to U-Matic cassettes and my fax number, THAT IS NOT MY FAX
NUMBER, NOT MY COMPANY, AND I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT COMPANY,
I haven't seen blurb, but in the past, other people have confussed my
company with that one.
NO CONNECTION.
As you can tell, I don't want to be associated with them in any way,
shape or form.
Msg #27611 Dated 10:29:17 12-05-91 27586 <--> 27631
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
One knowledgable dude in holography is Dr. A. Porter McLaurin at the
University of South Carolina in Columbia, S.C. I don't have his office
phone number handy, but he should be easy to find.
Msg #27612 Dated 10:32:00 12-05-91 27588 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: DAVID COPPERFIELD SHOW
Thanks. But I'm only the one making the suggestion. It is DC who will
be looking for the book if he's interested. I do most of my flying in
aircraft.
Msg #27613 Dated 10:33:18 12-05-91 -> 27622
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASSETTS
Pete ;PLEASE read my message 27610 to David. The company he referred
to is NOT my company, and I want that made clear.
Msg #27614 Dated 10:34:42 12-05-91 27589 <--> 27646
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
Scare me? Enuf so that I'm planning on changing my mind!
Msg #27615 Dated 10:35:33 12-05-91 27590 <--> 27647
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
Yep! I guess that the number of potential bidders for the Nagel un-job
is related to the presumed state of the economy. I do hope that the
change to MS-DOS machines will help get Nagel active on MAGIC!
Msg #27616 Dated 10:37:36 12-05-91 27591 <--> 27648
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Actually, the final product was quite slim as dissertations go. But I
got it done (the writing to oral exam) in six weeks and, not too long
after, got my diploma via third class mail.
Msg #27617 Dated 10:41:03 12-05-91 27592 <--> 27633
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Since the Biro are out of town, you can reserve a place at Desert Magic
by calling Stevens Magic Emporium, 3238 East Douglas, Wichita, Kansas
67208. Phone is 316-683-9582 and 316-683-5861. You might tell 'em
that MAGIC! sent you.
Msg #27618 Dated 10:45:24 12-05-91 27602 <--> 27619
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
THanks for the info, Max. I'll have to check it out some time when I'm
in the neighborhood.
Msg #27619 Dated 10:46:22 12-05-91 27609 <--> 27628
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
Thanks for the info on the SAM Hall of Fame, Marvin. Maybe we should
arrange a MAGIC! tour sometime?
Msg #27620 Dated 10:48:10 12-05-91 27605 <--> 27645
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Thanks. The prospect/client loves everything we do - it is just gonna
take some magic to get 'em off their dime.
Msg #27621 Dated 10:49:24 12-05-91 27610 <--> 27625
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: U-MATIC CASSETTES
Uh, er, Marv -- YOUR fax number had NOTHING to do with the outfits I
listed. Your fax number is in a list in the back of the issue. I'm
going to fax you the page it is on.
Msg #27622 Dated 11:07:57 12-05-91 27613 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASSETTS
HA! I just faxed A SHEET OF CARBON PAPER to Marvin!
Msg #27625 Dated 12:00:48 12-05-91 27621 <--> 27626
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: U-MATIC CASSETTES
Yep. You're right. I just OVER-reacted, as I explained on the phone.
Try and make it tomorrow.
Msg #27626 Dated 12:12:20 12-05-91 27625 <--> 27677
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: U-MATIC CASSETTES
Thanks. I'll try to make it to lunch tomorrow, but don't know yet if
it will be possible.
Msg #27628 Dated 14:45:26 12-05-91 27582 <--> 27632
From: EVAN KATZ
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
Glad to be of help, Jerry. USC stands for the University of Southern
California, and the main campus is downtown, off Jefferson, around
Hoover, Vermont, and Figeruoa.
Msg #27631 Dated 15:41:46 12-05-91 27586 <--> 27654
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
You might try ken rosenthal, he has worked with many tourist ILLUSIONS
from a beverage machine that drips up (?) to a full scale dancing
waters. You can find him at the castle. For a picture of hiim turn to
page 443 in the castle walls book, he lives in west LA.
Msg #27632 Dated 15:43:55 12-05-91 27628 <--> 27652
From: MARVIN STERN
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
It's not up to me to correct you, but as I'm the first toa comment.
I think Jerry wanted the location of the Hall of Fame. Even Jerry
knows where USC is.
The check is in the mail.
Msg #27633 Dated 15:47:26 12-05-91 27564 <--> 27649
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
How 'bout if it came out i a packet trick?
Msg #27634 Dated 16:17:10 12-05-91 -> 27680
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LECTURE NOTES
Thank you very much for the lecture notes! You've come up with a lot
of good ideas and material over the years. Do you still lecture?
Msg #27639 Dated 19:11:51 12-05-91 -> 27643
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: ALL
Re: DOOGIE
Did any of you catch Doogie Howser, M.D. last night?
Displaying nervous anger as he talked on the
phone to his girlfriend, Wanda, Doogie (Neil Patrick
Harris) executed a perfect springing of the cards from
one hand to the other and a coil roll across his
fingers. Very nicely done.
- Steve Bryant
Msg #27640 Dated 19:39:27 12-05-91 -> 27644
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: DMS
Kevin,
Even though the ads for the DMS are in GENII, by all
means write Joe Stevens and get on his mailing list.
Each of his occasional mailings is, in effect, a slick
glossy magazine-format catalog, containing mostly ads
for his products (props and books and videos to drool
over, many items you won't see advertised elsewhere),
and usually a feature article. The current issue,
which just came out, runs to 68 pages and features an
8-page writeup on Carl Ballantine, with lots of photos.
The address is Stevens Magic Emporium, 3238 East
Douglas, Wichita, KS 67028. I think you'll like it.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #27642 Dated 19:57:12 12-05-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LECTURE NOTES
Hey, Pete!
Hope y'all are having a great time in SLC. Hope you find time to plan
a killer convention!
I got your lecture notes today. Many thanks! Item #8 is a knockout!
Msg #27643 Dated 20:27:14 12-05-91 27639 <-
From: STAN LAKE
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: DOOGIE
I don't watch his show but I was wondering if he ever included magic in
it. I had seen him at the Castle swap meet earlier in the year so I
assumed he was a junior member. I take that back, he was at a Paul
Diamond lecture (it just seemed like a swap meet with all of his stuff
covering the stage!) buying odds and ends. I think I heard or read
somewhere that he is currently the highest paid under 21 star on TV at
the moment. Well, he can certainly afford the finest teachers and
instructions money can buy! I hope he does well, he could set another
good example for magicians.
Msg #27644 Dated 20:34:31 12-05-91 27640 <--> 27650
From: STAN LAKE
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: DMS
Do you receive those mailings free of charge? Is there a minimum
amount of orders to make to entitle you to them? I ordered the
catalogs and some stuff about 8 months ago but I hadn't heard anymore
from them.
Msg #27645 Dated 21:08:54 12-05-91 27620 <--> 27658
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Isn't that always the way it is? Well I'll send positive energy your
way. Doin' lunch tomorrow at the Castle. You???? If so, see ya there.
MIKE.
Msg #27646 Dated 21:31:36 12-05-91 27614 <--> 28877
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAX MAVEN
David,
Very good! You are becomming a world-class punner.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27647 Dated 21:31:40 12-05-91 27615 <--> 27659
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
David,
Is there some unspoken rule that states that Mac people can't
call MAGIC!?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27648 Dated 21:31:45 12-05-91 27616 <--> 27660
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
David,
Interesting messenger they use. Whenever I write, I have to rip
the manuscript out of my clenched hands and send it off after 2
re-writes, or I'll spend the rest of my days re-writing one
story.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27649 Dated 21:31:50 12-05-91 27617 <--> 27673
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
David,
Thanks for the info. I'll give a call.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27650 Dated 21:31:54 12-05-91 27640 <-
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: DMS
Steve,
I most certainly will write. Thanks very much for the
information!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27651 Dated 22:12:09 12-05-91
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: ALL
Re: MAC ATTACK
****************************************************************
.
OME MEET
.
.
.
.
SCOTTY
.
.
THE
.
.
MAGICAL CLOWN
.
!!!!!!!!
.
.
Balloon animals for the kids!!!
.
.special guest:
JAMES HAMILTON
.
.
.
.you can see them via DOWNLOAD at a screen near you!!!!
see files for nearest location!
Msg #27652 Dated 23:08:09 12-05-91 27609 <--> 27653
From: JERRY BURTON
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
Thanks Marvin - Is it worth while to take a tour ? What does it entai
l ?
Msg #27653 Dated 23:08:11 12-05-91 27628 <--> 27655
From: JERRY BURTON
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
Am I missing something ? Why are you giving ME directions to USC -
I was there practically every day for three years ! I wanted to
know where the Magicians Hall of Fame was.
Msg #27654 Dated 23:08:14 12-05-91 27601 <--> 27663
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
I think what you mean is a 2 dimensional surface which gives an appar
ent 3 dimensional image. This is true of reflection holograms (the
common white light hologram used in jewelry etc.). In a transmission
hologram you look through the plate and can't tell whether you are
seeing a real object or a 'virtual' image produced by laser light.
.
A transmission hologram is illuminated from behind, wheras reflection
holograms are illuminated from the front. I know of no way to get a
holographic image to appear in space without an intervening plate or
screen to accept the image. You could have a glass door that 'looked'
like a solid door and when you walk up to it have the projection shut
off revealing the gift shop on the other side. A better effect would
be to project a long hallway and have it shut-off when approached.
Msg #27655 Dated 23:39:16 12-05-91 27653 <--> 27657
From: EVAN KATZ
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
If you went there practically every day for three years, why do you
need directions?
Msg #27658 Dated 23:46:09 12-05-91 27645 <--> 27669
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
I may be able to make it to the Castle for lunch tomorrow. Don't know
yet, but will try.
Msg #27659 Dated 23:47:58 12-05-91 27647 <--> 27674
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
There is absolutely no rule that says that MacPeople (Hmmm.... Soylent
Green by McDonalds?) can't call MAGIC! We welcome any magi, regardless
of the race, creed, color, gender preference or national origin of
their silicon.
Msg #27660 Dated 23:50:48 12-05-91 27648 <--> 27699
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
We have a saying in our shop that no product is ever done, you just
take it away from the author.
Msg #27661 Dated 0:07:57 12-06-91
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: NEW PICS
For those of you who have been wondering what Scott Alcalay looks like,
he has uploaded three pictures:
SAFETY.GIF - Scotty the Magical Clown & the Seat Belt guy.
JAMESCOT.GIF - James Hamilton & Scott Alcalay (sans clown makeup).
SCOTTY.GIF - Scotty the Magical Clown's interesting photo
business card.
The picture viewer, VPIC30.ZIP, that we have available here on MAGIC!
will display these GIFs on MS-DOS machines, as will many other viewing
programs. Viewers are also available for other machines.
Msg #27663 Dated 1:02:34 12-06-91 27601 <--> 27664
From: FRANK ZAK
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Kevin,
I need a door that will vanish when a customer touches it.
Frank
Msg #27664 Dated 1:04:55 12-06-91 27607 <--> 27665
From: FRANK ZAK
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Mike,
I'll be calling you as soon as I have time. The only time I get to read
this is at 1AM.
Frank
Msg #27665 Dated 1:06:54 12-06-91 27611 <--> 27666
From: FRANK ZAK
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
David,
Thanx. I'll try to locate him.
Msg #27666 Dated 1:08:37 12-06-91 27631 <--> 27667
From: FRANK ZAK
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Scott,
Thanks, I'll try to locate him through the castle.
Frank
Msg #27667 Dated 1:33:58 12-06-91 27586 <--> 27668
From: T A WATERS
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Why have the door illusion built? Just use a 3D hologram projection of
a door...
Msg #27668 Dated 1:38:13 12-06-91 27666 <--> 27670
From: T A WATERS
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
My earlier message re holograms was meant as a joke -- the point of the
joke being that a door-sized hologram would probably cost more than the
rest of the shop...
Msg #27669 Dated 7:38:50 12-06-91 27658 <--> 27682
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Hope to see ya there, my friend!
Msg #27670 Dated 7:39:17 12-06-91 27664 <--> 27683
From: MIKE KING
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Look forward to it. Will be doing research at the Magic Castle library
this afternoon. So If you get the machine (answering type) just leave
a message and I'll get right back to you. I check it regularly while
out, so it won't take to long. Talk to ya later. MIKE.
Msg #27671 Dated 15:43:40 12-06-91 27580 <--> 27704
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
I do have work on a way to get rid of the gimmick...
Msg #27672 Dated 15:43:44 12-06-91 27582 <--> 27676
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
It is the S.A.M. Hall of Fame... John Zweers WAS in charge...
otherwise I am sure Maven or Waters will fil you in more accurately.
Msg #27673 Dated 15:43:48 12-06-91 27592 <--> 27675
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
What address? Copperfield? It was posted by Lichtman a few days ago.
Am in SLC... boy there is a lot of Salt on the Ground... even up
on the mountains all around here...
Msg #27674 Dated 15:43:54 12-06-91 27594 <--> 27678
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
OK he is in the next bed!!!! Not snoring yet... argh....
Msg #27675 Dated 15:43:57 12-06-91 27597 <--> 27702
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
There is a great steak place owned by a guy I know slightly... but
I only know how to get there not to tell someone else...
Msg #27676 Dated 15:44:02 12-06-91 27609 <--> 27694
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
You am being to sound like nobody I is ever heard....
Msg #27677 Dated 15:44:05 12-06-91 27610 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: U-MATIC CASSETTES
OK I will not order them from you...
Msg #27678 Dated 15:44:09 12-06-91 27615 <--> 27681
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
He is keeping the MAC in case he can't figure out how to work DOS.
Msg #27680 Dated 15:44:16 12-06-91 27634 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: LECTURE NOTES
I lecturing at Music City Conclave....
Msg #27681 Dated 15:44:19 12-06-91 27647 <--> 27690
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
You bet your sweet apple!!!
Msg #27682 Dated 15:44:23 12-06-91 27658 <--> 27687
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Tabby and I would be there... but trudging through the snow in
Salt Lake City... hitting about 32 Antique shops... books stores,
and tomorrow a gun and old west collectable show... not to mention
the... no... won't mention them.... we will not, repeat WILL NOT
be at the Castle for Lunch tomorow.... either.
Msg #27683 Dated 15:44:30 12-06-91 27667 <--> 27684
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Look up Dr. Pepper's Ghost....
Msg #27684 Dated 15:44:33 12-06-91 27670 <--> 27689
From: PETE BIRO
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Tab and I are here, crying. There were no messages for or about
us.... We may never come back again.... (altho it is tuff to get
a drink here)!
Msg #27686 Dated 19:22:56 12-06-91 -> 27705
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: DMS
I receive the Joe Stevens mailings free of charge. I
don't know what Joe's exact policy is on this. I
seldom buy anything from Joe by mail, not because it
isn't great, but because some of the stuff I really
want is out of my price range. But I have been to 3 of
the last 4 DMSs, and this is probably what keeps me on
the list. I usually buy a bunch of stuff from Joe at
each DMS, but I don't think they are taking names when
I do. (I heartily endorse the DMS, of course.) In the
current issue of GENII, Joe offers 4 catalogs for
$7.50, and he offers a separate video catalog for
$2.50. Probably the best way to get on the list is to
give them a call at (316) 683-9582. I've always found
them to be extremely friendly on the phone.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #27687 Dated 20:05:17 12-06-91 27669 <--> 27688
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Alas, as you already know, business beckonned and I was not able to get
to the Castle for lunch. Sigh... Maybe someday.
Msg #27688 Dated 20:06:06 12-06-91 27682 <--> 27707
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Didn't know it was snowing in SLC. But that doesn't sound like it has
slowed you guys down - antique shops, book stores, gun and old west
collectable show -- I thought you guys were there to WORK.
Msg #27689 Dated 20:09:25 12-06-91 27684 <--> 27693
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
RE: Tab and I are here, crying. No messages.
Er, uh, it was a case of out of modem, out of mind. We fergot you guys
might log in from SLC. We figured you were too busy WORKING.
Msg #27690 Dated 20:11:51 12-06-91 27678 <--> 27698
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
Tell him [Nagel] to call in, regardless of which computer he uses.
MAGIC! speaks both IBM and Mac, not to mention AMIGA, Atari, Radio
Shack, and Synclair.
Msg #27692 Dated 20:32:12 12-06-91 -> 27724
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Tabman -
I hear that you and the Biro is cuttin' quite a swath thru SLC.
Nathan just got a new tape and the jacket reads "Recorded at Tabby
Sound Studios, NY, NY." You know anything about this?
Msg #27693 Dated 23:13:25 12-06-91 27683 <--> 27696
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Don't see how it would work for the door...not a practical door,
anyway.
Msg #27694 Dated 23:15:24 12-06-91 27672 <--> 27703
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
Re the Hall Of Fame -- I have only seen some rather unprepossessing
photos of it; as I am not a member of SAM, haven't been there.
Msg #27695 Dated 23:32:17 12-06-91 -> 27731
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MCGAME
It would appear that a number of people have downloaded Scot Cram's
M-C-Game, either the Basic version, MCGAME.ASC, or the MS-DOS Version,
MCGAME.EXE. No comments?
Msg #27696 Dated 1:14:51 12-07-91 27667 <--> 27697
From: FRANK ZAK
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
How do I get a 3d hologram projection of a door?
Msg #27697 Dated 1:15:58 12-07-91 27668 <--> 27701
From: FRANK ZAK
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Do you have any recommendations?
Msg #27698 Dated 1:17:09 12-07-91 27690 <--> 27710
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
Ah the Sinclair - a great $ 99 computer.
Msg #27699 Dated 1:17:11 12-07-91 27660 <--> 27712
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Same is true of programs & programmers. Unfortunately taking it away
from them too soon can be a real disaster.
Msg #27701 Dated 1:16:34 12-07-91 27670 <--> 27706
From: FRANK ZAK
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Thanks Mike. I'll try to call you sometime this weekend. I'm looking
forward to chatting.
Frank
Msg #27702 Dated 1:17:32 12-07-91 27675 <--> 27727
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
This time of the year Pete that's probably not all salt. It's some
funny stuff they call SNOW. If any of you guys ski take a run for me-
SLC is the all time great place to ski - been there many times. Favor
ite is Snowbird - classiest is Deer Valley - pig-out heaven.
Msg #27703 Dated 1:17:36 12-07-91 27655 <--> 27726
From: JERRY BURTON
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
I don't need directions to USC. You know Evan you should really
consider taking a remedial reading class. Why is it that writer's
can't read and reader's can't write - must be a left brain right
brain thing.
Msg #27704 Dated 1:17:40 12-07-91 27671 <--> 27715
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
Geez Pete, I'm sorry, what gim-ick are you refering to get rid of.
As you know I can't easily go back and look at msg 27580 - have no
idea what we were taliking about.
.
Hope you guys have fun in SLC wish I was there - although if I was
I'd be up the hill doing Bonsai controlled falls AKA skiing. Have to
wait until mid-Jan for a week in Steamboat. Tell Tabman Howdy Bro,
see you all in March if not sooner.
Msg #27705 Dated 1:17:46 12-07-91 27686 <-
From: JERRY BURTON
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: DMS
I'm in the same boat regarding Steven's catalog's, have never
ordered from him direct, but seem to get them anyway - must be from
DMS registration.
Msg #27706 Dated 1:54:15 12-07-91 27684 <--> 27708
From: MIKE KING
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Don't worry, we still love you two big lugs! Hope your having a good
time, even though a dry one.
Msg #27707 Dated 1:55:08 12-07-91 27687 <--> 27723
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Sorry you didn't get to make it. I looked for ya. Maybe you can come
and collect that drink at Merlin's Friday, next week.
Msg #27708 Dated 1:56:21 12-07-91 27701 <--> 27721
From: MIKE KING
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Look forward to it. Will be in and out. Building a new act right now
and editing a commercial I directed. Also am going to help a friend do
a much needed cut on a feature. So don't know when I'll be home. But
leave a message. I check the machine often when I'm out and at the
editing place have a Watts line. Can talk long for cheap...make that
free, so take advantage of the situation. Leave a number, I'll get
back to ya. Looking forward to the chat. MIKE.
Msg #27710 Dated 9:52:37 12-07-91 27698 <--> 28881
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: TABMAN STUFF
Yep - I think I paid less than $99 and, later, I got the RAM extension.
My original goal for it was a portable (early palmtop?) for use when on
the road. Just hook it up to the tele in the room. Keyboard proved
too slow for communications use, even at 300 baud, so I got a Micro
CoCo.
Msg #27712 Dated 9:55:18 12-07-91 27699 <--> 27792
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I believe that Mitch Kapor created Lotus by saying to the programmers
"What is in the box on September 15th _IS_ Lotus 1.0. Whatever you are
working on on the 16th is Release 2." If he hadn't done that, they'd
still be waiting.
Msg #27713 Dated 9:58:34 12-07-91 -> 27714
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: ALL
Re: LUNCH
Johnny Thompson and Tom Mullica were guests at our luncheon yesterday.
Mullica ate enough cigarrettes to send Lorrilard stock up several
points!
'W.
Msg #27714 Dated 10:58:38 12-07-91 27713 <--> 27785
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: LUNCH
Sounds like that was SOME lunch! But I'm curious - do you happen to
know what brand of cigarettes Mullica eats? Or does it depend upon his
mood? You know, maybe Virginia Slims if he's on a diet?
Msg #27715 Dated 13:18:07 12-07-91 27183 <--> 27716
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
I've looked at the tape since then, and you're right, his timing did
seem off...
Msg #27716 Dated 13:18:51 12-07-91 27217 <--> 27728
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
MCGAME should work on the mac. It's simply in ASCII format, which loads
into most basics. It's a text adventure, so it should work with little
or no change. I wrote on an Amiga (I know mac users don't like that
word) using as standard a basic as possible. Hey, once you know how it
works, how about adding digitzied pics on the mac version and upload
it?
Msg #27718 Dated 13:25:38 12-07-91 27167 <--> 27738
From: SCOTT CRAM
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE - THE GAME!
Thanks for the review David, but one thing you missed! You can quit the
game anytime by entering "q" or "Q" for your move! This should get you
out (unless something went wrong)...
Msg #27721 Dated 13:35:12 12-07-91 27697 <--> 27725
From: T A WATERS
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Not really -- in that sort of situation any device would get a lot ;of
wear -- give me some more details on just what you want.
Msg #27723 Dated 15:10:41 12-07-91 27688 <--> 27740
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Bought a KILLER FARO CASEKEEPER A MINUTE AGO.... ARHG....
Msg #27724 Dated 15:10:45 12-07-91 27692 <--> 27741
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Don't know who that CAT is.... tabman just nodden nada... nada...
Msg #27725 Dated 15:10:49 12-07-91 27693 <--> 27737
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
I don't either... but I always have to say something.... arhg.
Msg #27726 Dated 15:10:53 12-07-91 27694 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: MAGICIAN'S HALL OF FAME
I haven't even seen a woodcut of it... nuttin' honey...
Msg #27727 Dated 15:10:57 12-07-91 27702 <--> 27877
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
I don't ski... but have never seen so many good lookin' ladies in
one city in my life...
Msg #27728 Dated 15:11:01 12-07-91 27704 <--> 27736
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
Zombie gimick... there is a clever way to wrap a safety pin aaround
the end of the wire... it stays closed til you finished... then
pop it open and hang it on your back like a hook coin... then
LATER get rid of it...
Msg #27731 Dated 16:01:45 12-07-91 27695 <--> 27743
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MCGAME
I found it to be an interesting game after I got it to work. My sense
of direction inside the Castle isn't what it should be. I would find
myself taking wrong turns and going in circles. Once you get the hang
of it it's an interesting diversion. I don't know if it's possible but
it would be nice to have some sort of a map of the Castle included for
those that are not familiar with the inside.
Msg #27732 Dated 16:27:04 12-07-91 27549 <--> 27744
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SETUP
I think Dick Gustafson used to do some stuff for them. Don't know if it
was him or not, at Smith Corona. But if you ever get a chance to catch
Bill, it will certainly be worth your while. But, like I said, he
hasn't been working for Memorex lately.
Msg #27733 Dated 16:29:10 12-07-91 27571 <--> 27753
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
Are you familiar with any of the Gary Darwin stuff on the tip?
Msg #27735 Dated 16:33:14 12-07-91 -> 27754
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FFFF
Tabman:
Hope you've gotten settled in at your new place. They've found a new
place to have the FFFF convention. So it looks like it will continue to
go on. It won't be the same as having it at Forks (despite it's lack of
glamour), but at least it will still be going. Thought you'd want to
know.
Msg #27736 Dated 17:20:24 12-07-91 27716 <--> 28524
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: HOLIDAYS
Well, If I were a 'puter-tech-nerd, I would but since I use my MAC for
a data base only, I would not know any programming secrets. I can get
things scanned, but you must tell me what you might like.
As to the Mac vs. Amiga vs. PC, Who cares but you tech-nerds.
for refence to last comment read erdinase 3rd edition preface by marlo
and kaufman (grin)
Msg #27737 Dated 0:21:29 12-08-91 27654 <--> 27876
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Jerry,
You are absolutly right. The point I was trying to make was that
I knew of no way for an image to appear in space with no screen
or intervening plate.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27738 Dated 0:27:15 12-08-91 27718 <--> 28527
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT CRAM (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE - THE GAME!
Ah! Either I missed Q for Quit in the "moves summary" or sumptin'. I
tried X for eXit, but never Q for Quit. Anyway, it is an enjoyable
game and I thank you for posting it.
Msg #27740 Dated 0:31:23 12-08-91 27723 <--> 27755
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Congrats on the Faro Casekeeper! Them things is hard to find - yeah,
like you didn't know that!
NOW will you get to work? And don't forget the MAGIC! session when you
schedule stuff!
Msg #27741 Dated 0:32:46 12-08-91 27724 <--> 27756
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
RE: Hey! I don't need an RE:! The message header ACTUALLY matches!
Guess you haven't had a chance to foul this one up yet! Of course, you
will reply to this message and probably describe the pizza in SLC...
Anyway, tell Tab not to worry too much about "Tabby Sound Studios" in
NYC. The lyrics are OK, but as to the rest, OUR Tab could do better in
his sleep.
Msg #27743 Dated 0:54:15 12-08-91 27731 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: MCGAME
There is some talk of adding graphics to Scott's game, so a map is not
an unreasonable request. I don't want to put words into Scott's mouth,
but he seems open to the idea that anyone could add to/enhance the
game.
Msg #27744 Dated 0:55:39 12-08-91 27732 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: SETUP
I think you are right about Dick Gustafson working for Smith Corona.
Not sure, but that sounds right. He seemed to really do a good job of
incorporating the product promotion into his work. Don't think I will
go to this year's CES - maybe next time.
Msg #27750 Dated 8:04:40 12-08-91 -> 27757
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
I am down to my last six hours before my one big show I do each year.
I've been creating, reshaping, building, tearing down and rehearsing
all year for one show which I can only do once- do or die!
In the past it was easier to do because I did not place as much
emphasis on doing a good job of entertaining. I just wanted to survive
without collapsing from stage fright. Since I have been on Magic! my
attitude has changed alot towards my magic and my audience. The result
is I have a much better show which I am also more prepared and
rehearsed to perform. The only problem is like I said it is only ONE
show aimed at a specific audience. I'm going to have it recorded from
two angles to save it- I hope it will be worth saving!
One thousand hours of work is now boiling down to one hour of
performance. Wish me luck, here I go....
Msg #27753 Dated 18:49:08 12-08-91 27733 <--> 29334
From: PETE BIRO
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: TIPS ON THUMB TIPS
I think I have all of Gary D's books... but have not STUDIED them
closely. I do not really use the Thumb Tip very much... Probably
should. The problem is I don't like the BILL SWITCHES AT ALL AS
THEY DON'T FOOL ME ONE BIT... ARE A WASTE OF TIME.
IMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Msg #27754 Dated 18:49:15 12-08-91 27735 <--> 27777
From: PETE BIRO
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: FFFF
TABMAN IS IN THE AIR... I had a 1 1/2 hour sit on the runway out
of Salt Lake City... (Tab's plane was 11 in line behind ours) and
I just got in... and TAB HAS THE FULL SCOOP on the new FFFF as he
had Japanese Food with Obie O'Brien last night in Salt Lake City.
Msg #27755 Dated 18:49:20 12-08-91 27740 <--> 27769
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
What MAGIC! SESSION? OK here is your big chance.... set up a
TRAIN TO SALT LAKE CITY.... get the Magic Castle and all the others
to go... The train (Union Pacific) is just a few blocks from the
Convention HQ...
You could all train it to Vegas, stopover, see Lance and others
then zip back to Union Plaza (where the trains go in and out of
Vegas) and onto Salt Lake city...
Magic and fun all the way....... GO FOR IT.......
Msg #27756 Dated 18:49:30 12-08-91 27741 <--> 27770
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
We did see the Domino Pizza delivery guy - several times - go thru
the Lobby past the dining rooms (2) and up the elevators. In SLC,
that is.... See other messages for our travel screw up today. Back
up radar at SLC airport was the bug... argh...
.
Boring flight coming in tho... but hey, the Bay Area was beautiful
when I landed... NO SMOG... no traffic... no sweat...
.
Will be postin' some good stuff soon.
Msg #27757 Dated 18:49:40 12-08-91 27750 <--> 27759
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
All the best Stan... it WILL BE GOOD...
.
Just to note... the Comic/owner of the Comedy Club in the Marriott
Hotel, Salt Lake City (where the IBM WILL BE) does an impression
of David Copperfield being pulled over by a cop for a speeding
violation... funny. Funny... Best thing is... comics are now
referring to DC and the public knows who 'tis!
.,
Next version of flying is said to include a huge "trained" bird
that flies away with DC.... hmmmmm
.
Could make a great SCI FI plot!!!
Msg #27758 Dated 18:49:53 12-08-91 -> 27778
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRAVEL
Ee;27750
YO... Tabman... I think that was you (TWA) about 11 back of my
plane on the runway... what a rotten drag... 1 1/2-hours out there
going 1.3 mph!!!
.
Got home and the Raiders lost by 3 points! KRUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMS.
.
Did see Albo on the sidelines....
.
All is good, just heated up some pasta and am about to slide into
oblivion... too bad all the tall blondes didn't come back with us!
.
at least the wine here is not going to give me the same headache
as the house Chardonay... Thanks for all your help. All will be
good for Music City... don't forget to post all the info. on the
FFFF, and especially the new gathering... FFFFF ;+)
.
OH.... wood part of the NEW Casekeeper is MUCH FINER and better
made, style, etc. than the one I have here... BUT THE CARDS are
the SAME... so it IS a MASON... Tempted to pull the wood apart and
swap the cards from the plain wood to the fancy cut newer (OLDER?)
one... will look see if it unscrews and can just be swapped.
.
boy would that be KOOL.... adios El Dude... gotta call the Walker!
Msg #27759 Dated 18:50:18 12-08-91 27750 <--> 27760
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
STan, of course you will give us an UNBIASED REVUE...HEHEHEHEHEH
.
Anything, other than, "I killed 'em" will not be acceptable!
Msg #27760 Dated 21:00:37 12-08-91 27750 <--> 27763
From: MIKE KING
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Good Luck, Stan!!!! Break a leg! I wouldn't worry so much. It sounds
to me that you have the perfect attitude. If you just concentrate on
"entertaining". Everything will go well. It took me years to realize
that it's the entertaining that counts, not how much magic or how
difficult the magic is I was performing. I, for one, am sure you will
be great. Here's positive energy your way. MIKE.
Msg #27761 Dated 21:13:39 12-08-91 -> 27766
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: YO BRO
Just got back to Rancho DeCarlo and am bushed but wanted to say
hey. Will type more tomorrow am sure but am fixing to sign on and
let you know am back. Sorry Raidres din't make it today.
Msg #27762 Dated 21:13:44 12-08-91 -> 27772
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: FORKERS NEW DIGS
Spent some time with head forker, Obie OBrien over past few days
at IBM Convention planning meeting and he tells me that it's
definate. The Fechter's Finger Flinging Frolics is leaving the
Forks Hotel after 21 successful years there and moving to a new
and much improved location in Lackawanna, New York just six miles
from exit 53 (if you been, you know the exit). The invites for
the 22nd annual FFFF are at the printers and will be mailed by
the end of the year. I'll tell you more tomorrow, but the new
location sounds GREAT!!!
Msg #27763 Dated 20:53:59 12-08-91 27759 <--> 27764
From: STAN LAKE
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Regarding my show for the Post Office:
Why is it I always head straight for the liquor cabinet after one of
these? Overall it went very well although my nerves are a bit frayed.
The crowd was about 200 from infant to just this side of senile. My
mission that I chose to accept was to put together a show that would be
entertaining for the youngsters as well as the oldsters with a Postal
theme. I opened with a six envelope repeat. Just like the six card
repeat only the story is I am putting up all this mail to deliver but
I just don't seem to be getting anywhere. It ends up it was just a bad
dream as all of the envelopes disappear. That got me off to a great
start, they really liked that. Then I did a torn and restored type
trick using a certain Postal form familiar to all of the carriers. It
is the one we use to request help when we have too much mail to deliver
in 8 hours. As the story goes, the boss rips it up but I have him sign
one corner and I then restore the form authorizing me the help I
wanted. Next story took me into a pizza parlour for lunch where I
ordered a root beer and the bartender misunderstands me and pours me a
beer. The boss catches me but I make the beer vanish. These first
three tricks all had Postal stories which all of the carriers could
relate to but were visual enough that the kids could follow along as
well. Most of the balance of the show was filled with stock type items
but again most of them had a Postal story tied to them. The only
problem I encountered which is just one of those things, was my closing
routine. I did the Dukes Dyeversion you recommended some time back.
One of the kids I chose looked bright and enthusiastic and eager to come
up on stage but as soon as he did he froze and couldn't speak above a
whisper. He couldn't answer a question or anything, the poor guy just
had a glazed expression on his face. When the 24 feet of silk was
finally stretched out another kid in the front row WITH CHOCOLATE CAKE
ALL OVER HIS FACE AND HANDS GRABBED THE SILK AND WIPED HIS FACE ON IT!!
ARgh! (tm Biro) I couldn't very well punt the little angel out the
window and it's really my fault for not keeping better control. Oh
well, live and learn. Since this was a one shot show my only other
disappointment was my friend with his high resolution camera didn't
show up to film it. All I got was my crummy standard 8mm video cam
taping the show from the back of the room. I've already viewed the
tape and I sure would like a new camera! Anyway, as always it was a
good learning experience but I don't think I'll do another custom show
for them again. Maybe next time I will just go table to table and do
close-up for something different.
Msg #27764 Dated 21:24:00 12-08-91 27760 <--> 27765
From: STAN LAKE
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Thanks Mike- I'm sure that positive energy you flowed my way helped.
After recovering from opening line amnesia it went very well. Several
people made very favorable comments which was very heartening. See my
message to Pete (#27663 I think) for a more complete report.
Msg #27765 Dated 21:33:21 12-08-91 27763 <--> 27768
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Sounded ok to me... if you did some schtick WITH the kid who messed u
the silk, rather than be upset or seem worried about it then it was
OK... I remember having gotten some kids up that were too young and you
just have to do it A LOT to figure the right ones... IT IS NOT EASY
and when you do a once a year... it is like Opening Night... and
Broadway show producers NEVER OPEN in town... always test and practice
for out of town small audiences... So.. don't worry... keep at it.
Msg #27766 Dated 21:35:27 12-08-91 27761 <--> 27771
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: YO BRO
Did you get stuck in air traffic? I taped the wrong network... sorry
dude...
Msg #27768 Dated 22:56:22 12-08-91 27763 <--> 27821
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Stan - it sounds like you did a GREAT JOB! I'm sure that despite your
current "I'm not doing it again" attitude, you will be in a better mood
to make that decision as the year progresses. The really good part is
that it sounds like you are out there doing "the real thing" rather
than "here's Stan with another couple of card tricks."
Sorry to hear about the camera situation - glad you had two scheduled
and not just one!
I don't know what your friend's high res. camera is, but if you want to
think about the top of the line, look at the Canon A-1 Digital or the
Canon L-1.
Msg #27769 Dated 23:01:23 12-08-91 27755 <--> 27781
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Hmmmm..... MAGIC! In Training! An INTERESTING idea! But I don't know
if I have the chance or time to do it. MAYBE SOMEONE (ANYONE!) ON HERE
WOULD LIKE TO HELP ACT AS A COMMITTEE CHAIR? If there is a volunteer,
PLEASE let me know either public or private mail! A train from Los
Angeles to Vegas to SLC would be GREAT!
As to your other "item" - I could swear I'd been told there would be a
MAGIC! session at IBM.
Msg #27770 Dated 23:04:29 12-08-91 27756 <--> 27776
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Glad you made it home OK. My brain is FRIED tonight. I was on the
road at 6 a.m. for a meeting down in Orange County. Worked all day and
am totally done in.
Msg #27771 Dated 23:06:21 12-08-91 27761 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: YO BRO
Good to have both you and the Biro back in home ports. Hope all went
well in SLC.
Msg #27772 Dated 23:07:17 12-08-91 27762 <--> 27782
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FORKERS NEW DIGS
REALLY glad to hear that the FFFF will be going on. Pity about the old
place, but if the spirit moves with the group, it will be as good as
always.
Msg #27776 Dated 7:30:28 12-09-91 27692 <--> 27779
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
I knew I shoulda tm the name Tabby years ago, oh well. Now I know
how some of the others feel. Yeah, we got a lot of work done and
I have a sore foot from all the walking we did looking at antique
stores, junk shops, etc. SLC is a very interesting city and I know
that all those who come over there for the IBM conv will have a
good time, especially those with families as it is a family
oriented place......
Msg #27777 Dated 7:30:35 12-09-91 27735 <--> 29335
From: TABBY CRABB
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: FFFF
Hi Harrison:
Hope things are well with you. Sorry I missed you guys at CEMK this
year but I was moving (I'm not finished yet). I spent a couple of
days with Obie, et al, in SLC past few days. Obie tells me that he
put a deposit on ABBOTT SQ. BREWERY PUB on Abbott Road in Lackawanna
and he sez it is 10,000% better than the Forks. Happy Holidays to
ya'll.
tabman
Msg #27778 Dated 7:30:43 12-09-91 27758 <--> 27780
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRAVEL
I wondered if that was you at the front of the line when we got on
the taxi way. Radar was dead they sed and had to space the take offs
out. Re: all the big blonds in SLC......yowsuh, though there was the
big red at the comedy club that I liked. Anyway, how about Johnny
Biscuit???? A funny dude, no? Hope we can get him to MC the comedy
club shows in 92. I thought the casekeeper looked like a Mason
due to the curve on the end and the dovetail work. Should come apart
with a screwdriver!!!
Msg #27779 Dated 7:56:34 12-09-91 27776 <--> 27804
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
R "tabman"(R) "Tabman" ritaway
Msg #27780 Dated 7:57:33 12-09-91 27778 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRAVEL
Yeh, but the wood is about a 32-inch longer in the "card" section. I
just stacked it into the display with something overlapping one side to
cover the "restored" part... no problemo... see message soon here on my
revised sked (Music City still ON).... no argh there....
Msg #27781 Dated 7:58:44 12-09-91 27769 <--> 27805
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
I am sure there will be... we need to catch Wells as HE IS THE
SKIEDULER.... he should be home by now....
.
funny... he is EVERYBODY that counts skieduolerator...
Msg #27782 Dated 7:58:50 12-09-91 27772 <--> 27806
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FORKERS NEW DIGS
Obie is very enthusiastic about the new venue for the FFFFFFFFFF
gathering... he drew a map for me showing the layout... it is a
killer sports bar club type place and the big man there is also
a magiciano!
.
Get the CHOO CHOO going fun seekers!! Big fun for all in SLC...
Great hotel and the Capitol Theater is a turn of the Century
house "hemp house" that has been fully restored beyond new!!!
.
They got the newest of new sound ($ 500K worth) and the seats are
on a polished hardwood floor... clean as a train whistle (hint)...
.
We are working like blazes to get some booking of acts not seen
ever at a major convention.... stay tuned....
Msg #27785 Dated 9:20:36 12-09-91 27714 <--> 27808
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LUNCH
Tom prefers good-ol' plain, unfiltered, Lucky Strike.
L.S.M.F.T. ... and, don't forget..."It's Toasted".
'W.
Msg #27787 Dated 9:50:17 12-09-91 27283 <--> 27788
From: BILL WELLS
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: HOTKEY
I have DOS 5.0, but have never checked out the editor. Having now
-seen your recommendation, I will do so. It is kinda funny, but
everyone seems to have their favorite editors, some like the share-
ware ones like SLED, and Blackbeard, while many use EDLIN for much
of what they need to do.
Msg #27788 Dated 9:50:33 12-09-91 27285 <--> 27798
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOTKEY
Evan has said much the same about the DOS 5.0 exditor. I will look
at it the next time I have a chance. The PE that I am describing is
definitely a WordPerfect product. It uses the same commands as the
parent program.
Msg #27789 Dated 9:50:45 12-09-91 27289 <--> 27790
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
That is an excellent thought regarding design of icons by the younger
users. Particularly so on programs they would be using such as games
and educational programs. I find many of the icons not very
informative for the unknowning users.
Msg #27790 Dated 9:50:57 12-09-91 27290 <--> 27799
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
WordStar was bundled with my first "real" computer, a Sanyo MBC 550.
I struggled with all those codes for awhile, but then gave up and
used Easywriter which was also bundled with the machine. The first
time I loaded up Wordperfect (Ver 3, I think), I started using it
immediately! I have WP for Windows, but haven't had a chance to use
it yet. I certainly hope they have made WordStar a lot easier to use
than those early versions I tried.
Msg #27791 Dated 9:51:16 12-09-91 27292 <--> 27793
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: JAPAN
Of course the Tabman can make up his own mind, but that doesn't
preclude a bit of friendly urging to make sure he makes up his mind
the correct way! However, this is all a moot point. He told me in
SLC this past weekend that he is fully committed to being at the 1992
DMS.
Msg #27792 Dated 9:51:31 12-09-91 27293 <--> 27814
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Mein Gott! Do you include anything other than sugar and chocolate in
your diet? Anyhow it would seem to me that you have a excellent
supply of incentives to offer folks.
Msg #27793 Dated 9:51:42 12-09-91 27296 <--> 27802
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: JAPAN
I didn't get back to you before Wednesday, but the bag of lichen you
brought was great and very much appreciated by the urchins upon my
return home least evening. It was great seeing you in SLC and I hope
you had a safe trip back to N'town. Tell Glo we missed her and hope
she can come with you next July.
Msg #27795 Dated 9:52:06 12-09-91 27299 <--> 27831
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
What was the FOURTH tape? I can only remember three. Rebecca, Waco,
and the crazy guy with the balloon head.
Msg #27797 Dated 9:52:27 12-09-91 27302 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FROGS IN MAGIC
No...I didn't "forget" Bruce Cervon on my list.
Msg #27798 Dated 9:52:32 12-09-91 27303 <--> 27801
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOTKEY
First rule of changed your autoexec.bat or config.sys is to make a
back up copy of your old ones before you change it.
Msg #27799 Dated 9:52:41 12-09-91 27305 <--> 27810
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I am surprised you haven't had to add memory if you are using Word-
Perfect 5.1 and the latest version of Ventura. Many of the newer
versions of programs are designed to use that extra memory. You migh
t want to check it out. You can get 4 megs of RAM for less than
$200 around here.
Msg #27801 Dated 9:53:14 12-09-91 27312 <--> 27809
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOTKEY
I will check the files for the Maxam Ring illuision, but I don't
recall having it.
Msg #27802 Dated 9:53:22 12-09-91 27313 <--> 27813
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: JAPAN
The Winter Carnival of Magic is always in Gatlinburg, Tennessee.
Msg #27804 Dated 10:30:14 12-09-91 27776 <--> 27820
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
I'm glad to hear that all went well in SLC and I hope your foot feels
better soon. Always wise to check out the junk shops in a different
berg, especially one with history.
I'm looking forward to the IBM convention in SLC. I think it is gonna
be great!
Msg #27805 Dated 10:34:07 12-09-91 27781 <--> 27879
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
RE: Wells being the skieduolerator.
Funny, my skieduol is kept on the side of the refridgerolator. Only
place in the place that we allow magnets. But yeah, I know what you
mean about Wells. If somethin' is happenin' in organized magic, it is
on his list and he is trackin' it. Don't know what the world would
look like without him - but it would be pretty bleak.
Msg #27806 Dated 10:37:10 12-09-91 27782 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FORKERS NEW DIGS
This MAGIC! in Training idea is VERY appealing! If we can put it
together. Maybe even get some of the global folks to fly to L.A.
instead of straight to SLC and do what you suggested - an evening at
the Magic Castle, train to Vegas for one or two nights and then on to
SLC. A MAGIC! tour of America! Gotta figure out a way to look into
it. Wonder if DC still has that dining car? Maybe we just hook it up
and use it.
Msg #27808 Dated 10:46:52 12-09-91 27785 <--> 27826
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: LUNCH
Mullica is an OK dude. I'm kinda glad to hear that he isn't doin' it
with Camels.
Msg #27809 Dated 10:53:50 12-09-91 27788 <--> 27828
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOTKEY
Hmmmm..... Is funny - I've got WordPerfect and never found no "PE."
Just looked again at my installed 5.1 and Windows versions and can't
find anything like that. Oh well. Key is that wordprocessors and text
editors are a personal thing - you like one and not another. One of my
famous quotes - "Wordprocessors are like toothbrushes - they weren't
meant to be shared."
Msg #27810 Dated 10:56:27 12-09-91 27789 <--> 27812
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
Icon proliferation seems to be the trend. Funny, but it would probably
be good to have a "Help Icon" dictionary. You select the icon and hit
define and it comes up with a display of "aka" icons.
Msg #27811 Dated 11:15:53 12-09-91 -> 27815
From: MARVIN STERN
To: ALL
Re: ADDAMS FAMILY
New issue of People Mag has a nice article on Christopher Hart, his
background and Addams Family.
Msg #27812 Dated 11:30:24 12-09-91 27790 <--> 27818
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
Argh! (tm - Biro). Again, we are getting far afield with the "techy"
side of things. But I never found WordPerfect easier to use than
WordStar. I was one of the last people on Earth to start using
WordStar - for years I prided myself on my never having used it, then
had to turn to it one day and discovered that it was reasonably
comfortable. WordPerfect offers next to no guidance on its use. It
comes up with a blank screen and just sits there. The "reveal codes"
bit drove me nuts and the fact that they never refer to the keys by
their right name. There is an F7 key on my keyboard, there is NO
"Exit" key. But all the docs refer to the "Exit" key as if it existed.
When I wrote "Teach Yourself WordPerfect" I took the bold step of
refering to the keys by their keyboard designations. I think we
finally compromised and used both forms throughout the training
program.
I guess it is like the decision to perform a bill switch that uses a
thumb tip or one that doesn't. You can get good at either.
Msg #27813 Dated 11:37:34 12-09-91 27791 <--> 27819
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: JAPAN
Methinks that we are leading the Tabman down the path of sin and
degredation. I am, however, delighted to learn that he will be at DMS.
Great as DMS is, it is considerably enhanced by his presence.
Msg #27814 Dated 11:39:38 12-09-91 27792 <--> 27840
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Since my message, the supply of malted milk balls has decreased by
2-1/4 pounds, there is about 1 pound less chocolate covered raisins,
about 7 less Twixt bars and a number of M&M's have gone to M&M heaven.
Most of these feats have been accomplished single-handedly, although
Nathan has helped with the M&M's.
As to my diet, yes, I DO have other things than just sugar and
chocolate in it - I also drink a lot of coffee.
Msg #27815 Dated 11:44:29 12-09-91 27811 <--> 27824
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: ADDAMS FAMILY
Thanks for the People info, Marvin. It is appreciated.
Msg #27817 Dated 16:02:06 12-09-91 -> 27841
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
I was always interested in provactive, interesting and catching mailing
pieces.....I came across this in Don Lawton's, LINES FROM LAWTON.......
ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
I am intersted in this sort of item....great for promos.
Msg #27818 Dated 16:05:27 12-09-91 27790 <--> 27834
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I bought two Sanyos. An MBC-550 and an MBC-555. I sold the 550 and
Bone Pony is using the 555 with the addition of the Sanyo video
board and an extra 128k to build their mailing lists in PC-File.
Msg #27819 Dated 16:05:31 12-09-91 27793 <--> 27829
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: JAPAN
Am glad the lichen was good for the youngsters project. Lemme kno
if you need another gallon. Great working with ya'll this past
weekend also. Me thinks the SLC convention will be a sleeper and one
the attendees will talk about for some time. The contest area looks
good and the Capitol Theatre is a beauty am lookin 4ward to getting
backstage. Safe trip indeed. Trust yours was the same!!!
Msg #27820 Dated 16:05:37 12-09-91 27804 <--> 27837
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
The MAGIC! session is skeduled in on Thursdday at 4 to 6 pm. SLC is
a great city for junk shops and antiques. One place had the doors
from Lloyds of London for sale. Looking 4ward to seeing you!!
Msg #27821 Dated 16:06:59 12-09-91 27768 <--> 27822
From: STAN LAKE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
When I said I would not do another one of those shows again I was
talking about a "customized" show. I built it from scratch but it is
only good for that one audience. I suppose I could go on the road and
do it for other Post Offices but that's really not practical. I would
rather put the same amount of time and energy into a show that I could
perform for various different crowds. One that I could do over and
over and hone it into something really good. That's why I thought of
doing the close-up magic from table to table. If I had four or five
routines assembled I could stroll around and do more or less at each
table according to the response I got. I'm looking forward to seeing
Jim Sisti's Magic Menu for some info on that.
Msg #27822 Dated 16:28:08 12-09-91 27764 <--> 27843
From: MIKE KING
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Glad me energy did some good. I, like most magicians, want nothing
more than their fellows brothers and sisters of deception to go forth
and be entertaining. Happy it went well. Good job!!! I knew you had
it in you. Talk soon. MIKE.
Msg #27824 Dated 16:32:56 12-09-91 27811 <-
From: MIKE KING
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: ADDAMS FAMILY
Thanks for the tip, Marvin. How'd your weekend go. Well I hope. Hi
to all, see ya soon. MIKE.
Msg #27825 Dated 16:57:24 12-09-91 -> 27848
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OLE
Grand OLE Opry it 'tis.... tanks fo du fax man...
Msg #27826 Dated 16:57:53 12-09-91 27785 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: LUNCH
Not to mention, "Lucky Strike's RED Has Gone to War!" L.S.M.F.T. =
Loose Straps Mean Floppy T**s?
Msg #27828 Dated 16:58:00 12-09-91 27787 <--> 27833
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOTKEY
Sam Edlin?
Msg #27829 Dated 16:58:03 12-09-91 27791 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: JAPAN
Only because Lennert Green asked him to come?
Msg #27831 Dated 16:58:09 12-09-91 27795 <--> 32683
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: PK LECTURE
The fourth? No remember mussa been a tuypooo
Msg #27833 Dated 16:58:16 12-09-91 27798 <--> 27836
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOTKEY
I know... I have some called AUTOEXEC.BAK, but don't ever plan on
changing anything no mo...
Just finished Optimizing all my disk drives... now will do a full
back up on tape again tonite...
Msg #27834 Dated 16:58:22 12-09-91 27799 <--> 27839
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I have 640K of regular mem and 1.4 meg of Expanded Mem... so all
is just fine (I guess). I also use Mark and Release when I go into
Ventura so when I get out it releases all the available memory.
.
Before I had that I couln't (for what reason I don't know) exit
Ventura and then open WP 5.1.
.
But I can now. Wrote a couple of BAT files to do it. Just a pair
of keystrokes. I'm not as dumb as I was before... I've lost weight.
Msg #27836 Dated 16:58:37 12-09-91 27801 <--> 27838
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOTKEY
According to T A there IS one in the Castle files, but he don't
think it will copy good.
.
TODAY... YOU DIRTY RAT.... i have spent almost all day, changing
the chapters, inventorying the files and EATING.
Msg #27837 Dated 16:58:44 12-09-91 27804 <--> 27864
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
As long as you take the train!!!
Msg #27838 Dated 16:58:47 12-09-91 27809 <--> 27867
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOTKEY
I only find a FE "file editor" kinda thing in my WP 5.1... duh
Msg #27839 Dated 16:58:50 12-09-91 27812 <--> 27842
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
No, it is impossible to get good with a thumb tip bill switch!
IMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Msg #27840 Dated 16:58:53 12-09-91 27814 <--> 27868
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
i HOPE you also eat lots of bran and use Metamucil!
Msg #27841 Dated 16:58:56 12-09-91 27817 <--> 27846
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
NOEL, spelled backwards is LEON. I have an acquaintance named
Larry Noel that named his kid LEON NOEL.
.
Mean man.
.
Can you PRONOUNCE the alfabet? I used to read so many sheets of
type styles with the alfabet on 'em I decided to learn to pronounce
it as a series of words. Here goes (Phone Net Ickly)...
.
AB KUDIFF JICKLE MNO PUKER STUV WICK SEEZ
.
Aren't you gladd you rang?
Msg #27842 Dated 16:59:09 12-09-91 27818 <--> 27849
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I kud never figger out how to use PC-File. Tsk. I use File Express.
Msg #27843 Dated 16:59:12 12-09-91 27821 <--> 27866
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Stan... build a 15 minute (or less) "ACT"... USE WHAT YOU HAVE,
but don't stick to the Postal talk... be generic and as topical
as possible. It will serve you well. Be believable, be sincere
and be "light" with the premise...
Msg #27846 Dated 20:10:11 12-09-91 27841 <--> 27855
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Yes...I love this stuff...it makes the greatest promo material...
Msg #27848 Dated 20:14:18 12-09-91 27825 <--> 27858
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OLE
I was on CIS trying to respond and the system kept locking up.
Dunno why, but I decided to FAX IT instead of screwing with Compu
Serve. Yowsuh!!
Msg #27849 Dated 20:14:23 12-09-91 27842 <--> 27859
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
Am using File Express on the "big" machine wid the lazer printer
and PC-File on Sanyo and running a convert on the stuff. File Exp
lets me set up and print laser printer labels. You gave me copy of
File Exp. Thanks!!
Msg #27855 Dated 21:56:00 12-09-91 27841 <--> 27856
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Hey now PETE!
You must have been listening to the _Big Bird Sings_ album from
Sesame Street. That was one of the major segments _I_ always looked
forward to on that show!
Msg #27856 Dated 21:58:36 12-09-91 27817 <--> 27857
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
In Don's greeting, I believe that he left a space where the "L" was
supposed to be, also, Have you seen the greetins with the international
symble for "NO this or that" (circle with line connecting at the one
o'clock and seven o'clock points) over the letter "L". the greetings
is "NO L" get it |:-) !!!!!you back in town???? if so say HI to my
cousin DON for me. Thanks-----
Msg #27857 Dated 22:35:45 12-09-91 27846 <--> 27860
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Howzit goin' Geno... are you around for awhile or heading back to
the Rising Sun?
Msg #27858 Dated 22:35:49 12-09-91 27848 <--> 27901
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OLE
Grand Ole System, Dude... man, been typing on the BOOK ... ALL DAY
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG... AND ME BACK IS TARRED!
Msg #27859 Dated 22:35:53 12-09-91 27849 <--> 27863
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
i THOUT SO...
Msg #27860 Dated 22:35:56 12-09-91 27855 <--> 27861
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
HONEST NO.... I was "pronouncing" the alphabet in the 50s... long
before (I THINK) Sesame Street or maybe even TV was invented!
Msg #27861 Dated 23:10:45 12-09-91 27841 <--> 27862
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
RE: LEON NOEL
There was a stripper named NOEL TOY. My Uncle used to call her
CHANUKAH TZATZKE.
Msg #27862 Dated 23:12:02 12-09-91 27861 <--> 27870
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
RE: CHANUKAH TZATZKE
(Chanukah Toy)
Msg #27863 Dated 23:13:51 12-09-91 27839 <--> 27888
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
RE: Impossible thumb tip bill switch:
PIFFLE!
Msg #27864 Dated 23:15:24 12-09-91 27820 <--> 27865
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Thanks for the info! 4 to 6 on Thursday (will anyone be there?) sounds
like a good time of day. Guess I'll have to go in a day early and
check out the junk shops.
Msg #27865 Dated 23:16:29 12-09-91 27837 <--> 27889
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
I'd really appreciate it if you would help me organize this MAGIC!
Train bit. I know nada about doing it.
Msg #27866 Dated 23:17:28 12-09-91 27821 <--> 27891
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Yes, I understand about the customized nature of the Post Office show.
Still, you are apparently their top entertainer and they really go for
the custom material. Seems to me that they should let you take the act
on the road - boost morale in post offices all over the country.
I guess everyone has their cup of tea, but I find table hopping magic
to be very hard work! It is close-up work with the added difficulty of
having to be portable and do it again and again, and requires different
routines for adjoining tables. In my book, hardest would be walk
around magic, next is table hopping.
Msg #27867 Dated 23:23:08 12-09-91 27838 <--> 27873
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOTKEY
RE: FE - "File Editor".
Don't worry about it. The hot ticket for text editors (NOT to be
confused with word processors) now is the DOS 5.0 EDIT.
Msg #27868 Dated 23:24:57 12-09-91 27840 <--> 27875
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Actually, I rather do like oat bran - it just tastes good. But I don't
get much of it. I don't think I have arteries any more.
Msg #27870 Dated 23:25:39 12-09-91 27857 <--> 27885
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
I will be in Las Vegas for the next two days, then I will be going to
LA for a couple of Christmas Parties. I was invited to two Beverly
Hills parties, of which I was at one last year.......A chance for some
fun magic.....This one client usually brings in three or four acts at
his home on Sunset Blvd., about one block from the house that he Arab
decorated very strange, a few years ago.
Can't wait for Tennessee....this should be fun.....house'bout u?
Msg #27873 Dated 0:09:12 12-10-91 27787 <--> 27892
From: EVAN KATZ
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: HOTKEY
People using EDLIN? The last time I tried that, I didn't reemerge from
my office for four hours.
Msg #27875 Dated 0:14:03 12-10-91 27712 <--> 27881
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Unfortunately that logic has produced some real disasters. Digital
Research used a similiar approach when they relesed MPM - what a
mess.
Msg #27876 Dated 0:50:25 12-10-91 27663 <--> 28136
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: HOLOGRAMS
Frank,
Have you considered LCDs? They could be rigged to show one
thing, and then change when touched. The next best thing would
be a mirror-maze that would give a true 3-D effect, and baffle
the hello out of potential customers.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27877 Dated 0:50:31 12-10-91 27673 <--> 27878
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
The address I needed was for reservations for the Desert Magic
Seminar. I have it now though, so don't worry.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27878 Dated 0:50:36 12-10-91 27675 <--> 27896
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
Well, when do you want to get together for steaks at your sorta
friend's steakhouse?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27879 Dated 0:50:41 12-10-91 27769 <--> 27882
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
David,
Well, the last thing went so well, that how could I help but
volunteer. Well, I'll volunteer to check out the feasability of
it anyway, and see what the other members have to say. Fair
nuff?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27881 Dated 1:01:02 12-10-91 27875 <--> 27893
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
There are some phases of development where a deadline can be very
useful. Getting paid is one of them.
Msg #27882 Dated 1:01:59 12-10-91 27879 <--> 27898
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC! The idea of a MAGIC! Train to Vegas and on to
IBM in SLC is stunning - we could have a great time! I'm sure we can
get Biro to serve on the committee.
Msg #27885 Dated 1:09:17 12-10-91 27870 <--> 27887
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Hey! If you is gonna be in L.A. and have a little time, give me a call
(818-899-8812 during "normal business hours"). Would love a chance to
get together with you.
Msg #27887 Dated 9:01:06 12-10-91 27861 <--> 27894
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Did she reply?
Msg #27888 Dated 9:01:09 12-10-91 27863 <--> 27906
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
OK here is the challenge. You do the Bill Switch with a thumbtip;
and I will do a bill switch another way... we will enter these
performances in the Comedy Challenge at the Desert Seminar...
Hey... we might win $10,000 between us...
.
Let the Games Begin!
Msg #27889 Dated 9:01:16 12-10-91 27864 <--> 27890
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
4 to 6 Thursday ... WHERE? Are you going someplace I don't know
about? Bring your tips.
Msg #27890 Dated 9:01:20 12-10-91 27865 <--> 27902
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
OK. First the Engine, then the coal car, then the passenger cars,
which should be in this order: Club Car, Dining Car, Close Up car,
Stage Car, Sleeping Car and Caboose.
.
Copperfield called and said he would loan us his vanishing car, if
anyone knows where it went.
Msg #27891 Dated 9:01:28 12-10-91 27866 <--> 27910
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Walk around and Table Hopping should be the easiest. You don't need
large stuff... just a few impromptu type effects.
.
You want hard?
.
Walk on stage with 2,500 folks out there and keep 'em smilin' and
laffin' for 17 minutes!
.
I find the most difficult the big stage... but when you are rollin'
there is nothing like it... Try Trade shows.... 8 hours of standing
and working with chatter that is being monitored by the bosses all
day long. But what saves me in all of this is knowing my bill switch
with the thumb tip will always be there ready if I need it.
Msg #27892 Dated 9:01:42 12-10-91 27867 <--> 27895
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: HOTKEY
I prefer NC (Norton Commander F4 function).
Msg #27893 Dated 9:01:44 12-10-91 27868 <--> 27911
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I know, your blood circulates "outside" of your body. A good place
to store spare corpuscles is in a thumb tip.
Msg #27894 Dated 9:01:48 12-10-91 27870 <--> 27900
From: PETE BIRO
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Nashville will be more fun than you realize... we can go to the
Grand Ole Opry, Opryland Museum, and best of all the David Price
Collection is there!!!!!!!!!!! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Msg #27895 Dated 9:01:53 12-10-91 27873 <--> 27943
From: PETE BIRO
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: HOTKEY
Yeh, EDLIN is no fun at all. I don't think I could get back into
it at all... don't remember the commands.
Msg #27896 Dated 9:01:57 12-10-91 27877 <--> 27897
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Well, then see you there, right?
Msg #27897 Dated 9:02:00 12-10-91 27878 <--> 27967
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Usually when I am there on the 4th of July weekend covering the
HDRA Fireworks 250 desert auto race. However... this year they
have scheduled it the same day as the final day of the IBM Conven-
tion in Salt Lake City... so I will fly in from SLC in the morning
and shoot the pix that afternoon (if the plane doesn't mess up)...
and will be too tired and too late for the restaurant. The race
runs late into the night and we have loads of junque food out on
the site...
.
The place is up on Main about 2-3 miles past the freeway (you exit
at the world's largest MacDonalds). Belongs to an ex partner of a
friend of mine. My friend owns 2 or 3 car dealerships. Fairway
Ford in Placentia, Fairview Ford in San Berdoo and a Toyota store
somewhere? He is not poor. The restaurant guy just got tired of
the car biz.
Msg #27898 Dated 9:02:15 12-10-91 27879 <--> 27966
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Uh, does this have anything to do with Allan Ackerman? Or is the
title of this message there just for fun. Are you using IMP!
(aka Rdmagic)? If so... when changing subject use "E" instead of "R"
for new message threads... ;+)
Msg #27899 Dated 9:02:21 12-10-91 -> 27912
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: NO ALLAN ACKERMAN
Ee;27882
I will serve on the "welcome" committee when you hit SLC... I would
go on the train, except being one of the Poobah's "IN CHARGE", I is
gots to be there a few days in advance. You see, those of us that
put on these things have to get all the rooms ready, vacuum, tuck
in the blankets, empty the thumb tips... hey, some five dollar
bills are left in 'em... and put up the signs directing the Lumpkins
around the wonderful hotel and mall.
Actually, I will be checking on the Choo choo routing and skeds
this next few days... Adios muchachozzzzzz
Msg #27900 Dated 9:02:34 12-10-91 27885 <--> 27904
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Normal Business hours? 8 ayem to 7 ayam? Hah....
Msg #27901 Dated 9:52:20 12-10-91 27858 <--> 27915
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OLE
Thanks to all yore great friends, that book is really coming
together.
Msg #27902 Dated 9:52:23 12-10-91 27864 <--> 27907
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
By all means, come in a day early and print up some more lecture
notes.
Msg #27904 Dated 13:24:47 12-10-91 27887 <--> 27905
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
RE: Chanukah Tzatzke
Did she reply? She almost married him!
Msg #27905 Dated 13:25:26 12-10-91 27900 <--> 27917
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
RE: Normal business hours
I honestly prefer to receive calls only between the hours of 9 a.m. and
about 8 p.m. NEVER after 9 p.m. I am up later, but others are not.
Msg #27906 Dated 13:26:53 12-10-91 27888 <--> 27918
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
We can't enter the comedy challenge with just one effect, can we? Or
are we entering as a team and playing off against one another?
Msg #27907 Dated 13:27:52 12-10-91 27889 <--> 27908
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
RE: 4 to 6 Thursday.
Sheesh! Biro! Don't you read the messages? 4 to 6 on Thursday is the
MAGIC! session at IBM-SLC! As to bringing tips, there will be plenty
of tips, hints and techniques offered during the session. Also, I've
promised (remember?) to do an "overhead projector trick" for the MAGIC!
session at DMS. If it goes well there, I may do it again for the IBM
session.
Msg #27908 Dated 13:31:53 12-10-91 27890 <--> 27909
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
RE: Engine, coal car, club car, dining car, close up car, stage car,
sleeping car and caboose.
If we're gonna do it, why not do it Castle style? Engine, club car,
coal car, club car, dining car, club car, close up car, club car, stage
car, club car, sleeping car, club car, caboose.
Msg #27909 Dated 13:33:27 12-10-91 27902 <--> 27916
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Uh, er, this time I hope to ARRIVE with the lecuture notes DONE PRIOR
to the convention!
Msg #27910 Dated 13:34:23 12-10-91 27891 <--> 27921
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
I think you are right about trade show work - harder than walk around
or table hopping. I don't do big stage but I would have no trouble, if
I was so inclined, keeping 2,500 folks goin' for 17 minutes. To me,
that would be easier than the trade show stuff. Besides, on a big
stage they can never see my thumb tip during the bill switch.
Msg #27911 Dated 13:36:46 12-10-91 27893 <--> 27922
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Arteries are for whimps. As to storing spare corpuscles in a thumb
tip, you are close to right - a good hint: never use colored nail
polish on both your finger and toe nails because if you keel over, the
EMT's won't be able to check your nail beds for signs of shock.
Msg #27912 Dated 13:42:23 12-10-91 27899 <--> 27923
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NO ALLAN ACKERMAN
I didn't say you had to be on the train, just that I needed your help
in putting the "cheeepo but goooodo" MAGIC! Train together. I do
TRAINING, not _training_. Used to have 800-Training as my phone
number, but first call I ever got was a guy wanting to know the fare
from Boston to New York and it got worse after that.
Msg #27915 Dated 15:05:16 12-10-91 27901 <--> 27933
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OLE
Just got of the ameche with Seabrooke in London... he has the
actual engineering drawings of the FIRST locking key, plus the
manuscript of WHY AND HOW etc. from George Armstrong in the very
early days of English magic. He is bringing it to the Castle next
month (I will be there covering the Stadium race). He feels it is
too valuable to mail.
.
Yepoo... mit out offendi's no nuttin be hapnin'
.
Seabrooke sed, "I am doing 3 of 5 TV comedy specials soon, will be
on Prime Time 8 pm Wed nite on the BBC"... wowzooooooooooks.
.
John Fisher is producing. Paul Daniels has taped his Xmas special
and has a new series set for 1992... all is good...
.
U red it heer first folks....
Msg #27916 Dated 15:05:32 12-10-91 27902 <--> 27919
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
U meen Lich is comin on down to M City? Argh...
Msg #27917 Dated 15:05:35 12-10-91 27904 <--> 27945
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Zounds good tome.......... i gess
Msg #27918 Dated 15:05:38 12-10-91 27906 <--> 27926
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
Team... NO way Jose... I am goin to Lick Lickman... eheheheh
Msg #27919 Dated 15:05:41 12-10-91 27907 <--> 27920
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
I know... just checkin on you all, dude man...
Msg #27920 Dated 15:05:44 12-10-91 27908 <--> 27930
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
I assume Club Car is not the Elks, but the BARCAR? Heheheheehe
Msg #27921 Dated 15:05:47 12-10-91 27910 <--> 27941
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
They won't be able to tell one bill from another either dude...
Hah... I just inventoried all my thumb tips... funny, none of them
look like me?
Msg #27922 Dated 15:05:52 12-10-91 27911 <--> 27944
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
I don't have beds for my nails. I let em sleep with me tho....
Msg #27923 Dated 15:05:54 12-10-91 27912 <--> 27959
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NO ALLAN ACKERMAN
How much was the fare? No... jus kiddin... Had krummy day to day...
think I is getting a cold... argh... mo booze... mo booze...
.
Maby Leno will cheer me up tonite...
Msg #27924 Dated 15:06:00 12-10-91 -> 27927
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: WHIT
Ee;27912
HAY ALL.... ANY BODY KNOW A PHONE NR. FOR WHIT HAYDN? need to
get in tuch mit he.... thanques.... (providing I get a positive
answer).
Msg #27925 Dated 15:06:07 12-10-91 -> 27940
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: LOGIN
Ee;27912
Jer, need I send you a floppy with my unzipped program on it to
figger out why it won't woik? Lemme know... i wood like to get it
going. Lichtman likes my noo spell cheker.
Msg #27926 Dated 15:11:24 12-10-91 27906 <--> 27953
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
May I suggest that if you and Pete do a comedy routine, that you wear
you know what, and let him wear pink pants and green shirt.
Msg #27927 Dated 15:15:11 12-10-91 27924 <--> 27960
From: MARVIN STERN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHIT
If he says YES, and gets hired, do I get a 10% agent fee.
Anyhow his number is (213) 546-4474.
Msg #27930 Dated 17:47:42 12-10-91 27907 <--> 27931
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
My suggestion would be to video tape an actual MAGIC! session and
replay it on video at DMS and IBM!!
Msg #27931 Dated 17:47:46 12-10-91 27908 <--> 27932
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
What is the caboose doing on a passenger train?? Carrying your
extra props?
Msg #27932 Dated 17:47:50 12-10-91 27909 <--> 27934
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
I wanna get one of those binder machines like you had at IBM
Balto and the Hotel DeCarlo. Where do I get one and how much was
it??
Msg #27933 Dated 17:47:54 12-10-91 27915 <--> 27982
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: OLE
Gadzooks Peteman, you is uncovering all sorts of really good stuff.
Perhaps you should slide compendium into the working title somewhere
along with encyclopedia.
.
Pres of nashville magic club calls me a while ago and there are a
few really serious magician types in town and we are meeting friday
nite to put a weekly magicians lunch together. Am glad that my
moving in here looks like a positive thing for magic in central
tennessee. These are also the guys who wanna help out at the
conclave in January.
Msg #27934 Dated 17:48:04 12-10-91 27916 <--> 27947
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
U meen Lich is comin on down to M City? I wish he was coming but
he hasn't registered yet so don't think so, but will keep a place
reserved for him just in case or maybe put a laptop in a chair for
the Hofzinser Brunchen!!
Msg #27940 Dated 21:00:03 12-10-91 27925 <-
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LOGIN
OK send me a disk mit der ASP files and I'll git them runnin' for
- no sweat.
.
Send to : 10471 S. Brookhurst St.
Anaheim, CA 92804
Msg #27941 Dated 21:00:08 12-10-91 27866 <--> 27942
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Different strokes for different folks - My favorite is walk around,
next table hopping (ala banquets), next parlour and close-up, least
stage (never again will I attempt that - I'm too used to relating to
close encounter reactions).
.
My biggy for the year is this Friday (the 13th) for the Villa Park
Woman's League - will do table hopping for about 300 people. Booked
for an hour and a half. Then to a private party for walk around.
Should be a busy night.
Msg #27942 Dated 21:00:16 12-10-91 27891 <--> 27955
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
I'm with you Pete. I use 3 sets of 3 when I do a banquet with about
five to ten minutes per table. Friday I'm goint to do 30 tables in an
hour and a half so I do about 3 minutes per table and move on.
.
2500 people for 17 minutes - no way Jose. I'll leave that venue to
you and DC - I know my limitations.
Msg #27943 Dated 21:00:21 12-10-91 27892 <--> 27986
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOTKEY
The only problem with the NC editor is its file size limitation.
Other than that I use it every day. Dos 5.0 edit is pretty good too.
Msg #27944 Dated 21:00:23 12-10-91 27922 <--> 27957
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Pete has nail hammocks - he was in the Navy.
Msg #27945 Dated 21:00:25 12-10-91 27917 <--> 27952
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Pete where can I get one o dem neet spell checkrs like youiz usin ?
Msg #27947 Dated 23:04:02 12-10-91 27916 <--> 27948
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Nope - The Frog can't hop that far (M City) in cold weather. Sure
wishes he could, but no dice, er, cab fare, er, whatever.
Msg #27948 Dated 23:05:50 12-10-91 27920 <--> 27949
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
If there was no bar in the clubcar, the Elks wouldn't be there! Nor
the Moose, nor the Woodsmen of the World.
Msg #27949 Dated 23:06:32 12-10-91 27930 <--> 27950
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Interesting idea, Tab! Maybe the video shows 5-6 magi gathered around
a MAGIC! screen goin' "Oh! Wow! I don't believe it! Another thumb tip
trick!" You know, stuff that would capture the crowd's interest.
If'n I had one of those fancy computer screens for an overhead
projector (big bucks!) - we could run MAGIC! on a computer there in the
hall (no dial up - a "clone") and show 'em what it looks like.
I'll keep thinkin' on a way to do it. Thanks for the suggestion.
Msg #27950 Dated 23:09:24 12-10-91 27931 <--> 27951
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Biro (tm - Argh!) threw the caboose on his train, so I left it there.
I figured he had some diabolical purpose for it. Either that, or he
was gonna vanish it to attach to DC's dining car.
Msg #27951 Dated 23:10:28 12-10-91 27932 <--> 27979
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
I got it at "Office Club." I don't know if they are all over the
country or not. It was on sale at the time and the price was
incredible. I don't get down there much (it is a ways away) but if I
do, I'll check on one for you.
Msg #27952 Dated 23:11:43 12-10-91 27917 <--> 27970
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
RE: Chanukah Tzatzke almost marrying my Uncle being a "good tome."
The family _DIDN'T_ think so!
Msg #27953 Dated 23:13:14 12-10-91 27918 <--> 27954
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
You don't really wanna be serious about this Great Bill Switch
Shootout, do you? Doesn't sound to me like somethin' Joe is gonna let
us do.
Msg #27954 Dated 23:14:37 12-10-91 27926 <--> 27977
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I think "I know what" - or at least I _hope_ that you mean green pants
and pink shirt while he wears pink pants and green shirt. We could do
a routine based on exploding golf balls or something.
Msg #27955 Dated 23:15:50 12-10-91 27921 <--> 27956
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Uh, er, for a stage bill switch in front of 2.5K people you use BIG
BILLS, Birosan. Funny, some of my thumb tips DO look like me - maybe
like Jonny Tompson's got hair that looks like a cheap wig, I got a
thumb that looks like cheap plastic?
Msg #27956 Dated 23:18:06 12-10-91 27941 <--> 27985
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Walk around would make me too nervous. I'd rather be up on stage if it
came to that.
Msg #27957 Dated 23:20:08 12-10-91 27922 <--> 27958
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
RE: Nail Beds
Cute, Pete, cute. Er, maybe just a small cute - you know, a cuticle?
Msg #27958 Dated 23:22:21 12-10-91 27944 <--> 27973
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Yeah, I guess if he'd been in the Army he would have had nail cots.
Msg #27959 Dated 23:23:44 12-10-91 27923 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NO ALLAN ACKERMAN
Sorry to hear that you is feelin' poorly - or, at least that you were
at around 3 p.m. on Tuesday. Hope you are better today.
I spent part of the day fightin' with a drive problem on one of
Nathan's computers. Wasn't too happy about it and began to wonder why
I ever got close to computers in the first place. I shoulda gone into
some other line of work.
Msg #27960 Dated 23:26:13 12-10-91 27927 <--> 27978
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHIT
Remind Whit to get back on MAGIC! We miss him around here!
Msg #27966 Dated 0:05:09 12-11-91 27882 <--> 27969
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
David,
If you could give me the approximate dates, I'll gind out fares,
and whatever arrangements need to made.
Thanks.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27967 Dated 0:05:14 12-11-91 27896 <--> 27968
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
I sure hope to see you there, but if not, there's always
Barstow....
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27968 Dated 0:05:19 12-11-91 27897 <--> 28001
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Pete,
Now it's my turn to make a correction. (Okay, a piddly, little,
no-one-cares correction, but what the hey.) Barstow McDonalds
has lost the title as the world's largest McDonalds. They are
now eclipsed by the Moscow Mickey D's.
Maybe we'll make the restraunt some other time.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27969 Dated 0:05:24 12-11-91 27898 <--> 28000
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ALLAN ACKERMAN
Pete,
I thought that you enjoyed the extra mental exercise of trying to
figure out what in God's name a message like this one has to do
with the message header.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #27970 Dated 0:10:32 12-11-91 27860 <--> 27971
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Yeah sure! Before TV????? only Dai Vernon and Fred Catiller can be that
old!!! When you gonna come into Carlita's to catch my work??? Also,
have you heard of the Mansion Hotel in SF???
Msg #27971 Dated 2:24:14 12-11-91 27885 <--> 27972
From: GENO MUNARI
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
I fell asleep last night while writing a message to you. Rdmagic had
a giant carriage return.........I have your brochure and I promise i
t will go in the mail tommorrow......
Hope all is well with you.....
Msg #27972 Dated 2:24:23 12-11-91 27894 <--> 27988
From: GENO MUNARI
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
Pete, I'm not familiar with the Price Collection......Is that by
chance the Vincent Price art collection?
Can't wait to go and sing country music....."I'd Take You To the
Barnyard Dance, But You Would Probally Give ME the Same Old Stall"
Catch up with yoy later...
Msg #27973 Dated 2:24:34 12-11-91 27875 <--> 27987
From: GENO MUNARI
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Jerry, what prey tell is MPM? Is it something like MSG.
Msg #27974 Dated 2:24:39 12-11-91 -> 28004
From: GENO MUNARI
To: E
Re: ALL
The messages are starting to sound like Carnie talk?
Msg #27977 Dated 8:12:30 12-11-91 27926 <--> 27995
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
What color shoes?
Msg #27978 Dated 8:12:33 12-11-91 27927 <--> 27999
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: WHIT
Whit sed yep, but the copyright holder sed NO.... darn....
Lets see the copyright is 1976 -- when does it run out?
Msg #27979 Dated 8:12:37 12-11-91 27930 <--> 27980
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Even with the spelling the way it can beee?
Msg #27980 Dated 8:12:40 12-11-91 27931 <--> 27981
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Right dude, luggage car is full of techie stuff so props in ze
KaBooce!
Msg #27981 Dated 8:12:43 12-11-91 27932 <--> 27983
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
YOU GET ONE OF THOSE AND YOU ARE DEAD MEAT. CALL 213 437 0341 and
ask for Dale... tell him you want a HEAT BINDING set up. He don't
sell 'em he uses 'em -- tell him I sentcha (he is my pal down there
I stay at his house when in socal)... You will never want comb
binding again when you see the difference! You can make 'em low
cost with plastic or vinyl fake leather look, thin boox, or I have
a 1-inch thick book in leatherette. They are made by GBC company,
mebbe thre is a local rep in Smashville... you can see a demo...
When we discovered this system we bacame famous (the Grand Prix)
for having the coolest looking press books in the land.
Msg #27982 Dated 8:12:55 12-11-91 27933 <--> 28035
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: OLE
All is coming together. Lookin' goooood.... you are the magnet
for the town... yo...
Msg #27983 Dated 8:12:58 12-11-91 27934 <--> 27990
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Oh, hey I don't wanna forgeat the Hofzinser trick I told you about
that I have (the prop) OH>.. dale just called they changed the area
code in Long Beach from 213 to 310...
.
He told me the company Xmas party is the 20th and will be at the
Comedy and Magic Club! Hah...
Msg #27985 Dated 8:13:10 12-11-91 27942 <--> 27997
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Ok, make it 1500 people. Actually MINE FAVORITE is comedy club
with about 300. The E A S I E S T was when I worked in a Nevada
(Reno) Review show... 14 minutes, killer site lines in a casino
showroom and the AUDIENCES are a piece of cake!
.
and you know the sound is good, the lights will be great the
cues right on... ALL PRO CREW... and what you need you got!
Msg #27986 Dated 8:13:18 12-11-91 27943 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: HOTKEY
I know, once in awhile a file is toooooooooo big to read... Tsk.
Generally I use it for minor stuff, like changing a bat file if
I move a file from one drive to another and I have a screen menu
that takes little or no ram that was built that way.
Msg #27987 Dated 8:13:24 12-11-91 27944 <--> 28126
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CRUISES AND TUXEDOS
Was not in Navy... Was in Army (First Division... the Big Red One).
I won a contest once for designing the Official Necktie for the
Army. Funny bit... I sent the design in and forgot about it.
.
Time to be shipped home. Get on boat. Arrive New York. Group of
newspaper people, photogs, etc. greet me as I come down gangplank.
.
They ask, "Are you going to accept the prize now or what?" I said,
"I don't know what you are talking about?" They say, "You just
won a trip to a German Ski Resort for designing a necktie." I said,
"Gee, I doubt it... I just spent 18 months in Germany and am on
my way home to California to be discharged... maybe they'll give
me the money instead!" Story made the papers because they thought
it was funny and it was a slow news day I guess!
.
Newspaper coverage "made 'em send me the money"... hah... I got
25 bucks!
Msg #27988 Dated 8:13:41 12-11-91 27945 <--> 28002
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CLEVER GREETINGS
I got the last one. It is gas powered tho, and you probably won't
want to go to the trouble.
Msg #27990 Dated 8:13:48 12-11-91 27947 <--> 27991
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
For some reeason, in one of your messages I thought your referred
to going to MCity... ok for you...
.
If you have a big enuf and bright enuf thumb tip it will help you
when hitchiking.
Msg #27991 Dated 8:13:55 12-11-91 27948 <--> 27992
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Old joke: "I'm really busy, got a show for the Lions tomorrow,
the Elk Wednesday, and the Moose in Saturday. The followin week my
agent has shows lined up for me to do for people." Tarump!!!!
Msg #27992 Dated 8:14:00 12-11-91 27949 <--> 27993
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Methinks we shood use a laptop and let those gather round that can
see... then push them aside and let more see and so on....
Msg #27993 Dated 8:14:04 12-11-91 27950 <--> 27994
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
Have you seen the Menu on DC's dining car?
Msg #27994 Dated 8:14:07 12-11-91 27951 <--> 28008
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "TABBY SOUND"
What did you get at OFFICE CLUB?
Msg #27995 Dated 8:14:10 12-11-91 27953 <--> 27996
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
We can storm the palace and just take over!!!!!!!
Msg #27996 Dated 8:14:13 12-11-91 27954 <--> 28013
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FISM SHOW
I can do ten minutes with the golf ball that don't roll straight.
Msg #27997 Dated 8:14:15 12-11-91 27955 <--> 27998
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Until you get Salvano's book you don't know how to use a thumb tip.
(Not personal... this message was for ALL, you know ALL SMITTH)
Msg #27998 Dated 8:14:19 12-11-91 27956 <--> 28005
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SIX HOURS TO GO
Walk around you can hide for awhile... on stage, unless the lights
go out you are out there and in the Spotlight... argh?
Msg #27999 Dated 8:14:23 12-11-91 27960 <--> 28016
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: WHIT
He has an Amiga, just moved into a Condo in Redondo.
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