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Msg #31000 Dated 13:31:18 01-08-92 -> 31011
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: CHOO CHOO TRAIN
Not to be a downer, but I really do hope Melinda is getting over the
pain of this experience. She is a neat lady and deserves some "good
stuff" in her life.
Msg #31002 Dated 15:53:05 01-08-92 29565 <-
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: "KID'S DAY"
BY ALL MEANS!!!
'W.
Msg #31003 Dated 15:53:27 01-08-92 29304 <--> 31012
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: MAGIC PARLOR
Thanx, Jerry. Happy New Year to you and yours!
I've been bouncing in and out of town and, thankfully, busy with
several projects lately. If you've still got that milk carton with my
mug on it, call the number and collect the reward!!!
'Wayne.
Msg #31004 Dated 15:55:50 01-08-92 -> 31013
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: HOW...
Scouting around the ol' Gold Country is great fun. Lots to see, do and
discover. There are a few truly fantastic bed & breakfast inns around
the area...and a couple of surprisingly wonderful restaurants, too!
Glad you had a nice Christmas in Forestville....looking forward to
catching up with you next time our paths cross. Give my best to Tab.
'Wayne.
Msg #31005 Dated 16:01:09 01-08-92 30913 <--> 31030
From: WAYNE POWERS
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Congratulations, Kevin!
If you see me around the Castle, please be sure to say "hello!"
Working so enthusiastically to prepare for the audition makes the
rewards of membership that much greater. Congratulations again.
'W.
Msg #31008 Dated 18:41:45 01-08-92 -> 31014
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
Pete wanted me to telll you that he didn't show up here and ask
you where he was, but I actually found him in the airport
switching bills on a meter maid. It cost me plenty to get him
outa the clink, but he is now here at the Nuevo DeCarlo and we
have been laying back and doing a few card tricks and having
dinner.
.
Tomorrow, Charlie and Howie come in and we will have a chili
cookoff. Wish you were here.
.
El Tab
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Msg #31009 Dated 18:42:57 01-08-92 -> 31015
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TEST UPLOAD
I tryed to upload a message and it did not work
Msg #31011 Dated 18:48:50 01-08-92 31000 <--> 31016
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHOO CHOO TRAIN
The Melinda experience was part of Leno's monlougue last night and
he thinks that Rich was just doing his Rob Lowe impression!!
Msg #31012 Dated 18:48:54 01-08-92 31003 <--> 31113
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC PARLOR
Hi Wayne. What projects have you been up to lately.???
Msg #31013 Dated 18:48:56 01-08-92 31004 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: HOW...
Please resend 31004 as it looks garbled on my screen. Pete is
reading over my shoulder tonight and he (we) can't make it out!
Msg #31014 Dated 19:39:53 01-08-92 31008 <--> 31038
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
BOO! HISS! You didn't tell me there would be no chili cookoff or I
woulda come to Nuevo DeCarlo!
Seriously -- I miss you guys and I'm gonna hate myself for missing the
Music City Magic Conclave. But life is like that sometimes. I need
the time to work on my bill switch.
Msg #31015 Dated 19:41:27 01-08-92 31009 <--> 31018
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: TEST UPLOAD
May I delete the message that didn't work?
Msg #31016 Dated 19:42:04 01-08-92 31011 <--> 31022
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: CHOO CHOO TRAIN
What I find terrible is the cynicism in Rich labeling the tape "Lust
For Life." He would have better PR if he had labeled it "Beauty and
the Beast."
Msg #31018 Dated 19:50:18 01-08-92 31015 <--> 31021
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TEST UPLOAD
Go for it!
Msg #31021 Dated 22:33:36 01-08-92 31018 <--> 31115
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Ssop)
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: TEST UPLOAD
It's done. The messy message is gone.
Msg #31022 Dated 22:43:41 01-08-92 31016 <--> 31027
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHOO CHOO TRAIN
I guess now he's labeling his tape "Home Alone."
Msg #31027 Dated 23:27:36 01-08-92 31022 <--> 31065
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: CHOO CHOO TRAIN
Yeah, probably home alone, watching "Dangerous Liaisons."
Msg #31030 Dated 3:15:20 01-09-92 -> 31033
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Mike,
I am enjoying a wonderful outpouring of good wishes from the
members of this board. Thank you very much for yours.
Maybe some one of these days we can get together at a Friday
lunch. I don't know how often I'm going to make it to L.A., but
hope this will give me an opportunity to meet you and some of the
other people from the other side of the monitor.
Thanks again.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31032 Dated 3:15:34 01-09-92 -> 31067
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: URI GELLER
David,
The first time I did community theatre (and met my wife in the
process) I was AMAZED at the amount of time it consumed. I had
no idea the work that went into even a small production. But I
would recommend everyone to try it at least once.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31033 Dated 3:15:40 01-09-92 31005 <--> 31050
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Wayne,
What keeps amazing me is the number of people I'm encountering
who have tried and failed at the castle. If someone doesn't make
it the first time, that is not a failure. It is the people who
have tried once or twice, and given up. Perhaps a metaphor for
life can be drawn from all this, but not by me, and not now.
Thank you for the good wishes, and yes, the work that went into
creating the routine certainly adds to my elation now. If I see
you, I will certainly say "hi" and even buy you a drink if you
are so inclined. Thanks again!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31034 Dated 4:58:38 01-09-92 30945 <--> 31093
From: FRANK ZAK
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MANSION MAGIC
Scott,
The next time you are speaking with Bill Okal, please tell him that
Frank Zak from Vegas said hello. Bill and I go back many years to that
little Hotel in Buffalo called the Forks. I would really appreciate you
sending my regards along to him.
Thanx,
Frank
Msg #31036 Dated 7:16:38 01-09-92
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHORTENED MSG
Jest cause I typoed 'em doesn't mean I don't no what they look like!
Msg #31038 Dated 7:20:55 01-09-92 31008 <--> 31066
From: BILL WELLS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
For a second there, I thought you said you and Pete were "laying track"
and I really got excited!
Msg #31040 Dated 7:26:43 01-09-92 -> 31070
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ELMSLEY COUNT
It certainly doesn't sound as if you are in any position to practice
safe magic if your 'rubber' TT has a slit in it.
Msg #31041 Dated 7:26:51 01-09-92 -> 31094
From: BILL WELLS
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: NEW BOOKS
Max - would you be kind enough to share with us your choices of the
1991 magic books which you consider to the be the best? Time
permitting, I would be most interested in your list of the best magic
books published in the last four years as well. Thanks!
Msg #31042 Dated 7:27:04 01-09-92 -> 31071
From: BILL WELLS
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: NEGATIVE CARDS
I will be in Vegas for the Desert Magic Seminar in March along with
David, Pete, Tabby, and many of the other MAGIC! gang. I hope you
will stop by the Trop and say "hello".
Msg #31043 Dated 7:27:14 01-09-92 -> 31072
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILLS
Pete...thanks for the Billion Dollar Bill manuscript FAX...as we
discussed on the phone...our thoughts ran along similar paths in
divising a solution to one of the problems common to the two
different effects we were working on. Happen to visit York and
Sheets and managed to work them into a discussion of the Bill Switch
using Klause's book as a vehicle (Scotty has done mucho work on the
switch) I then did your BDB switch and BLEW both Scotty and Bob
away!! Know that I fooled 'em as I wouldn't tip and they got ticked
at me. Great fun! Thanks for sharing it. El Sysopo shouldn't even
bother to show up for the Great Tip Off showdown.
Msg #31044 Dated 7:27:40 01-09-92 -> 31046
From: BILL WELLS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: GOODBYE PIG
Pig masks, noses, and other assorted swine or hog apparel is readily
available in the Washington, D.C. area. The Redskins offensive line
is known as the "Hogs" and fans in great numbers wear pig snouts and
other such things to games. There is even a trio of guys who dress
somewhat in drag and have front row fifty yard line seats who are
locally known as the "Hogettes". All wear pig snouts. As the
Redskins near their upcoming Super Bowl victory, such items become
all the more available.
I am sure you would also find such things in whatever town the
Arkansas Razorbacks reside.
Msg #31045 Dated 7:28:05 01-09-92 30730 <--> 31152
From: BILL WELLS
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: SKI CONDITIONS IN ASPEN/S
Doc...
Could we be looking at a repeat of the Redskin/Bronco Super
Bowl of a few years ago?
Msg #31046 Dated 7:28:15 01-09-92 -> 31073
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GOODBYE PIG
See my earlier message to Jerry...the Redskins offensive line is
known as the "Hogs" and pig paraphernalia in plentiful in this area.
Msg #31049 Dated 8:31:30 01-09-92 -> 31091
From: RANDY EATON
To: ALL
Re: STARTING OVER
Ok, Here's one to scratch the collective noggin about. Imagine that you
had it all to do over. What effects and/or training would you learn
first and why. Is there something that you didn't learn early that you
wished you did?
.
Actually, I guess this would fall under the catagory of what would you
teach someone that was interested in magic. I'm curious.
.
Randy
Msg #31050 Dated 8:40:19 01-09-92 -> 31052
From: PHILIP HOPBELL
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
That's good. I like Eugene Burger's broken then restored thread routine
(I think it is called Gypsy Thread) in which he tells the story of
creation, it is a very gentle and wonderful effect that when done
without the story just seems dumb (and I don't mean silent).
Msg #31052 Dated 9:27:07 01-09-92 -> 31059
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
I always KNEW we were Wonderful people. Argh? YO! Etc... Gladyou
made it foist try... nuttin' like being a member (of anything!!)
Too bad we all can't be here at the Tabman Country Home... ahah..
the smell of Bacon and Grits is filtering up here into the
conservatory... must put down the books and feed!
Msg #31053 Dated 9:27:14 01-09-92
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: JARROW
Holland is NOT the capital of Denmark. It is a suberb. (I am only
half Danish)...
Msg #31054 Dated 9:27:18 01-09-92 30937 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: ALLAN HAYDEN
I have Card Sharp on duty somewhere... if I remember when I get
home will look see if there is an address in it... Try Byron
Walker also... he has almost every book ever printed.
Msg #31055 Dated 9:27:22 01-09-92 -> 31082
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE
I did, dude... Doc is cool, we worked on some stuff together last
couple of days...
Msg #31056 Dated 9:27:26 01-09-92 -> 31057
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: 1991
Got to break loose.. and hpe I can recover the latest message
base... the bacon is ready... Hope theys' got lotsa grits...
Msg #31057 Dated 9:27:30 01-09-92 -> 31058
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: 1991
Nothing beats finding stuff on the "Want List"... right now we
are waiting for Howie S. and Charlie Randall to fly in... mainly
because there are several large cartons of rare books he had
shipped here to Tabman Villa... to be sold during the conclave.
Hopefully, while we are scarfing down the Chili... he will give
me a preview of the contentes... can't let the customers have first
shot!!!! ARgh...
Msg #31058 Dated 9:27:38 01-09-92 -> 31083
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: 1991
Yu forgot Penn and Geller!
Msg #31059 Dated 9:27:41 01-09-92 -> 31060
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Be careful who you kiss...
Msg #31060 Dated 9:27:44 01-09-92 -> 31068
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Frankly, if it is self-working SO WHAT? They all require "handling"
timing skill, etc... In a way, for example, the Chop Cup is self
working (the magnet holds the ball) but still needs a skilled
performer to make it a good trick.
Msg #31061 Dated 9:27:50 01-09-92 -> 31258
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: COVEN?
If the wind is in the right direction... a PILE of Prestidigitators
would be acceptable. ;+) A Waggle of Wonderworkers. A list of
Lumpkins? A plethora of performers... I kwit.
Msg #31065 Dated 9:28:07 01-09-92 31000 <--> 31085
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHOO CHOO TRAIN
Too bad Leno didn't call her by name... he just said, "A female
magician is suiing Rich Little....."
Msg #31066 Dated 9:28:11 01-09-92 31014 <--> 31069
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
I doubt if a daily workout will give you enough time to "catch up"
as you only have until mid-March !!!
Msg #31067 Dated 9:28:15 01-09-92 31032 <--> 31076
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: URI GELLER
BOY DID YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT HERE.... "I had no idea the work that
went into even a small production".... NOW IF A MAGICIAN WOULD WORK
THAT HARD!!!!! (those that do succeed... Copperfield, Burton, etc).
Msg #31068 Dated 9:28:19 01-09-92 31033 <--> 31074
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Take Wayne to the Argentine Steak House!!! Heheheheheh....
Waiter named "Goucho Marx?"
Msg #31069 Dated 9:28:23 01-09-92 31038 <--> 31079
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
I get your "train" of thought, dude...
Msg #31070 Dated 9:28:26 01-09-92 31040 <--> 31080
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ELMSLEY COUNT
Wearing a thumb tip is like going to bed with someone and ou are
wearing cheap shoes!
Msg #31071 Dated 9:28:29 01-09-92 31042 <--> 31125
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: NEGATIVE CARDS
Say more than Hello... say "HOW DO I REGISTER!"
Msg #31072 Dated 9:28:32 01-09-92 31043 <--> 31262
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILLS
The amazing thing about the BDB trick is once you figure out the
opening move the rest is automatic. The second switch even keeps
fooling me when I do it... I forget I have already switched and
a couple of times have switched the bills one time too many.
Msg #31073 Dated 9:28:38 01-09-92 31044 <--> 31116
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: GOODBYE PIG
I hope they get all they can out of the HOG stuff. The Raiders will
rule next year... did you see in USAToday that RAIDER JACKETS AND
HATS account for 24 percent of ALL NFL souvenir sales nation wide!
Msg #31074 Dated 10:06:31 01-09-92 31050 <--> 31075
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PHILIP HOPBELL (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
I too like Burger's handling of Gypsy Thread. I like his style and I
think it encapsulates a lot of what magic means to me. It works
because Burger can totally evoke the personna that makes it meaningful.
That seems to be the real key - the magic is not in the tricks, it is
in the magician.
Msg #31075 Dated 10:11:14 01-09-92 31059 <--> 31090
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
RE: Be careful who you kiss -- I said "could have," NOT "did!" I do
have some standards, you know. Besides, I have to be VERY CAREFUL
about that stuff -- remember, there are legends about what kissing can
do to me.
Have you met Gloria? Or does it just so happen that this week she is
off on a shoot in Nova Scotia?
Msg #31076 Dated 10:15:07 01-09-92 31032 <--> 31112
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: URI GELLER
Yeah, maybe when I become Sysop Emeritus of MAGIC! I'll have time to
try community theater!
Msg #31079 Dated 10:25:57 01-09-92 31066 <--> 31097
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
I know I only have until mid-March. But you keep hassling me about
this and I may just stuff YOU into a thumb tip!
Msg #31080 Dated 10:27:33 01-09-92 31040 <--> 31261
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ELMSLEY COUNT
Wasn't Houdini the ultimate proponent of safe magic?
Msg #31082 Dated 10:56:40 01-09-92 31055 <--> 31153
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE
OK, thanks for mentioning it to Doc. Hope you guys are having fun at
Nuevo DeCarlo. Hard to figure how you could be doing otherwise.
Msg #31083 Dated 10:57:58 01-09-92 31057 <--> 31098
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: 1991
Gee, Pete -- Are you SURE those cartons of rare books got there?
Maybe, uh, UPS lost 'em?
Msg #31085 Dated 11:03:07 01-09-92 31065 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHOO CHOO TRAIN
RE: Leno's female magician.
Always interests me how they describe people!
Msg #31089 Dated 12:23:49 01-09-92
From: MIKE KING
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: JUGGLERS
You wanna let me ride along in your suitcase? I have been trying to
get over and see Lance's show for seven months now. Have fun, good
luck at the tables. MIKE.
Msg #31090 Dated 12:25:13 01-09-92 31030 <--> 31095
From: MIKE KING
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Look forward to the magical fellowship. MIKE.
Msg #31091 Dated 12:26:03 01-09-92 31049 <--> 31127
From: MIKE KING
To: RANDY EATON (X)
Re: STARTING OVER
Not enough space to tell you on this BBS. Call me and I'll be happy to
chat with you about the matter. I have recently renewed my activities
in magic after a seven year hiatus. I have about thirty years in study
though and know where to look for what. So call. I'd love to talk.
You can reach me on the "land-line" a(213) 856-5652. MIKE.
Msg #31093 Dated 15:51:12 01-09-92 31034 <--> 31126
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: MANSION MAGIC
sure thing!
Msg #31094 Dated 17:44:28 01-09-92 31041 <--> 31099
From: MAX MAVEN
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: NEW BOOKS
Off the top of my head, here are the books from the past year which
jazzed me the most (in alphabetical order by author):
Eugene Burger - Strange Ceremonies
John Carney - Carneycopia
Michael Close - Workers 2
Alex Elmsley/Stephen Minch - Collected Works
Martin Gardner - Fractal Music, Hypercards and More
Robert Neale - Tricks of the Imagination
Juan Tamariz - Sonata
Michael Weber - Life Savers
I should mention that I have only had the chance to give the new Roger
Klause and Rene Lavand books a cursory look; both seem to be quite
good.
As for books from the past four years, I will name a few which stand
out, but I'm sure I will have forgotten to include several titles (as
I've probably overlooked a couple from 1991 that I'd want to include on
the above list):
Eugene Burger - The Experience of Magic
Stewart James/Lyons & Slaight - The First Fifty Years
Rene Lavand - Slow Motion Magic
Tony Shiels - The Cantrip Codex
Shigeo Takagi/Richard Kaufman - The Amazing Miracles
Juan Tamariz - The Magic Way
Dai Vernon/Stephen Minch - The Vernon Chronicles
Msg #31095 Dated 18:21:19 01-09-92 31074 <--> 31096
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
I knew you would say that. Boy did you miss out... I ate the four
bowls of chili they would have had for you... Burp!!! Nailed
Charlie Randall with the Bill Switch. Howie didn't act fooled, but
did show me a nice way hedid it sans TT...
Msg #31096 Dated 18:21:25 01-09-92 31075 <--> 31102
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Gloria has the protection of 700lbs of Dogs...!!! Darn!!!
Msg #31097 Dated 18:21:28 01-09-92 31079 <--> 31114
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
I will not fit into a thumb tip anymore... too much Chili...ho
I could BLAST my way out tonite. HOwie and Charlie are sleeping up
in the Observatory, I have a room to my self... whew!!! Burp, etc.
Msg #31098 Dated 18:21:32 01-09-92 31083 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: 1991
Tabman and I have first dibs at unpacking the books... har....
Msg #31099 Dated 18:21:35 01-09-92 31094 <--> 31268
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: NEW BOOKS
Don't forget the NEW MAGIC OF JAPAN! And what year was Whit Haydn's
Four Ring routine published??? Pretty good lists max... see you
tomorrow night... Weather here is killergood, butmight rain on the
weekend. NOT COLD ATALL. Ace Palmer at Hotel tonite.. Howie, Tab,
Gloria, me and six large dogs eating and drinking like foolstonite.
Note space bar errors...Scotchdoes that... argh... but fun....
Be ready for the Billion Dollar Bill Trick!!! Wroth every penny!!
Msg #31101 Dated 19:09:48 01-09-92 -> 31128
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Aaugh! Can't stand it that you guys are already there
and having fun. Don't buy all of Randall's books until
I get there. My daughter says, "Dad's not REALLY going
to play country music all the way down there, is he?"
Been listening to Emmylou Harris all week.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #31102 Dated 19:45:54 01-09-92 31095 <--> 31103
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! (tm - Biro as ammended). You have NO IDEA how lonely
I is. I WANNA BE THERE!!! But can't. Gotta go to Borego Springs
again (hope MAGIC! stays up!) to get motohome outta repair.
PPPHHHOOOEEEYYY!!! After two years of only hearing about her (and
hearing her on the phone), I would really love to see Gloria. And the
chili must be SOMETHING ELSE!!! I cut back on heavy duty foods tonite;
substituted a plain pepperoni/sausage/anchovie pizza for my normal
pepperoni/sausage/anchovie/onion/olive/pepper one.
Msg #31103 Dated 19:49:12 01-09-92 31096 <--> 31111
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
I know them dawgs -- give 'em all hugs from me.
Msg #31110 Dated 23:50:15 01-09-92 -> 31121
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE
Congrats - now that you are IN - try to get a hold of Michael Ammars
book and read the essay entitled "In the Men's Hut". It will help
you make it through the next phase of the initiation process.
.
Bizarre.
Msg #31111 Dated 23:50:19 01-09-92 -> 31118
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Self working tricks WELL PRESENTED are OK - tricky sleights done
poorly are not.
.
Its not so much WHAT you do, but HOW you do it !
.
And yes I am - Bizarre.
Msg #31112 Dated 23:50:23 01-09-92 -> 31120
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: URI GELLER
RE: Committed.
You should be !
Msg #31113 Dated 23:50:26 01-09-92 31003 <--> 31831
From: JERRY BURTON
To: WAYNE POWERS (X)
Re: MAGIC PARLOR
Will do - now if Evan Katz and Stan Lake would respond I win a trip
to the Betty Ford rehab center in Omaha to collect my reward.
.
Plan on joining us for the 'pig wake' which should happen sometime
in March - rumor has it the pig is going back to the junkyard, so
we are going to celebrate.
Msg #31114 Dated 23:50:30 01-09-92 31014 <--> 31260
From: JERRY BURTON
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
Have fun guys and don't forget to keep us posted on the fun and games
.
Sure wish I could have made it. I'm heading down to Sedona this weeke
nd for the 11:11 (a planetary window opening) ceremony. Will report
when I get back (If I come back ?? - I may just ascend while I'm
there (G)).
.
Good Luck - I know it will be a fantastic success.
.
Bizarre.
Msg #31115 Dated 23:50:36 01-09-92 31009 <--> 31124
From: JERRY BURTON
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: TEST UPLOAD
It caused a ZMODEM window to appear on my screen while I was capturin
g msgs last night - interesting test to say the least. How did it
get into the msg database ??
Msg #31116 Dated 23:50:39 01-09-92 31073 <--> 31130
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GOODBY PIG
The reason Raider stuff is so popular is that ALL the LA gangs have
made Raider stuff part of their 'uniform'. That makes the 24 % even
more scary !
Msg #31118 Dated 0:32:07 01-10-92 31052 <--> 31119
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
All right, that's it. We're going to gather all of the members
of MAGIC! and invade the Tabman's home. I hope he's got plenty
of grits!
Man, it sounds like you've got the life. Reading until dinner's
on. Envy envy envy envy.
I'm glad things are going well. When are we going to get
reports? I'm thinking of going to see Geno's show on Saturday,
but don't know if he's out Lebanon way, or at home in L.V.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31119 Dated 0:32:14 01-10-92 31060 <--> 31122
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
re: "...if it is self-working SO WHAT?"
Oboy. , now I've got to explain a remark again.
The point I was trying to make is the same point you've been
making as long as I've been on this board.
Yes, it is possible for someone to take a self-working trick and
make it their own. To have an entertainment value far exceeding
anything the trick can generate on its own. But most people
don't. For the average performer (at least the ones I've seen)
they'll take the gizmo, and give, as nearly as possible, the
exact same speel that came with the trick. If the trick doesn't
come with its own shtick, the average performer will duplicate
the SALESMAN's delivery.
Yes, a self-working trick can be incredible. But there is a
drain on originality. If I come up with a self-working trick,
and use it, then I've come up with an effect. If I give you the
same self-working trick, and you modify the trick or the act,
then you've come up with something. Now I'm rambling, so I'll
sign off before I come completely unglued.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31120 Dated 0:32:24 01-10-92 31067 <--> 31123
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: URI GELLER
Pete,
I've been thinking about your comment on how hard magicians work
on their acts. I don't know if you intended to get my cranium
going the way it has, but it's too late now. It's happened.
With community theatre, most of the work (the majority of the
time) has been done before the theatre even thinks about getting
into a production. The play has been written and re-written. It
has been performed for other audiences. A person can go in
knowing what works well and what doesn't. The community theatre
group only has to decide on its interpretation, and then work on
perfecting that interpretation.
My performances are, from what I can tell, much like your's in
that I don't believe in using the exact same words over and over.
I have confidence in my ability to entertain an audience without
having to recite the same lines. I have an outline that I cover,
and take it from there. Now I'm wondering if I'm just too lazy
to get together a "show" or if what I do is a better way for me
to perform.
Geez, the moral dilemmas you cause me.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31121 Dated 0:32:34 01-10-92 31110 <-
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CASTLE
Gulp....next phase?
Enjoy!
Kein
Msg #31122 Dated 0:32:38 01-10-92 31111 <--> 31129
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Jerry,
I agree totally. If I had to choose the number one reason for
those that I talked to getting rejected at the castle, it was
because they tried things over their heads. It is infinitaly
better to do the simplest sleight well, then to do the most
impressive sleight in the world badly. Even if one does the
sleight well, one has to do it so well that one doesn't even have
to think about it. It is amazing how much is conveyed to the
audience. You don't want them thinking, "Gosh, it sure slowed
down here" or "I wonder why he keeps slipping out of contact."
The idea is for them to think "My god! this man can do MAGIC!"
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31123 Dated 1:25:15 01-10-92 31112 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: URI GELLER
Nah, I've always been afraid of too much committment.
Msg #31124 Dated 1:27:04 01-10-92 31115 <--> 31146
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: TEST UPLOAD
It is no longer in the message data base! But the message did contain
some rather interesting codes and characters. We now scan for EOF's
coming into the message base and eliminate them, but the characters
Scott sent should have been "harmless" and, therefore, we don't screen
for them.
Msg #31125 Dated 2:19:01 01-10-92 31042 <--> 31154
From: FRANK ZAK
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: NEGATIVE CARDS
I'm looking forward to it. I helped Joe out with security last year. I
will probably help him this year also.
Msg #31126 Dated 2:20:41 01-10-92 31093 <-
From: FRANK ZAK
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MANSION MAGIC
THANKS!!!
Msg #31127 Dated 2:22:16 01-10-92 31049 <-
From: FRANK ZAK
To: RANDY EATON (X)
Re: STARTING OVER
Randy,
I wish that I would have learned theatre. That would have given me
a push into developing a stand up act. For the last 20 years I have
been doing close-up. For the longest time I was too self concious to
be on stage. That is starting to change since I have been in
Toastmasters.
When I teach magic it is strictly close-up and I strongly stress the
basics.
Frank
Msg #31128 Dated 9:43:37 01-10-92 31101 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
We is in Music City Doo Wah Ditty... OK, will hold off on the
Goldston Locked books... they are tooooo goooood.... YO......
Msg #31129 Dated 9:43:41 01-10-92 31102 <--> 31131
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
The third bowl got me... good thing I had my own room!!!
Msg #31130 Dated 9:43:44 01-10-92 31116 <--> 31263
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: GOODBYE PIG
Up in N. Calif. the schools will not let the kids wear Radier Stuff
as it is a GANG symbol.... argh...
Msg #31131 Dated 9:43:47 01-10-92 31118 <--> 31132
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Geno is on the way here... as is Maven... THE WORLD IS IN MUSIC CITY
Howie was doing card tricks last night until we got the biggest
dog to pick him up and take him outside!!!
Msg #31132 Dated 9:43:52 01-10-92 31119 <--> 31133
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
I understand... wuz just putting the jab on!!! Hey... Invented a
cool deal this morning. I needed a Svengali deck and Howie had one
in his dealer supply... (gave me a slight discount!!) But it was
NOT SET... the cards were not mixed together. So I sed to myself
hey this is good!!!! I can spread the cards and show the mixed half,
keeping the all alike ones at the back... then ONE FARO SHUFFLE AND
THE SVENGALI is ready to go.... A sleight to set a self-working
trick!!! Just the perfect example here...
Msg #31133 Dated 9:59:56 01-10-92 31129 <--> 31134
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
The hospitality at the Nuevo DeCarlo is World renown -- good people,
god dogs, good food, and I hear that the new place has got hot
showers. I'm gonna be gone, starting this afternoon and should be back
sometime Sunday evening. Y'all have the greatest mojo Conclave EVER!
With the line-up up there, that should be NOOOO PROBLEM!
Msg #31134 Dated 10:59:19 01-10-92 31131 <--> 31135
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Pete,
Well, heck! You guys sure planned the conclave badly if you are
going to draw away people when I'm going to see them. You should
have Tabby check with me first from now on.
I wish I were there. Sounds WONDERFUL!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31135 Dated 10:59:24 01-10-92 31132 <--> 31164
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Cool! I never had much use for a Svengali, but your handling
might make it worthwhile. Great idea! I don't know why everyone
doesn't use it already. I guess 'cause it takes a little
practise to do a Faro shuffle.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31144 Dated 20:07:41 01-10-92 -> 31181
From: RICHARD HART
To: ALL
Re: EUREKA
Nifty card trick of the week:
John Bannon's Tattoo You, (from Smoke and Mirrors)
_Skullduggery_ at it's finest!
Msg #31145 Dated 20:55:35 01-10-92
From: DENNIS PIERCE
To: ALL
Re: GENII MAG.'S
I am looking for a copy of Vol. 1, #1.......in fine condition,
please leave a message if you can help me out or can give me some
leads. Thanks Pete for the info on Byron, I received a recent list and
mailed off an order. All well in CT........GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!
Msg #31146 Dated 21:14:57 01-10-92 31115 <-
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: TEST UPLOAD
No Idea!!
Msg #31152 Dated 10:27:51 01-11-92
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: SKI CONDITIONS IN ASPEN/S
Congrats on the baby!!! The Broncos are in town now. Everyone is up for
the game. It should be pretty loud at the stadium.. How's Business?
It's really awful here. It's like banging my head against the wall. The
other TS guys I've talked too also are down. All these lay-offs and
budget cuts are making life a little less easy these days. Of course,
this is "your time" in Aspen. So that's good. Sorry you won't be at
FFFF, but I'm sure we';; run into each other omewhere...
Msg #31153 Dated 10:31:41 01-11-92 -> 31156
From: HARRISON CARROLL
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE
Well, Good Luck... Anxious to here how you made out.
Msg #31156 Dated 13:49:34 01-11-92 31153 <--> 31607
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: MAGIC CASTLE
Harrison,
I made it. Long story somewhere earlier in the board. I'll look
up the message number for you later.
Thanks for the good wishes!
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31159 Dated 19:01:16 01-11-92 -> 31184
From: PHILIP HOPBELL
To: ALL
Re: M A G I C (1:5)
I've been laid up all day with a dumb back injury and so I've read the
entire January ish of M A G I C. WOW -- a great issue!
Excellent essay by Eugene Burger discussing Milbourne Christopher's
History of Magic (particularly Shamanism).The real focus of the piece
is the nature of ritual and myth.
I suppose we will all want to discuss the Janmes Randi interview so I
will just say that I am not impressed with Randi, at all. (I know, Max,
that's James Randi (not"Janmes"). I'm typing this flat on my back.
Philip (not "Phillip")
Msg #31162 Dated 21:08:42 01-11-92 -> 31165
From: DOC EASON
To: ALL
Re: DAVE LEDERMAN'S ADDRESS
Can any one help me with Dave Lederman's adress???
Msg #31163 Dated 21:09:39 01-11-92 -> 31166
From: DOC EASON
To: ALL
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
Had a chance last wednesday night to go to the castle. My old aspen
buddy steve spill was there. working...which was a surprise when i
found out that his mom passed away the week before. I only met her
once and was impressed at what a sweet person that she was. If this is
old news to you la bbs boys sorry but i was shocked and saddened for
steve, sandy and sis.
Richard Turner was astounding. Be on the lookout for a guy named
fitch. Bob Fitch...he'll fool, you badly..
Go Broncos
Msg #31164 Dated 0:37:21 01-12-92 31135 <--> 31167
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
It takes more practice to play the violin.
Msg #31165 Dated 0:37:23 01-12-92 31162 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: DAVE LEDERMAN'S ADDRESS
Bill Wells, I think... has Dave's latest location.
Msg #31166 Dated 0:37:26 01-12-92 31163 <--> 31185
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
I have one of Fitch's books!
Boy is the TABMAN'S CONCLAVE A HIT OR WHAT!!!! TOO GOOD TO REVIEW.
Members of MAGIC! ABOUND... Maven and Biro took no prisoners.
.... Watch out for Lupe... she is KILLER.... I guess you can
say Mike Close was excellent too, as a member (not enuf) of MAGIC!
Time for bed!
Msg #31167 Dated 4:32:40 01-12-92 31164 <--> 31832
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CASTLE AUDITION
Yeah, and you don't see many violin players either.
Folk song society meetings abound with autoharp players.
Enjoy!
Kevin
p.s. Good to see your name again. I thought you'd abandoned us
in favor of the Conclave.
Msg #31168 Dated 5:40:17 01-12-92 -> 31186
From: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN
To: ALL
Re: NEXT COPPERFIELD
MAGIC!-NL Sat 11 Jan 92 16:34
Arnaud Van.Rietschoten posted the following msg:
Does anyone know if already a date is announced when CBS will
'air' the next Copperfield special???
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Msg #31170 Dated 8:47:39 01-12-92 -> 31209
From: DOUG SMITH
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DEM BONES
Dem bones mailed Saturday. Wish we could have had better results. At
least they are good for a smile.
Msg #31174 Dated 19:49:01 01-12-92 -> 31187
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: ALL
Re: NASHVILLE
Thank you thank you thak you (rule of 3) to Tabby
Crabb for the first really great magic weekend of the
year. Hard to believe anyone could put together a
conclave so successful his first time out. Hardly
worth posting a review, as virtually everyone on MAGIC!
seemed to be there, but here are a few quick notes for
David and anyone else who missed it:
BEST MIRACLE: I should have my eyes put out. I have
SEEN the Billion Dollar Bill switch. I BELIEVE.
BEST NEWCOMER: Lupe, from Panama. Fabulous stage
presence and sense of humor. Really a clever, charming
young lady. She will be at the DMS.
MOST INTERESTING LECTURE: Geno Munari's lecture on
gambling cheats. I wish this could have gone on for
hours. Fascinating stuff, all new to me. By the way,
back in 1986, Don Lawton wrote in his column in NEW
LINES FROM LAWTON about what a nice guy Geno is.
Delightful to find out in person how true this is.
NICE TO PUT A FACE TO THE NAME: Neat to meet Jim Sisti.
Also had some clever and really USABLE stuff in his
lecture.
HOTTEST LECTURE: Mike Close! Yeah, the tricks in
WORKERS I AND II are great (I STILL don't understand
the toothpick through bill), but it was Michael's
fabulous interaction with the audience that made this
an evening to remember. He started with a hysterical
practical joke on Johnny Ace Palmer that sucked
everybody in, and built from there. (I'll let Biro or
someone else tip the joke.) Mike, and Max Maven the
next night, had the unenviable job of trying to be
interesting at what was roughly from 1:00 to 3:00 A.M.
my time. Both rose to that challenge magnificently.
PRIVATE TO CHARLIE RANDALL AND RICHARD HATCH: THANKS
for the business!
HOTTEST KID AWARD: Jake Harris. 14 years old, looks
12. This kid got chosen a lot as an onstage assistant.
Howie Schwarzman did a routine where he roughs the kid
up. Later in the evening Mike Close has him up.
Close: "What is your name?" Jake (perfect feigned
sincerity): "You aren't going to hit me, are you?"
Jake performed a beginner's cups and balls routine on
Saturday night. Kinda screwed it up. IT DIDN'T
MATTER. Great personality -- the audience was with him
all the way. Like James Garner says (and has built a
career on): "You've got to get them to like you.
After that, it doesn't matter what you do." I talked
to Jake some. His parents are divorced, and he spends
summers with his dad in Seattle. He was there
recently, and he asked for and got a job working behind
the counter at Micky Hades for next summer. Also has
arranged to take lessons from Stephen Minch. Smart
kid!
JUST LIKE BEING THERE AWARD: Geno performed his Las
Vegas lounge act. Lots of interaction with female
volunteers. Very funny. Big news to me: Geno SINGS
in the act. And gets away with it. I'm looking
forward to seeing this again in Vegas.
CUTEST ON STAGE ASSISTANT: Michelle, from Illusions in
Indianapolis. Geno used her for the bra trick and
couldn't have had a more perfect reaction. Michelle
was also very nice off stage. (I used her on stage
myself for a card stab, but it's pretty hard to follow
after someone has ripped her underwear off!)
BEST SHOPPING: My wife and daughter accompanied me to
Nashville and had the time of their lives hitting all
the malls. They said to "tell the guy in charge of
this thing" to let all the wives know that Nashville
has GREAT shopping. Apparently Bellevue Center was the
place to be, though I don't think there is any
merchandise in size 5 (my wife's) or whatever size my
daughter wears left. "Is he going to do this thing
again next year?" I said yes, I think so. "Good!"
Put next year on your calendar. These are only a few
quick impressions. I'm leaving LOTS out. But it was
really fun to get to hang out with everyone. Thanks
again, Tabby.
And write, don't call. I still have babies in my ears.
You had to be there.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #31175 Dated 20:16:03 01-12-92 -> 31212
From: DOC EASON
To: ALL
Re: ADDRESSES
Thanks pete is Bill Wells on this MAGIC bbs?/Does anyone have Chris
Carter's adr? I seem to have lost the Sept 1990 ish of Linking
Ring...I need it...Thanks to anyone who is out there.
...And so the Genii said, "Let me take another look at that map!!
Well the Broncos put in a good show and beat the spread! Hey while
I'm talkin addresses I still need an update on the whereabouts of allan
hayden...anyone help?
Msg #31176 Dated 20:22:59 01-12-92 -> 31188
From: STAN LAKE
To: ALL
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I haven't been on here much since Christmas. Santa was VERY
good to me this year and I got a lot of great magic books,
tapes and tricks added to my collection. I have a lot to get
through so I won't be able to participate as actively as I
used to. One of the tricks I learned was the Zarrow shuffle
and Vernon's Triumph routine. It is pretty standard stuff
for most magicians but I have always seen it done the same
way. It's great the way it is but I wanted to take it one
step further. Forgive me if this has been done before, I
just haven't seen it. Anyway, I like the response I get from
an audience when I do Vernon's Triumph. It seems wonderfully
incomprehensible to them that the entire deck can be shuffled
face up into face down and then be magically righted save for
the chosen card. Here's what I do to take this one step
further. I like to start with the deck in perfect sequence,
ace through king. If you can do a perfect faro shuffle it's
even better to have it set up so that three or four perfect
faro shuffles will leave you with a deck in perfect sequence.
(Expert Card Technique has tables that show how to set that
up) That way you can casually show the deck to be mixed
before you commence shuffling. I have a card chosen by
riffle method. That way when they say stop I can pick the
card stopped at myself, show it around and place it back
exactly where it came from. After shifting or double
undercutting it to the top I do several Zarrow shuffles and
false cuts retaining the deck in perfect order with the
selection on top. When I flip over the bottom half of the
deck to shuffle into the top half it is important not to
spread the face up part widely so the spectators see the set
up. I simply spread them in a semi circular fan so that most
of the white can be seen without the indices. A few visible
indices won't matter. Continue as usual and do the displays
showing how the deck is all mixed up. After reassembling the
deck notice the bottom card and cut to a king if one is not
showing. That is to say that if you do the ace through king
set up and the bottom card is a four that means the cards
beneath it are the ace, two and three. On top of the deck
are the five through king. You don't want the sequence to be
split so just cut off the required number of cards to the
top. After spreading the cards BACKS UP showing all but the
selection to have righted itself, turn the spread over
showing the deck to also be back in perfect sequence even
with the chosen card in the correct position.
Msg #31181 Dated 23:22:01 01-12-92 31144 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICHARD HART (X)
Re: EUREKA
Thanks for the recommendation, Richard. Will try to check it out.
Msg #31184 Dated 23:36:57 01-12-92 31159 <--> 31271
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PHILIP HOPBELL (X)
Re: M A G I C (1:5)
Just got back from Borego Springs, where we picked up our motorhome
following the rebuilding of its transmission. There is a long story to
go with this, but too tired to tell it. Mentioned it because the
connection is back injury -- Anita (my wife) is beginning to recover
from the one she sustained leaping across the motorhome after Nathan,
our three year old who was "driving," released the gearshift lever and
the motorhome fell off the leveling blocks. I was not so seriously
injured as I didn't know what was going on (until it fell) since I was
in the bathroom at the time . . .
Anyway, hope your back is better and yes, I too enjoyed this month's
issue of M A G I C and Burger's article. No, I wasn't reading it when
the motorhome fell; I was reading Tamariz' The Magic Way at the time.
Msg #31185 Dated 23:43:15 01-12-92 31163 <--> 31193
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
Sheesh, Doc! You shoulda told us you were gonna be here! We would
have held a MAGIC! luncheon in your honor!
Speaking of which, rumor has it that PETE BIRO will be here on JANUARY
19th!!! If we can get this confirmed, why don't we put together a
MAGIC! Sunday Brunch for him? Even if he doesn't care enough about us
to file reports from the MCMC. SERIOUSLY - If you want to attend
Sunday Brunch with P*E*T*E B*I*R*O, let me know IMMEDIATELY!
Msg #31186 Dated 23:46:08 01-12-92 31168 <--> 31195
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: NEXT COPPERFIELD
I haven't heard anything yet regarding the date of the Copperfield
Special. I think that segments of it are being taped at this time
though. Will try to find out more.
Msg #31187 Dated 23:48:19 01-12-92 31174 <--> 31211
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Thank goodness for you, Steve!!! Otherwise we would be in total
darkness regarding the MCMC!!! Really appreciate your report!
Msg #31188 Dated 23:53:49 01-12-92 31176 <--> 31192
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I just read your message three times, and that sounds great, Stan! I'd
love to try it, but I've got this farshluggener bill switch I have to
work on.
Msg #31192 Dated 1:29:31 01-13-92 31176 <--> 31194
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Stan,
Good to see your moniker on the board again.
Your effect sounds wonderful. I'll bet you get some gasps.
Are you planning on visiting the Castle anytime soon? I just got
back from there. (Lesson 1: Don't drive INTO Los Angeles on a
Sunday evening.)
If you feel like being sociable, just let me know when you'll be
down there, and I'll do my darndest to zip on down.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31193 Dated 1:29:37 01-13-92 31185 <--> 31200
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
David,
I've already made arrangements with Pete, so I didn't know if you
wanted to count me. But I plan on being there the 19th.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31194 Dated 1:29:42 01-13-92 31188 <--> 31199
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
David,
Have you considered coming up with a new and original version of
TT bill switch? I was messing with one the other day, that might
interest you.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31195 Dated 1:29:46 01-13-92 31168 <--> 31219
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: NEXT COPPERFIELD
Arnaud,
I don't know when the air date is, but do know that it hasn't
even been taped yet.
There was an invitation to see the taping, but since I wasn't
going to be in that part of the country, I didn't pay much
attention to it. Now I can't find the dates.
Hope that helps some.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31196 Dated 1:41:34 01-13-92 -> 31201
From: RICK KITAMURA
To: ALL
Re: MAC HELP
If any neophytes here need help with their Macintosh computers, contact
me and I'll give it a shot.
Msg #31199 Dated 8:35:59 01-13-92 31194 <--> 31213
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I don't want to talk about it. But I'm seriously considering having
John Gaughan build me a custom thumb tip.
Msg #31200 Dated 8:37:08 01-13-92 31193 <--> 31214
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
Great! Will see you on the 19th!
Msg #31201 Dated 8:37:32 01-13-92 31196 <--> 31335
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: RICK KITAMURA (X)
Re: MAC HELP
Thanks, Rick! Help with Macs is appreciated.
Msg #31207 Dated 10:01:06 01-13-92 -> 31221
From: DOC EASON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP
I was only in LA for one night. Had a job to do in Palm Spgs and it
was cheaper to fly to LAX than PS. I wasnt even there for lunch time
but thanks for the offer.
Msg #31208 Dated 10:02:37 01-13-92 -> 31222
From: DOC EASON
To: ALL
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
I need to find the adr that is in Linking Ring Sept 1990. That one is
missing from my file...could someone please help me out???
Msg #31209 Dated 10:43:01 01-13-92 31170 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: DEM BONES
Did the Sheep Live?
Msg #31211 Dated 10:43:19 01-13-92 31174 <--> 31215
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
You did leave ONE THING OUT, but I guess I is gots to tell. When I
brought Jake onstage... it was "JAKE AND THE FATMAN"... ARGH ARGH
ARGH ARGH ARGH... WELL, actually it was an ILLUSION as the shirts I
got for Xmas all had larger, seemingly thicker fronts!
Msg #31212 Dated 10:43:25 01-13-92 31175 <--> 31790
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: ADDRESSES
Wells comes on about once a week... usually Tuesdayss (Must be a
slow news day in DC!!)... Broncos? Argh... saw highlights... and
will play the tape tonite here at Tabman-City while suckin' down
Gloria's HOMEMADE Chicken Dinner.
Msg #31213 Dated 10:43:30 01-13-92 31176 <--> 31216
From: PETE BIRO
To: STAN LAKE (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Glad Triumph works well for you. Have a comment I heard from Max
Maven. A well-known upper level mage was sitting with Vernon and a
few others and wanted to show the Professor HOW CLEANLY he could do
Triumph.
.
He proceeded to do it so clean and so smooth you would DIE for his
ability.... he looked at Vernon and said, "What do you think?"
.
Vernon said, "NO NO... you have it all wrong. Its ALL in the
presentation... you have to tell them how someone took the cards
and shuffled them into a MESS... (ETC) (READ THE BOOK)....
.
Poor Guy was DEFLATED on that one!!!
.
so... no matter what your technique, etc. make sure you don't
forget the acting/premise/sell part of the effect.
Msg #31214 Dated 10:43:46 01-13-92 31185 <--> 31217
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
Sunday Brunch it is (unless I make it to the Superbowl -- word is
they want me to do the Billion Dollar Bill Trick at HALF TIME!!!
Msg #31215 Dated 10:43:50 01-13-92 31187 <--> 31246
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Hey... how can the guys in charge BRAG about possible the greatest
convention of the age (for its size).
.
SERIOUSLY... the people, the atmosphere, etc. COULD NOT MISS. The
Tabman has IT and IT is contagious! He knows what works. Will most
likely have to move it to a GIGANTIC hotel next time!!!
.
Mike Stratman, Kenny Klosterman and a whole slug of dudes from
TEXAS (over a 1,000 miles) rolled in unexpectedly and took good
car of us.
Kent Cummins, at the Brunch SURPRISED "EVERYONE" especially El Tab,
when he asked for the floor. (And someone gave it to him!!)
.
He presented the "FIRST ANNUAL Texas Dudes appreciation Awards"
(this in itself is rumored to be a taped show on the Nashville
Network Next year)....
.
THE AWARDS!!!! A sealed box of "Alley Cat" cat food... for "TABBY"
which when opened (it was sealed)... revealed a package of frozen
CRABMEAT... Get it? Tabby Crabb!!! YO!!!!
.
Next (Oh, it was also in honor of the theme... "RULE OF THREE"...
.
Mike Close got the tube of CLOSE UP toothpaste!!! He had left early,
and it will be presented to him postheumously (Max, Correct the
spelling for me please)... (Or when I see him at Illusions in May).
.
The final and most appreciated, and possibly semi-appropriate was
to Max Maven... and... YOU GUESSED IT... A life-time supply (for
Max) of M E O W M I X..... heheheheheheheheheh....
.
Oh, the Mike Close Practical Joke on Johnny ACE Palmer... You see,
Ace, as he is called by his friends.... had concluded the production
of the baby chicks... and figured they had put away properly.
.
When Close Commenced... Chirping could be heard (NOTE: I only say
this as somene known for melting teapots and cannot hear things in
his range __ I had to trust they were telling me the truth!!)
Anyway... Close started to work and suddenly ACE leaped to his feet
and ran onstage looking for what sounded like one of his chicks
.... HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH.... at the precise moment... Close brought
a toy bird out of his pocket and said... "Gee I didn't think these
things sounded THAT REAL!!"
.
It was more than KILLER!!!
.
OK, here is why NO LIVE REPORTS... We were having too good a time
and forgot about the other MAGIC! members (actually it seemed like
they were all here!!!) Sorry Dudes... you will be at the next one!!!
Msg #31216 Dated 10:44:36 01-13-92 31188 <--> 31218
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Farshluggner WILL NOT CUT IT! Gee, were you HERE??? Otherwise HOW
DID YOU KNOW ABOUT "THE RULE OF THREE"...
Msg #31217 Dated 10:44:40 01-13-92 31193 <--> 31250
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
The 19th it is!!!
Msg #31218 Dated 10:44:43 01-13-92 31194 <--> 31220
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
If anyone needs a battery-powered Thumb Tip, let me know, as I made
up a couple of spares...
Msg #31219 Dated 10:44:46 01-13-92 31195 <-
From: PETE BIROTo: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: NEXT COPPERFIELD
Taping will be in Florida, Ft. Lauderdale... but I don't recall
the dates either. Perhaps someone else will.
Msg #31220 Dated 10:44:50 01-13-92 31199 <--> 31243
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I hope its better than the one he built me... He's good, but not
that good!
Msg #31221 Dated 10:51:16 01-13-92 31207 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP
Well, we would be delighted to see you anytime you have the chance.
Msg #31222 Dated 10:51:53 01-13-92 31208 <--> 31307
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
Weird! My Sept. 1990 LR is wandering around too! Could it be a
conspiracy?
Msg #31226 Dated 13:32:11 01-13-92 -> 31308
From: DOC EASON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LEDERMAN
Found d. ledermans adr now need carter's and allen haydens
Msg #31227 Dated 14:54:39 01-13-92 -> 31245
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
/
"What's conclave mean??"
"Look it up in the dictionary and take the first definition!" I
have experienced every emotion known to man over the past few
days. I have survived the experience of doing a meaningful event
solo and plan on the continuation of the Music City Conclave as
well as the possibility of doing a similar event in a western
city (with a hometown partner). / I had 26 dudes from town call
and reserve seats and not show (and not pay). I had guys drive in
from Texas and write me checks. I bought $7,000 worth of stock in
the company (how much I lost money wise) and got much, much more
back because I got the opportunity to find out who my friends
were (which is the greatest thing) since everybody has to wait
til I get some cash in the bank so they can run their checks.
Thanks guys, too bad you don't take American Express like the
hotel. / It was the HONEST convention. The guys from
Murfreesboro didn't show becasue they though Max was in league
with the devil - and Max says that he "hardly knows him. Just a
few mutual friends." The SYMPOSIUM PANEL was one of the payoff
parts for me. The panel of MAX MAVEN, MICHAEL CLOSE, RAY MERTZ,
JIM SISTI, TIM WENK with PETE BIRO hanging out to the corner of
the table closest to max being a moderator. I asked them to
consider a couple of questions and hoped for something meaningful
to happen and I feel it did. People spoke honestly with each
other and I let it run over by 50 minutes since Fr. Schemp, Scott
Humston, Jake Harris, and a couple others from the audience were
digging for the real human stuff and not wasting time talking
about how many "bad" books had beenpublished or some other "who
cares" sort of bs. Ray Mertz, who spent most of his time in the
bar wearing his Buffalo Bills sweater and playing the bud bowl
announced from the center symposium seat "You mean there's a W in
Twitty City?" Tim Wenk stayed pretty quiet til the end, Jim Sisti
(great comic wit!!!!) kept the discussion close to magic while
Michael Close and Max Maven spoke honestly and matter of factly
their thoughts and opinions on the subject matter at hand. I
heard in the rest room from a guy in the next stall that he
thought some of the guys on the panel were a "little brutal" on
the magicalumkin (I know Max, but Pete says the lumpkin are a
step down the evolutionary scale from lumpen). And I say, why
not. Somebody has to tell them how hard it really is to be a
magician. How you have to live it, eat it, breathe it, sleep it.
Never let off. Practice, practice, practice with a purpose. Maybe
I'll raise the price next year and keep the riff raff out. /
Anyway, thanks everybody who participated from everywhere.
"....from the wheat fields waving to the your dancing waters." I
appreciate it. I will let others comment on the lecturers,
dealers, etc. I hope Charlie remembers to write the review for
Genii. I had hoped to sell the event out so I could fly both
Dante Larsen and David Lichtman out to Nashville, but with only
1/3 of the seats sold I didn't get to do this part. I am going to
start next month selling tickets for next years event. It is
invitation only for 150 seats. Guys who came this year get first
shot. I'll try to bring Dante out next year. He needs to come
over this way cause I only found a handfull of guys in the Great
Southeast who subscribe to Genii, only one or two in each club.
Dante, how about letting me be your agent in the Southeast??? /
What else?
Well, some awards are in order and they will be presented every
year on MAGIC!.
<:>-(); Biggest Stir on the Local Community...............Max Maven
Most Lasting Impression On Attendees......Geno, Geno, Geno
Winner - Marathon Drive to Music City Rallye....Kent Cummins
The Tears In My Ears Award.........Richard and Charlie (H&R)
The Alabama Gang (headed up by Doc Vines who
had the best decoy for a shot of bourbon that I've
ever seen) Award....Emory Kimbrough
The Yowsuh!!! Award.............Pete Biro
for getting Goodyear to pay for his ticket to MUSIC CITY
The I Still Can't Believe You Said That Award....Michael Close.
The Super Good News Award..............David Luther for telling me the
Msg #31228 Dated 14:57:30 01-13-92
From: TABBY CRABB
To: ALL
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE CONT:
Texans would be in a day early to help in 1993. Yowsuh!
/
The awards (but not the checks) are in the mail guys.
/
The people really who made it happen were the workers: Max Maven,
Johnny Ace Palmer, Michael Close, Richard Hatch, Ray Mertz, Jim
Sisti, Howie Schwarzman, Tim Wenk, Scott Humston, Tim Sharp, Jeff
Musick, Geno Munari, Suzy Knight (Holiday Inn, Vandy), and Pete
Biro. I almost broke down during the Hofzinser Brunch as I sat
and realized the first was almost behind me and I saw what was
happening and remembering that a year ago it all started with a
thought of "wouldn't it be coool if???"
/
Later, magic dudes.
Msg #31231 Dated 16:05:00 01-13-92 -> 31252
From: BRUCE SANDERCOCK
To: ALL
Re: NEW SHOW
Last Tuesday evening, while in Las Vegas, I had the pleasure of being
entertained at Geno Munari's production of his new venture, "Magic
Cabaret Revue." It takes place twice an evening at the Continental
Hotel, which is located on Paradise Road, just behind Bally's. The cost
is $6.95 per person which includes a drink, and is the best bargain in
town.
.
Geno has two great singer-dancers who open and introduce Geno himself,
who does a super Magic-comedy act.
.
Gary Darwin (of Darwin's Magic Club) does some classics with his
version of the Zombie, Miser's Dream, Thimbles, and keeps them
laughing!
.
Geno tells me he's changing the name of his show to "Hanky Pankey." Be
sure and visit Geno next time your in Lost Wages.
Msg #31232 Dated 17:02:51 01-13-92
From: GENO MUNARI
To: ALL
Re: MELINDA
Tonight, they are doing some more follow up on the Little story.
Msg #31233 Dated 17:05:00 01-13-92 -> 31253
From: MELINDA SAXE
To: ALL
Re: HELLO FROM LAS VEGAS
Just thought I would drop a note to all the magicians.....and a special
thanks to Steve Bryant for all the nice comments in his book about me.
I just want to tell you thanks for all your support, and I love you
guys......
Melinda
Msg #31234 Dated 19:08:45 01-13-92 -> 31287
From: GARY PLANTS
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER
Hey Doc,
The address you wanted is:
Christopher Carter
PO Box 8206
Ann Arbor, MI 48107
How are things with you. Hope this is what you need. Later. Hope you
can make FFFF.?
Msg #31235 Dated 20:57:40 01-13-92 -> 31278
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY
I'm glad to hear the conclave went well. I had no doubt that it would.
Sorry to hear about the no shows. It was definitely their loss. Worse
is the NO PAYS send 'em a bill for making the reservation and not
cancelling- just like any hotel would d
Take a deep breath and bask in the good vibes, you've really helped to
spread the magic around. That can only increase your personal magic.
Msg #31236 Dated 21:01:56 01-13-92 -> 31292
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILL
Whats this about another bill switch? I'm sure your method is killer
and yep I'd probably like to learn it. But what about previous
discussions here by you about doing NEW STUFF. The audiences dont know your
method is any different than anyone elses. With the bill switch being
in many of the new books out it could easily become the zombie of the
90's. Don't mean to be so hard on ya but watcha think?
Msg #31243 Dated 23:06:50 01-13-92 31218 <--> 31244
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Pete,
Did anyone notice that the 19th is also the annual membership
meeting? How does that work exactly?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31244 Dated 23:06:54 01-13-92 31218 <--> 31248
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Pete,
I think I'm going to go for an internal combustion TT. Fifty
bill switches to the gallon.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31245 Dated 23:06:59 01-13-92 31227 <--> 31251
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
Tabby,
I hope that members of MAGIC! will have second shot at next
year's event.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31246 Dated 23:55:13 01-13-92 31215 <--> 31295
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
It does sound like it was one INCREDIBLE conclave! The Texas Dudes is
easily among the BEST people I've ever met in magic - Kent Cummins,
David Luther, Michael Ammar, etc. are fantastic folks - warm, giving,
you name it. There is a CW song (Tabb knows it) that says, "When I
die, if I can't go to Heaven, let me go to Texas, 'cause Texas is as
close as I've been."
I knew that sooner or later someone had to hit Max with some real Meow
Mix - glad it was Kent! And the Close/Palmer bit is hysterical!
Man, Oh, Man, I sure wish I'd been able to be there!
Msg #31248 Dated 0:00:08 01-14-92 31216 <--> 31249
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
How did I know about "The Rule Of Three"??? Sheesh, Biro, didn't you
read about how I was goin' in for mentalism?
Msg #31249 Dated 0:22:39 01-14-92 31243 <--> 31293
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! If the 19th is also the Annual Membership Meeting,
this could get messy! Will see what I can find out!
Msg #31250 Dated 0:25:04 01-14-92 31214 <--> 31297
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
Gee, I didn't know you were doin' the Superbowl! I'd heard that you'd
signed on to do the Billion Dollar Bill Trick as an exclusive with
Billy Graham on tour.
Msg #31251 Dated 0:27:26 01-14-92 31227 <--> 31279
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
It sounds like it was quite a fest, Tabman! The Devil's been loosin'
a lot lately - the state has taken over gambling, etc.and so I guess
his performance has been so poor lately that Max wants nothing to do
with him! But I love the "we just have a few mutual friends" line.
Sure wish I coulda come. As it was, we were in Borego Springs bailin'
out our motorhome. Funny bit -- on the way home we stopped for lunch
and when we came out, the new thousand dollar tranny was LEAKING! I
tried to check it, but it was already cold, so I paniced and threw in
an extra quart of fluid so we could make it home. Finally figgured it
out -- you see, it was leaking because HE HAD OVERFILLED IT! Then I
added a quart... Only problem now seems to be that speedometer quit
after our dinner in San Dimas. Gotta get a big hammer, I guess.
Really sorry to hear that you took a bath on the cost of The Conclave.
That hurts. But it sure sounds like you did something very meaningful
and wonderful!
Msg #31252 Dated 0:34:09 01-14-92 31231 <--> 31286
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BRUCE SANDERCOCK (X)
Re: NEW SHOW
Thanks for the review of Geno's new venue, Bruce. I'm hoping to get
there sometime soon.
Msg #31253 Dated 0:35:11 01-14-92 31233 <--> 31277
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MELINDA SAXE (X)
Re: HELLO FROM LAS VEGAS
Melinda -- Great to hear from you! Hope you will be able to drop in
from time to time. Nathan was ill all day today, but he really perked
up when he heard that you'd been here. He has your picture right over
his bed and shows it to everyone that comes to visit.
Msg #31255 Dated 4:02:04 01-14-92 -> 31298
From: DOUG SMITH
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: DEM BONES
They made the sacrifice to satisfy your inquiring mind and thirst for
knowledge.
Msg #31257 Dated 5:18:29 01-14-92 -> 31300
From: BILL WELLS
To: ALL
Re: SUPERBOWL !!!
Hail to the Redskins !!!! Buffalo steaks coming up!
Msg #31258 Dated 5:19:26 01-14-92 31061 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: COVEN?
Following that line of thought....one might surmise the existance of
a Deluge of Deceivers, a Clutch of Conjurors, or a jumble of jugglers
although I would have to suggest replacement of your list of Lumpkins
with the noun "mass" or maybe even Lymphoma. Don't kwit so Kwick.
Msg #31260 Dated 5:19:52 01-14-92 31069 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BIRO HAS LANDED
Your response is driving me "loco".
Msg #31261 Dated 5:19:58 01-14-92 31070 <--> 31266
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ELMSLEY COUNT
I thought it was a mask and black socks that was similar to wearing
a thumb tip.
Msg #31262 Dated 5:20:06 01-14-92 31072 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILLS
It is a good thing David Williamson doesn't forget his switches on
his trick with the kids that could have a name similar to your BDB
trick. It is just a matter of switching a letter.
Msg #31263 Dated 5:20:16 01-14-92 31073 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: GOODBYE PIG
Yes...I know that Raider jackets, caps and tee shirts are big sellers
but I believe the fact they are black and silver has almost as much
to do with sales as the fact it is LA Raider stuff. Kids are really
into wearing black. Of course, Max was way ahead of this wearing
black trend and I don't recall his being a avid Raider fan.
Msg #31266 Dated 5:20:53 01-14-92 31080 <--> 31272
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ELMSLEY COUNT
Alright....
David, why was Houdini the ultimate proponent of safe magic?
Msg #31268 Dated 5:21:20 01-14-92 31094 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: NEW BOOKS
Thank you for the listing of the books you regard as outstanding ones
for 1991 and the last four years. We are in mutually agreement on
most of them and there are some that I have not yet acquired. I am
not in the library so that I might refresh my aging brain, but I also
sense (as you apparently do) that there are a few others that might
warrant inclusion on the lists.
I appreciate your taking the time to share your selections.
Msg #31269 Dated 5:21:39 01-14-92 31125 <--> 31344
From: BILL WELLS
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: NEGATIVE CARDS
Some of this is coming back to me...I remember your helping Joe last
year, but I never made the connection back to the Columbus Magifests
of years ago.
Msg #31271 Dated 8:32:14 01-14-92 31184 <--> 31276
From: PHILIP HOPBELL
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: M A G I C (1:5)
Ahh, yes. Nothing in life prepares us for a bad back (or a bad oyster
for that matter). I am at work only because I fear what would happen if
I stayed away. My staff rolls me around in my chair and I do my Dr.
Strangelove rountine :-)
I spent the entire weekend reading though, and that is always good.
Msg #31272 Dated 9:10:11 01-14-92 31266 <--> 31302
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ELMSLEY COUNT
Aw, come on, Bill. You're better than that! Let's try it this way:
"Wasn't Houdini the ultimate proponent of SAFE magic?"
Msg #31276 Dated 9:26:00 01-14-92 31271 <--> 31452
From: DAVID LICHTMA (Sysop)
To: PHILIP HOPBELL (X)
Re: M A G I C (1:5)
I have been fortunate in that I have seldom wrenched or injured my
back. About 15 years ago my wife discovered that she had a conjenital
back problem and had surgery to fix it. It has been fine ever since,
but I did try to bill her parents on the grounds that it should have
been covered by the manufacturer's warranty. No luck.
Msg #31277 Dated 10:26:02 01-14-92 31233 <--> 31290
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MELINDA SAXE (X)
Re: HELLO FROM LAS VEGAS
Geno,
Glad you made it home OK. Thanks for coming to Music City Conclave
and doing your lecture and performance. Your gambling lecture was
the top lecture of Saturday for a lot of guys. I know cuz they told
me so.
Msg #31278 Dated 10:26:08 01-14-92 31235 <--> 31281
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY
The Conclave was great. I miscalculated the judgement of the local
magic fans is all. The people that came in from all over the SE
were glad they came. I feel good about it. I have already started
working on next year's MCCMS. You should try to make it over if you
can. We might move it to a different hotel, but the Holiday Inn
got high marks from most everyone.
Msg #31279 Dated 10:26:14 01-14-92 31245 <--> 31280
From: TABBY CRABB
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
Members of MAGIC! in good standing are certainly welcome at all
the tabman's events.
Msg #31280 Dated 10:26:18 01-14-92 31251 <--> 31283
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
Hope you can get over to Music City next year and set up an on site
system. We are going to do a close up and parlour show for the
Nash Network. An hour long special on cable. Hope your motor home
got motored home ok. It's snowing here and am glad to see my weather
luck held til after I got Pete on a plane home!!
Msg #31281 Dated 10:26:24 01-14-92 31235 <--> 31291
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY
I heard that you might be in SLC around the time of the IBM
Convention. If so would you get in touch with me about being
backstage crew for the talent contest. Rudy, my man from Baltimore,
can't make it out west this year because of health. Let me know
as I want to get this covered. Yow!!!
Msg #31282 Dated 10:58:15 01-14-92 -> 31284
From: JIM NAGEL
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LOST ARK
I miss your smiling face!
Msg #31283 Dated 11:06:06 01-14-92 31280 <--> 31305
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
Sounds like MCMC 1992 will be terrific! And putting it on the
Nashville Network is a great idea! Sure hope that MAGIC! can make it,
and, if we do, we will try to do it up royal with on-site system, etc.
Snow must be pretty. We hauled Nathan up the Palm Springs Tramway so
that he could get to see and touch the stuff. Now he's home with a
cold... Oh, well.
Msg #31284 Dated 11:09:54 01-14-92 31282 <--> 31304
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JIM NAGEL (X)
Re: LOST ARK
Nagel! Good to see you here!
Msg #31286 Dated 11:17:05 01-14-92 31231 <-
From: MIKE KING
To: BRUCE SANDERCOCK (X)
Re: NEW SHOW
Hi Bruce. I am going to be performing at Geno's in a couple of weeks.
Will let you know the ecact date(s). Mayb you can drop by. HOw's
tricks?
Msg #31287 Dated 11:31:06 01-14-92 31234 <-
From: DOC EASON
To: GARY PLANTS (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER
Thanks A million for the adr...no FFFF doesnt look good becuz we're
having our third child right around that time and a hall pass for
buffalo is unlikely. Knowhutimean????
Msg #31289 Dated 15:15:43 01-14-92
rom: MARVIN STERN
To: BRUCE SANDERCOCK (X)
Re: VEGAS
I saw Geno Sunday night. After it was over and we were sitting around,
Mike King showed up.
How did you do?
Msg #31290 Dated 17:01:11 01-14-92 31233 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: MELINDA SAXE (X)
Re: HELLO FROM LAS VEGAS
Best wishes from here (Pete Biro) just got back from 2 weeks on
the road... Will come see you next time I can get to LV.
Msg #31291 Dated 17:01:15 01-14-92 31235 <--> 31303
From: PETE BIRO
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY
Good idea... cancellation nuiscance fee. (See message I just put
up re over 2K credit card fraud I got hit with... argh...
Msg #31292 Dated 17:01:19 01-14-92 31236 <--> 31316
From: PETE BIRO
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILL
Well, if you read the thread.... alla way back... I hate the switch
with a Thumb Tip (same trick... no thumb tip)... but ask Max Maven
and others I did it for in Nashville.
.
Broke new ground!
Msg #31293 Dated 17:01:26 01-14-92 31243 <--> 31294
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I have no idea? Do w vote for me? Or what?
Msg #31294 Dated 17:01:29 01-14-92 31244 <--> 31296
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
If you get an old one you will need to pull the rope to get it
running!
Msg #31295 Dated 17:01:33 01-14-92 31246 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
It was NOT FICTION. It was as close to real magic as possible.
Msg #31296 Dated 17:01:36 01-14-92 31249 <--> 31310
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
so we don't get much food? I will try to come early... or what?
Msg #31297 Dated 17:01:39 01-14-92 31250 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RECENT TRIP TO THE CASTLE
Graham really liked it. Specially since it can be done in large
places and surrounded. Kinda gets them wanting to give thier money.
Msg #31298 Dated 17:01:43 01-14-92 31255 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOUG SMITH (X)
Re: DEM BONES
I thought so... argh... be cool! Thanks.
Msg #31300 Dated 17:01:54 01-14-92 31257 <--> 31808
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SUPERBOWL !!!
Denver is the better team but I just heard they had moved the
goalposts a tad inward... tsk...
Msg #31303 Dated 17:02:10 01-14-92 31281 <--> 31311
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY
Hey BURT would be great to help. Am sending you the stuff on Toshiba
via FAXman... dooooo... SNOW IN CHI no sno here... warm, actually!
Msg #31304 Dated 17:02:14 01-14-92 31282 <--> 31306
From: PETE BIRO
To: JIM NAGEL (X)
Re: LOST ARK
If you miss it that means you ain't tried to HIT IT... will call
you Wednesday... where yoo been?
Msg #31305 Dated 17:02:18 01-14-92 31283 <--> 31313
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
I hate Palm Springs. Sorry folks. Too hot or too cold. Tsk.
Msg #31306 Dated 17:02:21 01-14-92 31284 <--> 31312
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LOST ARK
You "SEE" Nagel? I smell chinese food...youse right...
Msg #31307 Dated 17:02:35 01-14-92 31222 <--> 31314
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
I have half a dozen of them. (I lied)... tsk... just logged on and
downloaded a Jillion Messages..
.
G U E S S W H A T M A G I C D U D E S
.
Someone RACKED UP $2900.00 worth of stuff at Target Stores and
Toys R Us on MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER!!!!!!!!!
.
AY CARUMBA... talk about a heart attack... Bank says if I fill out
the forms etc. I will probably not owe the money...
.
What else can go wrong?
.
Guess will have to start selling some more stuff... argh...
.
Man, I am still Shaking... LIMP... oh dear...
Msg #31308 Dated 17:02:52 01-14-92 31226 <--> 31363
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: LEDERMAN
DOK... can you send me Dave Lederman address? I am actually trying
to locate Willy Schneider. Or dave's phone nr?
Msg #31310 Dated 19:16:12 01-14-92 31296 <--> 31319
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Don't know - will have to call the Castle. It is possible Brunch will
be swarming with Annual Meeting attendees and we would have to take our
food down to the Library or something.
Msg #31311 Dated 19:15:07 01-14-92 31281 <-
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY
Yes, I can be in SLC to help out. I have another committment for the
4th but would be available the days before. I used to do a lot of work
up in that area doing concert lighting for the groups coming through
that neck of the woods. I was living there when Osmond studios were
built. I also used to have a few in's withthe local colllege theater
departments. Most of the university's up there have exellent theater
programs.
Msg #31312 Dated 19:21:36 01-14-92 31306 <--> 31320
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LOST ARK
Nagel likes Chinese food? If so, I gotta get to know him better!
Msg #31313 Dated 19:22:31 01-14-92 31305 <--> 31337
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
Try Borego Springs. Only make sure your vehicle is in good shape
first!
Msg #31314 Dated 19:23:36 01-14-92 31307 <--> 31317
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! $2.9K of stuff at Target and Toys R Us? He or she
musta bought stock to have spent that much! Is OK, Biro, you wanna
feel bad? The deal we've been working on here for 3 months went bye
bye.
Msg #31316 Dated 19:19:30 01-14-92 31292 <--> 31323
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILL
I was just trying to rib you a little. I'm sure you broke new ground
with method, but will the audience know the difference. Your way as
good as I here it is will probably be the ONLY way it is done a few
years from now. (It takes a while for some of the lumpen to catch on to
best methods, style etc. what am I saying many of them never catch on)
THe bill switch is a great trick and still has a lot of life left in
it. Lets face it most of the public don't watch agic and most anything
you show them is new TO THEM. My fear is that it will be overdone as
your fave zombie. Too many amatuers will screw it up or the public will
again have the perception that magicians are interchangeable because
they all know only the same tricksSeveral recent books rehash someones
handling of the same effect. There is a place for that but I don't
think it is in $40.00 books. Here I am rambling again, sorry. Best to
you in the great switcheroo challenge. I look forward to seeing this
miracle of prestidigitation.
Msg #31317 Dated 19:34:21 01-14-92 31307 <--> 31321
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
Don't sweat the little things. I currently work in the credit card biz.
You will not have to pay the charges. Give me a ring and I'll let you
know how the system works. Was your card stolen or were they just using
the number?
Msg #31318 Dated 19:48:40 01-14-92 -> 31325
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Tabby,
Forgot to put in a vote of confidence for the hotel,
and especially for the area. Very nice rate, and I
loved the availability of the speedy elevators. (One
of the few negatives of the last two Invocationals in
Chicago was the slooooooow elevators.) Loved the
nearby food. We dined Friday evening at Chili's (one
of my favorite chains in San Diego) and Saturday night
at the Cooker, which was in walking distance. Great
selection both places, a very collegiate crowd, and
nice prices. Although I missed it, my wife and
daughter also loved the Parthenon, just across the
street (for those of you who weren't there, it was a
full-scale replica of THE Parthenon). Apparently an
interesting art exhibit going on inside, and a
permanent (I hope) 42-foot-tall statue of the goddess
Athena. Wish I could have seen it, but the place
wasn't open on Sunday, and we had to start the drive
back to Indiana.
Re the panel discussion, I was in the restroom
momentarily when the guy (whom I never saw) walked in
and said, "What a bunch of abrasive ***holes." I
thought this spoke well of the success of this segment.
Unless it was just a setup line by Max, I wish I could
have met the folks who didn't want to attend because
they thought Max was too Satanic. I have a card trick
just for such types. It really shakes some people up.
I'd tip it here, but Bascom Jones is sitting on it, and
it wouldn't be fair to him. Suffice it to say that
Tony Andruzzi liked it.
Anyway, I still have this great feeling from having had
such a perfect weekend. Thanks again.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #31319 Dated 20:11:09 01-14-92 31310 <--> 31327
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Let me know... tanks.... bah....
Msg #31320 Dated 20:11:12 01-14-92 31312 <--> 31328
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: LOST ARK
We (when in Saint Loouie) eat at the Wok Buffet!!! Yar...
Msg #31321 Dated 20:11:15 01-14-92 31314 <--> 31324
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
Yah... and the other charges... etc. COMPTON AREA... hmmmmm ARgh...
Methinks I is OK... Fraud dept. to call... argh... ahssssrheighhghg
Msg #31323 Dated 20:11:21 01-14-92 31316 <--> 31406
From: PETE BIRO
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILL
The KEY to my handling of the switch is simplicity. It is done
before ANYONE knows ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED. Can let the loaner of
the dough fold it... you THROW IT BACK TO THEM and it is done!!!!
.
Have written 10 pager on it... need to go back and look at it as
I simplified it at NASHVILLE. maven and close looked at it and
thought it very gooooooooooooooood... and EASIER than with TTip...
Msg #31324 Dated 20:11:29 01-14-92 31317 <--> 31329
From: PETE BIRO
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
I have the card. Somehow the NUMERO was got... I talked again with
a rep and all will be OK. Thanx
Msg #31325 Dated 20:09:40 01-14-92 31318 <--> 31326
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
ARGH! Now I find out you were RIGHT CROSS THE STREET from THE
PARTHENON!!! One of my fave places in Nashville! (The other two being
a resturant - Cross Keys - and a library - the one at George Peabody
College - both of which seem to have gone out of business).
Please see if we can swap you guys the 42-statue of Athena for the
Super Pig.
Msg #31326 Dated 20:11:33 01-14-92 31318 <--> 31330
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Did you get my message re your book? I need it... Can't figger how
I forgot to get it back there. No rush, I am going away in 1.5 days
and will be at Castle the 19th and in Arizona the following week
and home Monday after the SuperBowl... (Hope I can set my VCR that
far in advance!!) Don't mail nuttin til then... tanks again...
Msg #31327 Dated 20:18:09 01-14-92 31319 <--> 31338
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I'm sure we'll find room for a small group. Will try to call Castle.
Msg #31328 Dated 20:18:31 01-14-92 31320 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LOST ARK
I L*O*V*E All-You-Can-Eat Chineese Buffets! See you there!
Msg #31329 Dated 20:19:17 01-14-92 31321 <--> 31340
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
You will be OK. Just don't take any Toys-R-Us toys to the meeting with
the Fraud Dept.
Msg #31330 Dated 20:39:39 01-14-92 31318 <--> 31331
From: TABBY CRABB
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
The line about Maven's look was told to me by a member of the
Murfreesboro, TN magic club about ten days before the event. I
had been visiting the area magic clubs trying to get them
involved in the spirit of MCCMS 92. I was doing good til the
guy tells me this and I snapped for about fifteen seconds and
told them if they didn't like it not to come, so I m to
blame I guess. It just sort of hit me between the eyes and then
after some gospel magic dude does this chemical magic trick
about sin and the blood of Jesus, it was just too much.
.
Having lunch with you was one of the rare relaxed half hours I
spent during the weekend. I haven't had a chance to check out
- Little Egypt Card Tricks -
but it looks like a cool book. Best of luck with it. Thanks for
coming down and bringing your family with you. I tried the Cooker
Restaurant on Sunday after the event with Howie, Richard Street,
Gary Hayes and some other guys and it was good. I want to get the
hotel have the restaurant open during convenient times for us as
well as getting a discount for attendees on a special menu. What
did you think of the hectic schedule?? Would you want more "hang
out" time??
Msg #31331 Dated 20:39:56 01-14-92 31325 <--> 31332
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
I sure hope you can join us in Nashville next year. I can tell
already that I'm gonna need double the exhibition space for the
display area and to put the serious lectures and performances
upstairs in the Parthanon Room if we stay at the same hotel. It
might be cool to take the entire second floor of meeting rooms
and suites and then having the brunch downstairs on Sunday. I
dunno yet what to do. I too, liked the hotel but they are
somewhat limited on space.
Msg #31332 Dated 20:40:04 01-14-92 31326 <--> 31333
From: TABBY CABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Lemme know if you want us to tape the super bowl 4 u.
Msg #31333 Dated 20:53:16 01-14-92 31331 <--> 31353
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
All reports from MCMC 1992 sound like it was SSOOMMEE event! I'm
already lookin' forward to MCMC 1993!
Msg #31335 Dated 0:00:20 01-1592 31196 <--> 31454
rom: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: RICK KITAMURA (X)
Re: MAC HELP
hey now Rick, I will be going to MAC Expo wednesday. did you make it?
Msg #31337 Date 0:15:49 01-15-92 31279 <-
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MUSIC CITY CONCLAVE
"members in good standing are certainly welcome..." Does that
mean I've got to quit sitting down when I type?
Enjoy!
Kevn
Msg #31338 Dated 0:15:54 01-15-92 31293 <--> 31339
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Don't worry Pete. I'll vote for you.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31339 Dated 0:15:59 01-15-92 31294 <--> 31343
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
"If you get an old one you will need to pull the rope to get it
running!"
Which is of course where the phrase "He's just pulling your
chain" comes from.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31340 Dated 0:16:04 01-15-92 31307 <--> 31341
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
Pete,
As far as I know, you are only responsible for the first $50 of
credit card fraud by law in the state of California.
Some credit cards (my Citibank for instance) won't even charge
you that much.
Sorry to hear about the hassles. As always, if I can help just
let me know.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31341 Dated 0:16:10 01-15-92 31314 <--> 31349
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
David,
I'm sorry. This has not started out to be a wonderful year.
Let's hope that Chinese New Year brings out the better fate
demons.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31343 Dated 0:41:52 01-15-92 31319 <--> 31351
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Talked to Terry at the Castle tonight, he's looking forward to seeing
you. He is doing a killer 2-hand chopper effect that is really good.
.
Sorry I'll miss you Sunday, but I'm gone skiin' - see you next trip.
.
Bizarre.
Msg #31349 Dated 7:45:11 01-15-92 31341 <--> 31352
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
Except for cash flow, is OK. The deal was getting so complicated, I
wasn't sure I wanted to do it anyway! I just gotta go find some other
fish to fry. I've lost track - which Chinese year is it about to be?
Msg #31351 Dated 8:44:55 01-15-92 31327 <--> 31355
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Yah, thanks. "BIRO" will only pull a small group... if there aren't
70-80 there its hardly worth my time!
Msg #31352 Dated 8:44:59 01-15-92 31329 <--> 31357
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
Last night Leno said, "Bush opened a Toys R Us in Japan last week.
Great timing, eh? Right AFTER Christmas!!" Duh....
Buchanan said, "I'd never do what Bush did... I WOULD THROW UP
RIGHT HERE IN THE GOOD OLD USA!"
Msg #31353 Dated 8:45:05 01-15-92 31331 <--> 31354
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Don't forget the "Collectors Swap Meet".... books too.... arhg...
Msg #31354 Dated 8:45:08 01-15-92 31332 <-- 31393
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
I will letcha know... I am trying to figger my sked to be somewhere
where I can see at least the second half... in hotel or sumpin...
Msg #31355 Dated 8:45:12 01-15-92 31339 <--> 31356
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Or use a Kick starter... to get yo kix?
Msg #31356 Dated 8:45:15 01-15-92 31343 <--> 31359
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Yah... Seagoone is Gooooooooooooood.... He had been robbed and lost
the double chopper, sounds like he got a new one ??? Good stuff...
He has some art work for my ring book I gots to see!!!
.
Hit the slopes dude... adios...
Msg #31357 Dated 8:45:22 01-15-92 31349 <--> 31360
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
The year of the "Argh" a small but significant animal that cannot
breath without a good credit rating. Cough, cough...
.
The Prototype KILLER Card in Rat Trap now hangs on the coveted
wall of fame at the Hotel Neuva de Carlo... just out of Dog's reach!
.
I have a glitch of some kind in IMP? It freezes up after about
half the messages are logged in? Will see if it is a freak accident.
.
Will check the freak and ask him.
Msg #31358 Dated 8:56:35 01-15-92 -> 31362
From: BART BISHOP
To: ALL
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Where is the new Magic Bar that I have been hearing about in L.V.?
I know it has been on the BBS before, but... you know how it goes!
Thanks for the help.
Bart
Msg #31359 Dated 10:06:48 01-15-92 31351 <--> 31368
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Well, if our group is too small for you, you could ask Bill if you
could perform for the Annual Meeting.
Msg #31360 Dated 10:07:54 01-15-92 31352 <--> 31361
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
It is my understanding that openings in Japan are generally scheduled
after consultation with an oracle to determine the most propitious
date. (I'm gonna get killed by Max, right?). Bush got lucky that it
was a Toys-R-Us -- it coulda been a taco stand.
Msg #31361 Dated 10:10:34 01-15-92 31357 <--> 31372
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
When times get tough, I know guys who die and come back as someone
else. But I think American Express only lets you do that once.
Glad to hear that the prototype of the Card in Rat Trap now graces the
walls of the Nuevo de Carlo. I saw that effect before I knew you. It
told me a lot about you, but when I saw you in person, I was surprised
to find that you still had 10 fingers.
Msg #31362 Dated 10:54:58 01-15-92 31358 <--> 31370
From: MARVIN STERN
To: BART BISHOP (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
I assume that you are referring to Geno Munari's new magic room at the
Continental Hotel, Paradise and Tropicana, off the strip.
Show times 7 and 9, Small room, no reservations necessary.
Geno even sings.
Msg #31363 Dated 11:24:21 01-15-92 31308 <--> 31374
From: DOC EASON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LEDERMAN
lederman-11617 Clubhouse Ct./Reston VA 22090 I have no phone. who's
willy schneider?
Msg #31364 Dated 11:25:48 01-15-92 -> 31365
From: DOC EASON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: PASWORD
how do i change my personal password?? there's no reason to type 8
spaces if I can type two or three
Msg #31365 Dated 12:14:19 01-15-92 31364 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: PASWORD
To change your personal password:
o Start from the Main Menu
o Type U for User Menu and press the ENTER key.
o Type PW for Password and press the ENTER key.
o Enter your new password and press the ENTER key.
o Enter your new password again and press the ENTER key.
o Type M for Main Menu and press the ENTER key.
Your new password will be active on your next sign-on.
Msg #31368 Dated 12:19:13 01-15-92 31355 <--> 31371
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Silly Rabbi, Kix are for trids.
I've wanted to kick my motorcycle in the last couple of weeks.
The bloody thing is giving me difficulty in starting. It has no
kick starter, so if the electric starter doesn't work, I have to
push it. Thing weighs almost as much as a V.W.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #31370 Dated 12:31:56 01-15-92 31358 <--> 31373
From: MIKE KING
To: BART BISHOP (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
it is located in the Hotel Continental about six blocks South of the
strip on Flamingo Road. There is a huge new full color electronic
billboard. Once inside the Hotel, go through the casino to the back
and right. Up the satirs to the second floor and it's located on the
left at the top of the staircase. I think the shows are at 7p.m. and 9
p.m. , buyt not for certain. You might put a message on the BBS to
Geno for complete details, He should know. He's the producer. Have
fun. MIKE.
Msg #31371 Dated 12:49:34 01-15-92 31359 <--> 31379
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Ask about my ENTRANCE at Tabman's doo...!
Msg #31372 Dated 12:49:37 01-15-92 31361 <--> 31387
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
One of them is a former "false" finger... argh?
Msg #31373 Dated 12:49:40 01-15-92 31362 <--> 31395
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
I'll bet he is referring to the new magic room at the Continental
Hotel, Paradise and Tropicana, off the strip.
Show times 7 and 9, Small room, no reservagtions necessary.
Geno even sings. ARgh?
Msg #31374 Dated 12:49:46 01-15-92 31363 <--> 31396
From: PETE BIRO
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: LEDERMAN
Willy Schneider is the manufacturing jeweler that Persi Diaconis
(for Himber) had make the original Linking Finger Rings that he,
Persi, invented (for full story buy my book)! Thanks for Dave's
address. I am off again for 2 weeks and will be driving a car that
has neither a radio or a tv set on Superbowl Sunday from Parker
Arizona to home!!
.
But how could the game be SUPER without either the Raiders or the
Broncos? How?
Msg #31376 Dated 12:53:04 01-15-92
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: MESSAGE DIED
MY LIST DIED... WILL RE SEND... DUH... is incomplete as sent. Will be
away for 10 days but in contact daily on MAGIC!
Msg #31379 Dated 13:04:47 01-15-92 31368 <--> 31385
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Do you live on a hill? I got $300-plus worth of work on car and
new brakes, etc. and the pedal is (today) soft! ARgh and leaving
for Anaheim by car manana!! No time to check? Mebbe?
Msg #31383 Dated 13:28:40 01-15-92 -> 31398
From: MAX MAVEN
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: BOOKS
Just thought of a title I forgot to include in the list of top-notch
books of the past year: Jim Steinmeyer's "Device and Illusion."
Msg #31385 Dated 13:36:34 01-15-92 31371 <--> 31389
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Tabman -
The Biro is hassling me to death to ask you about his entrance at MCMC.
So I guess I'd better. What's it all about?
Msg #31387 Dated 13:40:01 01-15-92 31372 <--> 31425
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
Yeah, I kinda figured that if you did the Card in Rat Trap enough you'd
be at least one finger short. And yeah, I know that you did get caught
by it once. And yeah, I also know about the time you actually caught
the right card with it.
Speaking of false fingers, etc. there was a story on the news today
about some guy who was alone on a farm and suffered a tractor accident
in which both his arms were cut off. He managed to walk/crawl about
1200 feet to the house, open the door with his teeth and dial 911 by
using a pencil in his mouth. They said that the docs were able to
reattach his arms and that he will have some ue of them, although he
probably won't be able to use his hands. Argh!
Msg #31389 Dated 14:04:51 01-15-92 31310 <--> 31390
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I assume that this message is an attempt at humor of some kind...
Msg #31390 Dated 14:44:17 01-15-92 31379 <--> 31399
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Pete,
Yeah, I live on a hill. The problem is when I'm out banking or
such and they have a level driveway. Some one of these days,
I'll tell you the story of my January 1st fiasco.
Good luck with the brakes. If you need help, for any reason,
just call.
Enjoy!
Kevin
(714)788-5057
Msg #31392 Dated 15:15:43 01-15-92 -> 31456
From: MARVIN STERN
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: FRIDAY
Fri lunch, you may need a deck, set-up 7D, QS,3S. You have them
pick, not my daughter, but the other gal, and have my daughter think of
the card. Then force the 2nd and I'll name.
They may not be there, if they are then go to it.
Can't get over Vicky. As many times as we do the 7D, she knows whats
going on, but she sure gives a good reaction.
Msg #31393 Dated 15:32:42 01-15-92 31353 <--> 31394
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
I think brunch is for the collectors. Enjoyed H & R Books being
there to check out great titles. Jim Sisti got the GREATER MAGIC
that was on their table. Barry from Chatanooga Magic has been on
phone all day talking about next years event. What do you think of
John Mendoza lecture??
Msg #31394 Dated 15:32:48 01-15-92 31354 <--> 31404
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
OK, we will be here for Super Bowl. It is blizzard outside rite
now. Well, not a Buffalo Blizzard but a Tennessee Blizzard anyway!!
Msg #31395 Dated 15:32:51 01-15-92 31358 <--> 31397
From: TABBY CRABB
To: BART BISHOP (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Tom Mullica is reported to be building a MAGIC BAR at some hotel
there in L.V. but nobody will tell me where it is.
Msg #31396 Dated 15:32:55 01-15-92 31363 <--> 31431
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: LEDERMAN
Quick, somebody give me Dave Williamson's phone or FAX number!!!
Msg #31397 Dated 15:32:58 01-15-92 31370 <--> 31400
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Hi Mike,
Are you performing at Geno's HANKY PANKY REVIEW???? That's what I
heard anyway. The MCCMS went great and I am off working on Conjurors
Woodworks and next years Conclave already. You'll have to try to
make it over next year and see some friends.
El Tab
Msg #31398 Dated 15:33:05 01-15-92 31383 <--> 31426
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: BOOKS
"Device and Illusion" has my vote for a top-notch. Thanks for the
super job at the Conclave. I owe you one. I owe you two, actually!!
Msg #31399 Dated 15:33:08 01-15-92 31385 <--> 31412
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
First I've got to point out that in saying MCMC I feel that you
are referring to MCCMS or sometimes referred to as MCCM, If that
is the case, Biro crawled under the front table when nobody was
looking and when the MC introed him the spotlight couldn't find
him. After everybody started looking around, Petecrawled out
from under the table and got a big laugh. You really must try to
come next year.
Msg #31400 Dated 15:47:30 01-15-92 31362 <--> 31401
From: BART BISHOP
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Thanks!!!
Leaving in A.M.
Bart
Msg #31401 Dated 15:48:18 01-15-92 31370 <--> 31402
From: BART BISHOP
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Thanks!!!
Leaving in the A.M.
Bart
Msg #31402 Dated 15:48:54 01-15-92 31395 <--> 31430
From: BART BISHOP
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
I love a mystery!
Bart
Msg #31404 Dated 16:54:44 01-15-92 31393 <--> 31428
From: STEVEN KRAMER
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Tabby, Thank you again for a first class event. I just dropped a note
in the mail today to thank you more personally! I live in St. Louis
and see John Mendoza quite frequently. His lectures are always well
received and I would recommend John for MCC93! Thanks again for the
opportunity to close the attendees performance. This was a great thrill
for me! Both Louise (my wife) and I look foward to next years event.
Msg #31405 Dated 17:05:29 01-15-92 -> 31435
From: STEVEN KRAMER
To: ALL
Re: MAX ABRAMS
Does anyone know Max Abrams phone number? I would like to call him as
I sent money for the Annemann book and it has not been cashed yet. I
want to make sure he has received it. Maybe he is waiting to cash when
the books are sent. Wouldn't that be a neet change!?
Msg #31406 Dated 18:33:58 01-15-92 31323 <--> 31436
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILL
Re:bill switch. Sounds like you done real good. Handling is everything.
Can't wait to learn it.
Msg #31409 Dated 19:01:01 01-15-92 -> 31437
From: BURT CARPENTER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ANAHEIM
Whein Anaheim you MUST eat at Belle Isles on the corner of Harbor and
Chapman. Go for dessert but do not eat dinner first. Biggest portions
you will ever get. Pies are over 12 inches tall. Lots of goodies on
display in bakery cases. Make sure to see the breakfast menu also.
Texas breakfast is 12 eggs, 36 oz steak,stack of manhole cover pancakes
etc etc. reasonably priced for what you get. Ugly pink building open 24
hrs. everything including the ice cream is made on premises. Casual
dress. Clse to the convention center and Disneyland. DO NOT MISS.
Msg #31411 Dated 19:23:14 01-15-92
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Hectic it was, but that's partly what made it fun. If
you have only a short time, pack a lot in. If I had to
make any suggestions, it would be to put a strong time
limit on the lectures that precede other events. (In
other words, it isn't so important for the midnight
lecture.) This isn't to knock any lecturers -- indeed,
I wish Geno could have been on twice as long -- but
things seemed to get off schedule a bit. Also nice if
they could sell their stuff in next room, say, while
the next guy sets up.
Hard to fathom those Murfreesboro guys. I guess they
wouldn't have liked last year's (1990) Invocational,
which opened with guys in robes and hoods sacrificing a
virgin.
As to the hotel itself, I always like 24-hour food
service. I didn't check out how late the McDonald's
across the street stayed open. ANY hotel is a minor
letdown after a hotel, say, like the Tropicana, which
is a 24-hour party.
Way off the subject, but did you and everyone note that
an NCAA basketball game was played a couple of nights
ago with a score of 258-141??? How would you like to
score 141 points and still get beaten by 117? ("How
did you guys win?" "Defense!") Actually, the losers
were quoted as saying they enjoyed being a part of
something like that. Only 7 foul shots in the game.
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #31412 Dated 20:07:43 01-15-92 31389 <--> 31413
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Er, yes, Sir, merely an attempt at humor of some kind.
Msg #31413 Dated 20:10:48 01-15-92 31399 <--> 31434
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Sheesh! I could have sworn it was the Music City Magic Conclave. But
now I've gone and looked and you is right! It _is_ MCCMS!
Yeah, I gotta get there next year. Will Biro crawl out from under the
table again?
Msg #31418 Dated 20:34:37 01-15-92 -> 31440
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MELINDA
Got a call to watch Hard Copy tonite. According to them, Melinda's
show at the Sahara will close on Feb. 9th. Rumor is that the room will
be taken over by - you guessed it - Rich Little. YETCH!
Msg #31425 Dated 21:13:34 01-15-92 31357 <--> 31427
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
RE: Glitch in IMP,(no...I'm not the FREAK, but will I do?)
Pete, I've followed some of your comments on your ASPECT file.
Did you by any chance, end up with a WAITQUIET statement? If so,
be sure to include FOREVER after the wait period. Procomm uses a
fail-safe where if it doesn't see quiet for fifteen seconds or
so, it ignores the wait and proceeds to the next line. It bit me
too until I figured it out. Should read "WAITQUIET 3 FOREVER".
Hope this helps.
As for Music City, sounds like everyone had a GREAT time! Can
hardly wait for DMS. You going to have any time for us Magic!
guys, or does Joe have you tied up. Am trying to stockpile enough
for SLC. Hey, is "Magic in Training" still on? I don't expect
many Las Vegans are going, but I'll try to drum up some interest
if the Vegas stopover works out.
David (the other one)
Msg #31426 Dated 21:38:15 01-15-92 31383 <--> 31432
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: BOOKS
I'll second that! Steinmeyer book is a MUST! for the serious mage!
You did good in Nashville! Was good to spend some time witcha!
Msg #31427 Dated 21:38:18 01-15-92 31387 <--> 31447
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
There is a race driver in Europe that had an arm cut off by a
helicopter!! ARgh... and they reattached it... word is he might
be racing agian in about six months! whew!
.
Uh... NO IT WASN'T ME THAT CAUGHT THE REAL CARD... A lecture
attendee! Wow!
Msg #31428 Dated 21:38:26 01-15-92 31393 <--> 31429
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
I don't know John M... but had a killer idea a while ago and now
forgot it.... ARgh.... Don't rush.
Msg #31429 Dated 21:38:30 01-15-92 31394 <--> 31469
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Did you see the snow in Detroit and Cleveland? Hargh... the top
dude at Goodyear is NOW COMING to Anaheim... wow... well...
I forced the guys at DRIVE to come up with a money answer in a
few days, toldem I had another offer! Which I sorta do...
Msg #31430 Dated 21:38:35 01-15-92 31395 <--> 31441
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Tommy does not want to TIP... too much competition and he is said
to have a KILLER DEAL AND LOCATION!
Msg #31431 Dated 21:38:39 01-15-92 31396 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LEDERMAN
Dave Moved. I will exit, look up new nr and letcha know in a minute.
Am printing the 300 pages to take with me... takes forever....
Msg #31432 Dated 21:38:42 01-15-92 31398 <--> 31446
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BOOKS
FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR ALL..............
L&L called (Louis that is) and said, "The Klause Book Photos were
the fault of the Manufacturer and THEY AREREPRINTING THE BOOK
WITH NEW PHOTO PLATES!!!"
.
I looked at the artwork for mine tome today and they are coming
great!!! Grate!! And good tooo..... whooooo whooooo
Msg #31433 Dated 21:37:31 01-15-92
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: MESSAGE INDEX
A couple of people suddenly seem to have had some problems with getting
correct information in "These messages are addressed to you" at the
start of a MAGIC! session. I have done a rebuild of the message base
index, which should take care of it. If there are further problems,
please let me know.
Msg #31434 Datd 21:38:51 01-15-92 31399 <--> 31439
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I didn't know there was a spotlight! Har...
.
Just don't tell nobody taht when I got Jake up to help me and
said, "Jake and the FatMan..." it got a laff.... starting my new
diet on this trip... want to get down to my original weight,
7 lbs. 10 ozs!!!!!
Msg #31435 Dated 21:38:58 01-15-92 31405 <--> 31442
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVEN KRAMER (X)
Re: MAX ABRAMS
I am not sure if it have it... will look. I sent him 2 faxes and
called 3 times trying to buy something ARGH..... am going to LA
this weekend and will try to find the dude and break some arms,
or sumpin'
.
I want the boox... he has a file of Pete's Leaflet that I don't
even have...
.
Frank Furkey had a file bound that I autographed for him at the
Nashville do.... argh.....
Msg #31436 Dated 21:39:10 01-15-92 31406 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: BILLION DOLLAR BILL
Right after the Desert Seminar... or sooner if I get to try it on
Lichtman at the Castle... I will upload it... and only expect about
$40 per member of Magic! in form of donation.
Msg #31437 Dated 21:39:14 01-15-92 31409 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: BURT CARPENTER (X)
Re: ANAHEIM
Will see... the problemo I is with client from Ohio and they have
their FAVE spots... will show him this message. Tanks.
Msg #31439 Dated 21:39:36 01-15-92 31413 <--> 31449
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
I will stay under the table so your TT will fool me. MCCMS? Nah...
Msg #31440 Dated 21:39:39 01-15-92 31418 <--> 31450
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MELINDA
Yah, but he will do impression of Melinda and her show. I hope she
is MOVING into a bigger better joint. Altho rumor has it (ask Geno)
that R.L. IS NOT GOING IN and MS is not closing?
.
What is the scoop Geno?
Msg #31441 Dated 21:39:46 01-15-92 31397 <--> 31457
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
GTabsoo... David Williamson: 703-680-6443
3330 Wyndale Ct., Lake Ridge, VA 22192
Msg #31442 Dated 21:39:50 01-15-92 31405 <--> 31473
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVEN KRAMER (X)
Re: MAX ABRAMS
Abrams: phone 213-381-7511
FAX 213-381-1655
Tell him I am wondering???????? ARgh... tell him to bring MY ORDER
TO CASTLE SUNDAY of Annual Meeting PULEEEZE.... ARGH....
Msg #31445 Dated 22:29:22 01-15-92
From: DOC EASON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHAT BOOK?
What Book??? Pity about those broncos...they shoulda won that
game...they outplayed Buffalo...I'll be on the floor of the Houston
Auto show during Super Bowl...I think wash will wipe the floor with
'em. Sorry Harry but I think so..
Msg #31446 Dated 22:37:45 01-15-92 31432 <--> 31461
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOKS
Wow! That reprint of Klause is really some news! Are they going to
offer an exchange to everyone who has the poor copy? Will this make
the poor copies collectors items???
Msg #31447 Dated 22:39:11 01-15-92 31427 <--> 31462
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
A race driver in Europe had an arm cut off by a helicopter??? Sheesh!
That doesn't even sound easy to do! But I'll bet Collector's Workshop
will have a model of it out in a few months.
Msg #31448 Dated 22:39:28 01-15-92 -> 31475
From: DOC EASON
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: WILLIAMSON'S ADR
3330 Wyndale Ct/Lakeridge VA 22192-4318 ph 703-680-6443 I dont know
the fax #...glad to hear that the nashville thing came off so well.
Msg #31449 Dated 22:42:02 01-15-92 31439 <--> 31463
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Best you stay under the table for the bill switch shootout too.
Msg #31450 Dated 22:44:31 01-15-92 31440 <--> 31464
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MELINDA
Apparently, according to Hard Copy, he has incorporated Melinda into
his act, and not in a favorable manner. He says he wants to burn her
house down! Melinda has sued to get him to stop. Last rumor I had was
that he would be taking over the room and Hard Copy alluded to it too.
But sure hope it ain't true!
Msg #31452 Dated 23:47:17 01-15-92 31184 <--> 31453
From: EVAN KATZ
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: M A G I C (1:5)
Oh my God! Hope you are well, David.
Msg #31453 Dated 23:56:47 01-15-92 31452 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: EVAN KATZ (X)
Re: M A G I C (1:5)
Thanks, Evan! Yes, all is well and Nathan has decided that it is not
a good idea to play with the gearshift lever. Anita seems to be
recovering from her wrenched shoulder.
Msg #31454 Dated 0:51:52 01-16-92 31335 <--> 31480
From: RICK KITAMURA
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: MAC HELP
Hi, Scott. No, I didn't make it to Mac Expo, which kills me. I didn't
go because I knew that I would be too tempted to buy everything there.
Since I just bought a Powerbook 140 and flatbed scanner, my computing
allowance is shot for awhile. I would appreciate any feedback on
anything incredible and great that they were showing. Do you think
Quicktime is going to catch on as big as they hope it will? I've been
playing with it a little, and it seems to be a great extension to the
Mac operating system. Bye.
Msg #31456 Dated 1:59:53 01-16-92 31392 <--> 31490
From: MIKE KING
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FRIDAY
Sure, no problem.
Msg #31457 Dated 2:00:38 01-16-92 31397 <--> 31458
From: MIKE KING
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Sounds like great fun. Will give you an extended shout in a few days.
Hope all's well.
Msg #31458 Dated 2:01:25 0116-92 31401 <--> 31470
From: MIKE KING
To: BART BISHOP (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Have mucho fun.
Msg #31459 Dated 3:33:39 01-16-92 -> 31465
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: ALL
Re: MAGIC WAS HIS LIFE
I feel an emptiness deep inside me tonight.
A few weeks ago Jimmy Grippo retired from magic.
Tonight he's gone.
I'll miss him.
Msg #31460 Dated 5:54:07 01-16-92 -> 31466
From: CHARLIE RANDALL
To: ALL
Re: MODEST MAX
Another book to add to Max's list of best is _Focus_. I know Max is
too modest to have included it, so I am.
Charlie
Msg #31461 Dated 8:32:41 01-16-92 31446 <--> 31471
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: BOOKS
Whom Knows what evil lurks in the minds of printers? Just got a fax
from Silvan, in Rome, Italy... he has some EARLY info. on the
rings!!!! He has just finished a huge series of TV Commercials for
Grundig TV sets, posters of him in stores, etc. Big Time!!!
Msg #31462 Dated 8:32:46 01-16-92 31447 <--> 31483
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
You didn't get one yet? ARgh.... was not the blades, but a crash
on the lawn of his parents' Villa in the South of France....
Msg #31463 Dated 8:32:50 01-16-92 31449 <--> 31468
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
ARgh!!! Biro 14- Lichtman 1
Msg #31464 Dated 8:32:53 01-16-92 31450 <--> 31476
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MELINDA
Apparently there is a court order out preventing Little from using
the Video in his act. He is supposedly also being sued by Woody
Allen for using the film from one of his movies without permission.
.
Maybe Geno can straighten this out... Hmmmmmmmmm
Msg #31465 Dated 8:33:00 01-16-92 31459 <--> 31478
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: MAGIC WAS HIS LIFE
Do I read you correctly? Jimmy Grippo has passed away? We will all
miss the man.
.
I was in Las Vegas some time back with some NON MAGICIAN folks. We
were in the coffee shop at Caesars. I spotted Grippo sitting at
a table across the room. I walked over to him to just say hello
and tell him that I liked his book. He asked me if I was alone, I
said no I was with a couple of people. He said can I come over and
do a couple of tricks for them? He did... actually he knocked them
(and ME) for a loop with about a dozen killer effects.
.
He was sooooo goooood.... and so kind......
Msg #31466 Dated 8:33:13 01-16-92 31460 <--> 31479
From: PETE BIRO
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: MODEST MAX
I hope you are not OUT OF FOCUS.... (pun intended)!!!
Msg #31467 Dated 8:33:16 01-16-92
From: PETE BIRO
To: ALL
Re: ITALIAN?
Ee;31460
I have just received 3 pages via fax from an ancient Italian book.
Anyone out there with a fax that can translate this ??? Help....
.
NO RUSH... leave word, as I will be on the road starting in 3 hours
and back here just in time to see the final gun of the Super Bowl.
(Well the Bowl... how could it be called Super without the Raiders
or Broncos???)...
Msg #31468 Dated 8:34:27 01-16-92 31413 <--> 31472
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Next year, Biro will FLY in from the wings!!!
Msg #31469 Dated 8:34:30 01-16-92 31429 <--> 31494
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
Well, you do have another offer, if you'd consider moving to music
city and being the editor of The Music City Conclave News!!!
Msg #31470 Dated 8:34:34 01-16-92 31430 <--> 31477
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
I don't blame him for keeping the TomFoolery location quiet. As for
me, I don't have to know, just go and enjoy after they get it going.
Would imagine it would be a popular spot for the close up and
parlour guys to hang out after a while. Will they be open in late
march???
Msg #31471 Dated 8:34:40 01-16-92 31432 <--> 31482
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOKS
I certainly hope that they will offer an exchange program for the
Klause book since the mfg is doing the reprint.
Msg #31472 Dated 8:34:43 01-16-92 31434 <--> 31484
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Jake was a great kid. He's only 14 and already on his own. His
folks are so scattered that Jake has taken over and is doing it
himself. Of the two 14 year old boys there, the other kid's mom set
his deal up and she came with him. Jake called me a negotiated a
student ticket rate himself and then showed up and paid me with two
crisp twenty dollar bills. Adult with him asks me, "what time do I
come back?" I said after 2am tomorrow. Bye.
Msg #31473 Dated 8:34:51 01-16-92 31435 <--> 31474
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX ABRAMS
Yeah, I saw the leather bound PETE'S LEAFLETS that Frank Furkey had.
Blew me away. I tried to get him to give it to me but he's not
crazy. I liked Frank Furkey. Am glad he came.
Msg #31474 Dated 8:34:55 01-16-92 31442 <--> 31498
From: TABBY CRABB
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MAX ABRAMS
Did you get Abram's ANNEMANN book????????? I hope so cause when I
got his notice I had NO CASH to get the book even though I want it
so badly. I hope you're getting it so I can come out and read it
after the DMS.
Msg #31475 Dated 8:35:00 01-16-92 31448 <-
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DOC EASON (X)
Re: WILLIAMSON'S ADR
Sorry you couldn't make it over to the nashville thing, I know you
wanted to come but it is your BIZZY season what with the bar and
the car show. Thanks for the Davemeisters address. I had his old
one before he moved. Maybe when you retire you can come over to
Music City in January and hang out. Bring your golf clubs and
come in a few days early.
Msg #31476 Dated 8:35:07 01-16-92 31450 <--> 31486
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MELINDA
I would bet that if the thing is true that Melinda's folk could
get another room for the show close to Little so they could duel
it out (crowd wise).
Msg #31477 Dated 8:35:11 01-16-92 31457 <--> 31491
From: TABBY CRABB
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Am recovering and now working on 1993 Conclave and waiting for
1992 operating capital to show up next week. Plans are to build
the new shop incorporating a new metal lathe, saw and milling
machine as well as larger wood saw, lathe, joiner/miller and some
other shoppy stuff. Gloria talked me into waiting on the ranch
thing and invest the money in the Conjurors' Woodworks (how many
wives would do this???) and try to go to as many conventions as
possible to promote our shop craft so I guess I'll be working for
a while longer. We were talking about coin ladders, well Tommy
Downs' coin ladder is here in central tennessee. It is almost 7
feet tall.
Msg #31478 Dated 8:35:22 01-16-92 31459 <--> 31481
From: TABBY CRABB
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: MAGIC WAS HIS LIFE
Oh wow!
Grippo is finally gone.
Geno had told us he was down and almost out in Music City.
In a way, I know it is a relief for Jimmy. It had been hard since
the attack.
I will miss just knowing he is there in Vegas doing magic.
Aloha, Jimmy Grippo.
See you on the other side.
Msg #31479 Dated 8:35:30 01-16-92 31460 <--> 31526
From: TABBY CRABB
To: CHARLIE RANDALL (X)
Re: MODEST MAX
I agree Charlie. FOCUS. A great book. It is on tabman's twenty
foot shelf. Do you have time to write up the MCCMS for Genii, MAGIC,
mags??
Msg #31480 Dated 9:04:02 01-16-92 31454 <--> 31533
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: RICK KITAMURA (X)
Re: MAC HELP
I did not see quicktime there, but I did not know what to look for. I
only spent one day there running between the halls. the HOTTEST thing
there is the Vide o Toster! also, MS-Word 5.0 plus other 3-D rendering
products. I bought a customer contact thing called ACT. that will ship
in May. Plus Pixar was there and I bought a vid of their cartoons (tin
toy, etc.) won 3 tee-shirts and got a demo of FOXBASE+/Mac. Like you I
don't have a budget for these. BTW where you at?
Msg #31481 Dated 10:41:56 01-16-92 31459 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: MAGIC WAS HIS LIFE
A great loss to the World of Magic. Thanks to Geno Munari, I had a
chance to have an extended lunch with Jimmy a couple of years ago. The
attack (for those who don't know, he was mugged and badly beaten; he
said, "Why did they have to beat an old man? I would have given them
the money.") had left him with a great deal of chronic pain, but he was
still incredible. He did miracles throughout lunch and Geno kept
saying, "Hey, why don't you show him the good stuff." A light has gone
out here, but the Heavens have a new star.
Msg #31482 Dated 10:47:51 01-16-92 31461 <--> 31496
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: BOOKS
I'm used to upgrades in software, but I've never seen an upgrade in a
book (except, of course, for the kind of upgrade where the encyclopedia
people send you an annual). Glad that L&L and Klause were able to get
the printer to do it over.
RE: Silvan doing commercials for Grundig. Good to hear that a mage is
workin' a big job! Hey, you think he can get me a discount on one of
their top of the line shortwave radios?
Msg #31483 Dated 10:51:06 01-16-92 31462 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CHRIS CARTER'S ADDRESS
You kiddin'? If Collectors Workshop put it out, I can't afford it!
Msg #31484 Dated 10:52:17 01-16-92 31463 <--> 31485
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
RE: Biro 14 - Lichtman 1
Surprised you only gave yourself 14 (although I guess that is 13 more
than you gave me and 13 is a magic number). Did you also already award
yourself the horns and the tail? Don't get too cocky Biro, you ain't
out of the woods yet.
Msg #31485 Dated 10:54:14 01-16-92 31468 <--> 31493
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
RE: "Next year, Biro will fly in from the wings."
Yeah. Maybe by next year we can teach you to zip your fly.
Msg #31486 Dated 10:55:24 01-16-92 31464 <--> 31487
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MELINDA
I thought she (Melinda) had the tape! It is a crummy situation and I
feel badly for Melinda.
Msg #31487 Dated 10:57:49 01-16-92 31476 <--> 31502
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MELINDA
In truth, although it was a big name hotel, etc. I always felt that the
stage at the Sahara was inadequate for Melinda and her show. It was
like a cinemascope theater with a low ceiling. Hopefully, she will be
able to move to a bigger and better venue.
Msg #31488 Dated 10:44:05 01-16-92 -> 31503
From: DAVID LUTHER
To: ALL
Re: ANOTHER LOSS...
I have some more sad news for the magic community. On Tuesday night,
H. Adrian Smith passed away. Although his name is not as widely
recognized as Jimmy Grippo, his accomplishments and contributions to
magic would rate among the highest of any. Smith was National President
of the Society of American Magicians in 1940, and followed that by
being elected National President of the International Brotherhood of
Magicians in 1948. At the time of his death he was the Dean of the
SAM. A really good insite to tis man can be found in the July 1948
issue of the Linking Ring, article on page 23 entitled "A GUY NAMED
SMITH". He complied a very large magic library, and has left his
etate to Brown University, from which he graduated in 1930. In 1948
his book collection was described as "one of the finest private
collections of magic books to be found anywhere in the world." Funeral
services 10AM Friday, January 17th, 1992, Butterfield Funeral Home,
500 Pontiac Avenue, Cranston, Rhode Island (funeral home #
401-461-0151). A meeting has been set up with a representative of
Brown University by Charles Harrison, Smith's executor, to insure that
Smith's wish that the library be made available to all magicians for
research/reading is carried out.
Special Note to all SAM presidents/secretaries..... if time and
local assembly budget permits you might want to send flowers to funeral
in name of your local assembly.
.
H. ADRIAN SMITH 9/17/08 - 1/14/92
Msg #31490 Dated 11:03:14 01-16-92 31456 <--> 31492
From: MARVIN STERN
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: FRIDAY
Forget it this Fri. No guests. See you there.
Msg #31491 Dated 11:10:09 01-16-92 31477 <--> 31495
From: MIKE KING
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Still interested in Coin Ladder. But not one seven feet tall!!!! As
stated earlier, will give an long call via Ma Bell soon. Take care.
Msg #31492 Dated 11:11:16 01-16-92 31490 <-
From: MIKE KING
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: FRIDAY
O.K. you're the boss, boss. See ya there.
Msg #31493 Dated 12:25:55 01-16-92 31468 <--> 31497
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
What Wings??? Wings...???
Msg #31494 Dated 12:25:59 01-16-92 31469 <--> 31811
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: NASHVILLE
MCCN News... at 11?
.
Couldn't call 911 as there is NO ELEVEN on my phone!
Msg #31495 Dated 12:26:03 01-16-92 31470 <--> 31504
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: LAS VEGAS MAGIC BAR
Darned if I know? Will ask him this week.
Msg #31496 Dated 12:26:06 01-16-92 31471 <--> 31500
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: BOOKS
I want the bad one. As it is big on thumb tips and that is only
way to keep 'em invisible. Work in the dark. Under a table!
Msg #31497 Dated 12:26:10 01-16-92 31472 <--> 31501
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: TRIUMPH, ONE STEP FURTHER
Keep an eye on that dude... make sure we don't lose trak o' Jake!
Msg #31498 Dated 12:26:13 01-16-92 31473 <--> 31499
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAX ABRAMS
Leather bound...sounds like an old Crosby Hope movie!
Msg #31499 Dated 12:26:16 01-16-92 31474 <--> 31515
From: PETE BIRO
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: MAX ABRAMS
Which Annemann book? Be pacific... I dunno, I sent a list and did
not keep a copy and he ain't replied... argh...
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