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Msg #35000 Dated 12:20:02 02-26-92 -> 35012
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: SKED
MAGIC! is scheduled at DMS for 5 pm Friday -- as Joe sed it gives us
more time to let folks know and more time to run our session. GOOOOOOD
Msg #35001 Dated 12:29:41 02-26-92 34982 <--> 35807
From: PETE BIRO
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: DISKETTES
Sounds like you are in deep ship...
Msg #35002 Dated 12:29:45 02-26-92 34999 <--> 35016
From: PETE BIRO
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
To: Lynn Healy... are you sure they don't have lox burritos? How
ya doin? Havn't had sushi lately, but last night I undercooked the
chicken a little... so was almost raw... (just kidding)!
.
Not much happening here... trying to finish signing all the acts
for Salt Lake City... got some surprises. New illusion will blow
em away... Guy has what I thought a Zombie Ball, walks up onto
a high, elevated platform, held up with four Greek Columns. Very
simple. He poses... the ball comes in two and he is left holding
a large silvery foulard. Up in front of him, chest high. LESS THAN
1 SECOND he whips it aside and there is a girl floating there.
Sudden appearance. AGA set up... now way to figure where she comes
from. Base of course... but is super thin and above stage about
six feet.
.
She does usual up and down, Blaney Hoop, then he covers her...
ala Asrah... and POOF she is gone...
.
I'm telling you... Jay Marshall, Bill Wells, Obie O'Brien and Joe
Stevens... all sitting watching the tape SHOUTED... WHOA... PLAY
THAT AGAIN...WOW...
.
He also does a stunt where a card is chosen, he produces a huge
bird (Cocatoo?)... throws the cards high in the air, the bird flies
out, thru the cards and grabs one from the air... lands on his
shoulder... and YEP... is the chosen card. Superb stuff.
.
Name witheld until IBM ad breaks... hahahaha... later
Msg #35004 Dated 14:45:36 02-26-92 34996 <--> 35013
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ARGH! IN TECHY HEAVEN
Sesame street can be very uplifting when you are sick.
Msg #35005 Dated 14:49:18 02-26-92 34928 <--> 35006
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
or how bout where his picture was placed in the entry way of the
Close-up Gallery?
Msg #35006 Dated 14:51:23 02-26-92 34944 <--> 35034
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Sometimes I wish I could do just that to performers who BLATENTLY steal
others material. also, to the birthday clown who drastically underbids
a party "just to get work"
Msg #35007 Dated 15:11:43 02-26-92 34951 <--> 35030
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
It might have been that you hit a Filespec command first -- and then it
would only show files that met that spec, which might be none.
Msg #35008 Dated 15:17:27 02-26-92 34983 <--> 35014
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: DISKETTES
Of course you have to enter a specific command for a 1.44 drive to
format at 720, otherwise you SHOULD get error message.
Msg #35012 Dated 16:32:22 02-26-92 35000 <--> 35080
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
Congratulations on sending the 35,000th message this year!
5 p.m. on Friday sounds VERY GOOD for the MAGIC! session at DMS. If
you have the complete schedule (and haven't already done so, since I
just logged on and started reading) perhaps you can either post it or
fax it to me?
And please tell Joe THANKS!
Msg #35013 Dated 16:35:50 02-26-92 35004 <--> 35015
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: ARGH! IN TECHY HEAVEN
Yeah, Sesame Street ain't bad when you are feelin' sick. Mr. Rogers is
even better. And Sherri Lewis is back! On PBS in the mornings,
Lambchop and all. Fortunately, I got a little MAGIC! work done too and
got the message base at least reduced a little. The back message files
are now in the FILES area.
Msg #35014 Dated 16:37:46 02-26-92 35008 <--> 35042
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: DISKETTES
Naturellement, mon ami. But I'd already gone over the proper command
for fomatting 720's with him. A reminder doesn't hurt though.
Msg #35015 Dated 16:56:48 02-26-92 34996 <--> 35017
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ARGH! IN TECHY HEAVEN
Guess this means I ain't gonna see ya at the Castle tonight, huh?
Msg #35016 Dated 16:55:09 02-26-92 34999 <--> 35043
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
TO: LYNN HEALY
VIA: MAGIC-NL/NETHERLANDS
Seems to me that there is a Goldstein's Kosher Chinese Resturant in New
York. No, they don't have sour cream and lox chow mein either!
But a lox, onion, and egg burrito would be pretty terrific! Think I'll
try making one if I can ever afford any lox.
Isn't lox sort of Jewish sushi anyway?
Msg #35017 Dated 16:58:33 02-26-92 35015 <--> 35020
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: ARGH! IN TECHY HEAVEN
Nope, I don't think you are going to be seeing me at the Castle tonite!
Be sure to catch Les and Terri's act!
Msg #35020 Dated 19:09:03 02-26-92 35017 <--> 35068
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMA (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ARGH! IN TECHY HEAVEN
I shall. I'll give you a report.
Msg #35021 Dated 19:16:00 02-26-92
From: GARY PLANTS
To: MICHAEL AMMAR (X)
Re: HEY
Hey Mike,
Hope things are going OK for you and Hannah. Just wanted to drop you
a quick line and see if you got the "tape"? The Magi-Fest was real
good this year. Had lots of fun in the Precurser Suite with Eric Mead.
Ann told me you wanted to know something about a trick from a long
time ago. Remind me.
Msg #35022 Dated 19:17:59 02-26-92 -> 35069
Frm: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: EMPLOYMENT
Would you like to be a travel agent? Then you could help me figure out
how I am going to get Pete Biro around the world six times cheap!
Msg #35023 Dated 19:18:46 02-26-92
From: GARY PLANTS
To: TABBY CRABB (X)
Re: HI
Hey Tabby,
What's new? Got any new books lately?
Msg #35029 Dated 19:42:59 02-26-92 -> 35085
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: ALL
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Is there anyone going to DMS for Friday and Saturday night ONLY? I
would like to share my room - oh, crud! How do I put this? Okay,
let's see. I am NOT looking for a bed partner! I am simply going to
be coming to Vegas alone, and frankly, that thought scares me half to
death. Here's the deal. I am a travel agent and for ME the rate is
$69 per night. I have to leave Saturday night, but what I would do is
check in Friday night using my I.D. and then if anyone wanted to stay
Saturday they could just stay under my name and we would pay when we
checked in Friday (I pay $69 and you pay $69). Ideally, I would like
another female to share with but they seem to be in pretty short supply
around here. Soooo...I am pretty liberal, and this would be for
convention purposes ONLY! Do I make myself CLEAR??? Besides, I am
happily married and want to stay that way. So why am I offering to
share a room? Because I'm SCARED to be alone in Vegas. And that's
about it!
Msg #35030 Dated 19:56:31 02-26-92 34806 <--> 35036
From: CY KELLER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I had a blank line in my message, so the following was omitted on
the Format problem.
.
This can be done with a word processor. The rename your Format
file NEWDISK.COM. It's almost impossible to format a "C" Drive.
This is of course most important.
Msg #35031 Dated 19:56:41 02-26-92 34828 <--> 35039
From: CY KELLER
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
We had some great times at Yogi (no "e"). I remember one night I
had someone call out a number and then someone call out the name
of a card. Count to the number and the card was there. Your woman
of the evening was one of the assistants.
.
Another night we had Scotty York, Tim Conover and a lot of other
heavies. I think Schwazman worked too. For others listening in,
the Yogi club was run by Phil Thomas as an adjunct to the Yogi Magic
Mart - his shop.
.
Do miss Frank Thompson's Optimo Sport cigars.
Msg #35032 Dated 19:56:57 02-26-92 34745 <--> 35058
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NO MAGI ONLINE?
Great handling of the card fountain. It is one of the GREAT
EFFECTS!!!!!!
Msg #35033 Dated 19:57:03 02-26-92 34899 <--> 35041
From: CY KELER
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
TA - I haven't seen much of this stuff, so I am really out of my
depth. Sorry about trying to be knowledgeable.
.
Irv Weiner, for people visiting back stage cuts this thumb and then
heals it. He also stops the blood in his arm on stage. Looks good.
Msg #35034 Dated 19:57:12 02-26-92 34911 <--> 35035
From: CY KELLER
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Bob and J.C. developed their magic together and I'm sure neither
could say who was the creator of an effect or line. Song writers
and lyricists creat a song together. Whos is it?
.
One of my favorite stories. Mrs Hammerstein was at a party and
introduced as the wife of the man who wrote Old Man River. The
person said "I'm glad to meet you Mrs. Kern". Mrs. Hammerstein
replied "No Jerome Kern wrote Dum Dum Du Dum. My husband Oscar wrote
Old Man River."
Msg #35035 Dated 19:57:26 02-26-92 34914 <--> 35037
From: CY KELLER
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
TA - They really object to credits? Strange!! Agree completely on
your comments. Right on!!!
Msg #35036 Dated 19:57:32 02-26-92 34920 <--> 35059
From: CY KELLER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Some of us don't know how to change the ER;xxx opening to a reply
to start a new thread or how to send a private message. Some
documentation would help.
Msg #35037 Dated 19:57:39 02-26-92 34941 <--> 35040
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Your phone bills are that high? I call from the East Coast and
don't spend half that much.
Msg #35039 Dated 20:15:41 02-26-92 34942 <--> 35047
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
I would like to meet the guy who saw 42 hours of he master
deck. I think it was a patter line. If anyone knows it will be
Jeff Altman who spent a lot of time with Frank when he should
have been studying at Hopkins.
.
Spoke with Jeff last night. He said that the final sho of
"Nurses" was going to be shot today. I guess he's in for a
vacation with Leslie. maybe more time to visit with friends.
.
S
ER;34944
Conway rope is great. Bob Sheets did it in my living room, and I
had no answer, even though I thought I knew all about 3 to 1
effects. Agree with all you say.
Msg #35040 Dated 20:16:00 02-26-92 34945 <--> 35063
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Hey Pete - what about us guys who want some security and
choose to make a living in the business world? This year I'm retiring
and will get a chance to be what I've always wanted to be - a
MAGICIAN!!!. There are some semi-pros who aint bad. The passion
is there but the security, and raising a family are important.
Msg #35041 Dated 20:16:09 02-26-92 34973 <--> 35061
From: CY KELLER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Max, as I explained to TA, my knowlege is limited in this fiel.
I wish I had never gotten into the discussion.
Msg #35042 Dated 20:16:16 02-26-92 34991 <--> 35064
From: CY KELLER
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: DISKETTES
It sounds like you do NOT have a 1.44. Check your documentation
to see how to format the low denity disks.
Msg #35043 Dated 20:16:22 02-26-92 35002 <--> 35065
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGE
This guy with the cocatoo was on TV. Forget name but its an
effect nobody much is copying I sure.
.
Speaking of TV, I taped Michael Moschen's hour long juggling
special on PBS. Just great stuff. Glass balls, Triangle and a lot
of other strange stuff.
Msg #35046 Dated 20:39:33 02-26-92 -> 35090
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: SCHEDULE
Stacey,
Here is my latest info:
Friday
9:30 Aldo Columbini and Lennart Green show and lectures
(alternate groups)
11:00 Rene Lavand show and lecture (group A)
11:00 Finn Jon show and lecture (group B)
1:30 Comedy Challenge Show #2
7:30 All-star closeup show
10:00 S & R at the Mirage (extra charge event)
Saturday
9:30 Aldo and Lennart again (alternate groups)
11:00 Finn Jon (group A)
11:00 Rene Lavand (group B)
2:00 S & R backstage tour
7:30 Early Lance Burton (extra charge)
9:30 Party at the Hacienda
10:30 Late Lance Burton (extra charge)
By all means try to make as much as you can! It's a
shame you are apparently going to miss the contests, as
I always find this the best part of the convention.
Personally I hope to see S&R earlier in the week and
therefore have Friday open to see one of the other
shows in town. Have a ticket for the late Lance Burton
on Saturday. Of course, magic goes on LATE each night
at the Trop because of so many magicians around, and
this is also a great thing to partake of.
Msg #35047 Dated 20:54:51 02-26-92 35039 <--> 35091
From: MAX MAVEN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Actually, Frank's claim for the Master Deck was that the total amount
of material clocked in at 80 hours. I never saw all of it... but what
I did see was substantial.
I spent a lot of time with Frank Thompson during his last several years
(his mother lived in the Boston area, so he spent a lot of time up
there), and the one thing that remained constant was that whenever he
made a claim which sounded fanciful he was able to back it up.
Msg #35050 Dated 21:47:37 02-26-92 34563 <-
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: FARE TO SLC FROM LAX OR O
I understand, and look forward to the day.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35051 Dated 21:47:45 02-26-92 34564 <--> 35076
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CAMILLE PAGLIA
Yeah! My wife's family (including my wife) can't understand that
I, even now, have an aversion to clothes as a gift. If it is
something that was made by the gift-giver it is a different
story. There, how's that for a magic subject?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35052 Dated 21:47:54 02-26-92 34575 <--> 35077
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Yeah, like explosives! When did you say Nathan's
birthday was again?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35053 Dated 21:48:01 02-26-92 34594 <--> 35054
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MONKEYSHINES
I kept saying to myself the whole time "What a group, why are
they playing for HIM?"
Like the man says, I don't say I know what's good, but I know
what I like.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35054 Dated 21:48:10 02-26-92 34595 <--> 35092
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MONKEYSHINES
Pete,
What happens at three strikes?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35055 Dated 21:48:17 02-26-92 34631 <--> 35093
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: CRICHTON
T. A.,
There was a movie I watched one time called "Romantic Comedy"
which was forgettable except for one line I've never forgotten:
"The opposite of success in comedy is not failure. the opposite
of success in comedy is embarassment."
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35057 Dated 21:48:33 02-26-92 34637 <--> 35117
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Stacey,
I think I can handle unbiased, uh, what was that other one
again....
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35058 Dated 21:48:41 02-26-92 34658 <--> 35094
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NO MAGI ONLINE?
Pete,
Some of us don't read our mail as often as we used to, now that
we have gainful employment. I would have thought you would
understand. Okay, assuming no one else has asked, (I'll probably
find it later) what's the gag? I can think of three ways of
doing it. I'd be interested in seeing your fourth.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35059 Dated 21:48:50 02-26-92 34660 <--> 35070
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
David,
I gotta tell ya, I agree with Joe on this one. I also agree that
Nathan is a special kid. I've seen him sit through a show
without a peep. But you don't know how many dinners, plays,
movies, shows ad nauseum have been ruined for me by kids whose
parents thought they would behave themselves.
I haven't been able to come up with a good compromise. How does
one show that one's kid is not going to ruin it for everyone?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35060 Dated 21:49:00 02-26-92 34721 <--> 35505
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: STEPHEN OSBORN (X)
Re: NEW ONBOARD
Stephen,
As one of the newest members of the Castle, I'll partially answer
your question.
It is a great deal of fun to watch someone's face light up when
you mention the castle. To then be able to give that person a
guest pass to go to a place they'd only heard of is wonderful.
I haven't had much opportunity to take advantage yet, but members
also get library priveledges. Being able to research in the
Castle library is worth the price of admission.
As a political consultant, it is fun to take prospective clients
to the Castle, and flash a card to get in.
Besides the things you mentioned, parking is cheaper as a member.
If you go 7 times a month, parking alone pays for your
membership.
It fills me with enjoyment to go to the Castle, and find people I
know. To have someplace to sit and chat. Great fun.
Hope that answer some of your question.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35061 Dated 21:49:11 02-26-92 34792 <--> 35073
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Pete,
Here's one for you. I produce a rubber dove, have it sit up on a
perch, and then it talks to me, and does other things throughout
the act. Hint: Jerry might like this one.
After I'm done, I tell the audience that this is not really a
dove, and open it up to produce a real hamster.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35063 Dated 21:49:29 02-26-92 34941 <--> 35078
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Pete,
When I wrote my own download/upload program for MAGIC! my phone
bills went down to under $100/month. Now with PCPursuit, my
phone bills have dropped to 18-20 dollars.
Think about it.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35064 Dated 21:49:38 02-26-92 34980 <--> 35215
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: HARRISON CARROLL (X)
Re: DISKETTES
Harrison,
I don't suppose you are sure that the version format you have is
the same as the version of DOS you have.
I've run into your problem when someone copied old dos commands
onto a new dos version.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35065 Dated 21:49:46 02-26-92 34999 <--> 35089
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: ARNAUD VANRIETSCHOTEN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Arnaud,
Please post this message for Lynn Healy.
Lynn,
I think you've hit upon an interesting combination of foods.
Think it'll go over well in the Netherlands?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35068 Dated 22:28:22 02-26-92 35020 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: ARGH! IN TECHY HEAVEN
Great! Will look forward to your Castle report.
Msg #35069 Daed 22:29:06 02-26-92 35022 <--> 35081
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: EMPLOYMENT
Thanks, it is a tempting offer, Stacey, but I think I'll stick with the
kinds of things I do now. Pete is not kidding! Those are real flights
he's booking.
Msg #35070 Dated 22:34:26 02-26-92 35030 <--> 35071
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELER (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Yep, truly blank lines are a no-no when sending messages to MAGIC! The
line has to have something on it - a couple of "blank" spaces will do.
Anyway, yes, it was a nice batch file and was pretty protective. I
rather liked it.
Msg #35071 Dated 22:36:38 02-26-92 35036 <--> 35072
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
The real documentation for MAGIC!, a 40-page book called Passport to
MAGIC!(tm) is currently being revised. I hope to have it ready for DMS
and hope to be shipping it to others thereafter. Jerry is putting some
preliminary documentation for IMP! together as well. Right now, I've
got a heck of a headache/sinus attack, so please pardon brief
responses.
Msg #35072 Dated 22:38:40 02-26-92 35059 <--> 35079
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I know it is tough to do on a case by case basis. And, of course, we
are always ready to whip Nathan out of any venue in which could
misbehave, although he never has when it comes to a magic show. I just
know that he is going to be heartbroken not to be able to attend DMS
shows.
Msg #35073 Dated 22:41:56 02-26-92 35061 <--> 35086
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Now that sounds GREAT, Kevin! I love the hamster bit!
Msg #35076 Dated 22:48:52 02-26-92 35051 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CAMILLE PAGLIA
Yep - gifts should be stuff like magic books, videos, etc., not
clothes. There, that connected it back to magic.
Msg #35077 Dated 22:50:26 02-26-92 35052 <--> 35166
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Nathan's birthday is September 19th. Last year he planned the party,
including the guest list (all kids in his age bracket), the
entertainment (Clownzo and himself), and the design and composition of
the cake. He hasn't confided this year's plans to me yet.
Msg #35078 Dated 22:53:41 02-26-92 35005 <--> 35087
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Who's picture in what Close Up gallery?
Msg #35079 Dated 22:53:44 02-26-92 35007 <--> 35101
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Duh, no files, no specs... right... more care... Well, my first
ever issue of DRIVE! Magazine shipped to the printer tonight. Hah.
And I am still alive. And I guess it is ok to have a job. I guess
I will be able to use the MAC when it comes next week or so... the
word is I will have a Superdrive (?) and it reads DOS stuff, whatever
that meeeeeens.... hah....
Msg #35080 Dated 22:53:51 02-26-92 35012 <--> 35098
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
I thought Wells posted it some time ago? Mmmmmm will look and see
if I got one... if so will do tonite after Star Trek... I hope the
Part II that I was engrossed in last nite is on tonite... argh...
Msg #35081 Dated 22:53:55 02-26-92 35022 <--> 35148
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: EMPLOYMENT
I have already been around the world. Well, LAX/KUAII/TOKYO/ALASKA
PARIS/NICE/LONDON/LAX on one trip. Did three shows. Two in Tokyo
and one in Nice at the Sporting Club... Oh, one more... in London
at Ron Macmillan's Day of Magic. Tough trip. Was 12 years ago and
am still tired.
Msg #35085 Dated 22:54:21 02-26-92 35029 <--> 35100
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
I know someone that MIGHT be interested. A lady, so there. Not
sure if she is going at all right now... will know in two days.
Msg #35086 Dated 22:54:25 02-26-92 35033 <--> 35103
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
I used to do the Cut Thumb bit with real blood it is very very
strong... I had forgotten about that bit. Gee, seems like it was
ANOTHER lifetime ago... argh...
Msg #35087 Dated 22:54:29 02-26-92 35037 <--> 35088
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Not just for MAGIC! it is my entire phone bill. I don't wish to
break it down... but just recently signed on for Reach Out...
something, with ATT... and it seeeeems muuuuuch lower....
Msg #35088 Dated 22:54:34 02-26-92 35040 <--> 35095
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
I chickened out too... kept shooting photos for a living as the
amount of time I spent with the camera - compared to the magic -
paid about 30 times more!!! And had some very steady clients.
Still do.... and had "retired" to live on the ocean and write my
books, do magic, etc. until that piece of paper from the process
server got me... now am broke and had to take a mundane new day
job... starting ALL OVER in a new job at "beginner's" pay....
.
Sux
Msg #35089 Dated 22:5444 02-26-92 35043 <--> 35096
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Was one of the great shows... fellow MAGIC!er, Kevin Curtain sent
me a copy....
Msg #35090 Dated 22:54:47 02-26-92 35046 <--> 35157
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SCHEDULE
You left out the MAGIC! Computer session at 5 pm on Friday.
Msg #35091 Dated 22:54:50 02-26-92 35047 <--> 35132
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Frank was one of the greats. I didn't see him a lot, but enough to
realize this guy really knew his stuff. I don't recall the actual
title (time?) of the Master Deck, but many thought it a put on,
but I understand he could really work for great lengths of time.
.
Here is a query for you and/or T A... Silvan faxed me mentioning
an author: Tomaso Garzoni. Books by him are circa 1601 and 1613.
Any ideas on what they contained, or what they are?
Msg #35092 Dated 22:54:59 02-26-92 35054 <--> 35159
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MONKEYSHINES
You are out, dude... at least til the next inning!!!
Msg #35093 Dated 22:55:02 02-26-92 35055 <--> 35160
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CRICHTON
Who said, "If I write a book on how to fail, if it sells well,
was I a failure?"
Msg #35094 Dated 22:55:06 02-26-92 35058 <--> 35161
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: NO MAGI ONLINE?
If you are talking about the Neff Rope trick? I have a method I
once lectured on where the short piece of rope does not go up
the sleeve, but is rolled into a small ball by a mechanical "Silk
to Ball" device and the ball is just kept in the palm.
.
When I get into an effect I almost always devise about 3 or 4 ways
to do it... so it can be done under various circumstances.
Msg #35095 Dated 22:55:14 02-26-92 35063 <--> 35105
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
I will think about it... I just don't know nuttn about PCPursuit.
Duh.... I log onto magic for downloads on the average 3 times a
day and reply 3 times. Each call is usually UNDER 1-minute using
IMP!
Msg #35096 Dated 22:55:20 02-26-92 35065 <--> 35109
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
The Bali, in Amsterdam has the hottest Ristaffle (Rice Table) in
the woild... argh... we had a great time there the first time.
.
I was with the Editor of Car and Driver Magazine... a very astute
dude... we asked the waiter what the "special of the house was"
He said, "Ristaffle... it has fruit, rice, beef, chicken, bananas,
pork, more rice, monkey, nuts, mushrooms.... etc." David said,
"OK, you talked us into it... make it TWO Ristaffles, but HOLD THE
MONKEY!"
.
I still double up with laffter whenever I recall that scene.
Msg #35098 Dated 22:58:05 02-26-92 35080 <--> 35147
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
The final, final DMS schedule ain't been posted by nobody yet (unless
you have done it while I'm reading - its possible). Thanks.
Msg #35100 Dated 23:22:13 02-26-92 35029 <--> 35118
From: T A WATERS
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
You live in southern California and you're afraid to be alone in VEGAS?
Msg #35101 Dated 23:23:56 02-26-92 35072 <--> 35102
Fro: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I have, of course, only met Nathan once -- but on that occasion he
behaved better -- and was a more interesting conversationalist -- than
a lot of "adult" magicians I know.
Msg #35102 Dated 23:25:04 02-26-92 35079 <--> 35107
From: T A WATERS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
No, Pete, don't do it -- hold out for a NeXT...
Msg #35103 Dated 23:27:11 02-26-92 35061 <--> 35104
From: T A WATERS
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
With a few alterations, a rubber dove makes an excellent wet suit for
a real dove.
Msg #35104 Dated 0:16:23 02-27-92 34946 <--> 35153
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
RE: Blister.
.
No that's not pretenious, it's PETEteniuos. I would have expected
nothing less from you. Maybe you should barf some ectoplasm on the
table to add a little mystery and prove that you were truly posessed.
Msg #35105 Dated 0:20:20 02-27-92 34914 <--> 35110
From: JERRY BURTON
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Have you found cases where the 'creator' (i.e. the writer) really
did creat an effect that someone else had already published without
his knowledge.
.
Conversely, do some writers try to take credit for prior obscure
publications that only a few know about. If yes - that wpuld seem to
be the worst kind of stealing.
Msg #35107 Dated 0:20:28 02-27-92 35072 <--> 35131
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Why don't you just paint a Charlie McCarthy mouth on him, put a
wig on him, carry him in under your arm, sit him on your lap, and go
as a ventriloquist.
Msg #35109 Dated 0:20:34 02-27-92 35043 <--> 35119
From: JERRY BURTON
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Yo Cy - I had taped that about a month ago - isn't it great !
Msg #35110 Dated 0:20:36 02-27-92 35063 <--> 35142
From: JERRY BURTON
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
What is PCPursuit ? I checked on Reach out Calif and its an ATT
product that only applies to calls outside your principal service
area. Since Arleta is within my service area it doesn't apply.
.
I'm considering having one of my business lines converted to a
personal line so I can get PacBell's extended calling rate which
costs $ 6.75/mo (gives $ 8.50 free plus 25 % off the regular rates)
only drawback is it only applies after 9 pm
Msg #35117 Dated 2:20:46 02-27-92 34637 <-
From: ANTHONY BLAKE
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: COPPERFIELD
Stacey...
In my opinion, even though Dickens was a very good writer, Copperfield
was not his premier work...I'll have to defer to A Christmas Carol or
Bleak House. Nicholas Nicklby (sp?) was a far second to those above
(why hasn't anyone taken up that name for a magic moniker?). I would
rather talk about the works of Vladimir Nabokov instead though, how
'bout that Lolita, huh?
Tony (aka Blindo the Bleary Eyed Reader)
Msg #35118 Dated 2:47:23 02-27-92 35029 <--> 35152
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
Stacey,
Sounds like quite a deal! Too bad I live here or I'd take you up
on your kind offer. Don't worry about being alone in Vegas,
you'll be too busy trying to find time to sleep! I know you don't
know me (yet!) but I've been lurking here for over a year now, I
just don't talk much.
I'm looking forward to meeting the (In)famous Stacey and the rest
of the gang at DMS as I **_finally registered!_**
This is a first for me, as usually as soon as I register, I'm
scheduled to go out of town, (it's happened now four out of the
last five years). I finally convinced them that I'd be more
valuable to them at home this year (and they bought it!).
Sorry I can't help with the room, but I'll be happy to show you
(and anyone else that can fit in the van) the sights while you're
here.
David (the other one)
Msg #35119 Dated 2:47:40 02-27-92 35043 <--> 35156
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Drat! I missed it again? I've been trying for a couple of years
now to catch Michael's TV show. Any chance of bringing a tape of
it to DMS? I'd LOVE to see it. I'd have it back to you the same
day. PUHLEEEEEEEEZE?
Humbly yours,
David (the other one)
Msg #35120 Dated 2:47:47 02-27-92 -> 35143
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: ALL
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Sorry, I haven't been on much lately, been too busy playing
(working?) with my new toys to talk. I just converted to Windows
3.0 (sorry Pete, will you ever forgive me?) and I'm having a
BLAST!
Talk about when it rains it pours!
My arsenal now includes:
PageMaker
PhotoStyler
Publisher's Paintbrush
Corel Draw
and a color printer should land on the doorstep next week.
Now I hope I live long enough to learn how to use this stuff!
Oh yeah, last week I installed a Truevision VideoVGA display
card, allowing me to output VGA text and graphics directly to a
TV monitor and/or VCR. It comes with something called TITLER, so
now I can add credits and titles to my videos.
I finally enjoy going to work. David, (it's too late for this
year, but) if you like, I can work it out so several room
monitors can display MAGIC! in action. I'm experimenting with
recording a sample session just to see how it looks. If it works,
I'll send you a copy. Maybe next year's session could include
this.
See you at DMS!
David (the other one)
Msg #35122 Dated 7:06:35 02-27-92 34835 <--> 35123
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
...and then he molds the aluminum foil into thumb tips, which he
sells to novice magicians who wish to learn the Bill Switch!
Msg #35123 Dated 7:06:44 02-27-92 34836 <--> 35128
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
I have no idea when the MAGIC! session is...I saw a message from
El Petro that indicated he had a FAX from Amy changing it from 5 pm
to 9 am. Dunno nothing else. When I was in Wichita, I asked that
it be scheduled for 5 pm on Friday.
Msg #35124 Dated 7:06:57 02-27-92 34837 <--> 35192
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MY NOTEBOOK
That sounds even better than a top change...a room change...did you
blink when you did it? I wouldn't recommend applying overhead
projectors to all effects...I mean, the super-X overhead projector
might be OK, but the multipling overhead projectors could get
cumbersome.
Msg #35128 Dated 7:07:27 02-27-92 34845 <--> 35177
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
I dunno nothing bout the schedule change on the MAGIC! sesssion. I
did not get the FAX you said you got.
Msg #35129 Dated 7:07:35 02-27-92 34848 <--> 35179
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ODDEST PARAGRAPH?
I am looking forward to viewing the FISM tape...just been too busy
this week with basketball, dentist visits, and scout stuff. I saw
enough of Danalin on the Russian tape to want to see the rest of the
act.
Msg #35131 Dated 7:08:21 02-27-92 34880 <--> 35146
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Yes...I did work a show with Lupe. She is a delightful young lady
from Panama who lives in the Northern Virginia area. She was a
student of Scotty's for awhile and does some very nice magic. Her
lovely personality accents her presentations. She is good people.
Msg #35132 Dated 7:08:34 02-27-92 34891 <--> 35158
From: BILL WELLS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Gadzooks! You DO drag up some memories. My fondest Yogi Club
memories are from the old shop of Phil's (before the fire) in that
old room upstairs with the photo's of the old Demon's Club. Those
dudes sitting around the table with devil caps and horns added a
certain ambiance. I even remember you doing the call out a number,
call out a card effect that you did....and that my "woman of the
evening" (tricky wording there) was your assistant. I remember
Raymond backpalming an entire deck and doing the card in the walnut
in the egg as well. In fact, I even appeared on the bill a time or
two. Frank always did his stuff in the side room in Phil's shop
before the meetings. That was a REL magic shop and all the
characters to go with it.
Msg #35135 Dated 7:11:30 02-27-92 -> 35321
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: HELLO
Well, hi there! Welcome to the land of the keyboard! Do you live in
Vegas all the time? I knew two magicians who used to live in Vegas.
Steven Pellegrino and Mike Keating. Both worked for Copperfield. Did
you know them? Can't wait to meet you!
I would LOVE to see the sights of Vegas, other than the infamous strip.
Mike used to have a van that you couldn't roll the windows down at all.
I used to call it the test car for Ban Roll On. It didn't have seats
either, except for the driver, so I used to bounce around like a pea in
a drum. If your van is like Mike's could you warn me so I can bring my
daughters roller blade pads with me?
Msg #35142 Dated 8:26:30 02-27-92 35078 <--> 35145
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Ringo at the Castle
Msg #35143 Dated 8:27:43 02-27-92 35120 <--> 35176
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Have you seen the _VIDEO TOSTER_?
Msg #35145 Dated 9:01:20 02-27-92 35005 <--> 35154
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Who's picture in what Close Up gallery?
Msg #35146 Dated 9:01:23 02-27-92 35007 <--> 35164
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Duh, no files, no specs... right... more care... Well, my first
ever issue of DRIVE! Magazine shipped to the printer tonight. Hah.
And I am still alive. And I guess it is ok to have a job. I guess
I will be able to use the MAC when it comes next week or so... the
word is I will have a Superdrive (?) and it reads DOS stuff, whatever
that meeeeeens.... hah....
Msg #35147 Dated 9:01:31 02-27-92 35012 <--> 35167
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
I thought Wells posted it some time ago? Mmmmmm will look and see
if I got one... if so will do tonite after Star Trek... I hope the
Part II that I was engrossed in last nite is on tonite... argh...
Msg #35148 Dated 9:01:36 02-27-92 35022 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: EMPLOYMENT
I have already been around the world. Well, LAX/KUAII/TOKYO/ALASKA
PARIS/NICE/LONDON/LAX on one trip. Did three shows. Two in Tokyo
and one in Nice at the Sporting Club... Oh, one more... in London
at Ron Macmillan's Day of Magic. Tough trip. Was 12 years ago and
am still tired.
Msg #35152 Dated 9:02:03 02-27-92 35029 <--> 35168
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
I know someone that MIGHT be interested. A lady, so there. Not
sure if she is going at all right now... will know in two days.
Msg #35153 Dated 9:02:07 02-27-92 35033 <--> 35165
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
I used to do the Cut Thumb bit with real blood it is very very
strong... I had forgotten about that bit. Gee, seems like it was
ANOTHER lifetime ago... argh...
Msg #35154 Dated 9:02:12 02-27-92 35037 <--> 35155
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Not just for MAGIC! it is my entire phone bill. I don't wish to
break it down... but just recently signed on for Reach Out...
something, with ATT... and it seeeeems muuuuuch lower....
Msg #35155 Dated 9:02:17 02-27-92 35040 <--> 35162
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
I chickened out too... kept shooting photos for a living as the
amount of time I spent with the camera - compared to the magic -
paid about 30 times more!!! And had some very steady clients.
Still do.... and had "retired" to live on the ocean and write my
books, do magic, etc. until that piece of paper from the process
server got me... now am broke and had to take a mundane new day
job... starting ALL OVER in a new job at "beginner's" pay....
.
Sux
Msg #35156 Dated 9:02:27 02-27-92 35043 <--> 35163
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Was one of the great shows... fellow MAGIC!er, Kevin Curtain sent
me a copy....
Msg #35157 Dated 9:02:31 02-27-92 35046 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SCHEDULE
You left out the MAGIC! Computer session at 5 pm on Friday.
Msg #35158 Dated 9:02:34 02-27-92 35047 <--> 35180
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Frank was one of the greats. I didn't see him a lot, but enough to
realize thi guy really knew his stuff. I don't recall the actual
title (time?) of the Master Deck, but many thought it a put on,
but I understand he could really work for great lengths of time.
.
Here is a query for you and/or T A... Silvan faxed me mentioning
an author: Tomaso Garzoni. Books by him are circa 1601 and 1613.
Any ideas on what they contained, or what they are?
Msg #35159 Dated 9:02:44 02-27-92 35054 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MONKEYSHINES
You are out, dude... at least til the next inning!!!
Msg #35160 Dated 9:02:47 02-27-92 35055 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: CRICHTON
Who said, "If I write a book on how to fail, if it sells well,
was I a failure?"
Msg #35161 Dated 9:02:51 02-27-92 35058 <--> 35221
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: NO MAGI ONLINE?
If you are talking about the Neff Rope trick? I have a method I
once lectured on where the short piece of rope does not go up
the sleeve, but is rolled into a small ball by a mechanical "Silk
to Ball" device and the ball is just kept in the palm.
.
When I get into an effect I almost always devise about 3 or 4 ways
to do it... so it can be done under various circumstances.
Msg #35162 Dated 9:02:59 02-27-92 35063 <--> 35172
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
I will think about it... I just don't know nuttn about PCPursuit.
Duh.... I log onto magic for downloads on the average 3 times a
day and reply 3 times. Each call is usually UNDER 1-minute using
IMP!
Msg #35163 Dated 9:03:05 02-27-92 35065 <--> 35175
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
The Bali, in Amsterdam has the hottest Ristaffle (Rice Table) in
the woild... argh... we had a great time there the first time.
.
I was with the Editor of Car and Driver Magazine... a very astute
dude... we asked the waiter what the "special of the house was"
He said, "Ristaffle... it has fruit, rice, beef, chicken, bananas,
pork, more rice, monkey, nuts, mushrooms.... etc." David said,
"OK, you talked us into it... make it TWO Ristaffles, but HOLD THE
MONKEY!"
.
I still double up with laffter whenever I recall that scene.
Msg #35164 Dated 9:03:18 02-27-92 35072 <--> 35169
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Stop telling him it exists! OK? Otherwise he will beat the wheeee
out of you with his biggest toys.... arhg...
Msg #35165 Dated 9:03:22 02-27-92 35073 <--> 35171
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
I dunno... still have to clean cages. How a bout a doll of a
mage in a tux?
Msg #35166 Dated 9:03:26 02-27-92 35077 <--> 35197
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
I heard he wanted a real fire truck and was going to drive it
around OTHER KIDS' birthday parties to screw up THEIR videos.
Msg #35167 Dated 9:03:30 02-27-92 35098 <--> 35183
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
Will look for it Thursday nite (tonite)? When Leno does the entire
week, I forget what day it is... when he does Tuesday nights, I
have something to measure by.
Msg #35168 Dated 9:03:34 02-27-92 35100 <--> 35174
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
NO ONE CAN BE ALONE... IN VEGAS... argh...
Msg #35169 Dated 9:03:37 02-27-92 35101 <--> 35170
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
As soon as you put the word "magicians" in there it became clear...
almost ANY KID is better behaved than most "magicians" I know.
Msg #35170 Dated 9:03:41 02-27-92 35102 <--> 35173
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I have no choice... it is a company policy... what is going to kill
me is the tiny tiny screen... having a 19-incher here at World HQ.
Msg #35171 Dated 9:03:45 02-27-92 35104 <--> 35188
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
When I want to appear "Possessed" I fly in and out of the room a
couple of times.
Msg #35172 Dated 9:03:49 02-27-92 35105 <--> 35182
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Plagerism is plagerism is plagerism dude.
Msg #35173 Dated 9:03:53 02-27-92 35107 <--> 35184
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Yah, then he could go to the Vent's Castle in Hollywood. I used to
alway be at the Juggler's Castle myself.
.
Actually I posted a similar message to David a few weeks ago....
.
You Plagerist dude....
Msg #35174 Dated 9:04:00 02-27-92 35118 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: DESERT MAGIC
You been to quiet lately "other one"... good name for a Star Trek
character...
Msg #35175 Dted 9:04:04 02-27-92 35119 <--> 35219
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
I have the other one other one... gimme your mailing address
Msg #35176 Dated 9:04:07 02-27-92 35120 <--> 35189
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
What version of Publisher's Paintbrush? I have 1.6 and looking for
later one... there is a gooooood book on it... by Deke McClelland
publisher: SAMS 0-672-27324-1 (can mail with tape or bring to
dms... tho would rather not carry ANYTHING to dms as am on way to
a photo job and will be buried with heavy equipment.... duh
Msg #35177 Dated 9:04:14 02-27-92 35123 <--> 35178
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
IS FIVE PM FRIDAY FIVE PEE EMM.... 5PM FRI
Msg #35178 Dated 9:04:17 02-27-92 35128 <--> 35190
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
FIVE ON FRIDAY
Msg #35179 Dated 9:04:20 02-27-92 35129 <--> 35348
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ODDEST PARAGRAPH?
YOU DIDN'T SEE NUTTIN' ON THE RUSSIAN ER SOVIET ER UNIFIED TEAM
TAPE... NO RESEMBLANCE... he learned to walk after that tape...
Msg #35180 Dated 9:04:24 02-27-92 35132 <--> 35213
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Are there any more REAL BACK ROOMS ANY MORE? Or are they all
plastic and such?
Msg #35181 Dated 10:15:55 02-27-92 -> 35198
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: CASTLE SHOW
Well as I thought it would be. Last night at the castle was an "E"
ticket. Got there late, say 9:15 and went straight back stage to visit
with Ed and his crew. They said things had been going well with the
show and were thrilled that the new effect was working, though they
thought it needed reworking and would tackle that after the run this
week. I chatted with Terry of "LES AND TERRY" briefly and then made my
way to seatsawaiting myself and another of Ed's party. Sat next to
Geno Michalenni (sp) who does the afternoon drive on KLOS. He has a
great thing he does to promote live comedy and variety in L.A. called
the "FIVE O'CLOCK FUNNIES". It airs Monday thru Friday and besides
playing comedy bits, he promotes both comedy and other variety acts.
He was a great guy to talk with and after the show we had drinks and
chatted about "stuff". But back to the show. The room was packed and
the audience was quite "electric" Brian (offstage) introduvced LES and
TERRY and they came on with a great deal of energy. Very strong dove
act with lots of new bits and suprises not sen in most dove acts. VERY
NICE INDEED! They did nine minutes of dove stuff and as the act
progressed the birds got bigger, concluding with a full grown Macaw
(sp). A must see act and one I hope they bring back soon. Terry told
me that this was the first time they had played the Castle. I'm sure
it won't be the last. Then Ed came out and did 30. That's right 30
very quick and magic packed minutes. His material is very tested and
strong. No fat, very lean. I have seen the act many times and it
still remains fresh. After the show I had drinks, as mentioned above,
and then went to the basement and traded effects with a very nice
magicain from San Diego. We stayed there until one and then moved to
the upstairs bar where we visited and traded effects with Bob Kohler.
Ended up being the last guy at the Castle and they pushed me ot
locking the door behind me. Wow! What a great night of MAGIC!!!! I
could do the same thing every night. Maybe that's why I can't keep a
woman. Wished you could have been there. Maybe next time.
Msg #35182 Dated 15:22:04 02-27-92 35110 <--> 35200
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
PC-Pursuit is a public packet switching network (for those who know
what that is!). It is a network for modem only calls and it works at
night and on weekends (it exists in the daytime, but is used for
corporate data transfers and costs a bunch more). Anyway, $30 (I
think - maybe $35) gets you something like _30_ _hours_ of time per
month. You have to create a special script that dials a local access
code and that then switches you to the "outdial node" near MAGIC! and
then dials MAGIC! For more info, I think you can call Telenet
(PC-Pursuit's parent org.) at 1-800-TELENET.
Msg #35183 Dated 15:26:46 02-27-92 35167 <--> 35201
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
The solution is to let your machine tape Leno andthen watch the whole
week on Monday morning while you eat your Cheerios and boil your
teakettles.
Msg #35184 Dated 15:30:31 02-27-92 35101 <--> 35185
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Nathan was extremely pleased when I read him your message this morning.
He said, "Please tell Mr. Waters 'thank you.'"
Msg #35185 Dated 15:32:51 02-27-92 35107 <--> 35186
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BRTON (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Biro made that suggestion too. And it could work. Also, Nathan has
been invited to join one of the acts, thus his being there could
legitimately be as part of the show. But I don't want to do anything
contrary to Joe's wishes, much as I wish Nathan to attend.
Msg #35186 Dated 15:34:55 02-27-92 35164 <--> 35187
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Yeah, right, Pete. He is going to be at the Trop., he is going to see
a lot of his friends, you think he won't know what is going on?
Msg #35187 Dated 15:36:44 02-27-92 35169 <--> 35214
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
You might notice that T. A. didn't put "magicians" in quotes. Clearly,
therefore, he was talking about the genuine article. I regard his
message as extremely high praise and am very grateful to him for
posting it.
Msg #35188 Dated 15:39:08 02-27-92 35165 <--> 35202
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Why not an EGG inside a rubber dove? Very mystic and symbolic.
Msg #35189 Dated 15:41:55 02-27-92 35120 <--> 35322
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
The idea of a "sample MAGIC! session" is appealing, if it is "canned."
I've done enough live computer demos around th World to know that
nothing will go as planned. We once even wired the hotel specifically
for the demo (they didn't have direct dial phone lines in the meeting
rooms), and everything was perfect until we went "live" and got busy
signals! I feel comfortable with the overhead projector, although I
have thought of using one of the projection systems.
By the way, can you tell me more about the color scanner you have?
(Perhaps in private so we don't bore anyone). I like to dream about
getting one, and yours did a good job on the Vegas pic.
See you at DMS!
Msg #35190 Dated 15:46:19 02-27-92 35122 <--> 35191
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
Metal thumb tips are best for fire effects - like putting out
cigarettes. Aluminum is too good a heat transfer for that. So I doubt
that Biro's aluminum thumb tips would foil anyone.
Msg #35191 Dated 15:47:15 02-27-92 35123 <--> 35203
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
OK, thanks. Guess I'll just have to wait for the final, final schedule
or call Joe and ask.
Msg #35192 Dted 15:48:17 02-27-92 35124 <--> 35352
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MY NOTEBOOK
Yeah, I can see the problem with the multiplying overhead projectors.
Even worse than my three projector monte.
Msg #35197 Dated 16:03:00 02-27-92 5166 <--> 35204
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Yeah, that fire truck roaring by in the middle of his show did cause
some confusion. But I think he handled it very well - he waited it out
and stared the other children into keeping their seats. Why don't you
do a comparison test on the DMS contestants? Fire off a fire siren in
the middle of their act and see what happens. And they get o see the
shows - Sheesh!
Msg #35198 Dated 16:06:08 02-27-92 35181 <--> 35199
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: CASTLE SHOW
Thanks for the review, Mike. It sounds like it was a great evening.
Glad to hear that you liked Les & Terri - I think they do a very good
show. Wish I could have been there.
Msg #35199 Dated 18:05:01 02-27-92 35198 <--> 35206
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: CASTLE SHOW
Well next time, the drinks are on me. So me there, O.K.? How's
things at your house? Nathan better? And you? Gotta run. Have a
nice evening. Talk with you later.
Msg #35200 Dated 18:38:41 02-27-92 35142 <--> 35218
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
What other Ringo? There's more than one? ARgh....
Msg #35201 Dated 18:38:44 02-27-92 35183 <--> 35207
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
No Cheerios... Fibre, dude, fibre...
Msg #35202 Dated 18:38:47 02-27-92 35188 <--> 35208
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Why a dove? I saw at least 15 comedy tapes audition for the DMS
that did the rubber dove gag. Originally was Tommy Cooper's. Argh.
.
Can't people think of OTHER things to produce? Jelly fish,
Modems, Shoes, Ice Cubes?
Msg #35203 Dated 18:38:54 02-27-92 35190 <--> 35350
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
Curses "foiled" again? Here's a tip.... leave asparagus (tips) for
a waiter.
Msg #35204 Dated 18:38:58 02-27-92 35197 <--> 35209
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
You weren't there when the FIRE DOOR ALARM WENT OFF in the middle
of Bob Read's act... was a riot... after the shock (I tried to
shut it off) and Bob realized that about 3 minutes of his alloted
10 minutes were eaten up by the noise/confusion, and te yellow
warning light (1 minute to go before disqualification red light
comes on) HE TOOK OFF HIS COAT AND PUT IT OVER THE LIGHT.... almost
got a standing ovation for that!!!!
Msg #35206 Dated 19:06:00 02-27-92 35199 <-
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: CASTLE SHOW
Yes, thank you for asking, Nathan and I are both feeling better. He
went to school today, but he wants me to check his temperature tonite.
Msg #35207 Dated 19:07:31 02-27-92 35201 <--> 35272
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
OK, then watch the taped shows with whatever it is you do eat in the
morning.
Msg #35208 Dated 19:08:09 02-27-92 35202 <--> 35217
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
I thought that Kevin's idea of the hampster inside the dove was very
clever and new. Seems to me that you can use a rubber dove if you
don't do the standard rubber dove gag with it. The problem is that all
the magic places are pushing comedy now - you go to DMS you get comedy,
you go to the Magic Castle, you get comedy. Feh.
Msg #35209 Dated 19:12:25 02-27-92 35204 <--> 35247
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
So you think that Nathan should have stolen Bob Read's bit and put his
coat over his production box? That's to "feh's," Biro.
Msg #35213 Dated 19:47:55 02-27-92 35047 <--> 35220
From: CY KELLER
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Max - 80 hours? What he did was substantial. I saw him do a poker
deal and then still do the mster deck. If you add all of the
effects that can be done and still do the master deck, then maybe
you can do a lot of hours. If there is another way I'd like to
hear it.
.
When Frank would return from Boston and Brockton he would always
mention Phil. He spent a lot of time with Ray Goulet, Herb Zarrow
and Ed Vohrees. I would like to hear some of them on how long the
aster deck was.
.
I don't think Frank could always back up his statements. He once
told me that he had a patent for a combination chess and checker
board!!!!
.
On another subject. Where can one find your routine for the
chain, Prick the Garter, belt trick whatever? Hank Lee mentions
that you have a great routine, but doesn't say if it your
routine.
Msg #35214 Dated 19:48:18 02-27-92 35059 <--> 35216
From: CY KELLER
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Nathan is a sterling character. However, all of the people with
brats would like them to be accepted too. Huh!!
Msg #35215 Dated 19:48:24 02-27-92 35064 <--> 35254
From: CY KELLER
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: DISKETTES
I added a format file to my main drive from a different version
of DOS. It wouldn't work. Maybe that is the problem. Today at
work I tried to read a windows disk with dos. No go. Maybe this
is the problem.
Msg #35216 Dated 19:48:32 02-27-92 35071 <--> 35245
From: CY KELLER
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Am waiting with baited breath ( is there another kind?). Have so
many questions that the documentation is sure to answer.
Msg #35217 Dated 19:48:39 02-27-92 35086 <--> 35246
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
The cut thumb must go back to the 17th century. Any way it's
before our time.
Msg #35218 Dated 19:48:45 02-27-92 35088 <--> 35226
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Hard times, Pete. I raised five or six children, so had an
incentive to play it safe. Divorce also a problem. Those raised
during the depression wanted some security. People think they
have it now. HA!
Msg #35219 Dated 19:48:53 02-27-92 35089 <--> 35222
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGE
The cocatoo trick is one of the greatest I've ever seen. Is this
the same person you have for the convention? He must have a card
sword rigged up. I don't want to think where the card is stored.
Maybe he throws the bird and then scales the card to the mouth
ala Ricky Jay.
Msg #35220 Dated 19:49:02 02-27-92 35091 <--> 35224
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Frank's best creation was himself. Frank could work for
great lenghts of time just talking. This is all said with great
admiration. He sould be in Guiness for the master deck. The
longest card trick ever performed. The cigar smoke might have put
the judges away, however.
Msg #35221 Dated 19:49:12 02-27-92 35094 <--> 35277
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: NO MAGI ONLINE?
Pete - you're to clever by half. I've never seen anyone come up
with such novel methods or effects. My admiration!!!!
Msg #35222 Dated 19:49:18 02-27-92 35096 <--> 35223
From: CY KELLER
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGE
In Aruba there is a place that serves this food. Your friend's
remark is priceless.
Msg #35223 Dated 19:49:24 02-27-92 35119 <--> 35251
From: CY KELLER
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Alas, I'm ot going to be at DMS. Maybe we con work something
else out.
Msg #35224 Dated 19:49:30 02-27-92 35132 <--> 35239
From: CY KELLER
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Yeah those were great days at Yogi. Raymond's walnut trick was a
view of an old master doing a classic. it couldn't have been a
card, perhaps a bill. I'm sure you appeared on one of the bills.
The great thing about the Yogi was that there were no meetings or
politics. I shouldn't be saying this to a past president of IBM.
.
Yeah - a lot of people came just to see Frank. If wee keep on
talking like this, thosae Castle people will wonder what they
missed. The people who did not hang out in New York in the 40's
and 50's missed lot also.
Msg #35226 Dated 20:03:29 02-27-92 35200 <--> 35250
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
only one, Harry Ringel. (Ringo)
Msg #35227 Dated 20:04:02 02-27-92 -> 35234
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: ALL
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
Ok, just finnished a Blue and gold dinner (burp) Why is it when a
magician walks into a set up like this, he is confronted with "We had
a magician last year, I know all his tricks!" I am absolutly befuddled!
when I started MY act I explain everybody is diffrent (some more than
others) Then the show starts and apparently they did not know a thing!
My line up (as best as I could remember) open with dye tube routiene to
get them intrested. then to a cut rope (i beleive I am using the eric
lewis routien (it is the best) then to Clatterbox +BREAK+ walking thru
ropes (tarbell) and finally the abbots wrist chopper with a variation
o the patter Don Lawton (my hero) used.., by the end of the show the
kids were all a wonder (not stevie or tommy) as to "how" it all
happened! Needless to say that they were impressed and they want me to
teach their dens some simple tricks. I was thinking about Fire
eating!?!?!?
Msg #35234 Dated 20:40:53 02-27-92 35227 <--> 35256
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
You're kidding, I hope! I teach drug and alcholol abusive teens and
the effects I found that worked the best were those they could carry
with them and used the simplest props. Try Crazy Man's Handcuffs,
Linking Paper Clips, Penetrating Matches and Professors Nightmare.
Remember "KISS" (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) and always ALWAYS reward
every effort, success or failure. Don't let one know-it-all kid take
the lead and overwhelm the smaller or slower kids. Every kid needs a
turn at glory. At the end of your training session, have a video handy
to show them. This has worked for me for 5 years now.
Msg #35236 Dated 21:02:57 02-27-92 -> 35265
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: ALL
Re: ROOM
Okay, gang, the room at the Trop has been cancelled due to the
generosity of one of our wonderful members. I can't wait to meet all
of you at DMS and now I won't be all by my little lonesome self. I
will be just fine. See you there. OH! I get to come for two days,
now. I shmoozed my boss into believing it is a "business meeting" for
MTN. So get your SLC ticket and make me look good! (Hee Hee Hee!)
Msg #35237 Dated 21:06:17 02-27-92 -> 35260
From: STACEY MCKENZIE
To: ALL
Re: EMERGENCY!!!
I know this will sound ridiculous, but I am worried. My two year old
daughter, Rebecca, ate a sponge ball. I am SERIOUS! She was playing
and got into my older daughter's magic kit and GULP! Down it went. I
called poison control immediately and they said they never heard of a
sponge ball (there was also a lot of giggles in the background - nice
to know my child could be slowly poisoned and all they can do is laugh)
and I described it to them (try describing a sponge ball). It is one
of the red ones and I need to know if the coloring has any toxins in
it. All they said was to watch her closely and take her to the ER
should she start acting strangely. Please don't laugh, I really AM
worried about my little girl. Is the red dye they use poisonous to
children? Answer back ASAP!
Msg #35239 Dated 21:40:59 02-27-92 35091 <--> 35257
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Pete,
Garzoni, Thomaso.
Il theatro de' vari, e diversi cervelli mondani,nuouamente
formato, & posto in luce. ... Venetia, Somasco,
Description: 118 numb.L. 21cm.
Garzoni, Tomaso, 1549?-1589.
Emporii emporiorum, sive piazza universal De statibus hominum,
eorumdem ingeniis, scientiis & artibustam liberalibus quam
illiberalibus & mechanicis deque omnium rerum usu, abusu,
erroribus correctionibus atque eorum principiis mediis & finibus
singulorumque inventoribus. Opera omnia universalem doctrinam
politicam aliosque discursus historice philologicos omplectentia.
In tres libros distributa. Interprete Nicolao Bello ...
Francofurti, impensis Ioannis Theobaldi Schonwetteri, 1623-24.
Description: 3 v. in 1. 19 cm. (4to)
Subjects:Occupations.
Other entries: Lundorp, Michael Caspar, ca.1580-1629.
Lapiazae universalis.
Garzoni, Tomaso, 1549?-1589.
L' hopidale de' pazzi incurabili. Milano, Ferro [1967]
Description: 121 p.
Series:Documenta historica medicinae v. 2.
Notes: Added title page is facsim. of 1601 edition.
Subjects:Hospitals, Psychiatric -- history.
L'hospidale de' pazzi incurabili, nuovamente ristampato, & posto
Msg #35241 Dated 21:49:28 02-27-92 -> 35267
From: MARVIN STERN
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: 33
Happy birthday. Oh to be young again.
I really liked that move you showed me today earlier. Hope I can
remember it.
Msg #35242 Dated 21:51:06 02-27-92 -> 35268
From: MARVIN STERN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: THURS
Did you buy or bid on anything? Were there any books?
If you should happen to go to lunch in Hollywood Fri, pls don't forget
what it was that you were going to bring to me.
Msg #35245 Dated 22:15:34 02-27-92 35072 <--> 35248
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
David,
I know exactly what you mean. I feel for Nathan. Maybe you can
arrange with whomever is doing the lecture to have you near the
back of the room. Tell them that you will leave if there is even
a sign of misbehaving.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35246 Dated 22:15:43 02-27-92 35073 <--> 35249
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
David,
Thanks. I've been workin on a bunch of new stuff. At some
point, if there are no objections, I'd like to describe the
various routines, and have the MAGIC! crowd critique them.
How about it?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35247 Dated 22:15:52 02-27-92 35077 <--> 35269
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Does he prefer high explosives, or just regular old black powder?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35248 Dated 22:15:59 02-27-92 35079 <--> 35258
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Pete,
I don't suppose you have Quick Basic for the Macintosh at work do
you?
Thanks
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35249 Dated 22:16:07 02-27-92 35086 <--> 35252
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Pete,
I'm not familiar with a cut thumb with real blood illusion. I'm
all too familiar with the real thing.
Care to elaborate?
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35250 Dated 22:16:15 02-27-92 35095 <--> 35270
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Pete,
My average call is 1 to 2 minutes. But doing that a couple times
a day, ie 60-90 times a month can add up.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35251 Dated 22:16:23 02-27-92 35096 <--> 35276
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Pete,
I don't know ANYTHING about foreign food, but "hold the monkey"
makes me giggle just sitting here.
I may incorporate that phrase into everyday life.
People thought I was strange before.... (and they was right!)
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35252 Dated 22:16:32 02-27-92 35103 <--> 35262
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
T. A.,
When I saw your message whiz by at 2400 baud, I thought you were
about to tell me about someone who does a similar act. I'm glad
you were only informing those of us who can't stand to scuba dive
without our doves that there is a cheap alternative to custom wet
suits.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35254 Dated 22:16:49 02-27-92 35215 <--> 35809
From: KEVIN E CURTIN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: DISKETTES
Cy,
I certainly hope that is the problem. If you need a new
format.com file, let me know, and let me know what version. I
have them all.
Enjoy!
Kevin
Msg #35256 Dated 22:11:11 02-27-92 35234 <--> 35282
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
No Stacey, I am not kidding! The effects mentioned were the ones I
performed. And I did KISS the audience. One very famous magician of
days goneby used to say befor every performance, "I LOVE MY AUDIENCE"
and regardless how simple the method, the outcome is the part they will
remember.
Know-it-all kidsreally dont! they are just as amazed with the
Professors Nightmare NOT knowing how it is done rather ten the kid
finding out on his/her accord. linking clips are fun as a puzzle, but
why would you wanna teach Crazy Man's HC to a group of pre-teens? the
concept of the illusion is what the thinking magician has worked on to
refine and develop. When you state that every kid needs a turn at
glory, you are right. there are many elementary books avaible to teach
principle with method rather learning method alone. I have been doing
family entertainement since I was 12. It all started with a blue and
gold dinner when the actual "hired" magician called to cancel. Ever
since then, I have been doing family style shows. I may not be a big
requested name in magic, but this is my _FULL TIME_ occupation. (100%
of income) I'm never at the conventions because they hold them at very
popular weekends for partys and other events.........I seem to think
that when you go to a convention, look at all the out of work
magicians! I also do the clown gig too! Keeps me busy!
Msg #35257 Dated 22:29:47 02-27-92 35224 <--> 35279
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
I hung out, periodically, in New York in the late 40's and the early
50's, but I was near Nathan's age and nobody showed me nuttin'.
Msg #35258 Dated 22:32:04 02-27-92 35216 <--> 35259
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Remember, as "Frog," I'm an expert in baited breath -- it draws flies.
We produced documentation and had it at IBM-Baltimore. Then we decided
to make some changes to the system. Those resulted in changes to
IMP!/RDMAGIC, so Jerry went into test mode. Then Jerry was ready, but
I wasn't . . . Sorry for the delay - hopefully will have it worked
out by DMS.
Msg #35259 Dated 22:34:23 02-27-92 35245 <--> 35271
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Actually, he is more interested in the shows than in the lectures,
since he has trouble writing up his notes. Maybe I can make the "back
of the room" suggestion to Joe.
Thanks.
Msg #35260 Dated 22:29:37 02-27-92 35237 <--> 35266
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: EMERGENCY!!!
Dear Stacey,
I regret to tell you that printed on every bag of balloons I use is a
statement: SAFTEY WARNING:Young children could choke or be suffocated
by an uninflated balloon or piece of a broken balloon. Adults should
inflate balloons and SUPERVISE their use wwith children under six (6)
years." also, why would a child have the oppertunity to get hold of
your sponge ball and what size is it? for toxins...Albert Goshman is
not with us anymore to ask. Please, for your own sake, keep all
parafinila out of the reach of children. Why????? Remember the kid who
shot himself with grandpas gun on new years day!
Msg #35262 Dated 22:37:01 02-27-92 35246 <--> 35273
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Sure! I think that describing the routines here and having them
critiqued would be a good idea all around. And this crowd seems to
have a pretty good respect for intellectual property.
Msg #35265 Dated 22:53:43 02-27-92 35236 <--> 35283
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: ROOM
I'm trying to figure how many tickets I'll need for SLC. Right now, it
looks like I may be going alone. Will let you know soon.
Msg #35266 Dated 22:55:13 02-27-92 35237 <--> 35284
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: EMERGENCY!!!
If it was a Goshman sponge ball, I think you can still call Magic by
Gosh and ask them about the dye - I think his son is running the
business. Last number I had was (818) 365-2128.
If it is a clone, I don't know how you could figure it out, except to
get one to your pediatrician and see if he could have it tested.
Msg #35267 Dated 23:01:32 02-27-92 35241 <--> 35286
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: 33
Gee -- Marvin says it is your Birthday. He's a pretty reputable guy,
so I'll give it a shot - HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MIKE, and many happy reruns!
Msg #35268 Dated 23:02:26 02-27-92 35242 <--> 35292
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: THURS
No, we didn't bid. Stuff was weak. One or two OK lots, but we decided
to let 'em pass. I did have a deal with another guy, who had fronted
the deposit money, that if he got 'em he'd tell us, but I haven't heard
from him.
Don't think I will make it this Friday. Wife comes home in the
afternoon and something tells me I'd better take the day off and do the
dishes.
Msg #35269 Dated 23:06:07 02-27-92 35247 <--> 35514
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
He really hasn't confided his plans to me yet (and, for all I know, he
may not even do so!). I do know that he has been mumbling something
about "Guns, Lots of guns."
This week, he is busy with other things. In addition to being home
sick yesterday, the school is running a belated February schedule.
Today he came home and said he'd worn a George Washington mask - "You
know, our first President."
Msg #35270 Dated 23:27:22 02-27-92 35105 <--> 35275
From: T A WATERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Yes to both questions -- I have invented stuff only to find out I had
been anticipated, sometimes in considerable detail, by anything from a
few months to several decades. There are also those people who plead
ignorance when confronted with such evidence -- here in situations
where they are marketing something and continue to market it on the
grounds that they came up with it independently. Inventing, however,
is not enough; you have to invent FIRST. Nothing wrong with missing a
credit; a LOT wrong with ignoring it.
Msg #35271 Dated 23:31:03 02-27-92 35184 <--> 35288
From: T A WATERS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
You're welcome, Nathan.
Msg #35272 Dated 23:46:29 02-27-92 35207 <--> 35297
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
My VCR will not tape Star Trek. I dunno what's wrong with it...
got to check out when I get some time... got too much work right
now. Just had another job offer to publish some event programs.
Argh.... where were the easy jobs when I was looking for them.
Msg #35273 Dated 23:46:35 02-27-92 35208 <--> 35274
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
It don't matter if it is comedy, drama, sad stuff, or what... all
we ask is to keep the copyists out. I would rather watch 12 great
acts than 11 great acts and one bad one.
.
Unnerstand?
Msg #35274 Dated 23:46:41 02-27-92 35217 <--> 35289
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Before your time maybe. I am working on my third lifetime.
Msg #35275 Dated 23:46:44 02-27-92 35218 <--> 35332
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Yeah, my dad was in the WPA, we ate beans for a week at a time.
NO tv (hadn't been invented yet) I meant NO RADIO... my folks
sat around drawing pictures and telling jokes. (Ex vodvillians).
Msg #35276 Dated 23:46:49 02-27-92 35219 <--> 35278
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: MESSAGE
NO gaff, am sure. My guess is the bird has the card under a wing
or something... and it is trained to bring it into view.
Msg #35277 Dated 23:46:52 02-27-92 35221 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: NO MAGI ONLINE?
Wait til book two comes out. Book one is one trick (over 300 pages
already and more to go)
Msg #35278 Dated 23:46:56 02-27-92 35222 <--> 35323
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: MESSAGE
He nailed me beautifully. The waiter didn't know what to think!
Food was excellent... but Monkey??? I dunno, I think he was smart
saying "hold....
Msg #35279 Dated 23:47:01 02-27-92 35224 <--> 35285
From: PETE BIRO
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
I wish I had. I did get in on the last fringes, working for Willy
Schneider Lecture group, etc. I was (when in town) one of the
Back Room boys at Flosso's... Al was a national treasure. I hve
a few things he gave me. I used to take him to dinner and just
listen to stories. Sure wish I had taped him... but... then it
wouldn't have been so private, so good... I have one great story
involving a show we did together that will never be forgotten.
Msg #35282 Dated 23:47:19 02-27-92 35234 <--> 35319
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
I would teach Zombie, so tht it becomes even more overdone and
professionals will have to crush theirs, thus become eligible to
work shows I book!
Msg #35283 Dated 23:47:24 02-27-92 35236 <--> 35461
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: ROOM
So, gonna live in a van, eh?
Msg #35284 Dated 23:47:27 02-27-92 35237 <--> 35291
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: EMERGENCY!!!
Call Goshman's kid (Albert left the biz to his son when he died)
and I am sure he can tell you what was used. I will look for a
phone nr. when I log back in in a few minutes.
Msg #35285 Dated 23:47:32 02-27-92 35239 <--> 35290
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
No kidding? Howdahell did you find that? What do it mean? Huh?
Msg #35286 Dated 23:47:35 02-27-92 35241 <--> 35304
From: PETE BIRO
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: 33
HO... is it really Mike's Birthday? Gee... if so.... sorry Mike,
they just keep comin' I have had about 40 too many ... haha...
Msg #35288 Dated 23:47:42 02-27-92 35248 <--> 35295
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I don't know anything about Basic, quick or slo... on't even
know how to use a mac... jsut have one coming. ARgh...
Msg #35289 Dated 23:47:46 02-27-92 35249 <--> 35294
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Well. If you take a needle (FOR GOSH SAKES DON'T TELL NO KIDS
ABOUT THIS AND DON'T MESS WITH IT IF YOU AREN'T COOL) and pierce
the skin at the corner of a fold (wrinkle) in your thumb knuckle
area. So it bleeds a little. OK.
.
Now, get a sucker to watch and talk about PSYCHIC SURGERY OR
WHATEVER (Burton will advise here) bring out a seemingly sharp
pocket knife, or whatever. Now you start to saw back and forth
across the knuckle, a little blood comes out the pinhole and runs
across the wrinkle. Looks like you are cutting right across your
thumb! Realistic as all get out... I think I wrapped a hanky
around the upper part of the thumb and used pressure and release
of to work it... try various ideas out... USE ALCOHOL SWABS TO
KEEP CLEAN... Geekman might know some handlings too.
Msg #35290 Dated 23:48:02 02-27-92 35257 <--> 35293
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Nathan's Coney Island Hot Dogs? Nathan Detroit? I had a cat named
Nathan.
Msg #35291 Dated 23:48:06 02-27-92 35266 <--> 35356
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: EMERGENCY!!!
I see David has the Goshman Phone nr... so I don't need to look.
Good luck, hope his son knows the answer. Regardless, tomorrow
you need to call a Dr.
Msg #35292 Dated 23:48:11 02-27-92 35268 <--> 35301
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: THURS
Stacks of stuff in the home (when spouse away, or too busy) are
best handled with a high-pressure hose.
Msg #35293 Dated 23:48:15 02-27-92 35239 <--> 35299
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
OK how do we find out what the book is about? Is there a linking
ring reference in it? That's what someone in Italy has told me.
Inquiring mind needs to know... argh...
Msg #35294 Dated 23:48:20 02-27-92 35246 <--> 35298
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Frankly the tricks, props, etc. routines mean little, compared to
the LIKABILITY of the performer and the PRESENTATION... It would
be tuff (for me) to do any kind of critique from a written discrip-
tion. 90-percent of the time, when I view an audition tape, I
know in the first 30-90 seconds if I want the act. Look, attitude,
style (likability) are the key factors. Only once in awhile do
you get fooled and the act gets better or worse by leaps and
bounds and CHANGES my opinion.
.
Funny, same goes for people in the acting biz. I see a series and
right away I seem to be able to tell who will stick in, become
popular and successful and who will fade soooooooon... just a
knack of some kind I happen to have.
Msg #35295 Dated 23:48:34 02-27-92 35248 <--> 35296
From: PETE BIRO
To: KEVIN E CURTIN (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Suppose I do find QUICK BASIC. What is it, how do I get it to you
if it is legal to do so or what?
Msg #35296 Dated 0:05:20 02-28-92 35271 <--> 35452
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I'll relay that to him. He goes to sleep a little earlier than I do.
Msg #35297 Dated 0:08:21 02-28-92 35272 <--> 35330
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
Wait a minute, Pete. Are you saying your VCR won't tape anything? Or
that it just won't tape Star Trek?
I know what you mean about the easy jobs. Right now, I can't find
much, hard or easy. Got one hard one perkin' out there, but not really
sure I want to do it - it is one of those that they try to sell to you
on the basis that it is a "challenge."
Msg #35298 Dated 0:11:18 02-28-92 35273 <--> 35513
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ORIGINALITY
Yeah, 12 great acts instead of 11 great acts and one bad one. Reminds
me of what my Grandmother used to say, "It is better to be healthy for
a year than sick for a week."
Msg #35299 Dated 0:14:26 02-28-92 35290 <--> 35300
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Those were all good Nathan's (Nathan's Coney Island, Nathan Detroit)
except for the cat; I don't care much for cats. But I was refering to
Nathan, the 3-1/2 year old.
Msg #35300 Dated 0:14:06 02-28-92 35213 <--> 35334
From: MAX MAVEN
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Given the nature of Frank Thompson's Master Deck I would not be quick
to dismiss his eighty-hour claim.
Regarding your question, back in the 1970s I developed an elaborate
routine with the Endless Chain (not Pricking the Garter; there's a
difference, as I'm sure you know). It ran the better part of ten
minutes, with a hell of a lot of applause cues. I used it as a closer
during my very first run in the Close-Up Room at the Magic Castle.
Many of the individual elements of the routine were from published
sources (Rink, Blake, Lowe, etc.) along with technical ideas of my own
devising, but what made it all work was the structure.
Over the years I've had requests to publish the routine; perhaps some
day I shall, but at the moment there seems to be little reason to do
so.
Msg #35301 Dated 0:16:57 02-28-92 35292 <--> 35335
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: THURS
RE: Cleaning the stuff in the house with high-pressure hose.
We got short hose for casual wear, long hose for dress wear, some
normal panty hose and some leftover maternity panty hose, but we got no
high-pressure hose.
Msg #35303 Dated 0:20:19 02-28-92 -> 35326
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: SONG LYRICS
Nathan is looking for the lyrics to "On Top Of Spaghetti." The opening
goes something like:
On top of spaghetti,
All covered with cheese,
I lost my poor meatball,
When somebody sneezed.
Does anyone have the complete version? Thanks.
Msg #35304 Dated 0:24:02 02-28-92 35241 <--> 35305
From: MIKE KING
To: MARVIN STERN (X)
Re: 33
If you forget, I'll show you it again. How did you know it was my
birthday? Well it's not my birthday 'til Sunday.
Msg #35305 Dated 0:25:37 02-28-92 35267 <--> 35315
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: 33
I like Marvin, but he's wrong. Not till Sunday. But thanks anyway.
Trying to sneak by this one without too many people knowing, so please
keep it under your hat. Guess that's stupid since we're talking about
it on BBS. So thanks. Nice to have birthday wishes from my friends.
If I get a cake on Sunday, I'll save you a piece. But don't think it
likely, I'll have a very big day.
Msg #35315 Dated 0:56:57 02-28-92 35305 <--> 35337
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: 33
OK, if you do end up getting a cake on Sunday, and if you are in a
hurry, just fax me a slice.
Msg #35319 Dated 1:17:48 02-28-92 35227 <--> 35368
From: ANTHONY BLAKE
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
Scotty...
Teach them the cut and restored forearm (using nicked axes) or the burn
and restored Scout Masters (or in this case Den Mothers) tent, but I
think the best one we always performed was the amazing escape from the
sleeping bag tied to a tree limb and elevated at least 20 feet of the
ground, with a huge pile of horse, cow, bull or whatever else manure
underneath...Houdini would have been stumped.
Tony (aka Spearo of the Order of the Arrow)
Msg #35321 Dated 1:36:57 02-28-92 35135 <-
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: HELLO
Hi Stacey,
I've lived in Vegas now for a little more than five years with my
wife Kay, and our eight year old son Benjamin. I'd find it
difficult living anywhere else. Never again will I shovel snow,
or endure hot muggy Nebraska summers if I have my way about it.
Yes, I know both Steve and Mike.
Steve was one of the first magicians I met when I moved here. He
was working at the time at the Magic Mansion at Circus Circus. He
introduced me to the magic of Paul Harris' "Immaculate
Connection".
I met Mike shortlyafter David's "Death Saw" left him with a
severely damaged right hand. I even helped him shoot some Video
footage of a show he was in at Vegas World where I also got see
another good friend of mine as his assistant. She used to be the
lead dancer for Nevada Dance Theater until she retired last year.
She loves magic as well and jumped at the chance to participate
in a show with Michael. She got "Impaled" twice a night by Mike.
I haven't talked to him since he left for Chicago last year.
Luckily, (I guess) Mike's van burned up, if I remember correctly.
I recall shuttling him around town a few times when he couldn't
borrow someone elses car. He has a lot of friends here in Vegas.
Don't worry about my van, it's a Dodge Caravan and rides quite
nicely, and it does have seats. I just hope I can have the car
that day, although I hear you're not averse to wearing a helmet.
I may have to bring my Honda Silver Wing to DMS.
Looking forward to meeting you at DMS,
David (the other one)
Msg #35322 Dated 1:37:25 02-28-92 35143 <--> 35324
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Yes! I've seen both an Amiga software version and a stand alone
unit that utilizes up to three monitors. One for watching the
input, one for edited output, and the third is an editor screen.
I have a video by Todd Rungren made entirely with the Video
Toaster. I also viewed a demo made by our friends Penn and Teller
showing some of the more bizarre effects that can be created. I
just wish I can somehow justify buying one at work so I can play
with it. The last Summagraphics show had a special deal for the
standalone box for $1400. I was strongly tempted to go ahead and
buy it just for myself.
My wife had other ideas.
Oh well,
David (the other one)
Msg #35323 Dated 1:37:40 02-28-92 35175 <--> 35339
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Re: Moschen video
My mailing address is:
David VanVranken
5057 Myrtlewood Ave.
Las Vegas, NV 89122
If you want to send MM's show, I'll be more than happy to mail it
back with shipping bux, or should I just hand it back at DMS?
David (the other one)
Msg #35324 Dated 1:37:49 02-28-92 35176 <--> 35325
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
I have version 2.0 It has some WONDERFUL features like shade,
tint, wash, and the capability of digesting nearly unlimited
image sizes in the highest resolution available, only one tiny
problem though, IT'S ONLY FOR WINDOWS.
David (the other one)
Msg #35326 Dated 1:59:35 02-28-92 35303 <--> 35336
From: DAVID VANVRANKEN
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
Verse two:
"It rolled off the table,
and onto the floor,
And then my poor meat ball,
rolled out the frnt door..."
How's that?
I'm pretty sure there's more. Just ask the next Cub Scout you
see, they all seem to know it.
David (the other one)
Msg #35330 Dated 6:32:09 02-28-92 35098 <--> 35333
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
I, unfortunately, do not have the '92 DMS program of events. I
worked it out on horseback while riding with Joe in northern New
Mexico last August without making notes. Joe made the notes later. I
didn't make a copy. I believe Steve captured most of it, with the
exception of the Thursday events which will include a meeting of all
contestants, the informal close up bull session, the welcome party
(arabian nights theme) and the first comedy challenge show at 8:30 pm
I think you also need to add the MAGIC! session at 5 pm on Friday.
I do have notes on the tentative program for the 93 DMS but those are
still classified.
Msg #35332 Dated 7:51:09 02-28-92 35270 <--> 35456
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Trouble is with many contemporary cats... they haven't read any
books. Oh sure they have read the things printed in the last four
or five years...
.
But most of the good stuff is over 50 years old.
Msg #35333 Dated 7:51:16 02-28-92 35297 <--> 35341
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
My newest vcr seems to be unable (or isn't set right?) to tape
about half the channels. I was told there is some kinda reset
sumpin' I is gots to figger out... argh... technoid crap... Where
is Mr. Data when you need him?
Msg #35334 Dated 7:51:21 02-28-92 35300 <--> 35347
From: PETE BIRO
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Too bad it isn't LINKING chains. The $4,000 I pay each contributor
could be incentive.
Msg #35335 Dated 7:51:25 02-28-92 35301 <--> 35366
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: THURS
Stress will make em all High-Pressure! Hope Stacey's sponge ball
story is not serious this mornin'
Msg #35336 Dated 7:51:29 02-28-92 35303 <--> 35346
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
I hope not.
Msg #35337 Dated 7:51:32 02-28-92 35304 <--> 35342
From: PETE BIRO
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: 33
Then don't read any messages 'til Sunday, dude...
Msg #35339 Dated 7:51:43 02-28-92 35323 <--> 35358
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Mail both ways... going to Seattle in a panic rush from DMS...Sat
morning and less luggage, by ounces, is better for me... tanks.
Mailin' it Sat.
Msg #35340 Dated 7:51:48 02-28-92 35324 <--> 35344
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID VANVRAKEN (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
NUTZ windows... argh... never did 'em, never will... I am going
to be learning Photoshop on the MAC II, i GUESS....
Msg #35342 Dated 7:58:16 02-28-92 35315 <--> 35343
From: MIKE KING
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: 33
I'll be me than happy to Fax it your way. Do you think you might be at
the Castle for lunch today? I'm bringing Francis Martineaux. He is
the man who illustrated the Rice Silk Ency. And was the produce of Mark
Wilson's Land of Alakazam. A very nice guy. Who also hired John
Gaughn right out of high school to help build illusions.
Msg #35343 Dated 8:01:17 02-28-92 35337 <--> 35367
From: MIKE KING
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: 33
Don't read any messages, huih? Does that include this one?
Msg #35345 Dated 9:23:14 02-28-92 35340 <--> 35370
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Pete - I too said "Nuts to Windows." Then I tried it. It is GOOD
STUFF.
Msg #35346 Dated 9:24:24 02-28-92 35326 <--> 35374
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
Thanks - I think you have the second verse pretty accurately. Not too
sure about "rolled out the front door." I remember something like
that, but not with "front" in it. And yes, there is a third verse -
something about "and into a bush."
Msg #35347 Dated 9:25:44 02-28-92 35158 <--> 35349
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Regarding Frank Thompson -
I'm glad that you at least saw Frank, as he is unknown to a great
many in magic. Frank used to show up unannounced at my door in the
early evening. He was extremely well versed in not only most areas
of magic, but many other subjects as well. If he wasn't well read
on some subject, he usually knew enough to con you in thinking that
he was. Frank was one of the great characters of magic...for that
matter he would have been a character in almost any field. At any
rate, he would start doing magic...complete with cigar and a unique
presentation style that had just enough con in it that you could
never be quite sure the first time he showed you a routine. Many of
his routine incorporated an element of con anyhow. His "patter" (I
hesitte to call it that) was often punctuated with a "hey" or a
sort of "ey" with a Boston accent. The expression was all his, but
it served to not only misdirect, but to also draw you in as he often
uttered it when he was supposedly showing you the "work" on something
while, in fact, he was pulling you headfirst down the garden path.
I remember one evening in particularly, when the hours passed, the
apartment filled with cigar smoke, and the early light of dawn began
to show through the window and still Frank went on. It was a night
of 42 or 80 hours (you name it) of the Master Deck, all the Okito
box work, the O'Henry Aces, and so forth. The amazing things is that
most of it was great material. It was exceedingly difficult to
reconstruct after a session with Frank, particularly if you only saw
something for the first time. I am not even sure Frank could re-
construct some of the stuff. He used to scribble notes on the backs
of envelopes or whatever paper was available. It is a shame that so
little of his material even got into print. He is one of my great
memories in magic, and I miss him.
Msg #35348 Dated 9:26:53 02-28-92 35179 <--> 35384
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ODDEST PARAGRAPH?
I guess I most have seen his rehearsal walk on the Unified whatever
tape....still he looked pretty damn good to me. This weekend I will
get to the tape Jade sent.
Msg #35349 Dated 9:27:03 02-28-92 35180 <--> 35354
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
The high cost of rent has pretty much negated the existance of the
back room in most shops. Or at least, a back room for the "boys" to
gather in (that is not a sexist statement...there were never any
"girls" in the back rooms I was in) as the space is used for stock
or mailing room type stuff. Al used to have a back room when he was
on Pennsyvania Avenue many years ago. Phil Thomas had a "side" room
that kinda served as a back room. He also had upstairs rooms. Of
course, there was Flosso's back room which was the most amazing of
them all...piles and piles of magical treasures. It was the only
place I went whenever I was lucky enough to be in New York.
Msg #35350 Dated 9:27:28 02-28-92 35190 <--> 35351
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
I was gonna say "Curses, foiled again", but I won't. BTW - is the
Great Bill Switch Contest still on for the upcoming DMS? I haven't
heard mention of each for awhile. If it is still gonna happen, then
we should start giving it some advance press here!
Msg #35351 Dated 9:27:41 02-28-92 35191 <--> 35369
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
It would seem that it is now finalized at 5pm on Friday.
Msg #35352 Dated 9:27:46 02-28-92 35192 <--> 35372
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MY NOTEBOOK
I can certainly see the difficulties you could have in attempting the
"bent corner" bit with a three projector monte routine.
Msg #35354 Dated 9:28:07 02-28-92 35220 <--> 35355
From: BILL WELLS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Great description, Cy! Frank certainly was his own best creation. I
always wondered about the real Frank...you might have known him well
enough to know that part of him. I saw glimpses now and then.
Msg #35355 Dated 9:28:17 02-28-92 35224 <--> 35357
From: BILL WELLS
To: CY KELLER (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Of course, the walnut in egg contained a bill, not a card. My memory
was running faster than my fingers again. Don't concern yourself
about mentioning a dislike of organizational politics to me, I abhor
it and avoid it if at all possible. Unfortunately, I sometimes get
pulled into it against my wishes.
I am sure that the really knowledgeable folks on the board know much
of what we are talking about in our remembrances of East Coast magic.
Afterall, at least two of them have eastern roots. I even remember
when one of them had an afro and was a DJ.
Msg #35356 Dated 9:28:40 02-28-92 35237 <--> 35989
From: BILL WELLS
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: EMERGENCY!!!
I am that the emergency (and the sponge ball) have probably passed by
this time, but you might try talking to Mike Rogers who lives in the
San Diego area. He might know something about sponge dyes as he
certainly has made a sponge rabbit or two in his time. I don't have
his number handy, but he should be in your local phone book.
Msg #35357 Dated 9:28:55 02-28-92 35257 <--> 35360
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Gadzooks! another wasted youth! Too bad, you never found Flosso's
at that early age.
Msg #35358 Dated 9:29:03 02-28-92 35276 <-
From: BILL WELLS
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: MESSAGE
Anyway you look at it, it was a fowl trick!
Msg #35359 Dated 9:29:09 02-28-92 35297 <--> 35362
From: BILL WELLS
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
Maybe Pete should look at the bottom of his VCR ... and see if it
says "Made in Klingon".
Msg #35360 Dated 9:29:17 02-28-92 35300 <--> 35365
From: BILL WELLS
To: MAX MAVEN (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Well, I am sure that Cy will buy a copy of your "endless chain"
routine. I will buy a copy. That is certainly two reasons (albeit
they might indeed be small) to publish your routine!
Msg #35362 Dated 9:28:25 02-28-92 35330 <--> 35363
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SKED
OK, I just wanted to make sure of any last minute changes to DMS '92
since MAGIC! isn't in the published schedule (Yes, you _did_ post the
post-horseback schedule here FIRST). I think I'll try to give Joe a
call today and see if he can send me the final one. Looking forward to
seeing you there!
Msg #35363 Dated 9:30:38 02-28-92 35333 <--> 35364
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
You may have a funny cable setup that your VCR can or can't use. I'm
in the same boat. I have to use the cable box since our local cable
uses some funny setup that my VCR's aren't able to read. But check the
back of your VCR for some kind of cable switch - it may have labels
like I.C.C./H.R.C./STD. - and see if it helps.
Msg #35364 Dated 9:34:49 02-28-92 35359 <--> 35388
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SKED
Yeah, that's the sort of thing (about Biro's VCR) that I was thinking
of. Or his may have some kind of new copy protection scheme built into
it. Or maybe it is trying to tell him that he should waste less time
watching television.
Msg #35365 Dated 9:39:47 02-28-92 35357 <--> 35383
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Yes, it is too bad that I never found Flosso's. But at that age I was
having a lot of trouble navigating the NY subway system. It wasn't
easy to read the signs when you were only three feet tall and
surrounded by shoving people. I do remember a treat, rather local, I
think, to New York, that was called a Charlotte Russe, although I may
not have the name exactly right - a little paper ring that held a small
cake topped with about a foot of whipped cream (REAL whipped cream),
surmounted by a maraschino cherry. At that time, in Florida, there
were still drug stores that sold "phosphates."
But I do wonder what I could have done if I had found Flosso's. Nathan
has been luckier in that regard - already having some of the World's
best magi as friends and at least he can go to the Castle on Sundays.
Msg #35366 Dated 9:50:47 02-28-92 35335 <--> 35392
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: THURS
One of the few lines by Joan Rivers that I ever liked was "My pantyhose
are so tight that if I fart my ankles swell."
Yeah, I haven't heard from Stacey this morning, but if the sponge ball
got passed choking the kid then I think the worst is over. I knew a
girl once who swallowed a quarter (she was trying to do some kind of
vanish of it). She spent a few days in the hospital while they tracked
it with X-rays but, quite literally, it came out alright in the end.
Msg #35367 Dated 9:55:38 02-28-92 35342 <--> 35379
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: 33
Wish I could be at the Castle today! But I've got to retore the house
since spouse is due home today! And it wouldn't hurt if I tried to do
a little "real work" too!
Msg #35368 Dated 9:56:20 02-28-92 35319 <--> 35463
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: ANTHONY BLAKE (X)
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
MONDO BONDAGE!
Msg #35369 Dated 9:56:47 02-28-92 35350 <--> 35371
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
S-H-H-H-H! I was kinda hopin' Biro would forget about the Great Bill
Switch Contest! ARGH! (tm - Biro).
Msg #35370 Dated 9:57:21 02-28-92 35322 <--> 35381
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: DAVID VANVRANKEN (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Maybe you coud have used the toster with your wifes other ideas! 8*)
Msg #35371 Dated 9:57:37 02-28-92 35351 <--> 35387
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
OK, thanks for the info - 5 p.m. on Friday at DMS it is! It will be a
busy session!
Msg #35372 Dated 9:59:40 02-28-92 35352 <--> 35394
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: MY NOTEBOOK
On the three projector monte it isn't the bent corner that is so bad,
it is the crimping and palming that kills ya'!
Msg #35374 Dated 9:59:37 02-28-92 35346 <--> 35375
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
Here is the true and correct virgin of the song!
.
On top of spaghetti, all coverd with cheese,
I lost my poor meat ball when sombody sneezed.
It rolled off the table and on to the floor,
and then my poor meat ball rolled out of the door.
It rolled down the sidewalk and under a bush,
and then my poor meat ball was nothing but muush.
Msg #35375 Dated 11:31:59 02-28-92 35374 <--> 35378
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
Yep! That sounds right, although I think line 4 is "and then my poor
meat ball, it rolled out the door." Great! Thanks!
Msg #35377 Dated 11:35:55 02-28-92 -> 35522
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: ALL
Re: CLASSIC RENDITIONS
I've just had a chance to look at Michael Ammar's CLASSIC RENDITIONS
#2 (the newly released "midquel" between Volumes #1 and #3 that were
released previously).
It is superb! This series is the ultimate state-of-the-art in
teaching magic through video. It is _the_ proof of how effective
good video can be in teaching technical skills. Michael has coupled
truly professional video techniques - superb duplication, hi-fi
sound, etc. - with what he terms "Super Practice Sessions." These
sessions are built around the latest learning theory techniques,
combining neuro-muscular programming with a well-documented approach
known as "super learning." The result is astonishing!
Classic Renditions #2 includes four effects - The Crazyman's
Handcuffs, Dan Harlan's Traveling Cash, The Broken and Restored
Rubber Band, and John Cornelius teaching The Vanishing Nickel. The
history of each effect is carefully documented and each includes
Michael's unique modifications. In addition to the technical
training, the video is loaded with performance hints and performance
philosophy. This is, quite simply, a blockbuster video; equal to,
and perhaps even surpassing, the opportunity to learn from a master
in a live session.
Classic Renditions #2 joins the other released volumes in this
series, #1 - The Floating Bill and John Cornelius' Coin That Falls
Up and #3 - The Invisible Bill Switch and John Cornelius' Borrowed
Bill Routine. I believe that each sells for around $35.
I don't know if Michael will accept orders via private message here
on MAGIC!, but you can certainly ask him (or you can get them from
your local magic dealer, mail order magic dealers or from L&L
Publishing [800-626-6572]). If you want to see how good video can
really be, you have to see one of these tapes.
Msg #35378 Dated 12:29:35 02-28-92 35375 <--> 35382
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
need any more songs????
Msg #35379 Dated 16:45:50 02-28-92 35342 <--> 35380
From: PETE BIRO
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: 33
I am probably too late, but if you can, say Hi to Frank (Martineau)
for me...
Msg #35380 Dated 16:45:54 02-28-92 35343 <--> 35506
From: PETE BIRO
To: MIKE KING (X)
Re: 33
You can read whatever you want, dude... have a good 'un whenever
it be!
Msg #35381 Dated 16:45:58 02-28-92 35345 <--> 35407
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Sure, good crutch. You gots to have more mammory glands in your
computer than I is got to use it tho... I only have a $10,000
system and it didn't come with speed and/or memory! Sure you cn
buy the same system for $999 today in DAMARK catalogs... argh...
.
Are you all hip to the NATIONWIDE VIRUS that is supposed to strike
during the first week of March? My compatriots at Microtimes are
going to give me something for my computer to combat it. I think
it is called the Michaelangelo Virus (is his birthday next week
or sumpin?) ARgh... Uh, only will hurt PCs not MACs... double ARgh.
Msg #35382 Dated 16:46:10 02-28-92 35346 <--> 35395
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
Well, after the next election, lets hope the BUSH line will become
obsolete!
Msg #35383 Dated 16:46:14 02-28-92 35347 <--> 35386
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
I have his book. I don't recall much, like you say, when you see
so much and also don't know what the hey he did... it is almost
impossible to reconstruct. Like the all night session between
Persi Diaconis and Jack MacMillan I was privvy to. They told me
to NOT TIP any EFFECTS that they did... shoot, I couldn't remember
any of it the next day!
Msg #35384 Dated 16:46:21 02-28-92 35348 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ODDEST PARAGRAPH?
If he looked good on that tape, you will not believe the FISM TAPE.
Msg #35386 Dated 16:46:51 02-28-92 35349 <--> 35391
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
The magic store I worked in had a huge "back room" the owner let
us run it, we built a stage etc. and had lectures and meetings
there... great place lots of good stuff going on. Mike Rogers was
here for a number of years then when he was at the Alameda Naval
Air station.
Msg #35387 Dated 16:46:58 02-28-92 35350 <--> 35393
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
As far as I am concerned it is over. I did mine, the Frog did not
counter... so....
.
But if need be I can do my later version... which will hurt many,
when they walk off mumbling to themselves. Pity.
Msg #35388 Dated 16:47:04 02-28-92 35359 <--> 35389
From: PETE BIRO
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: SKED
Just checked. It says "infiltrated by klingon spirits" ARgh...
.
Where is my frammis alla faser jamagoo nimbus super chip distortion
analyzing whammo slammer?
Msg #35389 Dated 16:47:10 02-28-92 35363 <--> 35390
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
Thank you, Number One.
Msg #35390 Dated 16:47:13 02-28-92 35364 <--> 35410
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
I like to tape shows and play them fast forward only slowing down
to see the commercials. Whaddy think of the new Goodyear Aquatread
commercial? My buddies in Arkron and Detroit did that. They used
a MAC II for the "Terminator II effects"... har...
Msg #35391 Dated 16:47:19 02-28-92 35365 <--> 35408
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
I liked the Orange Julius stands. Had Thanksgiving Dinner in NY
one night at a White Castle. Chock Full O Nuts had great instant
service for lunches.
Msg #35392 Dated 16:47:24 02-28-92 35366 <--> 35412
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: THURS
One of my dogs ate a packet of gold earrings. I had to track the
pooch for about three days to recover them all (which I did).
Now their's an ARGH DUTY... WOOF.
Msg #35393 Dated 16:47:29 02-28-92 35369 <--> 35409
From: PETEBIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
One never forgets victorious moments!
Msg #35394 Dated 16:47:32 02-28-92 35372 <--> 35962
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: MY NOTEBOOK
I would hope you will be doing the Mexican turnover with your
monte demo.
Msg #35395 Dated 16:47:36 02-28-92 35374 <--> 35405
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
On the last word, did your dog team start running fast?
Msg #35396 Dated 16:47:39 02-28-92
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: OK?
Ee;35378
Have not heard from you today... I hope all is OK with your child.
Let us know... good luck...
Msg #35397 Dated 19:29:39 02-28-92 -> 35413
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: MEATBALLS
What kind of mommy would I be if I didn't know the words to every
kiddie song there is? Here goes:
On top of spaghetti, all covered with cheese
I lost my poor meatball
When somebody sneezed
It rolled off the table and fell to the floor
The last time I saw it, it rolled out the door
A truck came and squashed it, it died the next day
I honor my meatball on Memorial Day
Bonus track, sung to Jingle Bells:
Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg
Batmobile lost a wheel and Joker got away...
All these courtesy of my 7 year old!
Msg #35398 Dated 19:33:30 02-28-92 -> 35422
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: ALL
Re: FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL
I am happy to report Rebecca has survived the sponge ball incident,
although she was a little sleepier than usual today. She is her happy,
bouncy (pardon the pun) self. The props have been locked up AGAIN, but
Rebecca's nickname is Houdini. She can get INTO and OUT OF anything
you put in front of her. Or DON'T put in front of her. She is an
escape artist and makes the Energizer Bunny look lethargic. I did NOT
leave the sponge ball lying around. It was on the top shelf of the
closet in a locked box. Her older sister got it out and gave it to her
in retaliation for Rebecca throwing Funky Munky in the cat box. I
don't think Holly meant for Rebecca to eat it, just play with it.
Holly was practicing with mouth coils and I think Rebecca got it in her
head that sponge balls looked particularly appetizing. Personally, I
would like to try the Death Saw on both of them...except they're so
darn cute!
Msg #35401 Dated 19:45:11 02-28-92 -> 35414
From: STEVE BRYANT
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (X)
Re: SPAGHETTI
David,
By all means try to locate any Tom Glazer albums you
can for Nathan. One is actually called On Top of
Spaghetti (Glazer wrote that song, by the way). He's a
marveous children's entertainer. The album also
features Puff(the magic dragon), From the Halls of
Montezuma (to the shores of P.T.A.), When the Dust Mops
Go Rolling Along, Dunderbeck, Battle Hymn of the
Children, etc. Really fun songs. (As a teenager I also
used to listen faithfully to WLS Chicago. The DJ Dick
Biondi used to sing the spaghetti song all the time.
So I really enjoyed re-discovering it for my kids.)
-- Steve Bryant
Msg #35402 Dated 19:44:35 02-28-92 -> 35420
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
So you think conventions are for unemployed magicians to hang out, do
you? Well WHAT A CROCK!!! I go to conventions to learn new things, to
meet my friends and to find things that I can use to keep my act fresh
and interesting. If I had never been to a convention, I wouldn't get
to meet people like Eugene Burger, Michael Ammar, Stan Allen, Bill
Smith, Max Maven and Terry Seabrooke. Maybe YOU like sitting in a
corner vegetating, but some of us actually LEARN something at
conventions. I am also a professional travel agent and attend travel
conventions. And guess what - I'M EMPLOYED! Because of a combination
of these two, the Magicians Travel Network was created. I hoep others
feel as I do. I use every opportunity I can to learn new things.
Comments?
Msg #3540 Dated 20:10:37 02-28-92 35378 <--> 35406
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
Nope, but it is amazing just how fast and how completely MAGIC! members
responded to my request. One of them even called on my private
(unlisted) line and tried to play a recording of it into the answering
machine! Alas, the machine is sensitive to tones and cut it off!
Thanks to one and all!
Msg #35406 Dated 20:12:21 02-28-92 35382 <--> 35418
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
You is preoccupied with Bush. I'm looking forward to voting for him at
least three more times.
Msg #35407 Dated 20:13:33 02-28-92 35381 <--> 35439
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Pete - Make sure you run a VIRUS CHECKER on _their_ virus killer!
Remember, you is the new kid on the Microtimes block and they are sharp
computer dudes who know all the tricks! Fortune cookie say: BE
CAREFUL.
Msg #35408 Dated 20:16:12 02-28-92 35391 <--> 35515
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SHOOTING STAR
Well, from times in the Northeast I do remember White Castle - the
burgers were incredible! Also remember Horn 'n Hardart! As a child of
about 8, I remember seeing a similar food vending setup in Holland,
only it was built right into the wall along a sidewalk.
In Florida we had Royal Castle and Krystal - both had the same size
burgers, but not nearly as good. Krystal is still around in the South
- Nathan even has one of those sports drinking things (with the built
in straw) from a Krystal.
Msg #35409 Dated 20:21:49 02-28-92 35393 <--> 35440
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
Victorious moments??? You forget, Biro, YOU LOST when you called it
WRONG on Jim Lewis!!!
Msg #35410 Dated 20:22:44 02-28-92 35389 <--> 35411
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
From your "Thank you, number one" message, do I take it that maybe the
little switch on the back of the VCR helped?
Msg #35411 Dated 20:23:27 02-28-92 35390 <--> 35441
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
You may not believe it, but I haven't seen any Goodyear Aquatread
commercial - they don't show it on Sheri Lewis, Mr. Rogers or Sesame
Street.
Msg #35412 Dated 20:24:37 02-28-92 35392 <--> 35443
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: THURS
I don't even want to ask how one of your dogs happened to eat a packet
of gold earrings. Did you recover all the little back clasps too?
Msg #35413 Dated 20:25:52 02-28-92 35397 <--> 35433
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: MEATBALLS
Please convey my thanks to your 7-year old. Her version is a bit
different than the others, but is a good 'un.
Msg #35414 Dated 20:34:45 02-28-92 35401 <--> 35435
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SPAGHETTI
Thanks for the info on Glazer - will try to look for his stuff. Is the
Puff a straight version? Or is it modified? As a kid I sometimes
listened to WLS too! It is a 50-Kw clear channel and I could sometimes
pick it up in Florida!
Msg #35415 Dated 20:44:11 02-28-92
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: BILL WELLS (X)
Re: DMS
You ain't gonna believe this, but Nathan just dictated a note to me and
had his mother write it down. It reads, "Please, let's go to Las Vegas
soon."
Msg #35418 Dated 21:25:24 02-28-92 35395 <--> 35438
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
Woof!
Msg #35420 Dated 21:26:09 02-28-92 35402 <--> 35424
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
I'm Employed too! (self) also, being from LA I have managed to see and
experience the Magi you have listed. You see, magic and entertainment
are a full time job for me, and why dont the convention planners plan
to hold their confrences on week-days? If they did, then more of the
FULL TIME WORKING MAGICIANS would be able to attend. Like a great Genii
columnist once stated in his submissions, There are 20 people who think
in magic. (ok so the quote is wrong but you get the picture. These 20
are also the Working the conventions, while I am working the private
engagements. Conventions (magic) are ok for the hobbiest (like
yourself) and for the dealers and book sellers to show off their works
and for seminars and teach ins. Yes you do LEARN at the conventions,
but how many PAID PERFORMANCES do you do a year? As a travel agent,
you must keep up on all the latest lines of travel. and using magic as
your hobby, of course you would use the advantage of helping a
traveling magician soar to new location. I do not sit in a corner
vegitating! Which reminds me of a joke. These two carrots were in a car
accident, one was injured and promptly taken to the hospital. the
surviving carrot asks the doctor, "will my friend be ok?" the doctor
replies, "yes, but he will be a vegtable the rest of his life!"
So, dearest Stacey, while the convention is ment for education, how
many of the attendees are FULL TIME PRO rather than full time something
else and part time magician? (sr. Biro is the exception to the last
statement) Fortunatly, I am a single (no immeadite family or
dependents) so I can live in a manner that I enjoy with out meeting
significant others expectations.
Msg #35422 Dated 21:47:39 02-28-92 35398 <--> 35425
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL
dont you get disgusted when someone puts or removes something from the
mouth? It may look funny, but think about it? would you like to see you
kid, after seeing the great Steve Spill do his wonderful swallowing
needle trick, or how bout RAZOR BLADES????? (OUCH)
Msg #35424 Dated 21:53:34 02-28-92 35420 <--> 35426
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
And what does Michael Ammar do for a living? And Eugene Burger? And
Terry Seabrooke? I AM a paid performer. I teach children who have
been abused, abandoned, or neglected the art of magic. My "payment"
comes in the form of trust, smiles, letters and home-made objects, of
hugs and thanks. I am rich in the things that count and as long as
there are kids with dreams, I'll be there for them.
Msg #35425 Dated 22:00:18 02-28-92 35422 <--> 35430
From: STACEY MACKENZIE
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL
How would YOU like to see a kid who has just swallowed 6 hits of acid?
Talk to me when you make some sense.
Msg #35426 Dated 22:02:51 02-28-92 35424 <--> 35436
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
Wow! that was QUICK! I just left the bord to read the other messages
and now back on line to see "whats up". I am also rich in the other
things that count and I AM A KID WITH A DREAM! Chuck Fayne once called
me a giant 9 year old. I DO enjoy propagating smiles and happiness. (it
is my life) but why dont they hold conventions during the week? I would
be inclined to attend then!
Msg #35430 Dated 22:07:00 02-28-92 35425 <--> 35434
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL
I know "kids" who swallow 6 hits or more every time they go to a
Grateful Dead concert. These kids are OUR AGE (30+) and younger. I do
not use chemicals as a recreational stimulant, and I do not endorse
their use. But I did know a girl (20+) who used to take spray paint and
spray a sock and inhale the fumes! How bout the USC basket ball star
who did some "cocaine" and suffered a heart attack and died? How bout
all those magicians who died from the bottle? (booze). If you can
change a childs mind to positive thinking, there you have won the
battle. I am VERY careful not to do ANYTHING that might influence a
child to try at home. "KIDS, DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME. GO TO YOUR
NEIGHBORS HOUSE ANT TRY
NEIGHBORS HOUSE AND TRY IT!" Kids need to be kids, but look Stacey, we
live in a time where it is OK for cartoon charactors die violently
(NINJA TURTLES etc..) and parents need to take more responsibility
towards the bringing up of the next generation (shudder)!
Why was FUNKEY MONKEY thrown into the cat box. TREAT YOUR TOYS WITH
RESPECT! when I was a meer spot of a lad, I had this tapestry called
"If a child...." it is tru insperation. I wish I could find it again!
and remember, LIFE IS A BANQUET AND MOST POOR SOBS ARE STARVING TO
DEATH!
When teaching magic to the younger set, the premise is no I can do this
and your a jerk but rather, I can do this and share some happiness with
you for a while.
IT!"D
Msg #35433 Dated 22:56:04 02-28-92 35397 <-
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: MEATBALLS
The last line doesn't rhyme?
Msg #35434 Dated 22:56:07 02-28-92 35398 <--> 35478
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL
Sponge balls taste better with Paul Newman's Industrial Strength
Tomato sauce.
Msg #35435 Dated 22:56:11 02-28-92 35401 <--> 35603
From: PETE BIRO
To: STEVE BRYANT (X)
Re: SPAGHETTI
Is there a Yuppi Pasta Salad version? I almost fried a huge pot.
Was boiling eggs and forgottem... got there just in time. About
1/4-inch of dry water left onna bottomb. ARgh...
Msg #35436 Dated 22:56:16 02-28-92 35402 <--> 35444
From: PETE BIRO
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
What a rummy bunch you have met! ARgh...
Msg #35438 Dated 22:56:46 02-28-92 35406 <--> 35448
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
That is illegal. One man, one vote... or have you somehow registered
Nathan? You can't possible like the current administration?
.
Argh... NO PLEEZE NOMBODY KONTINUE THIS THREAD... SORRY...
.
Our party has not found the winning dude yet, tho... waiting til
the convention. That was so much better than the waste of money
all the primary crap involves... yug...
.
Later
Msg #35439 Dated 22:56:57 02-28-92 35407 <--> 35449
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Methinks I will just turn off my computer and rest it for a few
days... altho a guy in Ohio told me you can fake the Virus by
changing the DATE on the machine to about a week ago and then
a day or two after the CRASH DAY.... restore to the correct date.
And it will not strike. Hah, I mite be better off with a fresh
start anyhoooo....
Msg #35440 Dated 22:57:05 02-28-92 35409 <--> 35450
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
That was a feint... dude... SO FAR, at least, my mothod it totally
MY OWN, ORIGINAL ETC... AND THAT COUNTS FOR 2,435 POINTS.
.
Doing the same trick as another (at the Castle especially) is
worse than 5 Million points PENALTY.
.
Just thinking of doing someone elses stuff these days is death!
Msg #35441 Dated 22:57:14 02-28-92 35410 <--> 35442
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
NO. I have decided to fly to the studio and watch them tape all
the shows I like. (Not much travel anticipated).
Msg #35442 Dated 22:57:18 02-28-92 35411 <--> 35451
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
Right. Only on Adult programming... like the Olympics, Superbowl,
cheap stuff.
Msg #35443 Dated 22:57:22 02-28-92 35412 <--> 3465
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: THURS
Got all. Used a fine strainer and hot water. Lysol bath for me
after each session. Wife would not shake hands with me for weeks.
I said, "Hey quit leaving your gold jewelry in a leather pouch in
reach of the pooch!"
Msg #35444 Dated 22:57:27 02-28-92 35420 <--> 35445
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
PCAM will be in Asilomar on a Mon/Tues/Wed. IBM will be on Wed
thru Sat... So you got plenty o' week days to choose from.
Msg #35445 Dated 22:57:31 02-28-92 35426 <--> 35447
From: PETE BIRO
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
See prev msg
Msg #35447 Dated 23:16:11 02-28-92 35420 <--> 35481
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
Simple - Weekdays it is hard for the part-timers/amateurs to get away
from their other jobs.
Consider my own case for example:
Mondays - Can't go to conventions, too busy recovering from the
weekend, doing hair and nails, etc.
Tues. - Actually try to work for a living.
Wed. - More of the same.
Thurs. - Grocery shopping, dusting and cleaning, stuff like that.
Fri. - Lunch at Castle when possible; otherwise, laundry day,
change sheets, make beds.
See - weekdays is work, work, work for the non-fulltimers.
Msg #35448 Dated 23:21:58 02-28-92 35438 <--> 35477
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
OK, in the interests of keeping MAGIC! to its topic, I'm not responding
to your message.
Msg #35449 Dated 23:23:24 02-28-92 35439 <--> 35459
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Well, around here, crashes come and go, so I'd probably never notice.
I think I may have had some sort of virus on my personal computer last
year - remember the catastrophic disk problems I came home to after
IBM-Balto? But, in general, we practice reasonably safe computing.
Msg #35450 Dated 23:25:21 02-28-92 35440 <--> 35486
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
Well, if I do decide to do it, I have a totally unique, never before
seen, version that will knock your socks off. There is a long list of
major magi who have given me help and advice, but I will reveal their
names only if I do it.
Msg #35451 Dated 23:27:10 02-28-92 35441 <--> 35460
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
Better yet, do what I do - disconnect all the external stuff, the
cable, the antenna, all that. And watch video tapes. Watch stuff that
will enlarge your mind - T. A.'s tape, the Ammar tapes, Mindgames,
stuff like that. Watch good films - Dangerous Liaisons, Gone With The
Wind, Lady and the Tramp. Only programs I watch on commercial
television are Leave It To Beaver (2 episodes shown locally between 9
and 10 every morning) and sometimes Bonanza, only because it follows
Beaver.
Msg #35452 Dated 23:30:49 02-28-92 35173 <--> 35453
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Whoa - another case of totally independant creativity at work. I
swear I never saw your reference of using Nathan like a Jerry
Mahoney ! I must have tapped into the collective consciousness again!
.
And here I thought I had come up with it entirely on my own. The
phenomena seems to pop-up in many fileds, not the least of which is
magic effects and BBS msgs.
Msg #35453 Dated 23:30:54 02-28-92 35185 <--> 35454
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I totally missed Pete's vent reference. See my response to him.
Msg #35454 Dated 23:30:56 02-28-92 35258 <--> 35455
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Yo David - I'm working on the Klutz's guide to BBS commando tactics
and should have something for your review by next week. You can eithe
r add it into the 'book' or I can make separate copies - what ever
works.
Msg #35455 Dated 23:30:59 02-28-92 35259 <--> 35466
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
If you can slip into the back f the show and no one knows he is
there (since he will be quiet) - shouldn't cause a problem.
.
Get a raincoat and we can enter three abreast (with Nathan under the
back of your coat) - once you are the other two engage the 'police'
as misdirection.
.
Another strategy is to make sure Frank Zak is sucurity on the door
for the shows. There's gotta be a way to solve this problem - are we
magicians or wimps ?
Msg #35456 Dated 23:31:05 02-28-92 35154 <--> 35457
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Reach Out Calif. only applies if the number you are calling is
OUTSIDE your service area - which means ATT gets involved. I have to
look into PCPursuit and see if that can help.
Msg #35457 Dated 23:31:07 02-28-92 35172 <--> 35458
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Wasn't the Black Death the plagerism that hit Europe in the Middle
Ages ?
Msg #35458 Dated 23:31:10 02-28-92 35270 <--> 35472
From: JERRY BURTON
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
What happens when marketing an effect, you truly thought was original
and then finding out that it was in print years ago. If you change
the literature to show the true creator does that make it OK ?
.
I would assume that if the true creator were still alive then the
person marketing the effect could get permission from the creator.
What happens if the creator is deceased ?
Msg #35459 Dated 23:31:14 02-28-92 35176 <--> 35485
From: JERRY BURTON
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
Pete, if its a problem taking the tape, I can make David a copy and
haul it over - I'm driving the van over Weds.
.
Let me know.
Msg #35460 Dated 23:31:06 02-28-92 35442 <--> 35487
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: SKED
By the way, when do the Olympics start?
Msg #35461 Dated 23:31:18 02-28-92 35236 <--> 35462
From: JERRY BURTON
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: ROOM
Tell him you have to deliver my SLC tickets, I don't trust the mail.
.
Got the Traveler Profile Card. Tell your boss he forgot to ask for
my Grand-mother's maiden name ! There's a lot of stuff on there that
is my own secret stuff. Will mail it back tomorrow.
Msg #35462 Dated 23:31:21 02-28-92 35265 <--> 35469
From: JERRY BURTON
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ROOM
Let me know if you are baching it to SLC - I'm getting ready to book
my room and could use a roomy.
Msg #35463 Dated 23:31:24 02-28-92 35368 <--> 35495
From: JERRY BURTON
To: SCOTT ALCALAY (X)
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
Swallowing razor blades or needles is my favorite for cubber age
kids. Swallowing live paranha keeps 'em quiet for a while as well.
Msg #35465 Dated 23:31:43 02-28-92 35443 <--> 35496
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: THURS
I'll tell you right now, Biro, any pooch eats my earrings is gonna have
psychic surgery done on it immediately. None of this following it
around stuff.
Question - If the wife wouldn't shake hands with you for weeks after
finding the stuff, did she ever actually go ahead and wear it again?
Also, I agree with your statement about leaving it where the pooch
could get it. We have a policy about that with Nathan. If we left it
where he could break it (although he never really has broken anything
yet) then it is our fault for leaving it there or for not telling him
not to touch it.
Msg #35466 Dated 23:35:49 02-28-92 35453 <--> 35467
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
I guess that your vent reference merely shows that great minds think
alike.
Msg #35467 Dated 23:36:57 02-28-92 35454 <--> 35468
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Super about the guide! If you will send it to me, I will add it to the
guide - maybe make it an appendix. MANY THANKS!
Msg #35468 Dated 23:38:09 02-28-92 35455 <--> 35488
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Thanks for the suggestions. Actually, they parallel my own. But I'd
like to find some way to win Joe's approval. I don't want to have a
foul up with him as I respect him too much and there is a good synergy
between MAGIC! and DMS. I do think Nathan would go unnoticed in back.
Other part is that he really has been invited to work in the show (Biro
doesn't know this) and I think that could legitimize his being there.
I'm going to try to work on it - he left me a note tonite that said,
"Please, let's go to Las Vegas soon!" I really don't want him let
down.
Msg #35469 Dated 23:42:18 02-28-92 35462 <--> 35494
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROM
Thanks for the offer, Jerry. Right now it looks VERY LIKELY that I
will be baching for SLC. Should know in a couple of days, as I want to
take advantage of Stacey's travel deal.
Msg #35472 Dated 23:58:40 02-28-92 35458 <--> 35490
From: T A WATERS
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
The honorable thing is to check with the creator of the effect and go
along with his or her wishes. If they are deceased it gets a bit
cloudier -- I mean, if you are making major bucks with this thing and
the person has a surviving family, there should be some consideration
there. At the very least, if it is an item in a book, the credit line
should be corrected.
Msg #35475 Dated 0:57:09 02-29-92
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: GENO MUNARI (X)
Re: YOUR PLACE
Geno -
As you know, a fair sized contingent of MAGIC! members will be in L.V.
for DMS. I'm sure that many will want to get over to your place at the
Continental. Can you give us an idea of the show schedule, pricing,
and who will be performing during DMS? Thanks.
Msg #35477 Dated 1:32:26 02-29-92 35303 <--> 35480
From: FRANK ZAK
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
It rolled off the table and out through the door. And now my poor meat
ball can't roll any more.
That's alll that I can remember Dave.
Msg #35478 Dated 1:35:49 02-29-92 35398 <--> 35510
From: FRANK ZAK
To: STACEY MACKENZIE (X)
Re: FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL
I just checked the remaining messages. I'm glad that Rebecca is OK.
Msg #35480 Dated 7:31:29 02-29-92 35477 <--> 35500
From: DAVID LICHTMAN (Sysop)
To: FRANK ZAK (X)
Re: SONG LYRICS
OK, thanks, Frank. You know, so many MAGIC! members seem to know this
song that we could probably sing it at DMS! Maybe in the Trop's lobby
around 4 a.m.?
Msg #35481 Dated 7:45:34 02-29-92 35444 <--> 35501
From: SCOTT ALCALAY
To: PETE BIRO (X)
Re: CONVENTIONS
You mean I actually get to break away from my job to attend a
convention? OH BOY!
Msg #35485 Dated 8:37:51 02-29-92 35449 <--> 35492
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
You have a plastic cover over your keyboard?
Msg #35486 Dated 8:37:55 02-29-92 35450 <--> 35527
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: ETHICS DIALOGUE
5:45 Friday.
Msg #35487 Dated 8:37:58 02-29-92 35451 <--> 35493
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
No wonder you want to continue use of a Thumb tip.
Msg #35488 Dated 8:38:01 02-29-92 35452 <--> 35489
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
You are forgiven, oh, "Crystal Brain"...
Msg #35489 Dated 8:38:04 02-29-92 35455 <--> 35497
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
What I have done is to put the sneaker on the shoulders, wearing
a hat and a 44 XXXXLong raincoat. You look out the buttonholes.
Msg #35490 Dated 8:38:08 02-29-92 35457 <--> 35491
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
It was one of the worst ISMS of all time.
Msg #35491 Dated 8:38:11 02-29-92 35458 <--> 35499
From: PEE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
It is not easy. But most marketers should have knowledge or access
to the knowledge... the books and tricks are there... and there
are people that know much of what has gone by.
.
But things will slip on by. I could site a number of items if I
were to sit down and think about them...
.
The things that fried me were related to such items as Svengali
Decks, Zombie Balls, etc. where the creators were known and yet
any dealer that wanted to sell them just ran out and had them
made. No royalties, no nuttin...
.
In my personal case knowledge, Ken Brooke used to make deals with
his magic creators and paid them quite well, and even worked out
the quantity that would be done... and when others ripped him off
it blew many things... like the philosophy Ken had that only a few
of a certain item should exist... and he would not sell the same
trick (in some cases where a special item was to be exclusive) to
someone in the same geographical area as a previous buyer.
Msg #35492 Dated 8:38:30 02-29-92 35459 <--> 35526
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: I DO WINDOWS!
If you can do that fine.. as my VCR seems to be in foul order
and not doing what it should... if you do let me know.
Msg #35493 Dated 8:38:35 02-29-92 35460 <--> 35525
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: SKED
Which Olympics? The winter ones are almost over...
Msg #35494 Dated 8:38:38 02-29-92 35462 <--> 35613
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: ROOM
If he does room... have him strip searched for extra thumb tips.
Msg #35495 Dated 8:38:41 02-29-92 35463 <--> 35615
From: PETE BIRO
To: JERRY BURTON (X)
Re: CUBBERS! YIPES!
When working with Paranha (sic) who is swallowing who is the
mystery! Isn't it Pirranha?
Msg #35496 Dated 8:38:45 02-29-92 35465 <--> 35540
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: THURS
I can't go into spousal brains about making things Dogproof, locking
doors, leaving the car unattended, motor running, door open,
Lobster from market on seat of car with dog unattended in same...
argh... the list is endless... tho it ended a year ago...
Msg #35497 Dated 8:38:51 02-29-92 35467 <--> 35498
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Re: prev msg... what really transpires is "GREAT MINDS THINK"
Msg #35498 Dated 8:38:54 02-29-92 35468 <--> 35512
From: PETE BIRO
To: DAVID LICHTMAN (SYSOP) (X)
Re: RESTROOMS
Into each life a little rain must fall. Buy an umbrella for Nathan.
Msg #35499 Dated 8:38:57 02-29-92 35472 <--> 35591
From: PETE BIRO
To: T A WATERS (X)
Re: WHERE WOULD WE BE
Working with someone on effects from Ken Brooke and Fred Kaps,
we have contacted members of the estate.
.
I think if magicians would just follow common business practices
(gee, they don't follow standart theatrical procedures, like using
a director, choreographer, costumers, writers....) I guess it is
too much for me to think they would act business like...
.
Sorry I brought it up.....
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